| nate49509 | 03-31-2006 12:15 AM |
Even the side by side stuff like the WRC does sometimes would make an awesome sport by itself.
| Weemus | 03-31-2006 03:22 AM |
F U Speed Channel
ESPN is now the "favorite channel"
I hope is explodes and takes off, maybe then someone will carry WRC again ;)
ESPN is now the "favorite channel"
I hope is explodes and takes off, maybe then someone will carry WRC again ;)
| piits | 03-31-2006 07:23 AM |
one should not mix togeather stage rally and rally/autocross (according to FIA terms). I've been watching CORE lately, and i admit it's fun to watch, but stage rally is about something else. if x-games can come up, with a stage tv coverage similar to that, used in WRC for a few times - that is the right direction.
| johnnyb | 04-03-2006 07:57 PM |
I wonder if DC Shoe's Ken Block had much to do with it. DC is involved in pretty much every X-Games sport.
| Storm | 04-03-2006 11:56 PM |
To me it looks like this:
ESPN starts judging big air contests for mediocre MX racers and hits a home run with fans. Now Freestyle MX is more of a draw than MX racing outright.
ESPN sees a correlation of hardcore guys up north doing cool things with snowmobiles and puts them into the show. Bam....another home run as the sport of sled racing takes off. Obsoleting any other sled-derived dicipline (like hillcliming) and killing any chance of TV coverage. It's only a short time before we see freestyle sled competitions. We already have the freestyle MX folks doing their thing on snow anyway.
ESPN catches an episode of Motorsports Mundial and sees some Euro rallysprints and puts 2+2 together, except they label it as something that is brand new and markets it as something it isn't or worse...totally botch the coverage and bring bad consequences to the rest of the stage rally world trying to secure media coverage and grow the fan base.
I'll watch it to see how it turns out but am cautiously optimistic at most. Hopefully it will actually help bring attention to the sport of rally through more coverage of stage rally. I fear that it'll make a mockery of it which will hurt or kill the chances of getting more media coverage.
ESPN starts judging big air contests for mediocre MX racers and hits a home run with fans. Now Freestyle MX is more of a draw than MX racing outright.
ESPN sees a correlation of hardcore guys up north doing cool things with snowmobiles and puts them into the show. Bam....another home run as the sport of sled racing takes off. Obsoleting any other sled-derived dicipline (like hillcliming) and killing any chance of TV coverage. It's only a short time before we see freestyle sled competitions. We already have the freestyle MX folks doing their thing on snow anyway.
ESPN catches an episode of Motorsports Mundial and sees some Euro rallysprints and puts 2+2 together, except they label it as something that is brand new and markets it as something it isn't or worse...totally botch the coverage and bring bad consequences to the rest of the stage rally world trying to secure media coverage and grow the fan base.
I'll watch it to see how it turns out but am cautiously optimistic at most. Hopefully it will actually help bring attention to the sport of rally through more coverage of stage rally. I fear that it'll make a mockery of it which will hurt or kill the chances of getting more media coverage.
| greg donovan | 04-04-2006 12:55 AM |
[QUOTE=Storm]To me it looks like this:
ESPN starts judging big air contests for mediocre MX racers and hits a home run with fans. Now Freestyle MX is more of a draw than MX racing outright.
ESPN sees a correlation of hardcore guys up north doing cool things with snowmobiles and puts them into the show. Bam....another home run as the sport of sled racing takes off. Obsoleting any other sled-derived dicipline (like hillcliming) and killing any chance of TV coverage. It's only a short time before we see freestyle sled competitions. We already have the freestyle MX folks doing their thing on snow anyway.
ESPN catches an episode of Motorsports Mundial and sees some Euro rallysprints and puts 2+2 together, except they label it as something that is brand new and markets it as something it isn't or worse...totally botch the coverage and bring bad consequences to the rest of the stage rally world trying to secure media coverage and grow the fan base.
I'll watch it to see how it turns out but am cautiously optimistic at most. Hopefully it will actually help bring attention to the sport of rally through more coverage of stage rally. I fear that it'll make a mockery of it which will hurt or kill the chances of getting more media coverage.[/QUOTE]
if you read the whole press release carefully you will see that it is a real rally with six special stages and one stadium super special over two days.
the powers that be are looking to fill the ranks with existing north american rally drivers. not first time celebrities that will provide spectacular carnage.
it should be a great showcase for real tally talent. might even include some 2wd guys.
ESPN starts judging big air contests for mediocre MX racers and hits a home run with fans. Now Freestyle MX is more of a draw than MX racing outright.
ESPN sees a correlation of hardcore guys up north doing cool things with snowmobiles and puts them into the show. Bam....another home run as the sport of sled racing takes off. Obsoleting any other sled-derived dicipline (like hillcliming) and killing any chance of TV coverage. It's only a short time before we see freestyle sled competitions. We already have the freestyle MX folks doing their thing on snow anyway.
ESPN catches an episode of Motorsports Mundial and sees some Euro rallysprints and puts 2+2 together, except they label it as something that is brand new and markets it as something it isn't or worse...totally botch the coverage and bring bad consequences to the rest of the stage rally world trying to secure media coverage and grow the fan base.
I'll watch it to see how it turns out but am cautiously optimistic at most. Hopefully it will actually help bring attention to the sport of rally through more coverage of stage rally. I fear that it'll make a mockery of it which will hurt or kill the chances of getting more media coverage.[/QUOTE]
if you read the whole press release carefully you will see that it is a real rally with six special stages and one stadium super special over two days.
the powers that be are looking to fill the ranks with existing north american rally drivers. not first time celebrities that will provide spectacular carnage.
it should be a great showcase for real tally talent. might even include some 2wd guys.
| bjorn240 | 05-04-2006 02:38 PM |
Don't know why we haven't discussed this here - it's been hot topic on SS.
Anyway, selection criteria has been posted:
[url]http://www.rally-america.com/story.php?article=96[/url]
In short, driver selections will be:
a) 2-4 "At Large" entries for high-profile drivers not recognized as Rally America Drivers
b) 6-8 Rally America entries picked by a 7 member selection committee
c) 2 Rally America qualifiers - highest finisher at STPR and Maine, not selected above
d) 2-4 Rally America 2wd drivers
Criteria are talent, commitment to the series, speed factors, and 2005/2006 podium finishes, and the likelihood that competitors will be series regulars in the future. The selection committee consists of JB Niday, Ben Bradley, John Buffum, Ken Block, Nathalie Richard, Dave Coleman, and Bill Wood.
- Christian
Anyway, selection criteria has been posted:
[url]http://www.rally-america.com/story.php?article=96[/url]
In short, driver selections will be:
a) 2-4 "At Large" entries for high-profile drivers not recognized as Rally America Drivers
b) 6-8 Rally America entries picked by a 7 member selection committee
c) 2 Rally America qualifiers - highest finisher at STPR and Maine, not selected above
d) 2-4 Rally America 2wd drivers
Criteria are talent, commitment to the series, speed factors, and 2005/2006 podium finishes, and the likelihood that competitors will be series regulars in the future. The selection committee consists of JB Niday, Ben Bradley, John Buffum, Ken Block, Nathalie Richard, Dave Coleman, and Bill Wood.
- Christian
| Dr. WOT | 05-04-2006 04:09 PM |
I hope they do it right, Rally can use the exposure. I agree it is important to promote the correct version on rally. Those stadium super specials always play to packed houses everywhere else in the world, so why not here? X-Games would provide a perfect captive audience.
| fliz | 05-04-2006 05:28 PM |
[QUOTE=bjorn240]
a) 2-4 "At Large" entries for high-profile drivers not recognized as Rally America Drivers
- Christian[/QUOTE]
Do you have any rumors on who these 2-4 drivers might be?
I heard an interesting one...but was asked not to repeat it.
a) 2-4 "At Large" entries for high-profile drivers not recognized as Rally America Drivers
- Christian[/QUOTE]
Do you have any rumors on who these 2-4 drivers might be?
I heard an interesting one...but was asked not to repeat it.
| bjorn240 | 05-04-2006 05:47 PM |
Yeah, I've heard lots of rumors. Out of respect for Rally America and the selection committee, I'm not going to comment on them. I'm certain they'll be making an announcement soon.
- Christian
- Christian
| snwbrder206 | 05-04-2006 07:19 PM |
I am also curious about the "2-4 "At Large" entries for high-profile drivers not recognized as Rally America Drivers" but will try to wait and see who they just might be.
I hope this helps fuel this sport in North America beyond WRC now haveing a stop in Mexico... maybe making room for a US stop as well. And getting more youth out and getting into rallying to help education and experiance at younger ages like in Europe.
Best of luck to all those involved in this and I hope it goes off as a success.
I hope this helps fuel this sport in North America beyond WRC now haveing a stop in Mexico... maybe making room for a US stop as well. And getting more youth out and getting into rallying to help education and experiance at younger ages like in Europe.
Best of luck to all those involved in this and I hope it goes off as a success.
| mrwrx2002 | 05-04-2006 07:23 PM |
fan frickin tastic
| Pete 97 GS-T | 05-04-2006 07:43 PM |
[QUOTE=snwbrder206]I am also curious about the "2-4 "At Large" entries for high-profile drivers not recognized as Rally America Drivers" but will try to wait and see who they just might be.
I hope this helps fuel this sport in North America beyond WRC now haveing a stop in Mexico... maybe making room for a US stop as well. And getting more youth out and getting into rallying to help education and experiance at younger ages like in Europe.
Best of luck to all those involved in this and I hope it goes off as a success.[/QUOTE]
Let's just hope it gets more people into it, both competitors and workers. That'll lessen entry fees, increase sponsorship, make for better cars and drivers which will make a better show. More workers make for a safe event. We ain't ready for WRC yet.
I hope this helps fuel this sport in North America beyond WRC now haveing a stop in Mexico... maybe making room for a US stop as well. And getting more youth out and getting into rallying to help education and experiance at younger ages like in Europe.
Best of luck to all those involved in this and I hope it goes off as a success.[/QUOTE]
Let's just hope it gets more people into it, both competitors and workers. That'll lessen entry fees, increase sponsorship, make for better cars and drivers which will make a better show. More workers make for a safe event. We ain't ready for WRC yet.
| M. Hurst | 05-04-2006 08:53 PM |
[QUOTE=bjorn240]Yeah, I've heard lots of rumors.
- Christian[/QUOTE]
We shouldn't have to wait long, there should be an announcement before STPR June 3.
I'm not part of the process...but according to the rumor mill :) , you can put an emphasis on [B]high profile[/B]!
- Christian[/QUOTE]
We shouldn't have to wait long, there should be an announcement before STPR June 3.
I'm not part of the process...but according to the rumor mill :) , you can put an emphasis on [B]high profile[/B]!
| XenoWolf | 05-04-2006 09:27 PM |
High profile as in.... WRC? *giddy*
| STi-MAN | 05-04-2006 09:28 PM |
i hope theres alot of room for rookies to participate. sounds awesome..
| WRXedUSA | 05-04-2006 11:37 PM |
I'm thinking Nascar drivers.
| fliz | 05-05-2006 01:03 AM |
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]I'm thinking Nascar drivers.[/QUOTE]
I'm thinking rally drivers who have their names on XBox/Playstation games...so the kiddies recognize them.
I'm thinking rally drivers who have their names on XBox/Playstation games...so the kiddies recognize them.
| fliz | 05-17-2006 10:11 PM |
First six names have been released.
[url]http://www.rally-america.com/story.php?article=100[/url]
[url]http://www.rally-america.com/story.php?article=100[/url]
| greg donovan | 05-17-2006 10:19 PM |
[QUOTE=fliz]First six names have been released.
[url]http://www.rally-america.com/story.php?article=100[/url][/QUOTE]
there are 7 on the early list.
[url]http://www.rally-america.com/story.php?article=100[/url][/QUOTE]
there are 7 on the early list.
| fliz | 05-17-2006 10:22 PM |
[QUOTE=greg donovan]there are 7 on the early list.[/QUOTE]
oops...I can't count. I guess that's why I'm driving, not navigating...
oops...I can't count. I guess that's why I'm driving, not navigating...
| spdracr00 | 05-17-2006 11:45 PM |
lol, i'm shocked that travis and ken are on the list.. but getting colin is pretty big i think..
| Phil Jr. | 05-17-2006 11:59 PM |
[QUOTE=Jtree]that is funny.
it'll be interesting to see the after effect, as unlike all the other x games sports, a 13 yr old kid can't partake in rally. it'll grow intrest in rally, but it won't explode the particapation #'s like we need for rally to grow, the costs, dedication, skills to get a car prepped to run are probably outside the range of most x games followers. you may buy a board or bike 'cuz tony hawk/dave mirra ride it, but are you going to plunk down 25k$ to buy a car that looks like what Pat Richard races? although a PR edition WRX would be the ultimate in Pro models :)[/QUOTE]
you better effin believe kids will want to do that, and thats all that counts. They will find the money somehow.
this is such great news im almost beside myself :D
it'll be interesting to see the after effect, as unlike all the other x games sports, a 13 yr old kid can't partake in rally. it'll grow intrest in rally, but it won't explode the particapation #'s like we need for rally to grow, the costs, dedication, skills to get a car prepped to run are probably outside the range of most x games followers. you may buy a board or bike 'cuz tony hawk/dave mirra ride it, but are you going to plunk down 25k$ to buy a car that looks like what Pat Richard races? although a PR edition WRX would be the ultimate in Pro models :)[/QUOTE]
you better effin believe kids will want to do that, and thats all that counts. They will find the money somehow.
this is such great news im almost beside myself :D
| greg donovan | 05-18-2006 12:04 AM |
a kid can go out and get his parents to buy a bicycle that looks like a x games motorcycle.
what would be really cool is a power wheels that looks like a rally car that i could go out and buy my 4 year old.
what would be really cool is a power wheels that looks like a rally car that i could go out and buy my 4 year old.
| M. Hurst | 05-18-2006 12:16 AM |
The Mr. Obvious show
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[QUOTE=Jtree]
it'll be interesting to see the after effect, as unlike all the other x games sports, a 13 yr old kid can't partake in rally. it'll grow intrest in rally, but it won't explode the particapation #'s like we need for rally to grow, the costs, dedication, skills to get a car prepped to run are probably outside the range of most x games followers. you may buy a board or bike 'cuz tony hawk/dave mirra ride it, but are you going to plunk down 25k$ to buy a car that looks like what Pat Richard races? [/QUOTE]
The vast majority of 13 year olds don't stay 13 years old.....
...children...adults of the future?? ;)
it'll be interesting to see the after effect, as unlike all the other x games sports, a 13 yr old kid can't partake in rally. it'll grow intrest in rally, but it won't explode the particapation #'s like we need for rally to grow, the costs, dedication, skills to get a car prepped to run are probably outside the range of most x games followers. you may buy a board or bike 'cuz tony hawk/dave mirra ride it, but are you going to plunk down 25k$ to buy a car that looks like what Pat Richard races? [/QUOTE]
The vast majority of 13 year olds don't stay 13 years old.....
...children...adults of the future?? ;)
| Chromer | 05-18-2006 09:05 AM |
[QUOTE=spdracr00]but getting colin is pretty big i think..[/QUOTE]
Apply sufficient money in the form of an appearance fee, and nearly anything becomes possible...
Meantime: Go PAT!
Apply sufficient money in the form of an appearance fee, and nearly anything becomes possible...
Meantime: Go PAT!
| M. Hurst | 05-18-2006 09:19 AM |
[QUOTE=Chromer]Apply sufficient money in the form of an appearance fee, and nearly anything becomes possible...
Meantime: Go PAT![/QUOTE]
[I]The following is the official selection criteria document for the X Games 12 Rally:
X Games 12, Rally America, Rally Event
........
II.
[B]Invitees will receive no expense reimbursement, appearance fee or other compensation, other than the prize purse, from either ESPN or Rally America[/B]. The prize purse will be established by ESPN. 1st, 2nd and 3rd place Drive and Co-Driver will receive X Games medals. There will be no prize purse or medals for 2WD entries.
...........[/I]
I'm sure McRae is capable of generating sponsorship on his own, that would make the trip worth his while.
Meantime: Go PAT![/QUOTE]
[I]The following is the official selection criteria document for the X Games 12 Rally:
X Games 12, Rally America, Rally Event
........
II.
[B]Invitees will receive no expense reimbursement, appearance fee or other compensation, other than the prize purse, from either ESPN or Rally America[/B]. The prize purse will be established by ESPN. 1st, 2nd and 3rd place Drive and Co-Driver will receive X Games medals. There will be no prize purse or medals for 2WD entries.
...........[/I]
I'm sure McRae is capable of generating sponsorship on his own, that would make the trip worth his while.
| sachilles | 05-18-2006 09:33 AM |
VTsportscar is preparing 12 cars for the event, or so I am told. Didn't have the chance to ask any questions. I hadn't heard that rally was coming to the xgames...so that was my big focus.
Wondering if they are going to set it up like the IROC events...identically prepared cars etc.
As I don't see why they would go to the trouble of preparing that many specificly for that event for just their own drivers. Although 12 doesn't seem like enough for the hole field with the above given numbers....(ok enough for them to start, but doesn't allow for mechanical failures during testing etc[ie a car gets wrecked or fails do to non competition or practice])
Wondering if they are going to set it up like the IROC events...identically prepared cars etc.
As I don't see why they would go to the trouble of preparing that many specificly for that event for just their own drivers. Although 12 doesn't seem like enough for the hole field with the above given numbers....(ok enough for them to start, but doesn't allow for mechanical failures during testing etc[ie a car gets wrecked or fails do to non competition or practice])
| cyRally | 05-18-2006 09:38 AM |
We are not preparing 12 cars for the X Games.
Look for a press release soon on what we are doing.
Chris Yandell
Marketing Manager
Vermont SportsCar
Look for a press release soon on what we are doing.
Chris Yandell
Marketing Manager
Vermont SportsCar
| sachilles | 05-18-2006 09:43 AM |
[QUOTE=cyRally]We are not preparing 12 cars for the X Games.
Look for a press release soon on what we are doing.
Chris Yandell
Marketing Manager
Vermont SportsCar[/QUOTE]
You would know (where is that embarassed smilie?)
C'mon give us a tid bit.
Look for a press release soon on what we are doing.
Chris Yandell
Marketing Manager
Vermont SportsCar[/QUOTE]
You would know (where is that embarassed smilie?)
C'mon give us a tid bit.
| DrBiggly | 05-18-2006 09:53 AM |
So when are the X Games to be held this year? I don't recall seeing a date (doesn't mean I haven't spaced out and missed it though.) :)
-Biggly
-Biggly
| fliz | 05-18-2006 09:55 AM |
[QUOTE=M. Hurst]I'm sure McRae is capable of generating sponsorship on his own, that would make the trip worth his while.[/QUOTE]
Definitely.
XBox and CodeMasters would be silly NOT to pay for his trip. Shouldn't there be a Colin McRae 2007 coming out this fall?
Definitely.
XBox and CodeMasters would be silly NOT to pay for his trip. Shouldn't there be a Colin McRae 2007 coming out this fall?
| sachilles | 05-18-2006 09:55 AM |
Maine Forrest rally was moved I believe. So I think its the same week as Maine Forrest traditionally is. However, that is from the same source as the 12 car thing.....so don't put too much stock in it. :lol:
| Doug Woods | 05-18-2006 09:56 AM |
Stop Posting Crap
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[QUOTE=sachilles]VTsportscar is preparing 12 cars for the event, or so I am told. Didn't have the chance to ask any questions. I hadn't heard that rally was coming to the xgames...so that was my big focus.
Wondering if they are going to set it up like the IROC events...identically prepared cars etc.
As I don't see why they would go to the trouble of preparing that many specificly for that event for just their own drivers. Although 12 doesn't seem like enough for the hole field with the above given numbers....(ok enough for them to start, but doesn't allow for mechanical failures during testing etc[ie a car gets wrecked or fails do to non competition or practice])[/QUOTE]
Where do people get this crap from?
Doug Woods
Wondering if they are going to set it up like the IROC events...identically prepared cars etc.
As I don't see why they would go to the trouble of preparing that many specificly for that event for just their own drivers. Although 12 doesn't seem like enough for the hole field with the above given numbers....(ok enough for them to start, but doesn't allow for mechanical failures during testing etc[ie a car gets wrecked or fails do to non competition or practice])[/QUOTE]
Where do people get this crap from?
Doug Woods
| fliz | 05-18-2006 09:57 AM |
[QUOTE=dch][ original article: [url]http://www.rally-america.com/story.php?article=80[/url] ]
[b]Rally Car Part of X Games 12 in Los Angeles August 3-6, 2006[/b]
[/QUOTE]
I [i]think[/i] it's the first week of August. ;)
[b]Rally Car Part of X Games 12 in Los Angeles August 3-6, 2006[/b]
[/QUOTE]
I [i]think[/i] it's the first week of August. ;)
| Sausage | 05-18-2006 10:01 AM |
man... I'm getting 2 tubes of superglue.
1 to glue my butt to the chair
1 to clue my face to the tv
1 to glue my butt to the chair
1 to clue my face to the tv
| sachilles | 05-18-2006 10:05 AM |
[QUOTE=Doug Woods]Where do people get this crap from?
Doug Woods[/QUOTE]
from what I thought was a decent source....which I will now not give up. :lol:
but a place just across town from VT sportscar, that does enjoy rallying.
Doug Woods[/QUOTE]
from what I thought was a decent source....which I will now not give up. :lol:
but a place just across town from VT sportscar, that does enjoy rallying.
| WOOKIE101010101 | 05-18-2006 10:44 AM |
[QUOTE=Chromer]Apply sufficient money in the form of an appearance fee, and nearly anything becomes possible...
Meantime: Go PAT![/QUOTE]
As the world churns.
A variety of European and high profile non rally US drivers solicited invites for the X games. Its a pretty big deal even to them...
Meantime: Go PAT![/QUOTE]
As the world churns.
A variety of European and high profile non rally US drivers solicited invites for the X games. Its a pretty big deal even to them...
| BHawk | 05-18-2006 06:41 PM |
Exposure is good at almost any price. This should help make rally more popular by bringing it to a new audience. This could work in our favor. Don't be too synical yet.
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