| austenf740 | 10-09-2002 03:37 PM |
what is involved with installing the LED's in the gauge cluster? I know how to get it out but after i have it sitting next to me what would i do to it? Is there also a way to change the stock CD player to a blue? I have not seen the inside of my car in about a week and a half so I would like any help you can give me. Thanks.
| Wagon Guy | 10-09-2002 03:55 PM |
austenf740
I took out the two screws that held the first hood in the dash, then removed the three screws that held the guage cluster itself in the dash. Then I pulled the cluster out as far as I could, which is basically sitting on top of the steering column, and did NOT have to unhook the wiring.
The stock bulbs are in plastic housings that screw in the instrument housing from the bottom. Just twist and pull these bulb housings, and change the bulbs, then reinsert bulb housing. If you do this with the car running and lights on you can see which one you're unscrewing, and see it change to blue when you plug it back in. This is best so you don't wind up changing the blinker, brake, high beam or other bulbs you did not intend to change.
Dan
I took out the two screws that held the first hood in the dash, then removed the three screws that held the guage cluster itself in the dash. Then I pulled the cluster out as far as I could, which is basically sitting on top of the steering column, and did NOT have to unhook the wiring.
The stock bulbs are in plastic housings that screw in the instrument housing from the bottom. Just twist and pull these bulb housings, and change the bulbs, then reinsert bulb housing. If you do this with the car running and lights on you can see which one you're unscrewing, and see it change to blue when you plug it back in. This is best so you don't wind up changing the blinker, brake, high beam or other bulbs you did not intend to change.
Dan
| khail19 | 10-09-2002 09:43 PM |
I'll answer a few questions\concerns
Hyper,
Unless the Forester uses different sockets than the Impreza (which I doubt), then the 168/194 LED with the plastic base does work. I know because these are what I am using in my HVAC controls. You need to shave the plastic down to the same width as the stock bulbs, which is right where the metal contacts are on the base. It is a tight fit, but it will push into the socket. Hope this works for you.
tsbarro,
Read above first. I didn't use the bulbs from ledtronics in my HVAC controls. The 168/194 bulbs are probably brighter than those are. My pic didn't turn out so well, in actuality the light is fairly even across the dials. The only thing is the orange defrost symbols on the right hand knob aren't that bright. I guess blue doesn't mix well with orange. But everything else is very visible and I am quite pleased with the results. Maybe Dan (Wagon Guy) will post how his worked out, he is using the ledtronics bulbs for the HVAC as well as the dash.
austenf740,
Pretty much what Dan said, with a couple of additions. If you do want to unplug the dash cluster, the only thing that will happen is the trip odometer will reset to zero. The actual vehicle mileage stays the same. I have done this 3 or 4 times and haven't had any problems. But if you do it Dan's way you won't have to do it twice like me. The led bulbs only come on with the right polarity, unlike a regular bulb. So I had to rotate a few of the sockets halfway around the second time. As far as the stereo, I have come across threads about changing the lights to blue while searching for help on removing the instrument cluster and the HVAC controls. You have to take apart the face of the stereo, which I can't do because I have an aftermerket head unit. And my RS comes with a regular cd player, not the 6 disc changer that the WRX gets. So do a search and see what you can find. Sorry I can't help you out more on that one.
Dan,
Maybe let tsbarro know how the ledtronics bulbs work in the HVAC controls, since I don't have them in mine. Unplugging the clock sounds like a good idea. Do you just pull up on the whole pod? I might try using a blue condom on the odometer bulb, that might even the light out some. Thanks for the ideas! Back to my car now!:devil:
Hope you all got the answers you needed. Post here or PM me if you need anything else. I'm working on a good place for a couple of gauges to go. I'm just waiting for my other gauge to get here. I'll post pics later to show you guys another cool mod to do.
Khail
Unless the Forester uses different sockets than the Impreza (which I doubt), then the 168/194 LED with the plastic base does work. I know because these are what I am using in my HVAC controls. You need to shave the plastic down to the same width as the stock bulbs, which is right where the metal contacts are on the base. It is a tight fit, but it will push into the socket. Hope this works for you.
tsbarro,
Read above first. I didn't use the bulbs from ledtronics in my HVAC controls. The 168/194 bulbs are probably brighter than those are. My pic didn't turn out so well, in actuality the light is fairly even across the dials. The only thing is the orange defrost symbols on the right hand knob aren't that bright. I guess blue doesn't mix well with orange. But everything else is very visible and I am quite pleased with the results. Maybe Dan (Wagon Guy) will post how his worked out, he is using the ledtronics bulbs for the HVAC as well as the dash.
austenf740,
Pretty much what Dan said, with a couple of additions. If you do want to unplug the dash cluster, the only thing that will happen is the trip odometer will reset to zero. The actual vehicle mileage stays the same. I have done this 3 or 4 times and haven't had any problems. But if you do it Dan's way you won't have to do it twice like me. The led bulbs only come on with the right polarity, unlike a regular bulb. So I had to rotate a few of the sockets halfway around the second time. As far as the stereo, I have come across threads about changing the lights to blue while searching for help on removing the instrument cluster and the HVAC controls. You have to take apart the face of the stereo, which I can't do because I have an aftermerket head unit. And my RS comes with a regular cd player, not the 6 disc changer that the WRX gets. So do a search and see what you can find. Sorry I can't help you out more on that one.
Dan,
Maybe let tsbarro know how the ledtronics bulbs work in the HVAC controls, since I don't have them in mine. Unplugging the clock sounds like a good idea. Do you just pull up on the whole pod? I might try using a blue condom on the odometer bulb, that might even the light out some. Thanks for the ideas! Back to my car now!:devil:
Hope you all got the answers you needed. Post here or PM me if you need anything else. I'm working on a good place for a couple of gauges to go. I'm just waiting for my other gauge to get here. I'll post pics later to show you guys another cool mod to do.
Khail
| Wagon Guy | 10-10-2002 09:33 AM |
Tsbarro
The bulbs I used in the HVAC slightly fade at the outer edges, not as much as khails pic shows his fading, but these pics are not exact either. I would say its minimal fade, and you CAN definitely see all outlined indicators.
Khail,
that pod where the clock sits is just held in by 4 of the pop-clips (technical name:) ) I pulled up on the hood that hangs over the clock and popped the back ones, then just worked it loose around towards the front and again just pulled. The front seemed harder.. be persistant and confident, nothing will break. you have two options. The clock sits behind a screen which will still be there if you pull the clock out. You could just pull the wire and leave the clock in place, or yank the clock like I did. The plate that is left on mine has the three button holes to adjust the clock, with the lettering left as well, I think its S, H, M. Anyways, my HKS TT gets here today on overnight delivery, so I will be putting it where the clock was. Some guys were relocating their clocks to the coin holder, but I am going to leave mine out.
If anyone needs the clock because they broke theirs they can have mine, I'll even pay the shipping.
The bulbs I used in the HVAC slightly fade at the outer edges, not as much as khails pic shows his fading, but these pics are not exact either. I would say its minimal fade, and you CAN definitely see all outlined indicators.
Khail,
that pod where the clock sits is just held in by 4 of the pop-clips (technical name:) ) I pulled up on the hood that hangs over the clock and popped the back ones, then just worked it loose around towards the front and again just pulled. The front seemed harder.. be persistant and confident, nothing will break. you have two options. The clock sits behind a screen which will still be there if you pull the clock out. You could just pull the wire and leave the clock in place, or yank the clock like I did. The plate that is left on mine has the three button holes to adjust the clock, with the lettering left as well, I think its S, H, M. Anyways, my HKS TT gets here today on overnight delivery, so I will be putting it where the clock was. Some guys were relocating their clocks to the coin holder, but I am going to leave mine out.
If anyone needs the clock because they broke theirs they can have mine, I'll even pay the shipping.
| Wagon Guy | 10-10-2002 09:35 AM |
I got the fog light and cruise switches out, disassembled them, tried painting the inside of the switch, it came out teal, so today or this weekend I am gonna clean out everything, and take out the green plastic if there is any, and use bulb paint from hobby lobby. I will get them blue damnit:lol:
DAN
DAN
| khail19 | 10-13-2002 03:02 AM |
Finally, we're back
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I think I'm addicted to i-club. Less than 24 hours without it and my life became empty! :lol: I took some pics of my new gauges for you guys. I'm pretty sure I'm not the first to put them in this location, but I haven't seen too many that have. I really don't like the a-pillar pods, and the dash pods are all too expensive or too ugly. So this is my solution. I also took apart my gauge cluster apart again to paint the instrument surround silver to match the rest of the dash. Bad lighting on these pics though, sorry about that. Let me know what you think.
Khail
Khail
| khail19 | 10-13-2002 03:04 AM |
another
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Here's the dash instruments
| austenf740 | 10-13-2002 03:22 AM |
looks good. would you say that the time and money you spent on all the dash lighting turned out to be worth it or would you have done other things if you knew how it would have turned out?
| khail19 | 10-13-2002 04:23 AM |
Thanks. I am definitely pleased with the blue dash lighting. I'm sort of obsessed with lighting in general (a future project will be a light bar to mount 4 Hella 500 driving lamps), so the time it took is really no worry. If it weren't for my car, I don't know what I would do on weekends. And the cost isn't much more than getting indiglo gauges, which I dislike the look of during the day. These aren't an option for me anyway since they don't make indiglos for the GDA 2.5RS. The ones for the WRX will fit, but the speedo and tach would both be off. My speedo only goes to 120 and my tach redlines at ~6300, as opposed to 140mph and ~7000 rpm in the WRX. So this was my best and only solution. Worth every second and penny to me! :D
Khail
Khail
| 128d | 10-13-2002 01:35 PM |
And I am still looking for someone who is willing to install mine for me. Did I mention I am paying, just name a price? :D
| Wagon Guy | 10-13-2002 05:32 PM |
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128D
what are you trying to install??? I am off of HWY 24 and could meet somewhere in the middle maybe?
And here's a pic of my new clock, some people call it a turbo timer though;) .
what are you trying to install??? I am off of HWY 24 and could meet somewhere in the middle maybe?
And here's a pic of my new clock, some people call it a turbo timer though;) .
| khail19 | 10-13-2002 05:44 PM |
Dan,
TT looks good there. What are the blue things on your vents?
Khail
TT looks good there. What are the blue things on your vents?
Khail
| Wagon Guy | 10-13-2002 05:46 PM |
Khail
those are my nicest mod of all, air fresheners from Walmart:lol:
those are my nicest mod of all, air fresheners from Walmart:lol:
| TonyWRX | 10-13-2002 06:44 PM |
Wagon guy....could you explain more about the TT install in the clock pod? Does it move around, was it hard, etc.
| Wagon Guy | 10-13-2002 07:03 PM |
TonyWRX
POP the dash piece out by pulling up. You can just push the clock out with effort. If you look into the opening from the back you'll see that there is a very very small lip on the left and right of the opening. I used an exacto knife to shave these edges off. It's probably less than a micrometer. Now its totally flat on the sides. The top to bottom gap is more than enough. I just pushed the TT from the rear into the hole, and its friction fit. If you don't go enough it will pop free when you try and put the dash panel back in place. Rule of thumb here is push the TT in to where the face/body seal is on the TT (the large groove running all the way around the TT) is flush with the opening. I assume you know how to wire it up, if not search my name and HKS TT, you will find a thread where someone linked me to ravensblade something or other.
Dan
POP the dash piece out by pulling up. You can just push the clock out with effort. If you look into the opening from the back you'll see that there is a very very small lip on the left and right of the opening. I used an exacto knife to shave these edges off. It's probably less than a micrometer. Now its totally flat on the sides. The top to bottom gap is more than enough. I just pushed the TT from the rear into the hole, and its friction fit. If you don't go enough it will pop free when you try and put the dash panel back in place. Rule of thumb here is push the TT in to where the face/body seal is on the TT (the large groove running all the way around the TT) is flush with the opening. I assume you know how to wire it up, if not search my name and HKS TT, you will find a thread where someone linked me to ravensblade something or other.
Dan
| TonyWRX | 10-13-2002 07:47 PM |
thanks...i'll try that :)
| z wrx | 10-13-2002 10:19 PM |
Is it possible to use the red or orange LEDs from this page ([url]http://www.netdisty.net/ds/WF150[/url]) to give the dash a more amber look like on BMWs and Audis?
| austenf740 | 10-13-2002 11:03 PM |
are the 194/168 4 bulb *extra brightness* bulbs from autodynamic.com brighter than the ledtronics ones? Will the 194/168 bulbs fit into the dash gauges or only into the HVAC?
| Wagon Guy | 10-13-2002 11:08 PM |
z wrx
These lights act like the stock ones, only a different color. In the dash, the numbers, and tick marks are all green (stock) with yellow needles. With the blue LED bulbs only the numbers, dash marks etc change to blue, and the needles to green, so I am sure you could use whichever bulb you choose. I am not sure what color your needles would turn out though, but I am sure it would work well enough for you. Good luck.
Dan
These lights act like the stock ones, only a different color. In the dash, the numbers, and tick marks are all green (stock) with yellow needles. With the blue LED bulbs only the numbers, dash marks etc change to blue, and the needles to green, so I am sure you could use whichever bulb you choose. I am not sure what color your needles would turn out though, but I am sure it would work well enough for you. Good luck.
Dan
| 128d | 10-13-2002 11:12 PM |
I need some one to install some blue LEDs for my dash. Also Wagon Guy is the the HKS TT?
| Wagon Guy | 10-13-2002 11:14 PM |
austenf740
I don't think anyone here has personally seen both bulbs in person, and basing it off the pics won't work, because I know my pics don't look exact, and I believe Khail said the same thing about his.
ASK the other place to compare this info...from LEDTRONICS order page
Voltage 24/28
(V) typ Current 15
(mA) typ Intensity (mcd) 125
Illumination angle 120
Intensity 2K mcd @ 20mA
I don't think anyone here has personally seen both bulbs in person, and basing it off the pics won't work, because I know my pics don't look exact, and I believe Khail said the same thing about his.
ASK the other place to compare this info...from LEDTRONICS order page
Voltage 24/28
(V) typ Current 15
(mA) typ Intensity (mcd) 125
Illumination angle 120
Intensity 2K mcd @ 20mA
| Wagon Guy | 10-13-2002 11:17 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by 128d [/i]
[B]I need some one to install some blue LEDs for my dash. Also Wagon Guy is the the HKS TT? [/B][/QUOTE]
If you can drive and meet somewhere I could get your LED's and TT done in about 2-3 hours max.. probably a lot faster than that with your help. I have done it all myself and know exactly what we'll have to do. If you were asking is the HKS a Turbo Timer, the answer is yes. If you meant can we install it, the answer is yes.
I'd be willing to link up as far as Evansville Indiana
Dan
[B]I need some one to install some blue LEDs for my dash. Also Wagon Guy is the the HKS TT? [/B][/QUOTE]
If you can drive and meet somewhere I could get your LED's and TT done in about 2-3 hours max.. probably a lot faster than that with your help. I have done it all myself and know exactly what we'll have to do. If you were asking is the HKS a Turbo Timer, the answer is yes. If you meant can we install it, the answer is yes.
I'd be willing to link up as far as Evansville Indiana
Dan
| khail19 | 10-14-2002 12:07 AM |
z wrx,
Any of those 4.5mm LEDs should work. The red and amber ones are cheaper too, for some reason. I think red dash illumination would be killer, but I'm not rich enough to buy another set since I've already had to buy 2 sets of the blue ones (the first ones I got were the wrong ones). If you do red or amber post some pics, I'd like to see how they look.
austenf740,
I don't know if the 194/168 LEDs are any brighter than the 4.5mm ones, but it seems that they have a wider viewing angle. This makes them more visible at an angle, instead of being more focused like the 4.5mm bulbs. The 194/168 bulbs will NOT work in the dash, because they don't fit through the holes in the circuit board. I tried this first, before I found the bulbs from ledtronics. They only work in the HVAC because they push in from the front, instead of removing the socket and putting them in from the back. You might be able to trim some plastic from the sides to get them to fit, but I don't know if this will affect light output or if the bulb will even work at all. Hope this helps.\
128d,
I'd do it for you, but halfway is probably in Wyoming somewhere, so you'd have to pay my gas money! :D Back on the second page Seraphim posted that he would help you out. I don't know how close Arlington Heights is to you, but it's gotta be closer than Nevada or Tenessee (did I spell that right?) Good luck
Khail
Any of those 4.5mm LEDs should work. The red and amber ones are cheaper too, for some reason. I think red dash illumination would be killer, but I'm not rich enough to buy another set since I've already had to buy 2 sets of the blue ones (the first ones I got were the wrong ones). If you do red or amber post some pics, I'd like to see how they look.
austenf740,
I don't know if the 194/168 LEDs are any brighter than the 4.5mm ones, but it seems that they have a wider viewing angle. This makes them more visible at an angle, instead of being more focused like the 4.5mm bulbs. The 194/168 bulbs will NOT work in the dash, because they don't fit through the holes in the circuit board. I tried this first, before I found the bulbs from ledtronics. They only work in the HVAC because they push in from the front, instead of removing the socket and putting them in from the back. You might be able to trim some plastic from the sides to get them to fit, but I don't know if this will affect light output or if the bulb will even work at all. Hope this helps.\
128d,
I'd do it for you, but halfway is probably in Wyoming somewhere, so you'd have to pay my gas money! :D Back on the second page Seraphim posted that he would help you out. I don't know how close Arlington Heights is to you, but it's gotta be closer than Nevada or Tenessee (did I spell that right?) Good luck
Khail
| 128d | 10-14-2002 12:17 AM |
khail19 I contacted him and never got a response. :(
| khail19 | 10-14-2002 12:26 AM |
That sucks. :( You'd think if someone was nice enough to offer help, they would be nice enough to respond. Oh well.
Khail
Khail
| 128d | 10-14-2002 12:41 AM |
Actually I think he just hasn't been online for a while and thus did not get my PM. (Hopefully) :D
| Hyper | 10-14-2002 12:46 AM |
hey gyus, are these wf150 bulbs are the same size as 194/168 ones?? I still don't get it (gotta stop drinking:D )
or are they like half the size of 194s?
or are they like half the size of 194s?
| 128d | 10-14-2002 12:53 AM |
I can't help you with that one but i can tell you to stop drinking is never the answer. :lol:
| khail19 | 10-14-2002 03:19 AM |
hyper,
Yes, the wf150 LEDs from ledtronics are much smaller than the 194/168 bulbs from autodynamic.com. Probably about half the size. They fit the dash and HVAC lights with no modification. The 194/168 LEDs only fit the HVAC lights and require trimming to fit in the sockets. The only reason I used them is I had them laying around. It would be better to order the wf150 for all the bulbs, they apparently are on backorder for 4-6 weeks though. Unless you want something besides blue.
Khail
Yes, the wf150 LEDs from ledtronics are much smaller than the 194/168 bulbs from autodynamic.com. Probably about half the size. They fit the dash and HVAC lights with no modification. The 194/168 LEDs only fit the HVAC lights and require trimming to fit in the sockets. The only reason I used them is I had them laying around. It would be better to order the wf150 for all the bulbs, they apparently are on backorder for 4-6 weeks though. Unless you want something besides blue.
Khail
| Hyper | 10-14-2002 03:39 AM |
I want red:D
also my cluster has two different kinds of bulbs - 2 for odometr and speedometr and 4 or 5 smaller ones, same as in heater
also my cluster has two different kinds of bulbs - 2 for odometr and speedometr and 4 or 5 smaller ones, same as in heater
| Wagon Guy | 10-14-2002 09:40 AM |
~128D
If E-ville is to far we can find some step by step write up you could use. Thats how I do most of my mods. I can PM you my tele# if you get stuck. I am sure you cando it yourself if I can:alien:
~Everyone else
You guys debating over which bulb to get, I seriously suggest you opt for the 4.5mm. They work without modification and you're gonna be pissed if you slip and cut too much off a 10 dollar bulb. These 4.5's let you see every line in every place. The only spots not visible are the redline ticks, and the defroster orange symbols. Also I bed that LEDtronics (no matter how convenient with the link here in the thread) is not the only place to source these bulbs. You have all the properties right there on the ledtronics web page, so just search and compare...who knows maybe you'll even find a brighter one.
DAN
If E-ville is to far we can find some step by step write up you could use. Thats how I do most of my mods. I can PM you my tele# if you get stuck. I am sure you cando it yourself if I can:alien:
~Everyone else
You guys debating over which bulb to get, I seriously suggest you opt for the 4.5mm. They work without modification and you're gonna be pissed if you slip and cut too much off a 10 dollar bulb. These 4.5's let you see every line in every place. The only spots not visible are the redline ticks, and the defroster orange symbols. Also I bed that LEDtronics (no matter how convenient with the link here in the thread) is not the only place to source these bulbs. You have all the properties right there on the ledtronics web page, so just search and compare...who knows maybe you'll even find a brighter one.
DAN
| khail19 | 10-15-2002 04:40 AM |
hyper,
There are two different size bulbs, but the size of the base that plugs into the socket is the same on both. Get the wf150 4.5mm, these will work in all the sockets. I would love to see pics of red if you do this.
And Dan is right guys, we could have probably found these cheaper if we searched a little more. It's too late for me now, but anyone who hasn't bought theirs yet might want to search around some more. I'm sure it doesn't cost anywhere near $10 to make these bulbs, and maybe another company marks them up less than ledtronics. And if you did find an alternate source, you wouldn't have a 4-6 week wait either!
Khail
There are two different size bulbs, but the size of the base that plugs into the socket is the same on both. Get the wf150 4.5mm, these will work in all the sockets. I would love to see pics of red if you do this.
And Dan is right guys, we could have probably found these cheaper if we searched a little more. It's too late for me now, but anyone who hasn't bought theirs yet might want to search around some more. I'm sure it doesn't cost anywhere near $10 to make these bulbs, and maybe another company marks them up less than ledtronics. And if you did find an alternate source, you wouldn't have a 4-6 week wait either!
Khail
| Evil Imports | 10-15-2002 05:50 AM |
khail19,
that a/f gauge is nice hehe
anyway the gauges look good where you put them
if anyway does Red dash lighting i wanna see it
that a/f gauge is nice hehe
anyway the gauges look good where you put them
if anyway does Red dash lighting i wanna see it
| khail19 | 10-15-2002 09:40 PM |
Thanks to Evil Imports for my A/F gauge! He gave me a good deal. Wanna sell me anything else for cheap? :D
Khail
Khail
| Hyper | 10-15-2002 11:21 PM |
I will for sure...as soon as I pay my 300 dollars parking ticket:mad: :mad: :mad:
Where do you guys think I can find that bulbs except for net? What stores should I browse?
Where do you guys think I can find that bulbs except for net? What stores should I browse?
| Evil Imports | 10-16-2002 01:55 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by khail19 [/i]
[B]Thanks to Evil Imports for my A/F gauge! He gave me a good deal. Wanna sell me anything else for cheap? :D
Khail [/B][/QUOTE]
what else are you looking for??? PM with stuff you are looking for and i will see if i can get it
[B]Thanks to Evil Imports for my A/F gauge! He gave me a good deal. Wanna sell me anything else for cheap? :D
Khail [/B][/QUOTE]
what else are you looking for??? PM with stuff you are looking for and i will see if i can get it
| khail19 | 10-19-2002 02:09 AM |
Bump for CaptainMorgan
Anyone do the red dash LEDs yet? Just checking.
Khail
Khail
| z wrx | 10-19-2002 11:09 AM |
I'll be ordering the red LEDs this week hopefully :D
| Wagon Guy | 11-02-2002 09:29 AM |
Different web site
Just an update for some of you who can't find bulbs in stock..
[URL]http://www.eled.com[/URL]
A friend with a Volvo C70R ordered from them, and said they are super cheap, and good response times. I have no personal experience however.
Be sure to check bulb voltage as you may need restrictors for smaller bulbs like in switches.
[URL]http://www.eled.com[/URL]
A friend with a Volvo C70R ordered from them, and said they are super cheap, and good response times. I have no personal experience however.
Be sure to check bulb voltage as you may need restrictors for smaller bulbs like in switches.
| ScoobyStew | 11-02-2002 01:10 PM |
LEDTRONICS IS FAST
I just ordered the blue 4.5mm from LEDTRONICS on October 22nd and they told me 4-6 weeks. They got here YESTERDAY! I was shocked, that's like 10 days. Maybe they just got a new shipment in? Anyway if you want em put your order in. Can't wait to install em today.:)
| imprezive one | 11-02-2002 01:46 PM |
wow... this thread is awesome. 8 4.5mm's and pop those babies in and you're done. My problem now though is i'm wondering if I can change my greddy 60 mm gauges to red... the bulbs that are used are just plain white so that would lead me to believe that their is a translucent green panel behind the gauge face that turns the white light into green. Anyone know how to take apart a greddy gauge without breaking it? I'd rather not tamper with that expensive of a gauge but if it's not that hard then I'd give it a go.
| superhawk44 | 11-02-2002 05:23 PM |
RED!!!
SomEone please post a pic of red,I am on the fence about red and blue but have seen pics of blue. I really like other red dashes I have seen like pontiacs but need to see a wrx pic with red led's first. My stereo is on its way to be done soon and must choose red or blue,I am thinking red with blue display,sound good? Somone please post a pic,CHRIS.........:alien: :alien: :alien:
| imprezive one | 11-02-2002 05:30 PM |
okay one more question... I went to the LEDtronics web site like everyone else and noticed that there are three diff styles of T1½ (4.5mm) Midget Wedge Based LEDs (that's the correct size right?). The three styles are WF-150 - seems to be a single diode, W156 standard - seems to be six diodes put together (therefore I think it's brighter than the WF-150), and then the W-156 super - looks to be the brightest out of them with six super intensity diodes. I can see how the standard blue WF-150's that you guys are using would work just fine to light up the dash but I since I want to go with red I think it would look a little dull if I used the WF-150's. I'm thinking about getting the W-156 standards or the supers. If the LED replacement works with the dimmer switch then I'll definitely get the supers, as I can dim them if they're too bright. So does the dimmer switch work with the replacement and does anyone know if the W-156 styles are indeed a lot brighter than the WF-150's?
You can see what I mean about diff styles here"
WF-150: [url]http://www.netdisty.net/ds/WF150/[/url]
W-156 standard: [url]http://www.netdisty.net/ds/w156cr7/[/url]
W-156 super: [url]http://www.netdisty.net/ds/w156/[/url]
I want the red to be a vivid deep bright red, not a faded out orangish or pink looking red, which is why I'm leaning towards the 6 diode ones, the color options look better on the site for them, and again, I think they'd be a lot brighter. Would these work?
You can see what I mean about diff styles here"
WF-150: [url]http://www.netdisty.net/ds/WF150/[/url]
W-156 standard: [url]http://www.netdisty.net/ds/w156cr7/[/url]
W-156 super: [url]http://www.netdisty.net/ds/w156/[/url]
I want the red to be a vivid deep bright red, not a faded out orangish or pink looking red, which is why I'm leaning towards the 6 diode ones, the color options look better on the site for them, and again, I think they'd be a lot brighter. Would these work?
| ScoobyStew | 11-02-2002 06:36 PM |
Imprezive-
I wondered the same thing about the 156 super-intensity ones. Notice though that the the lowest voltage they have is 24, while the 150's that are known to work in the dash (I just put mine in) are 12/14V. I don't know much about electronics, but I would think that having double the voltage would matter? Maybe I'll call LEDTRONICS on Monday and ask...
I wondered the same thing about the 156 super-intensity ones. Notice though that the the lowest voltage they have is 24, while the 150's that are known to work in the dash (I just put mine in) are 12/14V. I don't know much about electronics, but I would think that having double the voltage would matter? Maybe I'll call LEDTRONICS on Monday and ask...
| imprezive one | 11-02-2002 06:56 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ScoobyStew [/i]
[B]Imprezive-
I wondered the same thing about the 156 super-intensity ones. Notice though that the the lowest voltage they have is 24, while the 150's that are known to work in the dash (I just put mine in) are 12/14V. I don't know much about electronics, but I would think that having double the voltage would matter? Maybe I'll call LEDTRONICS on Monday and ask... [/B][/QUOTE]
Hmm yeah I see your point. Let us know what they say on Monday. I think the 156 standard intensity ones would still be brighter than the 150's though just by reason of they have more LED's in them. I'm not for sure though. Eh, we'll see.
[B]Imprezive-
I wondered the same thing about the 156 super-intensity ones. Notice though that the the lowest voltage they have is 24, while the 150's that are known to work in the dash (I just put mine in) are 12/14V. I don't know much about electronics, but I would think that having double the voltage would matter? Maybe I'll call LEDTRONICS on Monday and ask... [/B][/QUOTE]
Hmm yeah I see your point. Let us know what they say on Monday. I think the 156 standard intensity ones would still be brighter than the 150's though just by reason of they have more LED's in them. I'm not for sure though. Eh, we'll see.
| khail19 | 11-02-2002 07:17 PM |
To answer a few questions...
Yes the dimmer switch does work on the LED replacement bulbs. I don't know if this will affect the longevity of the bulb, but I leave mine at full bright all the time anyway. I do not recomend using the 24V LEDs, because the 14V are already dimmer than they should be. The dash lights only run at around 9.5V, so using a 24V bulb would be really dim. The 14V LEDs get brighter if they are put on a 14V power source (I've tested this myself), but even at 9.5V they are still very visible in my car.
Khail
Yes the dimmer switch does work on the LED replacement bulbs. I don't know if this will affect the longevity of the bulb, but I leave mine at full bright all the time anyway. I do not recomend using the 24V LEDs, because the 14V are already dimmer than they should be. The dash lights only run at around 9.5V, so using a 24V bulb would be really dim. The 14V LEDs get brighter if they are put on a 14V power source (I've tested this myself), but even at 9.5V they are still very visible in my car.
Khail
| DrBoy01 | 11-02-2002 09:15 PM |
I read this thread and the other thread about Stereo Lighting and I'm still somewhat confused.
So, all I need are to buy the WF-150 LEDs from LEDtronics or a similar site, open up the gauge housing, take off the bulb housing, unscrew the current bulb, and put in the LED that I buy? No soldering required? No cutting or modification? It sounds too good to be true...
Can someone help me out, please? Thanks! :D
So, all I need are to buy the WF-150 LEDs from LEDtronics or a similar site, open up the gauge housing, take off the bulb housing, unscrew the current bulb, and put in the LED that I buy? No soldering required? No cutting or modification? It sounds too good to be true...
Can someone help me out, please? Thanks! :D
| Wagon Guy | 11-03-2002 12:02 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DrBoy01 [/i]
[B]I read this thread and the other thread about Stereo Lighting and I'm still somewhat confused.
So, all I need are to buy the WF-150 LEDs from LEDtronics or a similar site, open up the gauge housing, take off the bulb housing, unscrew the current bulb, and put in the LED that I buy? No soldering required? No cutting or modification? It sounds too good to be true...
Can someone help me out, please? Thanks! :D [/B][/QUOTE]
DrBoy01 get the WF150-OPB-014V and when you unscrew the instrument cluster and pull it towards you, the bulbs are accessible (sp) from the back of the cluster. The bulbs are fitted into small plastic housings which are twist fit in the cluster itself. You give the bulb housing a half twist and the whole thing comes right out. Then you swap the bulbs,, pull, then plug no extra soldering, and half twist the housing back in. Put everything back in it's place and enjoy the show. You can do this with the ignition on so you see which bulb your pulling as you do it. You don't want to pull the turn signal, door ajar or others.
[B]I read this thread and the other thread about Stereo Lighting and I'm still somewhat confused.
So, all I need are to buy the WF-150 LEDs from LEDtronics or a similar site, open up the gauge housing, take off the bulb housing, unscrew the current bulb, and put in the LED that I buy? No soldering required? No cutting or modification? It sounds too good to be true...
Can someone help me out, please? Thanks! :D [/B][/QUOTE]
DrBoy01 get the WF150-OPB-014V and when you unscrew the instrument cluster and pull it towards you, the bulbs are accessible (sp) from the back of the cluster. The bulbs are fitted into small plastic housings which are twist fit in the cluster itself. You give the bulb housing a half twist and the whole thing comes right out. Then you swap the bulbs,, pull, then plug no extra soldering, and half twist the housing back in. Put everything back in it's place and enjoy the show. You can do this with the ignition on so you see which bulb your pulling as you do it. You don't want to pull the turn signal, door ajar or others.
| Hyper | 11-03-2002 12:42 AM |
wow
that's easier then I expected
what about [URL=http://www.eled.com/]this site[/URL] ? Do they have right bulbs?
that's easier then I expected
what about [URL=http://www.eled.com/]this site[/URL] ? Do they have right bulbs?
| khail19 | 11-03-2002 10:38 AM |
I looked through eled.com for a while, but I couldn't find the right bulbs there. They probably have them though. Maybe drop them an e-mail or call them to find out. Their site isn't laid out very well for finding things.
Khail
Khail
| khail19 | 11-03-2002 10:47 AM |
Anyone do red LEDs yet? I would still like to see this.
Khail
Khail
| 03 Silver Bullet | 11-03-2002 02:07 PM |
I wanna second that! I got the silver faced greddy boost gauge that illuminates red as well as my tt, hence want to change all the instrument panel lights to Red. I think that will look Sweeet!
Pics anyone?
:D
Pics anyone?
:D
| DrBoy01 | 11-03-2002 02:16 PM |
Is the HVAC control lighting as easy to change as the dash lighting? Do they use the same bulbs with the same voltage? Or is it more difficult to pull off the panels to actually get to the bulbs?
Sorry, I'm just full of questions today :rolleyes:
EDIT: Read some more of this thread, and I answered my own questions. Thanks a lot, guys! This really helps me out. I should have a nice project on my hands in a little while... :D
Sorry, I'm just full of questions today :rolleyes:
EDIT: Read some more of this thread, and I answered my own questions. Thanks a lot, guys! This really helps me out. I should have a nice project on my hands in a little while... :D
| Hyper | 11-03-2002 02:52 PM |
I wrote them and waiting for reply
| Wagon Guy | 11-04-2002 01:29 PM |
Hey guys sorry about the ELED link. Obviously they do not have the 4.5mm bulbs needed for the Dash/HVAC bulbs, but one thing to note is the pricing on smaller bulbs, so if you want to change things like fog light switches, stereo bulbs, etc. maybe they will be of use in another project. Who is gonna be the first with red??
Dan
Dan
| Wagon Guy | 11-04-2002 01:31 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DrBoy01 [/i]
[B] This really helps me out. I should have a nice project on my hands in a little while... :D [/B][/QUOTE]
Whats the hold up???:D
[B] This really helps me out. I should have a nice project on my hands in a little while... :D [/B][/QUOTE]
Whats the hold up???:D
| Hyper | 11-04-2002 01:34 PM |
fog swithces uses same bulbs...I took them out and they were kinda small, I didn't compare them with dash ones (btw, I have 2 different sizes of bulbs in dash! 2 bigger for speedometr/odometr...)
I am going to make red one, but still searching for the bulbs locally
I am going to make red one, but still searching for the bulbs locally
| chill105 | 11-04-2002 07:29 PM |
Cruise/fog button light
How do you access the bulb in the cruise control/ fog light buttons?
I took off the dash below the steering wheel, unhooked the wiring harness, and pushed the whole button unit through. However, I couldn't figure out how to open it up!
Anybody know how? Do I just pull really hard? I didn't want to break it.
BTW, I've done my HVAC and stock stereo ('02 OBS- not WRX) with blue bulb condoms as opposed to the LED's. It gives an aqua color, which I kinda like. Hopefully I'll have some pictures soon. Also, they posted a thread on scoobymods.com today which explains how to do the stereo and HVAC with LEDs, using the resistor method (involves soldering). I don't think you can buy LEDs that retrofit the stereo- they're too small. The pictures look SWEEEEEEET though.
I took off the dash below the steering wheel, unhooked the wiring harness, and pushed the whole button unit through. However, I couldn't figure out how to open it up!
Anybody know how? Do I just pull really hard? I didn't want to break it.
BTW, I've done my HVAC and stock stereo ('02 OBS- not WRX) with blue bulb condoms as opposed to the LED's. It gives an aqua color, which I kinda like. Hopefully I'll have some pictures soon. Also, they posted a thread on scoobymods.com today which explains how to do the stereo and HVAC with LEDs, using the resistor method (involves soldering). I don't think you can buy LEDs that retrofit the stereo- they're too small. The pictures look SWEEEEEEET though.
| ScoobyStew | 11-04-2002 07:39 PM |
Anyone know if the blue bulbs from LEDTRONICS would work on a TS wagon? I did the dash and HVAC in my WRX and now my sister wants hers done in her wagon.:rolleyes:
| Hyper | 11-04-2002 08:04 PM |
Re: Cruise/fog button light
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by chill105 [/i]
[B]How do you access the bulb in the cruise control/ fog light buttons?
I took off the dash below the steering wheel, unhooked the wiring harness, and pushed the whole button unit through. However, I couldn't figure out how to open it up!
Anybody know how? Do I just pull really hard? I didn't want to break it.
BTW, I've done my HVAC and stock stereo ('02 OBS- not WRX) with blue bulb condoms as opposed to the LED's. It gives an aqua color, which I kinda like. Hopefully I'll have some pictures soon. Also, they posted a thread on scoobymods.com today which explains how to do the stereo and HVAC with LEDs, using the resistor method (involves soldering). I don't think you can buy LEDs that retrofit the stereo- they're too small. The pictures look SWEEEEEEET though. [/B][/QUOTE]
I even went an easier way
used screwdriver to pull out the switch (I'm lazy:D )
then I completely opened it (sits on clips) and realized then I didn't have to:
-when you have it in your hand, look at the rear side and you'll see two Tomd Raider style circle things...turn them (don't remember which side so try both) and then they will come out and you'll have access to the bulb
[B]How do you access the bulb in the cruise control/ fog light buttons?
I took off the dash below the steering wheel, unhooked the wiring harness, and pushed the whole button unit through. However, I couldn't figure out how to open it up!
Anybody know how? Do I just pull really hard? I didn't want to break it.
BTW, I've done my HVAC and stock stereo ('02 OBS- not WRX) with blue bulb condoms as opposed to the LED's. It gives an aqua color, which I kinda like. Hopefully I'll have some pictures soon. Also, they posted a thread on scoobymods.com today which explains how to do the stereo and HVAC with LEDs, using the resistor method (involves soldering). I don't think you can buy LEDs that retrofit the stereo- they're too small. The pictures look SWEEEEEEET though. [/B][/QUOTE]
I even went an easier way
used screwdriver to pull out the switch (I'm lazy:D )
then I completely opened it (sits on clips) and realized then I didn't have to:
-when you have it in your hand, look at the rear side and you'll see two Tomd Raider style circle things...turn them (don't remember which side so try both) and then they will come out and you'll have access to the bulb
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