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F1, Round 8, 2006 British Grand Prix part 2

Johnny Butane 06-11-2006 05:01 PM

[QUOTE=OnTheGas]Toward the front, Michael did an amazing pass of Kimi for 2nd... [/QUOTE]

Well, I wouldnt go so far as to call it amazing. I would tend to give the credit to the pit crew and pit strategy since Schumi didnt pass Kimi on track in a wheel to wheel situation. Just good planning on Scuderia's part.

jeff
KAX 06-11-2006 05:04 PM

well schumacher did do an amazing outlap, which gave him that few extra meters ahead of kimi, and then he just pulled away. So it was really schumacher who pulled it off, pit crews can really only screw up, its expected that they are perfect so you cant give them the credit for doing what they were supposed to.
OnTheGas 06-11-2006 06:04 PM

Right... Michael set the fastest 2nd and 3rd sector times of the race on that out lap.
MattDell 06-11-2006 07:25 PM

[SIZE=6][COLOR=red][b]F1P6 Results[/b][/COLOR][/SIZE]
[size=3]for group [b]Impreza.net[/b]
for the [b]Silverstone Circuit[/b][/size]

[CODE] Rank Score F.Alonso M.Schumacher K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella F.Massa J.Montoya N.Heidfeld J.Villeneuve

10. 64 305 Matt Phelps M.Schumacher F.Alonso K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella F.Massa J.Button J.Montoya J.Villeneuve
32. 60 322 Matt Doyle F.Alonso M.Schumacher G.Fisichella F.Massa K.Raikkonen J.Montoya J.Button N.Heidfeld
82. 58 292 Paul Chavez M.Schumacher F.Alonso F.Massa G.Fisichella K.Raikkonen J.Montoya N.Heidfeld M.Webber
116. 56 320 Scott Ripley F.Alonso M.Schumacher K.Raikkonen F.Massa G.Fisichella J.Montoya J.Button R.Barrichello
339. 52 300 Michael Fiyak M.Schumacher F.Alonso K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella J.Montoya F.Massa R.Barrichello R.Schumacher
52 230 Jim Rider F.Alonso M.Schumacher G.Fisichella K.Raikkonen J.Montoya F.Massa J.Button R.Barrichello
548. 51 303 Matt Dell F.Alonso M.Schumacher K.Raikkonen J.Button J.Montoya F.Massa G.Fisichella R.Barrichello
704. 48 306 Lord Bass M.Schumacher F.Alonso K.Raikkonen F.Massa J.Button G.Fisichella J.Montoya R.Barrichello
48 303 Gary Lancaster F.Alonso M.Schumacher K.Raikkonen M.Webber J.Montoya J.Button R.Schumacher J.Villeneuve
48 243 Ken March M.Schumacher F.Alonso K.Raikkonen J.Montoya F.Massa G.Fisichella R.Barrichello J.Button
889. 47 266 Alex Hofstetter M.Schumacher F.Alonso G.Fisichella F.Massa R.Barrichello K.Raikkonen N.Rosberg J.Villeneuve
926. 46 288 Mika Hyytiainen F.Alonso K.Raikkonen M.Schumacher M.Webber J.Montoya F.Massa N.Rosberg G.Fisichella
46 270 Tommy Mcwilliams F.Alonso M.Schumacher J.Button K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella J.Montoya D.Coulthard R.Barrichello
46 276 David Pio F.Alonso M.Schumacher K.Raikkonen J.Montoya F.Massa J.Trulli R.Barrichello J.Button
1065. 45 245 Stuart Becktell F.Alonso K.Raikkonen M.Schumacher J.Montoya G.Fisichella R.Barrichello D.Coulthard F.Massa
45 270 Andrew Parente M.Schumacher F.Alonso K.Raikkonen N.Heidfeld J.Montoya G.Fisichella J.Button N.Rosberg
45 312 Andrew Sekellick F.Alonso M.Schumacher J.Montoya K.Raikkonen J.Button G.Fisichella F.Massa D.Coulthard
1227. 43 296 Jeff Preston F.Alonso K.Raikkonen J.Montoya M.Schumacher G.Fisichella R.Barrichello F.Massa J.Button
1274. 42 317 Rupert Berrington M.Schumacher K.Raikkonen F.Alonso G.Fisichella F.Massa J.Button D.Coulthard M.Webber
42 295 Johann Joo F.Alonso K.Raikkonen J.Montoya M.Schumacher G.Fisichella J.Button M.Webber F.Massa
42 307 Andy Zi F.Alonso M.Schumacher F.Massa J.Button K.Raikkonen J.Montoya M.Webber N.Rosberg
1647. 37 292 Steve Morris F.Alonso M.Schumacher J.Montoya F.Massa J.Button M.Webber R.Barrichello G.Fisichella
1685. 36 283 Ony Anglade K.Raikkonen F.Alonso M.Schumacher J.Montoya G.Fisichella J.Button J.Trulli M.Webber
36 278 Peter Lapin K.Raikkonen F.Alonso M.Schumacher J.Montoya G.Fisichella R.Barrichello J.Button M.Webber
1770. 34 300 William Truett M.Schumacher J.Montoya F.Alonso R.Barrichello K.Raikkonen J.Button F.Massa G.Fisichella
1815. 33 200 Sean Ford F.Massa K.Raikkonen M.Schumacher F.Alonso M.Webber R.Barrichello J.Montoya J.Button
1839. 32 244 Brian Sullivan F.Alonso K.Raikkonen M.Schumacher J.Montoya J.Button M.Webber N.Rosberg D.Coulthard
1892. 30 278 Chris Hartman F.Alonso M.Schumacher J.Montoya J.Button R.Schumacher D.Coulthard G.Fisichella M.Webber
1925. 28 171 Ken Addison K.Raikkonen J.Montoya M.Schumacher F.Alonso J.Button M.Webber G.Fisichella R.Schumacher
28 269 Jody Bertoli K.Raikkonen F.Alonso M.Schumacher J.Montoya D.Coulthard J.Button M.Webber N.Rosberg
1971. 17 206 David Ferguson J.Montoya F.Alonso J.Button M.Schumacher M.Webber N.Rosberg R.Barrichello S.Speed

[/CODE]

[SIZE=6][COLOR=red][b]F1P6 2006 Standings[/b][/COLOR][/SIZE]
[size=3]for group [b]Impreza.net[/b][/size]

[CODE] 123. 322 Matt Doyle
139. 320 Scott Ripley
173. 317 Rupert Berrington
278. 312 Andrew Sekellick
391. 307 Andy Zi
416. 306 Lord Bass
439. 305 Matt Phelps
498. 303 Matt Dell
303 Gary Lancaster
602. 300 Michael Fiyak
300 William Truett
741. 296 Jeff Preston
767. 295 Johann Joo
864. 292 Paul Chavez
292 Steve Morris
998. 288 Mika Hyytiainen
1132. 283 Ony Anglade
1259. 278 Chris Hartman
278 Peter Lapin
1309. 276 David Pio
1429. 270 Tommy Mcwilliams
270 Andrew Parente
1449. 269 Jody Bertoli
1498. 266 Alex Hofstetter
1720. 245 Stuart Becktell
1729. 244 Brian Sullivan
1736. 243 Ken March
1812. 230 Jim Rider
1893. 206 David Ferguson
1911. 200 Sean Ford
1973. 171 Ken Addison
2069. 119 Brad Erdman
2087. 113 James Alberts
2125. 96 Christopher Mcguire [/CODE]

I still can't catch up from my crappy San Marino picks! :furious:

-Matt
KAX 06-11-2006 07:30 PM

yeh i knew i was on drugs when i made my picks.
MattNJ2.8 06-12-2006 08:57 AM

O'Doyle Rules!!!
Chromer 06-12-2006 09:18 AM

[QUOTE=BROKENWRX]I can even watch this woeful crap that CBS is broadcasting, strait to F1.com for results. The Wiggles can do a better job with the commentating.[/QUOTE]

Oh just shut up and be happy it's on TV, and that you have to option of watching it today instead of waiting 4 days to download it a la WRC. The constant harping on the commentators gets REALLY old. We know they suck. We know you know you'd do a much better job. We can't change it. Try talking to someone who can.

That, or just don't watch CBS's coverage, and wait to download ITV's coverage.
Ferg 06-12-2006 03:44 PM

Post race story time!

[QUOTE]2006 British GP: facts & Stats
Sean Kelly analyses the results and the stats from the British Grand Prix, and he offers perspective on the performance of the drivers and teams

By Sean Kelly
autosport.com writer


It's starting to look like 2002 and 2004 all over again - except this time the car at the front is a Renault and not a Ferrari, and the driver is Fernando Alonso and not Michael Schumacher.

For the fifth time this season, the Spaniard emerged the race winner, and his victory never looked in doubt right from the get-go. After the early safety car period was over, Alonso set the fastest lap eight times in nine laps, and immediately following the first pitstops he was circulating in the 1:22.5 range while no other driver could get below 1:23.

Alonso's season has now officially reached record-breaking proportions. Only twice before had a driver began the season with eight top-two finishes in a row - Alain Prost in 1988 and Michael Schumacher in 1994. Both of those drivers failed to score in round eight of their respective seasons, and coincidentally, both of those races were at Silverstone.

Alonso now has 14 consecutive podiums, and while that seems quite a way behind Michael Schumacher's all-time record of 19 (set over the 2001-2002 seasons), nobody would bet against the Spaniard matching or breaking the German's record.

Wandering into more obscure territory, Alonso flirted with the "sweep" of winning a race from pole with the fastest lap, while leading from start-to-finish. In this era of refueling stops, it is rare that a driver will achieve all four in the same race. The last time it happened in F1 was when Schumacher (who else?) did it at the 2004 Hungarian Grand Prix, and in 13+ seasons of F1 racing, no Renault driver has ever done it.

Alonso's bid was ruined when Giancarlo Fisichella led briefly during the last round of stops, but by leading 59 laps, he surpassed Mario Andretti on the all-time laps led table. He has reached Andretti's figure of 799 despite only starting 77 races, compared to the American's 128. Having led every race this year, he has a shot at echoing Sir Jackie Stewart's 1969 campaign, the last time a driver led every Grand Prix in a single season. A two-time British GP winner, Stewart turned 67 on Sunday.

This entire Renault-based trivia happened in Renault's 200th race as a constructor, at the same circuit on which they made their F1 debut in 1977, with their pioneering V6 turbo engine. Michelin simultaneously made its first Grand Prix appearance as Renault's tyre supplier, and Sunday's win moves the French tyre to 99 victories, and a chance of becoming the second tyre manufacturer to score 100 F1 wins. Goodyear has been alone in achieving that since Niki Lauda won the tyre's 100th victory at Hockenheim, 29 years ago.

Behind the dominant Alonso/Renault squad, Michael Schumacher had a relatively quiet run to second, notwithstanding his wheel-to-wheel action with Kimi Raikkonen early on. The 248 F1 chassis is clearly the best car in a straight-line, having been quickest in the traps at the last four events. In the race, Schumacher and Massa both topped 294 km/h, 2 km/h quicker than anybody else.

Raikkonen has now finished on the podium at the last four British Grands Prix, but he will be disappointed that Schumacher leapfrogged him at the final pitstops, having scored his first front row start of the season.

With Fisichella in fourth, it means the top four in the championship finished in that order in Sunday's race. Giancarlo's weekend at Silverstone was better than his career record suggested he might have. He's never qualified in the top five in ten previous visits to the track, and fourth equaled his best British GP result.

In the minor points-finish positions, Juan Pablo Montoya kept up his record of scoring in every British Grand Prix he has contested, while the BMW-Sauber team kept up their similarly impressive numbers on this track. Both Sauber cars have finished every British GP since 1999, scoring seven points-finishes along the way.

Heidfeld ran as high as second, as he did in Australia (the only other race this year in which both their cars scored), and Villeneuve managed to hang on to eighth place, fending off a determined Nico Rosberg by just 0.7 seconds.

There were only four different constructors in the points, which has only happened once (Monaco 2003) since the points system began awarding points down to eighth place at the beginning of 2003.

Jarno Trulli was the big mover on the opening lap of the race, making up nine positions from his 22nd starting place. That was as good as the day would get for him, and he only moved up another two places all afternoon - one of which was when Jenson Button retired.

The Honda driver was the fourth retirement of the race when his car failed on lap 9, yet there would be no further retirements all afternoon. Like last year, there was only one mechanical-based DNF in the race, despite hotter than expected conditions, and the huge cornering forces.

Tonio Liuzzi did his standing within the Red Bull community no harm by beating Christian Klien both in qualifying and the race. He was the only driver to adopt a one-stop strategy in the race.

Tiago Monteiro clocked up yet another finish in 16th place - although he's hardly setting the world on fire with his pace. Coming into this weekend, he had completed 93% of the race laps in 2006 (tied for 5th-best), but he's only been on the lead lap for 32% of them (4th worst). Only teammate Christijan Albers and the Super Aguri drivers have a worse record. Both Aguri cars finished for only the second time, and the first time since Montagny replaced Yuji Ide.

Ralf Schumacher has only scored one point at Silverstone since 2001, and Toyota's nightmare season continues. They've scored fewer top eight finishes this year (three) than they did after eight races of their debut season of 2002 (four). The innocent Mark Webber was caught in the crossfire, and now he has five retirements from his last seven starts.[/QUOTE]
sirfrankwilliams 06-12-2006 04:07 PM

How was it that Kimi's car didn't let him down? :confused:
MattDell 06-12-2006 04:38 PM

What was the deal with Scott Speed? They said he was out because of accident damage, but all I saw was a banged up front spoiler. Why didn't they send him back out?


-Matt
TheRipler 06-12-2006 05:52 PM

[QUOTE=MattDell][SIZE=6][COLOR=red][b]F1P6 Results[/b][/COLOR][/SIZE]
[size=3]for group [b]Impreza.net[/b][/QUOTE]

2nd! :eek:

Sweet :D
Lafora 06-12-2006 06:29 PM

[QUOTE=OnTheGas]Toward the front, Michael did an amazing pass of Kimi for 2nd... [/QUOTE]

if you call leapfrogging an amazing pass,

what'd you call this move by lewis hamilton

[URL=http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bscap0020pr.jpg][IMG]http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3443/bscap0020pr.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

that was before they entered maggotts

[URL=http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bscap0038se.jpg][IMG]http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/1023/bscap0038se.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

out of maggotts.

if you think lewis squeezed piccione, he didn't. piquet was on the dirty side of the track and had no grip, hence the off.

last time i saw racing of that level of excitement was when hakkinen passed the shoe at spa.
bitterWRX 06-12-2006 06:45 PM

[QUOTE=Lafora]if you call leapfrogging an amazing pass,

[/QUOTE]

Agreed. Michael Schumacher's pass into 2nd position was merely nothing more than leap frogging with pit strategy. Granted Schumi had a fantastic outlap... it's wasn't... amazing.

Amazing is Raikonnen's pass on Fishicella in Suzuka 2005.
sirfrankwilliams 06-12-2006 06:52 PM

Equally amazing was when Michael went to pass Kimi.
That was pretty scarry stuff but they never actually touched and made it through without an accident. This same situation with two lesser drivers would have resulted in a huge crash.
JoD 06-12-2006 07:01 PM

[QUOTE=bitterWRX]Agreed. Michael Schumacher's pass into 2nd position was merely nothing more than leap frogging with pit strategy. Granted Schumi had a fantastic outlap... it's wasn't... amazing.

Amazing is Raikonnen's pass on Fishicella in Suzuka 2005.[/QUOTE]

HELLS YEAH!!! Damned thing made me cry I was so excited.

[SIZE=1]Yes - I am girl for crying. Yes - I have Kimi OCD issues.[/SIZE]
KAX 06-12-2006 07:11 PM

[QUOTE=JoD]HELLS YEAH!!! Damned thing made me cry I was so excited.

[SIZE=1]Yes - I am girl for crying. Yes - I have Kimi OCD issues.[/SIZE][/QUOTE]


haha, i was ecstatic too. When they started talking about fisi and kimi, i thought to myself "looks like fisi wants payback for suzuka," then moments later fisi's engineer said "get him, revenge for suzuka", i laughed and thought, not a chance :D
StuBeck 06-12-2006 08:53 PM

[QUOTE=JoD]HELLS YEAH!!! Damned thing made me cry I was so excited.

[SIZE=1]Yes - I am girl for crying. Yes - I have Kimi OCD issues.[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

:embarrased: I actually let out a tear or two with that pass, it was just so amazing and kept them in the constructors championship.
nKoan 06-12-2006 09:22 PM

[QUOTE=MattDell]What was the deal with Scott Speed? They said he was out because of accident damage, but all I saw was a banged up front spoiler. Why didn't they send him back out?


-Matt[/QUOTE]


I think they did send him out for a few laps. Or at least, they didn't pull him right away. He didn't officially retire till a few minutes before Button's engine failed.
artkevin 06-12-2006 10:05 PM

[QUOTE=Lafora]if you call leapfrogging an amazing pass,

what'd you call this move by lewis hamilton

[URL=http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bscap0020pr.jpg][IMG]http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3443/bscap0020pr.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

that was before they entered maggotts

[URL=http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bscap0038se.jpg][IMG]http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/1023/bscap0038se.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

out of maggotts.

if you think lewis squeezed piccione, he didn't. piquet was on the dirty side of the track and had no grip, hence the off.

last time i saw racing of that level of excitement was when hakkinen passed the shoe at spa.[/QUOTE]
I gotta give you a :banana: for that. Agreed on all points!
bitterWRX 06-13-2006 12:24 AM

[QUOTE=StuBeck]:embarrased: I actually let out a tear or two with that pass, it was just so amazing and kept them in the constructors championship.[/QUOTE]

Well if there were a proud moments for Kimi, that would be one of them. :banana:
OnTheGas 06-13-2006 01:15 AM

[QUOTE=MattDell]What was the deal with Scott Speed? ... Why didn't they send him back out?[/QUOTE]Speed damaged a track rod also. By the time they fixed it, the team decided that too many laps had passed to go back out.
bitterWRX 06-13-2006 01:56 AM

[QUOTE=OnTheGas]Speed damaged a track rod also. By the time they fixed it, the team decided that too many laps had passed to go back out.[/QUOTE]

They said that they were going to investigate the accident? What was the verdict? Does anyone know?
Waxiboy 06-13-2006 03:30 PM

[QUOTE=Lafora]
last time i saw racing of that level of excitement was when hakkinen passed the shoe at spa.[/QUOTE]

+1 greatest F1 pass ever!!!
OnTheGas 06-13-2006 11:58 PM

Scott Speed vs. Race Stewards
[QUOTE=bitterWRX]They said that they were going to investigate the accident? What was the verdict? Does anyone know?[/QUOTE]I can't find the official notification anywhere, but it was mentioned in a post race [URL=http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=221212&FS=F1]interview w/Scott Speed[/URL] that the stewards found that nobody was at fault.

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