| steve_d | 10-08-2004 07:01 AM |
don't pick on aerosim because this thread has been going on since....welll...ever...
Do any of you know what it really takes to MAKE your own new product from scratch? esp. something as elaborate as a bodykit? It doesn't sound like steve has many folks working for him, it'll be done...
It's also why most engineering/developers dont' post ANYTHING about what they're doing until there's a finished tested product. sometimes development takes time.
If the molds are done, suddenly the kit starts paying for itself...build them man!!!!
Steve, PM me if you need any advice or help...I design truck accessories for a living...I know the pitfalls of trying to build something and it taking FOREVER...
sjd
Do any of you know what it really takes to MAKE your own new product from scratch? esp. something as elaborate as a bodykit? It doesn't sound like steve has many folks working for him, it'll be done...
It's also why most engineering/developers dont' post ANYTHING about what they're doing until there's a finished tested product. sometimes development takes time.
If the molds are done, suddenly the kit starts paying for itself...build them man!!!!
Steve, PM me if you need any advice or help...I design truck accessories for a living...I know the pitfalls of trying to build something and it taking FOREVER...
sjd
| dmatthew | 10-08-2004 08:07 AM |
Mercedes SLR
| eurojax | 10-08-2004 09:04 AM |
[QUOTE=steve_d]don't pick on aerosim because this thread has been going on since....welll...ever...
Do any of you know what it really takes to MAKE your own new product from scratch? esp. something as elaborate as a bodykit? It doesn't sound like steve has many folks working for him, it'll be done...
It's also why most engineering/developers dont' post ANYTHING about what they're doing until there's a finished tested product. sometimes development takes time.
If the molds are done, suddenly the kit starts paying for itself...build them man!!!!
Steve, PM me if you need any advice or help...I design truck accessories for a living...I know the pitfalls of trying to build something and it taking FOREVER...
sjd[/QUOTE]
4 years though? 4 years is PLENTY of time for 1 person or a company to create a mold. Hell, I bet I could design a front and rear bumper for the GC8 given the right instructions and materials in less than a year, even with my busy schedule.
I think aerosim dug themselves a hole in 2001 and haven't been able to get out of it since. By the time it's finished, GC8's will be rusted and gone.
--eurojax, the devils advocate.
Do any of you know what it really takes to MAKE your own new product from scratch? esp. something as elaborate as a bodykit? It doesn't sound like steve has many folks working for him, it'll be done...
It's also why most engineering/developers dont' post ANYTHING about what they're doing until there's a finished tested product. sometimes development takes time.
If the molds are done, suddenly the kit starts paying for itself...build them man!!!!
Steve, PM me if you need any advice or help...I design truck accessories for a living...I know the pitfalls of trying to build something and it taking FOREVER...
sjd[/QUOTE]
4 years though? 4 years is PLENTY of time for 1 person or a company to create a mold. Hell, I bet I could design a front and rear bumper for the GC8 given the right instructions and materials in less than a year, even with my busy schedule.
I think aerosim dug themselves a hole in 2001 and haven't been able to get out of it since. By the time it's finished, GC8's will be rusted and gone.
--eurojax, the devils advocate.
| CrazyMike13 | 10-08-2004 11:25 AM |
Hey, at least by the time it's actually done, I might actually be able to afford it. So that deserves a :banana:.
-CM13
-CM13
| Pallendo | 10-08-2004 11:28 AM |
[QUOTE=dmatthew]Mercedes SLR[/QUOTE]
Point?
I would love to see a kit for the 04+ Wagons. Getting my 05 wagon soon.
-Peter :banana:
Point?
I would love to see a kit for the 04+ Wagons. Getting my 05 wagon soon.
-Peter :banana:
| RokketRide | 10-08-2004 02:32 PM |
[QUOTE=eurojax]I think aerosim dug themselves a hole in 2001 and haven't been able to get out of it since. By the time it's finished, GC8's will be rusted and gone.
--eurojax, the devils advocate.[/QUOTE]
There is a little more to the story than "dug themselves a hole". If Steve wants to elaborate, I will leave it up to him. There were a couple things beyond his control that made him unable to build this kit as fast as naysayers like you would have liked.
Hey Steve - I'm gonna cruise by this evening, I'll be in the neighborhood :D
--eurojax, the devils advocate.[/QUOTE]
There is a little more to the story than "dug themselves a hole". If Steve wants to elaborate, I will leave it up to him. There were a couple things beyond his control that made him unable to build this kit as fast as naysayers like you would have liked.
Hey Steve - I'm gonna cruise by this evening, I'll be in the neighborhood :D
| mrbell | 10-08-2004 07:44 PM |
Also, I don't think there were many instructions on how to do this... AND it's not just making molds, it's making all the equipment and stuff to make molds and the kit...
| Aerosim Research Ltd | 10-08-2004 09:43 PM |
[QUOTE=RokketRide]There is a little more to the story than "dug themselves a hole". If Steve wants to elaborate, I will leave it up to him. There were a couple things beyond his control that made him unable to build this kit as fast as naysayers like you would have liked.
Hey Steve - I'm gonna cruise by this evening, I'll be in the neighborhood :D[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I think the whole story is in this thread somewhere. If anyone wants to hear the whole story, come on over and I'll tell you over a couple beers.
A huge thanks has to go out to everyone who's supported me and understand how much money and hassle this has been. Just take a look at all of the aborted parts that never got made. And, I have no idea what the Mercedes SLR reference is ... if I had McLaren's facilities and Mercedes' money, I could have gotten it done a lot sooner.
See ya later Larry.
-Steve
[email][email protected][/email]
Hey Steve - I'm gonna cruise by this evening, I'll be in the neighborhood :D[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I think the whole story is in this thread somewhere. If anyone wants to hear the whole story, come on over and I'll tell you over a couple beers.
A huge thanks has to go out to everyone who's supported me and understand how much money and hassle this has been. Just take a look at all of the aborted parts that never got made. And, I have no idea what the Mercedes SLR reference is ... if I had McLaren's facilities and Mercedes' money, I could have gotten it done a lot sooner.
See ya later Larry.
-Steve
[email][email protected][/email]
| Lachlan | 10-08-2004 09:50 PM |
Steve--what about the fiberglass parts--are they a go or no go? I think if I can muster up the money I would like cf fenders with fiberglass bumpers--since they're going to get bumped anyway :)
| projectrally | 10-08-2004 10:21 PM |
[QUOTE=darknightohio]How long have you guys been waiting for this kit?[/QUOTE]
Since 2002. or roughly 2 years longer than I've been a nasioc member. And I'm going to keep waiting. Hopefully, by the time the kit's available, I'll not only be able to afford it, but I'll be able to to afford the house and the garage i'll need to have so I can store it and buff it with a diaper.
Since 2002. or roughly 2 years longer than I've been a nasioc member. And I'm going to keep waiting. Hopefully, by the time the kit's available, I'll not only be able to afford it, but I'll be able to to afford the house and the garage i'll need to have so I can store it and buff it with a diaper.
| Aerosim Research Ltd | 10-08-2004 11:42 PM |
[QUOTE=Lachlan]Steve--what about the fiberglass parts--are they a go or no go? I think if I can muster up the money I would like cf fenders with fiberglass bumpers--since they're going to get bumped anyway :)[/QUOTE]
I'm still going to make some fiberglass kits, or part kits. I'm probably going to make a couple of wet lay-up carbon kits just to test out the molds, fitment, etc. before I waste a bunch of cash on prepreg carbon, so as soon as I have some time I'll start on those.
-Steve
[email][email protected][/email]
I'm still going to make some fiberglass kits, or part kits. I'm probably going to make a couple of wet lay-up carbon kits just to test out the molds, fitment, etc. before I waste a bunch of cash on prepreg carbon, so as soon as I have some time I'll start on those.
-Steve
[email][email protected][/email]
| akcel | 10-09-2004 12:29 AM |
make dry carbon hoods!!! ;x
| projectrally | 10-13-2004 12:57 PM |
Anybody else waiting to do a repaint till after this kit becomes available? Anybody else envision that moment where you stop modding your car and say "it's perfect" not happening until after your car is wrapped in Steve's kit?
Yeah, I sort of figured I wasn't alone.
Yeah, I sort of figured I wasn't alone.
| CrazyMike13 | 10-13-2004 01:33 PM |
[QUOTE=projectrally]Anybody else waiting to do a repaint till after this kit becomes available? Anybody else envision that moment where you stop modding your car and say "it's perfect" not happening until after your car is wrapped in Steve's kit?
Yeah, I sort of figured I wasn't alone.[/QUOTE]
I feel the exact same way!
-CM13
Yeah, I sort of figured I wasn't alone.[/QUOTE]
I feel the exact same way!
-CM13
| SJwrx | 10-14-2004 02:15 AM |
A year ago I went down to Aerosim and thanks to Kim, got the see the GC8 and hear a bit of what goes on with the kit. All I have to say is wow. I can't beleive that amount of work that is going into this kit, and the craftsmanship. Its fine to buy a foriegn bumper and have it not fit well and get on with your life, but this kit is amazing.
All the non-believers will be quiet when the final product is out.
Rich
STEVE- get that guy from Prodrive that was suppoed to come down, tell him Rich sent you and he needs his door-cards! :D
All the non-believers will be quiet when the final product is out.
Rich
STEVE- get that guy from Prodrive that was suppoed to come down, tell him Rich sent you and he needs his door-cards! :D
| MGXsport | 10-15-2004 02:32 AM |
Still here and waiting for the wagon kit!
| Aerosim Research Ltd | 10-15-2004 05:10 AM |
Sniff sniff, you guys are really nice. Thanks for supporting me and waiting.
Rich - that guy with the door cards was Jeff Shu from Chaste and he decided it wasn't worth it or something and sold them off. I'm not sure what the deal is, but once I can get my head above water here, I'll see what's up.
-Steve
[email][email protected][/email]
Rich - that guy with the door cards was Jeff Shu from Chaste and he decided it wasn't worth it or something and sold them off. I'm not sure what the deal is, but once I can get my head above water here, I'll see what's up.
-Steve
[email][email protected][/email]
| Wayne_Coots | 10-18-2004 09:24 AM |
Thanks alot Steve for not quiting on this. Just let me know when the sedan kit is ready.
| Homemade WRX | 10-18-2004 12:12 PM |
[QUOTE=Wayne_Coots]Thanks alot Steve for not quiting on this. Just let me know when the sedan kit is ready.[/QUOTE]
ditto, otherwise I will have to buy a 2 door to get all the traction I will need
ditto, otherwise I will have to buy a 2 door to get all the traction I will need
| Keshav | 10-18-2004 09:44 PM |
Lots of us waiting on this kit. =)
| Wayne_Coots | 10-19-2004 06:43 PM |
Steve, Are you still reading this post?
| hhcchen | 10-19-2004 09:26 PM |
forget it man!!!
that's an old model...
even a newer model will be considered out soon...
we need the new model wide body now...
that's an old model...
even a newer model will be considered out soon...
we need the new model wide body now...
| MGXsport | 10-19-2004 09:40 PM |
[QUOTE=hhcchen]forget it man!!!
that's an old model...
even a newer model will be considered out soon...
we need the new model wide body now...[/QUOTE]
Shut your trap jerkoff
that's an old model...
even a newer model will be considered out soon...
we need the new model wide body now...[/QUOTE]
Shut your trap jerkoff
| akcel | 10-19-2004 11:49 PM |
[QUOTE=hhcchen]forget it man!!!
that's an old model...
even a newer model will be considered out soon...
we need the new model wide body now...[/QUOTE]
yes shut your fat gd ass up :X
that's an old model...
even a newer model will be considered out soon...
we need the new model wide body now...[/QUOTE]
yes shut your fat gd ass up :X
| Ahzlon | 10-20-2004 12:06 AM |
Hey Steve... i proabably wont' beable to afford one of these beautiful looking kits... i saw that there are rear wheel spacers and the longer studs to hold the wheels on properly... now my question is .. how the heck do you space out the front wheels... do i have to order the front suspension form a real 22b????
thanks
-Jonathan
thanks
-Jonathan
| Wayne_Coots | 10-20-2004 11:13 AM |
Sorry, But uh, I'm looking for some real performance not just looks. If you can't give a positive, constructive, mature remark then as you've probably herd if you can't post somthing nice don't post anything at all. Don't get on these threads just to tear others down. Besides if you think about it, how much work would you have to do to your car just to get it down to the weight of my 93sedan that weighs only 2600lb's ??? If you are at all concerned about performance then you should know how much weight affects performance. Not to mention that wth this kit you should be able to fit 265-275 width tires. Just some food for thought.
| Wayne_Coots | 10-21-2004 06:48 AM |
Steve, did you say that you were going to produce a hood with slightly smaller hood vents to start with and then increase to the size that is in the pictures?
| CrazyMike13 | 10-21-2004 10:55 AM |
Can anyone refresh us with the latest pictures? I can't search all these pages for them.
-CM13
-CM13
| Wayne_Coots | 10-21-2004 11:34 AM |
[url]http://www.aerosim-research.com/subaru/kit_pics_1.html[/url]
| SJwrx | 10-21-2004 03:43 PM |
[QUOTE=Aerosim Research Ltd]
Rich - that guy with the door cards was Jeff Shu from Chaste and he decided it wasn't worth it or something and sold them off.[/QUOTE]
That bastard! Oh well, RHR makes them for $600 a pair (we need a fainting smiley).
Rich
Rich - that guy with the door cards was Jeff Shu from Chaste and he decided it wasn't worth it or something and sold them off.[/QUOTE]
That bastard! Oh well, RHR makes them for $600 a pair (we need a fainting smiley).
Rich
| Wayne_Coots | 10-22-2004 06:26 AM |
Bump for Steve!!!
| Old School Freek | 11-07-2004 02:55 PM |
When will you be taking orders for the fiberglass kits? Will you be able to use the current turn signal lens (just currious to see some pics of how that got worked out propperly)? My buying a GC8 depends on the outcome of this project. :D
Thanks
Thanks
| Sordid Philosopher | 11-07-2004 07:28 PM |
I'm still waiting patiently - I really want this kit, but I do understand it may not get made for my poor bugeye.
| projectrally | 11-09-2004 12:32 AM |
[QUOTE=Old School Freek]When will you be taking orders for the fiberglass kits? Will you be able to use the current turn signal lens (just currious to see some pics of how that got worked out propperly)? My buying a GC8 depends on the outcome of this project. :D
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Two things...one, a GC8 won't do you any damned good if you're waiting for this kit. Unless you're planning on importing, you're more than likely going to want a GM6. Two...buy it anyway! You won't be disappointed!
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Two things...one, a GC8 won't do you any damned good if you're waiting for this kit. Unless you're planning on importing, you're more than likely going to want a GM6. Two...buy it anyway! You won't be disappointed!
| Keshav | 11-09-2004 12:05 PM |
[QUOTE=projectrally]Two things...one, a GC8 won't do you any damned good if you're waiting for this kit. Unless you're planning on importing, you're more than likely going to want a GM6. Two...buy it anyway! You won't be disappointed![/QUOTE]
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393672[/url]
Translation: Impreza Sedans need not apply. Coupes only.
Would it be that difficult to make one for the 4-door?
My biggest concern is: Will it fit into my garage anymore? How much wider does this kit make the car? I'd hate to go through all the trouble only to have to park outside from then on.
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393672[/url]
Translation: Impreza Sedans need not apply. Coupes only.
Would it be that difficult to make one for the 4-door?
My biggest concern is: Will it fit into my garage anymore? How much wider does this kit make the car? I'd hate to go through all the trouble only to have to park outside from then on.
| Lachlan | 11-09-2004 12:09 PM |
Me wantee.
| Wayne_Coots | 11-09-2004 06:22 PM |
[QUOTE=projectrally]Two things...one, a GC8 won't do you any damned good if you're waiting for this kit. Unless you're planning on importing, you're more than likely going to want a GM6. Two...buy it anyway! You won't be disappointed![/QUOTE]
I think you need to talk to steve before you tell anyone that you should forget about it if you have a four door. Steve will be making one.
I think you need to talk to steve before you tell anyone that you should forget about it if you have a four door. Steve will be making one.
| AlbanianImpreza | 11-09-2004 06:45 PM |
[SIZE=7]4 freakin door let me make my imp 98 meaner! 4 door 4 door 4 door 4 door 4 door 4 door 4 door 4 door 4 door 4 door 4 door 4 door 4 door 4 door 4 door 4 door 4 door 4 door 4 door 4 door[/SIZE]
| mrbell | 11-09-2004 07:16 PM |
uhm... I'm thinking that calls for a ban or something...
| AlbanianImpreza | 11-09-2004 07:18 PM |
i think it calls for u to shut the hell up! that sound good!~? godamn specialists
| mrbell | 11-09-2004 07:29 PM |
wow... you sure told me...
btw, your whities seem a bit TOO tightie... it's affecting your patience and temper
btw, your whities seem a bit TOO tightie... it's affecting your patience and temper
| MGXsport | 11-09-2004 08:04 PM |
[QUOTE=Keshav][url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393672[/url]
Translation: Impreza Sedans need not apply. Coupes only.
Would it be that difficult to make one for the 4-door?
My biggest concern is: Will it fit into my garage anymore? How much wider does this kit make the car? I'd hate to go through all the trouble only to have to park outside from then on.[/QUOTE]
I might be reading this wrong but he said he will be making them for the sedan and the wagon.
Translation: Impreza Sedans need not apply. Coupes only.
Would it be that difficult to make one for the 4-door?
My biggest concern is: Will it fit into my garage anymore? How much wider does this kit make the car? I'd hate to go through all the trouble only to have to park outside from then on.[/QUOTE]
I might be reading this wrong but he said he will be making them for the sedan and the wagon.
| DanzBorin | 11-10-2004 09:31 AM |
[QUOTE=AlbanianImpreza]i think it calls for u to shut the hell up! that sound good!~? godamn specialists[/QUOTE]
more like damn n00bs... ;)
the only people worse than n00bs are gurus, they su... oh wait, nevermind... :lol:
more like damn n00bs... ;)
the only people worse than n00bs are gurus, they su... oh wait, nevermind... :lol:
| AlbanianImpreza | 11-10-2004 06:14 PM |
godamn texans, go herd some cattle! ha
| mrbell | 11-10-2004 07:42 PM |
Damn Yankees! Go back to... uhm... New York
but no, lets get this thread back on topic so it doesn't get killed
but no, lets get this thread back on topic so it doesn't get killed
| Capt Crunch | 11-10-2004 07:48 PM |
[QUOTE=mrbell]uhm... I'm thinking that calls for a ban or something...[/QUOTE]
no it doesn't.
I can not wait for this kit to come out. Eventually someone will make the first super sick 22B replica stateside with an sti motor and tranny.
no it doesn't.
I can not wait for this kit to come out. Eventually someone will make the first super sick 22B replica stateside with an sti motor and tranny.
| AlbanianImpreza | 11-10-2004 11:42 PM |
[QUOTE=mrbell]Damn Yankees! Go back to... uhm... New York
but no, lets get this thread back on topic so it doesn't get killed[/QUOTE]
yeh how much would the cost be for a sedan version too lazy to see if it was written yet. but nothing beats good wholesome fun eh mrbell? YEEEEEEEHAWWWW
but no, lets get this thread back on topic so it doesn't get killed[/QUOTE]
yeh how much would the cost be for a sedan version too lazy to see if it was written yet. but nothing beats good wholesome fun eh mrbell? YEEEEEEEHAWWWW
| Scoobyslack1 | 11-11-2004 11:29 AM |
if you people are that impatiant go out and make your own kit or pay someone to make you some custom bodywork
Look they are trying to do this right, that takes time and in the mean time they have to work to pay the bills. It will be done when it's done, until then make your own, send donations to aerosim or just sit there quietly and wait.
Look they are trying to do this right, that takes time and in the mean time they have to work to pay the bills. It will be done when it's done, until then make your own, send donations to aerosim or just sit there quietly and wait.
| parker/slc/gc8fan | 12-13-2004 11:07 AM |
update on the four door?
| projectrally | 12-14-2004 08:48 PM |
**sitting quietly and waiting**
| AlbanianImpreza | 12-14-2004 09:02 PM |
chillin laxin
| Lachlan | 12-30-2004 08:53 PM |
Are the angles of the bumper on the sides of the air dam opening at a more obtuse angle than the 22B? From your pictures it looks like it, which I think is an improvement over the 22B bumper because the angles match the grill angles.
| Golfa | 12-31-2004 11:47 AM |
update on GDB kit!
| AlbanianImpreza | 01-01-2005 11:22 PM |
four door AYE-wayting
| John2.5RS | 01-20-2005 05:05 PM |
hello :banana:
| Aerosim Research Ltd | 01-20-2005 05:56 PM |
[QUOTE=Lachlan]Are the angles of the bumper on the sides of the air dam opening at a more obtuse angle than the 22B? From your pictures it looks like it, which I think is an improvement over the 22B bumper because the angles match the grill angles.[/QUOTE]
The bumper that's included in the kit is a replica of the Prodrive WRC 99 bumper, so it's a little different from the 22B. It also has the huge brake ducts under the turn signals.
Anyway, the kit is still happening. I finally cleared out the GC8 that was sitting in front of the oven and finished the WRX swap into it just before Christmas ... it's in our thread in the Southern California Vendor's forum if anyone's interested in checking it out. That's been a bid deal and finally frees up a load of space in the shop as well as killing a few bills in the process.
The weather's getting warm enough too ... perfect for laying up carbon.
-Steve
[email][email protected][/email]
The bumper that's included in the kit is a replica of the Prodrive WRC 99 bumper, so it's a little different from the 22B. It also has the huge brake ducts under the turn signals.
Anyway, the kit is still happening. I finally cleared out the GC8 that was sitting in front of the oven and finished the WRX swap into it just before Christmas ... it's in our thread in the Southern California Vendor's forum if anyone's interested in checking it out. That's been a bid deal and finally frees up a load of space in the shop as well as killing a few bills in the process.
The weather's getting warm enough too ... perfect for laying up carbon.
-Steve
[email][email protected][/email]
| Lachlan | 01-20-2005 07:11 PM |
Has the price changed any? Maybe down?
| zakats | 01-20-2005 09:34 PM |
yeah right!! But seriouslt, I would've been done a LONG time ago if it were me making the kit... that is if I had any idea where to start and knew what to do! :-p good works takes time though seriously, keep it up - I want a kit if I can get my hands on another impreza...Dad's has to go :( until then its the abandoned awd civic project and the starion(both for sale, both 86's)........
--zak--
--zak--
| CrazyMike13 | 01-20-2005 09:49 PM |
Well, at least the good news is, when the kit is finally done, i'll actually be able to afford it!
-CM!3
-CM!3
| Lachlan | 01-21-2005 08:53 PM |
auto-x gurus: Can you put these on an sm car, or would this push you up to Modified?
Edit: From what I gather, you can change the front and rear bumpers, front fenders, and side skirts all you like. I guess the question is can you change the quarter panels? You're allowed to change parts to accomodate allowed modificaitons, so if you need wider fenders in the rear to accomodate wider tires/wheels, and it isn't a great weight savings over the stock panels (is it?) then you can do it, right?
Edit: From what I gather, you can change the front and rear bumpers, front fenders, and side skirts all you like. I guess the question is can you change the quarter panels? You're allowed to change parts to accomodate allowed modificaitons, so if you need wider fenders in the rear to accomodate wider tires/wheels, and it isn't a great weight savings over the stock panels (is it?) then you can do it, right?
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