| artkevin | 03-30-2006 08:12 PM |
I went to my 1st F1 party last race in the ATL. It was strange to watch a race with more then 1 other person.
JoD is having a shin-dig in Columbus.
JoD is having a shin-dig in Columbus.
| Ferg | 03-30-2006 08:18 PM |
And so it begins.
[QUOTE]Davidson fastest in practice 1 - Australia
By Tim Collings Friday, March 31st 2006, 01:05 GMT
Honda test driver Anthony Davidson topped the times in opening practice for Sunday's Australian Grand Prix, the British driver finishing ahead of Dutchman Robert Doornbos in a Red Bull Ferrari.
On a cool, cloudy and windy morning at Albert Park, and in front of a sparse crowd in the grandstands, Davidson dominated the first hour-long session, which ran without major incident.
Few of the leading drivers took much part until the final minutes, as expected, but there were moments of concern for a handful of men who took unscheduled excursions off the circuit.
The first of these came after 14 minutes when Neel Jani, in a Scuderia Toro Rosso car, went off at turn 9, his car coming to a halt in the gravel trap.
Twenty minutes later, Robert Kubica's BMW-Sauber appeared to blow an engine, and he parked his car close to turn 1 before walking back to the pits.
The Polish driver was at that time threatening to produce a notably fast lap in the session.
There were few other note-worthy incidents then apart from the installation laps run by some of the leading drivers - and an off-track run across the grass from Canadian Jacques Villeneuve in his BMW Sauber - until the final minutes.
Then, in quick succession, Ralf Schumacher in his Toyota, Kimi Raikkonen in his McLaren-Mercedes and Doornbos, in his Red Bull, went off at turns 6, 6 and 3 respectively, but without other mishap.
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Davidson Honda (M) 1:28.259 26
2. Doornbos Red Bull-Ferrari (M) 1:28.559 + 0.300 19
3. Villeneuve BMW-Sauber (M) 1:28.595 + 0.336 16
4. Raikkonen McLaren-Mercedes (M) 1:28.713 + 0.454 5
5. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:29.025 + 0.766 7
6. M.Schumacher Ferrari (B) 1:29.041 + 0.782 5
7. R.Schumacher Toyota (B) 1:29.411 + 1.152 5
8. Wurz Williams-Cosworth (B) 1:29.461 + 1.202 19
9. Kubica BMW-Sauber (M) 1:29.576 + 1.317 13
10. Klien Red Bull-Ferrari (M) 1:29.601 + 1.342 7
11. Coulthard Red Bull-Ferrari (M) 1:29.676 + 1.417 9
12. Speed Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M) 1:31.017 + 2.758 8
13. Albers MF1-Toyota (B) 1:31.039 + 2.780 9
14. Monteiro MF1-Toyota (B) 1:31.812 + 3.553 10
15. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:34.036 + 5.777 9
16. Ide Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:36.684 + 8.425 19
17. Winkelhock MF1-Toyota (B) 1:36.859 + 8.600 17
18. Jani Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M) 1:40.818 +12.559 4
19. Alonso Renault (M) No time 2
20. Fisichella Renault (M) No time 2
21. Trulli Toyota (B) No time 2
22. Montoya McLaren-Mercedes (M) No time 1
23. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (M) No time 1
24. Barrichello Honda (M) No time 1
25. Liuzzi Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M) No time 2
26. Webber Williams-Cosworth (B) No time
27. Rosberg Williams-Cosworth (B) No time
28. Button Honda (M) No time
All timing unofficial[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Davidson fastest in practice 1 - Australia
By Tim Collings Friday, March 31st 2006, 01:05 GMT
Honda test driver Anthony Davidson topped the times in opening practice for Sunday's Australian Grand Prix, the British driver finishing ahead of Dutchman Robert Doornbos in a Red Bull Ferrari.
On a cool, cloudy and windy morning at Albert Park, and in front of a sparse crowd in the grandstands, Davidson dominated the first hour-long session, which ran without major incident.
Few of the leading drivers took much part until the final minutes, as expected, but there were moments of concern for a handful of men who took unscheduled excursions off the circuit.
The first of these came after 14 minutes when Neel Jani, in a Scuderia Toro Rosso car, went off at turn 9, his car coming to a halt in the gravel trap.
Twenty minutes later, Robert Kubica's BMW-Sauber appeared to blow an engine, and he parked his car close to turn 1 before walking back to the pits.
The Polish driver was at that time threatening to produce a notably fast lap in the session.
There were few other note-worthy incidents then apart from the installation laps run by some of the leading drivers - and an off-track run across the grass from Canadian Jacques Villeneuve in his BMW Sauber - until the final minutes.
Then, in quick succession, Ralf Schumacher in his Toyota, Kimi Raikkonen in his McLaren-Mercedes and Doornbos, in his Red Bull, went off at turns 6, 6 and 3 respectively, but without other mishap.
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Davidson Honda (M) 1:28.259 26
2. Doornbos Red Bull-Ferrari (M) 1:28.559 + 0.300 19
3. Villeneuve BMW-Sauber (M) 1:28.595 + 0.336 16
4. Raikkonen McLaren-Mercedes (M) 1:28.713 + 0.454 5
5. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:29.025 + 0.766 7
6. M.Schumacher Ferrari (B) 1:29.041 + 0.782 5
7. R.Schumacher Toyota (B) 1:29.411 + 1.152 5
8. Wurz Williams-Cosworth (B) 1:29.461 + 1.202 19
9. Kubica BMW-Sauber (M) 1:29.576 + 1.317 13
10. Klien Red Bull-Ferrari (M) 1:29.601 + 1.342 7
11. Coulthard Red Bull-Ferrari (M) 1:29.676 + 1.417 9
12. Speed Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M) 1:31.017 + 2.758 8
13. Albers MF1-Toyota (B) 1:31.039 + 2.780 9
14. Monteiro MF1-Toyota (B) 1:31.812 + 3.553 10
15. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:34.036 + 5.777 9
16. Ide Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:36.684 + 8.425 19
17. Winkelhock MF1-Toyota (B) 1:36.859 + 8.600 17
18. Jani Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M) 1:40.818 +12.559 4
19. Alonso Renault (M) No time 2
20. Fisichella Renault (M) No time 2
21. Trulli Toyota (B) No time 2
22. Montoya McLaren-Mercedes (M) No time 1
23. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (M) No time 1
24. Barrichello Honda (M) No time 1
25. Liuzzi Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M) No time 2
26. Webber Williams-Cosworth (B) No time
27. Rosberg Williams-Cosworth (B) No time
28. Button Honda (M) No time
All timing unofficial[/QUOTE]
| JoD | 03-30-2006 08:29 PM |
[QUOTE=XenoWolf]F1 parties? Hook'a brotha up![/QUOTE]
Hey, if you (or any other F1 fans in here) want to drive to Columbus, you are welcome to party and watch with us! Fosters all around!
If anyone is interested, just PM me, and I'll give ya directions. :banana:
(Note: Anyone offended by huge amounts of Kimi Raikkonen art/paraphenilia will probably want to stay away.)
Hey, if you (or any other F1 fans in here) want to drive to Columbus, you are welcome to party and watch with us! Fosters all around!
If anyone is interested, just PM me, and I'll give ya directions. :banana:
(Note: Anyone offended by huge amounts of Kimi Raikkonen art/paraphenilia will probably want to stay away.)
| Ferg | 03-30-2006 11:07 PM |
Friday Practice #2
[QUOTE]Davidson remains on top in Australia
By Timothy Collings Friday, March 31st 2006, 04:05 GMT
Anthony Davidson followed up his quickest lap in morning practice by topping the times in the afternoon on the opening day at the Australian Grand Prix.
The British driver, who clocked his best lap late in the session, finished up fastest ahead of Alexander Wurz in a Williams and Robert Kubica in a BMW Sauber.
Fellow-Briton Jenson Button was fourth in his Honda ahead of defending champion Fernando Alonso in his Renault, with seven-times champion Michael Schumacher sixth for Ferrari.
If anything, the weather in the afternoon was cooler and cloudier than it had been in the morning, but with an air temperature of 22 degrees Celsius and a track temperature of 25 degrees, it remained comfortable.
The early part of the session saw several drivers running off and recovering to return to the circuit, notably Yuji Ide in his Super Aguri, who went off at turns one and nine, the Clark and Brabham chicanes respectively.
He was followed by Briton David Coulthard in his Red Bull Ferrari, Vitantionio Liuzzi in a Toro Rosso and then Felipe Massa, in his Ferrari.
The crowd - the grandstands looked three-quarters full - enjoyed seeing not just some action, but also big name drivers out on the track.
Jacques Villeneuve, who had done so much to entertain the spectators in the morning, did the same in his BMW Sauber in the afternoon, running off and recovering at the first chicane.
On track, it was defending champion Alonso who led the way in his Renault, the Spaniard clocking an early fastest time and staying on top with a lap in 1:27.443.
The closest in pursuit were Michael Schumacher in his Ferrari and soon afterwards Button in his Honda, who clocked a lap in 1:27.213 to take over at the top after half an hour.
Eight minutes later, Button was outpaced by Williams third driver Alexander Wurz, who delivered a lap in 1:26.832 before Liuzzi lost control of his Toro Rosso Cosworth at the Walte Curve, having braked late and gone across a kerb.
The Italian's car crashed heavily into the trackside barrier, but he was not injured.
Wurz's time stood unchallenged for some time until Robert Kubica showed his pace, and both his and his BMW's potential, by moving up to second.
With five minutes remaining, Davidson followed up his fastest time in the morning session with another quick lap to take over at the top of the time sheets in one minute and 26.822 seconds in his Honda.
Alonso then did a late lap, during which he went close to losing control briefly at turn 12, and Christijan Albers, in his Midland Toyota, went off heavily at turn five.
Button, pushing in the final seconds, skidded off and on to the grass, but regained control to complete his lap without disturbing the order.
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Davidson Honda (M) 1:26.822 28
2. Wurz Williams-Cosworth (B) 1:26.832 + 0.010 27
3. Kubica BMW-Sauber (M) 1:27.200 + 0.378 25
4. Button Honda (M) 1:27.213 + 0.391 12
5. Alonso Renault (M) 1:27.443 + 0.621 14
6. M.Schumacher Ferrari (B) 1:27.658 + 0.836 16
7. Raikkonen McLaren-Mercedes (M) 1:27.773 + 0.951 16
8. Barrichello Honda (M) 1:28.075 + 1.253 20
9. Montoya McLaren-Mercedes (M) 1:28.200 + 1.378 15
10. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:28.227 + 1.405 17
11. Fisichella Renault (M) 1:28.280 + 1.458 11
12. Villeneuve BMW-Sauber (M) 1:28.440 + 1.618 22
13. Coulthard Red Bull-Ferrari (M) 1:28.531 + 1.709 18
14. Webber Williams-Cosworth (B) 1:28.860 + 2.038 10
15. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (M) 1:29.053 + 2.231 5
16. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:29.138 + 2.316 20
17. Speed Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M) 1:29.196 + 2.374 18
18. R.Schumacher Toyota (B) 1:29.379 + 2.557 16
19. Monteiro MF1-Toyota (B) 1:29.713 + 2.891 21
20. Doornbos Red Bull-Ferrari (M) 1:29.876 + 3.054 32
21. Klien Red Bull-Ferrari (M) 1:29.879 + 3.057 9
22. Rosberg Williams-Cosworth (B) 1:29.933 + 3.111 11
23. Jani Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M) 1:30.686 + 3.864 26
24. Liuzzi Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M) 1:30.734 + 3.912 14
25. Albers MF1-Toyota (B) 1:30.830 + 4.008 18
26. Winkelhock MF1-Toyota (B) 1:31.260 + 4.438 25
27. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:32.556 + 5.734 27
28. Ide Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:34.224 + 7.402 22
All timing unofficial
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Davidson remains on top in Australia
By Timothy Collings Friday, March 31st 2006, 04:05 GMT
Anthony Davidson followed up his quickest lap in morning practice by topping the times in the afternoon on the opening day at the Australian Grand Prix.
The British driver, who clocked his best lap late in the session, finished up fastest ahead of Alexander Wurz in a Williams and Robert Kubica in a BMW Sauber.
Fellow-Briton Jenson Button was fourth in his Honda ahead of defending champion Fernando Alonso in his Renault, with seven-times champion Michael Schumacher sixth for Ferrari.
If anything, the weather in the afternoon was cooler and cloudier than it had been in the morning, but with an air temperature of 22 degrees Celsius and a track temperature of 25 degrees, it remained comfortable.
The early part of the session saw several drivers running off and recovering to return to the circuit, notably Yuji Ide in his Super Aguri, who went off at turns one and nine, the Clark and Brabham chicanes respectively.
He was followed by Briton David Coulthard in his Red Bull Ferrari, Vitantionio Liuzzi in a Toro Rosso and then Felipe Massa, in his Ferrari.
The crowd - the grandstands looked three-quarters full - enjoyed seeing not just some action, but also big name drivers out on the track.
Jacques Villeneuve, who had done so much to entertain the spectators in the morning, did the same in his BMW Sauber in the afternoon, running off and recovering at the first chicane.
On track, it was defending champion Alonso who led the way in his Renault, the Spaniard clocking an early fastest time and staying on top with a lap in 1:27.443.
The closest in pursuit were Michael Schumacher in his Ferrari and soon afterwards Button in his Honda, who clocked a lap in 1:27.213 to take over at the top after half an hour.
Eight minutes later, Button was outpaced by Williams third driver Alexander Wurz, who delivered a lap in 1:26.832 before Liuzzi lost control of his Toro Rosso Cosworth at the Walte Curve, having braked late and gone across a kerb.
The Italian's car crashed heavily into the trackside barrier, but he was not injured.
Wurz's time stood unchallenged for some time until Robert Kubica showed his pace, and both his and his BMW's potential, by moving up to second.
With five minutes remaining, Davidson followed up his fastest time in the morning session with another quick lap to take over at the top of the time sheets in one minute and 26.822 seconds in his Honda.
Alonso then did a late lap, during which he went close to losing control briefly at turn 12, and Christijan Albers, in his Midland Toyota, went off heavily at turn five.
Button, pushing in the final seconds, skidded off and on to the grass, but regained control to complete his lap without disturbing the order.
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Davidson Honda (M) 1:26.822 28
2. Wurz Williams-Cosworth (B) 1:26.832 + 0.010 27
3. Kubica BMW-Sauber (M) 1:27.200 + 0.378 25
4. Button Honda (M) 1:27.213 + 0.391 12
5. Alonso Renault (M) 1:27.443 + 0.621 14
6. M.Schumacher Ferrari (B) 1:27.658 + 0.836 16
7. Raikkonen McLaren-Mercedes (M) 1:27.773 + 0.951 16
8. Barrichello Honda (M) 1:28.075 + 1.253 20
9. Montoya McLaren-Mercedes (M) 1:28.200 + 1.378 15
10. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:28.227 + 1.405 17
11. Fisichella Renault (M) 1:28.280 + 1.458 11
12. Villeneuve BMW-Sauber (M) 1:28.440 + 1.618 22
13. Coulthard Red Bull-Ferrari (M) 1:28.531 + 1.709 18
14. Webber Williams-Cosworth (B) 1:28.860 + 2.038 10
15. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (M) 1:29.053 + 2.231 5
16. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:29.138 + 2.316 20
17. Speed Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M) 1:29.196 + 2.374 18
18. R.Schumacher Toyota (B) 1:29.379 + 2.557 16
19. Monteiro MF1-Toyota (B) 1:29.713 + 2.891 21
20. Doornbos Red Bull-Ferrari (M) 1:29.876 + 3.054 32
21. Klien Red Bull-Ferrari (M) 1:29.879 + 3.057 9
22. Rosberg Williams-Cosworth (B) 1:29.933 + 3.111 11
23. Jani Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M) 1:30.686 + 3.864 26
24. Liuzzi Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M) 1:30.734 + 3.912 14
25. Albers MF1-Toyota (B) 1:30.830 + 4.008 18
26. Winkelhock MF1-Toyota (B) 1:31.260 + 4.438 25
27. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:32.556 + 5.734 27
28. Ide Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:34.224 + 7.402 22
All timing unofficial
[/QUOTE]
| bitterWRX | 03-31-2006 03:39 AM |
LOST: Anthony Davidson's F1 Contract
:furious:
His constant fast laps gets me super curious as to how he would fare in an actual race. Someone needs to give that man a seat.
:furious:
His constant fast laps gets me super curious as to how he would fare in an actual race. Someone needs to give that man a seat.
| XenoWolf | 03-31-2006 05:44 AM |
[QUOTE=JoD]Hey, if you (or any other F1 fans in here) want to drive to Columbus, you are welcome to party and watch with us! Fosters all around![/QUOTE]
Like I'm going to drive 8 hours to hang out with a bunch of people from Ohio. :lol:
[SIZE=1]I kid! I kid![/SIZE]
Like I'm going to drive 8 hours to hang out with a bunch of people from Ohio. :lol:
[SIZE=1]I kid! I kid![/SIZE]
| StuBeck | 03-31-2006 07:58 AM |
[QUOTE=bitterWRX]LOST: Anthony Davidson's F1 Contract
:furious:
His constant fast laps gets me super curious as to how he would fare in an actual race. Someone needs to give that man a seat.[/QUOTE]
The problem is Honda keeps on giving him contracts for testing. The three races he has run in have not been very good either, 3 non-finishes.
:furious:
His constant fast laps gets me super curious as to how he would fare in an actual race. Someone needs to give that man a seat.[/QUOTE]
The problem is Honda keeps on giving him contracts for testing. The three races he has run in have not been very good either, 3 non-finishes.
| JoD | 03-31-2006 08:08 AM |
[QUOTE=XenoWolf]Like I'm going to drive 8 hours to hang out with a bunch of people from Ohio. :lol:
[SIZE=1]I kid! I kid![/SIZE][/QUOTE]
Hey - you said you were looking for a party. I was just being nice enough to offer...
I grew up in PA, so please don't lump me in as a true Ohioan....
[SIZE=1]I kid! I kid![/SIZE][/QUOTE]
Hey - you said you were looking for a party. I was just being nice enough to offer...
I grew up in PA, so please don't lump me in as a true Ohioan....
| meebs | 03-31-2006 09:50 AM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck]The problem is Honda keeps on giving him contracts for testing. The three races he has run in have not been very good either, 3 non-finishes.[/QUOTE]
Let's not forget where Hill and Montoya came from... :p
Let's not forget where Hill and Montoya came from... :p
| KAX | 03-31-2006 01:21 PM |
why is quali on SDD?? Barrett-Jackson is not that important!!! :mad: :mad:
| Ferg | 03-31-2006 01:28 PM |
[QUOTE=meebs]Let's not forget where Hill and Montoya came from... :p[/QUOTE]
Are you talking about test driver's that became race drivers? I don't remember Montoya being anyone's permanent test driver, at least not like Davidson or Wurz, were it's their [i]only[/i] gig. IIRC JPM went right from winning the F3000 championship (against Heidfeld) to winning the CART title with Ganassi in the JPM/Zanardi swappy-deal with Williams.
For test drivers made good, you need look no father than Mika Hakkinen. :)
Are you talking about test driver's that became race drivers? I don't remember Montoya being anyone's permanent test driver, at least not like Davidson or Wurz, were it's their [i]only[/i] gig. IIRC JPM went right from winning the F3000 championship (against Heidfeld) to winning the CART title with Ganassi in the JPM/Zanardi swappy-deal with Williams.
For test drivers made good, you need look no father than Mika Hakkinen. :)
| Ferg | 03-31-2006 01:31 PM |
[QUOTE=KAX]why is quali on SDD?? Barrett-Jackson is not that important!!! :mad: :mad:[/QUOTE]
Two hours delayed....
9:00pm Pacific
*&^*%!!!
Anyone posting spoilers will get a swift kick in their nethers.
Two hours delayed....
9:00pm Pacific
*&^*%!!!
Anyone posting spoilers will get a swift kick in their nethers.
| Chiketkd | 03-31-2006 01:51 PM |
[QUOTE=Ferg]Two hours delayed....
9:00pm Pacific[/QUOTE]
I guess I'll be up late tonight. Need to see how the Renaults & Ferraris qualify... :devil:
9:00pm Pacific[/QUOTE]
I guess I'll be up late tonight. Need to see how the Renaults & Ferraris qualify... :devil:
| StuBeck | 03-31-2006 03:03 PM |
[QUOTE=Ferg]Are you talking about test driver's that became race drivers? I don't remember Montoya being anyone's permanent test driver, at least not like Davidson or Wurz, were it's their [i]only[/i] gig. IIRC JPM went right from winning the F3000 championship (against Heidfeld) to winning the CART title with Ganassi in the JPM/Zanardi swappy-deal with Williams.
For test drivers made good, you need look no father than Mika Hakkinen. :)[/QUOTE]
Montoya was Williams test driver in 98, went to Gannassi on loan and came back in 01. I honestly don't now if he did any testing in between.
I don't doubt that Ant could become a good test driver, but I think its sorta like Wurz, he's been out of racing so much that he might have lost some of his skill (look at de la Rosa's fighting at Bahrain last year, he had the speed but messed up the passes a few times.) I think Ant should have run GP2 to keep his skills up...but concentrating on F1 test drive at the same time could mean he'd suck in either and lose any drive he would have had. He's also getting somewhat old too, if he doesn't get a ride next year I don't htink he will, which will suck but he made his own decisions to not drive for other teams.
For test drivers made good, you need look no father than Mika Hakkinen. :)[/QUOTE]
Montoya was Williams test driver in 98, went to Gannassi on loan and came back in 01. I honestly don't now if he did any testing in between.
I don't doubt that Ant could become a good test driver, but I think its sorta like Wurz, he's been out of racing so much that he might have lost some of his skill (look at de la Rosa's fighting at Bahrain last year, he had the speed but messed up the passes a few times.) I think Ant should have run GP2 to keep his skills up...but concentrating on F1 test drive at the same time could mean he'd suck in either and lose any drive he would have had. He's also getting somewhat old too, if he doesn't get a ride next year I don't htink he will, which will suck but he made his own decisions to not drive for other teams.
| meebs | 03-31-2006 03:28 PM |
[QUOTE=Ferg]Are you talking about test driver's that became race drivers? I don't remember Montoya being anyone's permanent test driver, at least not like Davidson or Wurz, were it's their [i]only[/i] gig. IIRC JPM went right from winning the F3000 championship (against Heidfeld) to winning the CART title with Ganassi in the JPM/Zanardi swappy-deal with Williams.
For test drivers made good, you need look no father than Mika Hakkinen. :)[/QUOTE]
I remember him being the test driver for Williams for some reason, for at least a year...?
For test drivers made good, you need look no father than Mika Hakkinen. :)[/QUOTE]
I remember him being the test driver for Williams for some reason, for at least a year...?
| Ferg | 03-31-2006 03:59 PM |
Right right right...upon further research to get the stats straight, Montoya was one of their (Williams) test drivers in 1997 and 1998 while he was racing in the F3000 series. Like many of test drivers at the time, it wasn't the same sort of gig that Davidson, Wurz, and the rest of the current crop of test drivers have. Montoya wasn't Williams "dedicated" test driver, just one of many.
After he won the F3000 title in 1998 he was loaned out to Ganassi as part of the Montoya/Zanardi deal. JPM promptly wins the CART title in his first year (1999), sticks around for one more season of racing in the US with Ganassi, winning the 2000 Indy 500 as a rookie (the one and only time he's driven a IRL spec chassis...) but failing to defend his CART title against Gil de Ferran's Penske, but still winning three races (all on ovals oddly enough) then returns to Europe with Williams for the 2001 season.
At no time during his spell in America (as far as I can tell) did he test or drive a Grand Prix car.
After he won the F3000 title in 1998 he was loaned out to Ganassi as part of the Montoya/Zanardi deal. JPM promptly wins the CART title in his first year (1999), sticks around for one more season of racing in the US with Ganassi, winning the 2000 Indy 500 as a rookie (the one and only time he's driven a IRL spec chassis...) but failing to defend his CART title against Gil de Ferran's Penske, but still winning three races (all on ovals oddly enough) then returns to Europe with Williams for the 2001 season.
At no time during his spell in America (as far as I can tell) did he test or drive a Grand Prix car.
| KAX | 03-31-2006 04:11 PM |
[QUOTE=Ferg]At no time during his spell in America (as far as I can tell) did he test or drive a Grand Prix car.[/QUOTE]
that would be fairly tiring if he did.
that would be fairly tiring if he did.
| Ferg | 03-31-2006 04:23 PM |
Michael "I'm going to live in Nasreth Pennsylvania while driving for McLaren in Europe..." Andretti knows this all to well.
| Ferg | 03-31-2006 06:52 PM |
Heads up for Saturday practice.
:D
[QUOTE]
[b]Friday, March 31st[/b]
Practice #3, 4:00pm Live Timing feed @ [url=http://www.formula1.com]->Formula1.com<-[/URL]
Qualifying, 9:00pm on Speed TV
[b]Saturday, April 1st[/b]
[b]Race, 7:30pm on Speed TV[/b]
**all times Pacific**
[/QUOTE]
:D
[QUOTE]
[b]Friday, March 31st[/b]
Practice #3, 4:00pm Live Timing feed @ [url=http://www.formula1.com]->Formula1.com<-[/URL]
Qualifying, 9:00pm on Speed TV
[b]Saturday, April 1st[/b]
[b]Race, 7:30pm on Speed TV[/b]
**all times Pacific**
[/QUOTE]
| Ferg | 03-31-2006 06:54 PM |
Looks like wet qualifying...
[QUOTE]Expected rain makes qualifying a challenge
By Jonathan Noble Friday, March 31st 2006, 23:45 GMT
Formula One drivers and teams are bracing themselves for a more fraught than usual qualifying session in Melbourne this afternoon, with rain hitting the Albert Park circuit.
Overnight showers look set to continue all day, and this almost certainly means a more difficult challenge in the new knockout qualifying format.
"I think the showers are in for afternoon, so the track is certainly going to go through different stages," said Williams driver Mark Webber.
"It is going to be difficult to judge when to get your time in, but at least qualifying is not like with the old system, when you had an allocated slot. You are still going to be in the lap of the Gods though."
Honda Racing technical director Geoff Willis believed that the limited time in each knockout session in qualifying would put more onus on the drivers to perform and get their tyre choice right.
"The weather is going to make things quite difficult," said Willis. "If it is a fully wet session, then there is the risk of someone throwing it off, especially in the first session, so drivers are going to need to get out there and do the laps.
"But you are going to need to balance out getting the lap in and not using up too much engine mileage.
"There is definitely a bigger risk of making a mistake than there will be in the dry, and I think the drivers are going to have a bigger say on things.
"They are going to have to put the laps in and choose the right moment to go on to dry tyres. It is going to be quite busy."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Expected rain makes qualifying a challenge
By Jonathan Noble Friday, March 31st 2006, 23:45 GMT
Formula One drivers and teams are bracing themselves for a more fraught than usual qualifying session in Melbourne this afternoon, with rain hitting the Albert Park circuit.
Overnight showers look set to continue all day, and this almost certainly means a more difficult challenge in the new knockout qualifying format.
"I think the showers are in for afternoon, so the track is certainly going to go through different stages," said Williams driver Mark Webber.
"It is going to be difficult to judge when to get your time in, but at least qualifying is not like with the old system, when you had an allocated slot. You are still going to be in the lap of the Gods though."
Honda Racing technical director Geoff Willis believed that the limited time in each knockout session in qualifying would put more onus on the drivers to perform and get their tyre choice right.
"The weather is going to make things quite difficult," said Willis. "If it is a fully wet session, then there is the risk of someone throwing it off, especially in the first session, so drivers are going to need to get out there and do the laps.
"But you are going to need to balance out getting the lap in and not using up too much engine mileage.
"There is definitely a bigger risk of making a mistake than there will be in the dry, and I think the drivers are going to have a bigger say on things.
"They are going to have to put the laps in and choose the right moment to go on to dry tyres. It is going to be quite busy."[/QUOTE]
| StuBeck | 03-31-2006 07:29 PM |
Cool, that hsould make it very interesting
| StuBeck | 03-31-2006 07:31 PM |
Bruno Senna won an F3 race at Melbourne.
| Dussander | 03-31-2006 07:38 PM |
Practice 3 live on the net. It is wet.
Michelin looking strong in the wet.
Michelin looking strong in the wet.
| Ferg | 03-31-2006 08:08 PM |
Practice #3
[QUOTE]BMW set the pace in practice 3 - Australia
By Tim Collings Saturday, April 1st 2006, 01:06 GMT
Nick Heidfeld and Jacques Villeneuve demonstrated the potential of the BMW-Sauber team on Saturday morning when they topped the times in final practice for the Australian Grand Prix.
Heidfeld recorded a fastest lap of 1:35.335 in the final stages of a wet-and-dry session run in changing, windy and unpredictable conditions at Albert Park.
His teammate Villeneuve was second fastest, with a time of 1:36.281.
This left the two BMW drivers ahead of Tonio Liuzzi, who was third fastest for the Toro Rosso Cosworth team, ahead of Italian compatriot Giancarlo Fisichella in the leading Renault.
Ralf Schumacher, in a Toyota, was fifth ahead of the two Ferraris - Brazilian Felipe Massa taking sixth place ahead of teammate Michael Schumacher.
Defending champion Fernando Alonso was 17th, a full four seconds slower than the two BMWs who made the best of a drying circuit in the final minutes.
The hour-long session was run on a wet circuit, and oil was cleared from four of the opening corners as the cars began lapping.
It was little wonder that there was a long sequence of incidents with virtually everyone spinning off and regaining control all over the track.
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (M) 1:35.335 10
2. Villeneuve BMW-Sauber (M) 1:36.281 + 0.946 16
3. Liuzzi Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M) 1:36.373 + 1.038 10
4. Fisichella Renault (M) 1:36.414 + 1.079 13
5. R.Schumacher Toyota (B) 1:36.445 + 1.110 10
6. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:36.506 + 1.171 11
7. M.Schumacher Ferrari (B) 1:37.332 + 1.997 10
8. Barrichello Honda (M) 1:37.481 + 2.146 15
9. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:37.492 + 2.157 10
10. Speed Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M) 1:37.852 + 2.517 11
11. Klien Red Bull-Ferrari (M) 1:37.947 + 2.612 12
12. Webber Williams-Cosworth (B) 1:38.036 + 2.701 7
13. Button Honda (M) 1:38.505 + 3.170 11
14. Coulthard Red Bull-Ferrari (M) 1:38.683 + 3.348 15
15. Rosberg Williams-Cosworth (B) 1:39.401 + 4.066 11
16. Monteiro MF1-Toyota (B) 1:39.515 + 4.180 7
17. Alonso Renault (M) 1:39.654 + 4.319 11
18. Ide Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:40.261 + 4.926 18
19. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:41.448 + 6.113 5
20. Montoya McLaren-Mercedes (M) 1:44.350 + 9.015 3
21. Raikkonen McLaren-Mercedes (M) 1:48.284 + 2.949 3
22. Albers MF1-Toyota (B) No time 3
All timing unofficial[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]BMW set the pace in practice 3 - Australia
By Tim Collings Saturday, April 1st 2006, 01:06 GMT
Nick Heidfeld and Jacques Villeneuve demonstrated the potential of the BMW-Sauber team on Saturday morning when they topped the times in final practice for the Australian Grand Prix.
Heidfeld recorded a fastest lap of 1:35.335 in the final stages of a wet-and-dry session run in changing, windy and unpredictable conditions at Albert Park.
His teammate Villeneuve was second fastest, with a time of 1:36.281.
This left the two BMW drivers ahead of Tonio Liuzzi, who was third fastest for the Toro Rosso Cosworth team, ahead of Italian compatriot Giancarlo Fisichella in the leading Renault.
Ralf Schumacher, in a Toyota, was fifth ahead of the two Ferraris - Brazilian Felipe Massa taking sixth place ahead of teammate Michael Schumacher.
Defending champion Fernando Alonso was 17th, a full four seconds slower than the two BMWs who made the best of a drying circuit in the final minutes.
The hour-long session was run on a wet circuit, and oil was cleared from four of the opening corners as the cars began lapping.
It was little wonder that there was a long sequence of incidents with virtually everyone spinning off and regaining control all over the track.
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (M) 1:35.335 10
2. Villeneuve BMW-Sauber (M) 1:36.281 + 0.946 16
3. Liuzzi Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M) 1:36.373 + 1.038 10
4. Fisichella Renault (M) 1:36.414 + 1.079 13
5. R.Schumacher Toyota (B) 1:36.445 + 1.110 10
6. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:36.506 + 1.171 11
7. M.Schumacher Ferrari (B) 1:37.332 + 1.997 10
8. Barrichello Honda (M) 1:37.481 + 2.146 15
9. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:37.492 + 2.157 10
10. Speed Toro Rosso-Cosworth (M) 1:37.852 + 2.517 11
11. Klien Red Bull-Ferrari (M) 1:37.947 + 2.612 12
12. Webber Williams-Cosworth (B) 1:38.036 + 2.701 7
13. Button Honda (M) 1:38.505 + 3.170 11
14. Coulthard Red Bull-Ferrari (M) 1:38.683 + 3.348 15
15. Rosberg Williams-Cosworth (B) 1:39.401 + 4.066 11
16. Monteiro MF1-Toyota (B) 1:39.515 + 4.180 7
17. Alonso Renault (M) 1:39.654 + 4.319 11
18. Ide Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:40.261 + 4.926 18
19. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:41.448 + 6.113 5
20. Montoya McLaren-Mercedes (M) 1:44.350 + 9.015 3
21. Raikkonen McLaren-Mercedes (M) 1:48.284 + 2.949 3
22. Albers MF1-Toyota (B) No time 3
All timing unofficial[/QUOTE]
| Chiketkd | 03-31-2006 08:10 PM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck]Cool, that hsould make it very interesting[/QUOTE]
Agreed. This is where the truly skilled and experienced driver's should shine! :cool:
Agreed. This is where the truly skilled and experienced driver's should shine! :cool:
| KAX | 04-01-2006 12:15 AM |
looks clear to me. if it did rain though, and at least it wont F-up the grid like it did last year on the single lap (two day) qualifying
| djviper | 04-01-2006 12:25 AM |
have to say it, GET IN THERE JENSON
| finnRex | 04-01-2006 02:18 AM |
Well, by first corner, Jenson will be fighting Kimi for 3rd position. The Renaults will have another fantastic start.
Mika
Mika
| nick735 | 04-01-2006 02:23 AM |
[QUOTE=finnRex]Well, by first corner, Jenson will be fighting Kimi for 3rd position. The Renaults will have another fantastic start.
Mika[/QUOTE]
+1 those renaults jump ahead like they have launch control
Mika[/QUOTE]
+1 those renaults jump ahead like they have launch control
| finnRex | 04-01-2006 02:36 AM |
[QUOTE=nick735]+1 those renaults jump ahead like they have launch control[/QUOTE]
Indeed. VERY questionable. Has Flavio been pulling one on us for over a year? :conspiracy theory music ques in: .
Mika
Indeed. VERY questionable. Has Flavio been pulling one on us for over a year? :conspiracy theory music ques in: .
Mika
| sspicollo8 | 04-01-2006 02:41 AM |
Anyone notice that they were playing the song "who can it be now" at the beginning of qualifying as they were speculating about who would get pole? Don't remember speed channel ever doing anything like that last year and it sorta caught me off guard. :lol: Anyways, glad to see button up there on top... maybe he'll do some good with it.
| Wr4wrX | 04-01-2006 02:59 AM |
[QUOTE=finnRex]Indeed. VERY questionable. Has Flavio been pulling one on us for over a year? :conspiracy theory music ques in: .[/QUOTE]
I didn't follow F1 until a couple years ago, but if I'm correct, Benetton Renault (now Renault) was once found using illegal launch software....
I didn't follow F1 until a couple years ago, but if I'm correct, Benetton Renault (now Renault) was once found using illegal launch software....
| Ferg | 04-01-2006 10:23 AM |
Starting grid
[QUOTE]
1 12 Jenson Button Honda 1:25.229
2 2 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:25.635
3 1 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:25.778
4 3 Kimi R�ikk�nen McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.822
5 4 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.976
6 7 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:26.612
7 9 Mark Webber Williams-Cosworth 1:26.937
8 16 Nick Heidfeld Sauber-BMW 1:27.579
9 17 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-BMW 1:29.239 **
10 8 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:26.327
11 5 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:26.718
12 14 David Coulthard RBR-Ferrari 1:27.023
13 20 Vitantonio Liuzzi STR-Cosworth 1:27.219
14 15 Christian Klien RBR-Ferrari 1:27.591
15 10 Nico Rosberg Williams-Cosworth 1:29.422
16 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:28.868
17 11 Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:29.943
18 19 Christijan Albers MF1-Toyota 1:30.226
19 21 Scott Speed STR-Cosworth 1:30.426
20 18 Tiago Monteiro MF1-Toyota 1:30.709
21 22 Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1:32.279
22 23 Yuji Ide Super Aguri-Honda 1:36.164
** = 10 place strating penalty for engine change
[/QUOTE]
Fuel allocations...
[QUOTE]Qualifying fuel allocations - Australia
Saturday, April 1st 2006, 08:40 GMT
Following qualifying, the FIA released the number of laps each driver completed in the final qualifying session, and consequently the amount of fuel each driver is allowed to add to his car's fuel tanks before the start of the race:
Driver Laps Fuel (kg)
Jenson Button 14 laps 41
Giancarlo Fisichella 14 laps 41
Fernando Alonso 15 laps 44
Kimi Raikkonen 14 laps 41
Juan Pablo Montoya 14 laps 41
Ralf Schumacher 14 laps 41
Mark Webber 12 laps 35
Nick Heidfeld 14 laps 41
Jacques Villeneuve 5 laps 15
Jarno Trulli 18 *
* This figure was provided by the team to the FIA prior to the start of the third period of qualifying. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]
1 12 Jenson Button Honda 1:25.229
2 2 Giancarlo Fisichella Renault 1:25.635
3 1 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:25.778
4 3 Kimi R�ikk�nen McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.822
5 4 Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.976
6 7 Ralf Schumacher Toyota 1:26.612
7 9 Mark Webber Williams-Cosworth 1:26.937
8 16 Nick Heidfeld Sauber-BMW 1:27.579
9 17 Jacques Villeneuve Sauber-BMW 1:29.239 **
10 8 Jarno Trulli Toyota 1:26.327
11 5 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:26.718
12 14 David Coulthard RBR-Ferrari 1:27.023
13 20 Vitantonio Liuzzi STR-Cosworth 1:27.219
14 15 Christian Klien RBR-Ferrari 1:27.591
15 10 Nico Rosberg Williams-Cosworth 1:29.422
16 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:28.868
17 11 Rubens Barrichello Honda 1:29.943
18 19 Christijan Albers MF1-Toyota 1:30.226
19 21 Scott Speed STR-Cosworth 1:30.426
20 18 Tiago Monteiro MF1-Toyota 1:30.709
21 22 Takuma Sato Super Aguri-Honda 1:32.279
22 23 Yuji Ide Super Aguri-Honda 1:36.164
** = 10 place strating penalty for engine change
[/QUOTE]
Fuel allocations...
[QUOTE]Qualifying fuel allocations - Australia
Saturday, April 1st 2006, 08:40 GMT
Following qualifying, the FIA released the number of laps each driver completed in the final qualifying session, and consequently the amount of fuel each driver is allowed to add to his car's fuel tanks before the start of the race:
Driver Laps Fuel (kg)
Jenson Button 14 laps 41
Giancarlo Fisichella 14 laps 41
Fernando Alonso 15 laps 44
Kimi Raikkonen 14 laps 41
Juan Pablo Montoya 14 laps 41
Ralf Schumacher 14 laps 41
Mark Webber 12 laps 35
Nick Heidfeld 14 laps 41
Jacques Villeneuve 5 laps 15
Jarno Trulli 18 *
* This figure was provided by the team to the FIA prior to the start of the third period of qualifying. [/QUOTE]
| Bonzo | 04-01-2006 10:31 AM |
I was hoping for rain.
The pressure's on Jenson now.
The pressure's on Jenson now.
| KAX | 04-01-2006 10:33 AM |
i wouldnt be surprised about the launch control thing. If you guys read the pre-race conference, someone asked about it. Fisichella just said "its a secret"
| StuBeck | 04-01-2006 10:42 AM |
They're still allowed to have TC and even before TC and LC BAR basically had launch control which is why they were so good at starts. The cars are still allowed to have certain controls to help the start.
I'm surprised there isn't any sort of penelty for Ferrari leaving tools on the car and then throwing it on the track, I would think that would be frowned upon but I guess not.
I'm surprised there isn't any sort of penelty for Ferrari leaving tools on the car and then throwing it on the track, I would think that would be frowned upon but I guess not.
| Bonzo | 04-01-2006 11:35 AM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck]
I'm surprised there isn't any sort of penelty for Ferrari leaving tools on the car and then throwing it on the track, I would think that would be frowned upon but I guess not.[/QUOTE]
Yikes, I saw that. Major, major boo-boo on the red team. :eek: :lol:
I'm surprised there isn't any sort of penelty for Ferrari leaving tools on the car and then throwing it on the track, I would think that would be frowned upon but I guess not.[/QUOTE]
Yikes, I saw that. Major, major boo-boo on the red team. :eek: :lol:
| AndyRoo | 04-01-2006 12:44 PM |
i want to see fisi beat out alonso!
| finnRex | 04-01-2006 01:05 PM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck]They're still allowed to have TC and even before TC and LC BAR basically had launch control which is why they were so good at starts. The cars are still allowed to have certain controls to help the start.
I'm surprised there isn't any sort of penelty for Ferrari leaving tools on the car and then throwing it on the track, I would think that would be frowned upon but I guess not.[/QUOTE]
There are tow sets of rules. The rules that Ferrari go by, and the rules that everyone else goes by. In the words of Cartman, Ferrari can "club baby seals, they do what they want".
Mika
I'm surprised there isn't any sort of penelty for Ferrari leaving tools on the car and then throwing it on the track, I would think that would be frowned upon but I guess not.[/QUOTE]
There are tow sets of rules. The rules that Ferrari go by, and the rules that everyone else goes by. In the words of Cartman, Ferrari can "club baby seals, they do what they want".
Mika
| artkevin | 04-01-2006 01:10 PM |
[QUOTE=finnRex]Indeed. VERY questionable. Has Flavio been pulling one on us for over a year? :conspiracy theory music ques in: .
Mika[/QUOTE]
Last year I remember reading and hearing about the Renaults having a heavy rear weight bias. This helps them get away from a dead stop and can explain their pace. I think most other teams try to get a 50/50 which is great for balance during the race but not the best for starts.
Mika[/QUOTE]
Last year I remember reading and hearing about the Renaults having a heavy rear weight bias. This helps them get away from a dead stop and can explain their pace. I think most other teams try to get a 50/50 which is great for balance during the race but not the best for starts.
| finnRex | 04-01-2006 01:15 PM |
[QUOTE=artkevin]Last year I remeber reading and hearing about the Renaults having a heavy rear weight basis. This helps them get away from a dead stop and can explain their pace. I think most other teams try to get a 50/50 which is great for balance during the race but not the best for starts.[/QUOTE]
That would make sense. But the thing is, wouldn't their rear tires wear quickly?
Mika
That would make sense. But the thing is, wouldn't their rear tires wear quickly?
Mika
| Ferg | 04-01-2006 01:19 PM |
[QUOTE=finnRex]That would make sense. But the thing is, wouldn't their rear tires wear quickly?[/QUOTE]
When they get their setup and tire choice wrong it did. Think Monaco last year.
When they get their setup and tire choice wrong it did. Think Monaco last year.
| finnRex | 04-01-2006 01:30 PM |
True, true. Good call.
Mika
Mika
| StuBeck | 04-01-2006 01:32 PM |
They probably run harder tyres then other teams too.
| jpsimon | 04-01-2006 02:06 PM |
Kimi, Alonso, Schumi....
1, 2, 3....
1, 2, 3....
| bitterWRX | 04-01-2006 03:52 PM |
[QUOTE=jpsimon]Kimi, Alonso, Schumi....
1, 2, 3....[/QUOTE]
That sounds ideal, but I think I have my doubts.
1, 2, 3....[/QUOTE]
That sounds ideal, but I think I have my doubts.
| KAX | 04-01-2006 03:53 PM |
[QUOTE=bitterWRX]That sounds ideal, but I think I have my doubts.[/QUOTE]
yeh, thats a pretty big dream.
yeh, thats a pretty big dream.
| nick735 | 04-01-2006 03:58 PM |
[QUOTE=jpsimon]Kimi, Alonso, Schumi....
1, 2, 3....[/QUOTE]
ALonso coming in second wouldnt close the gap between him and kimi enough. My ideal outcome would be to have alonso not score any points. :D
If kimi cant pull off the win, I hope button can. Hes loooooong overdue for a win.
1, 2, 3....[/QUOTE]
ALonso coming in second wouldnt close the gap between him and kimi enough. My ideal outcome would be to have alonso not score any points. :D
If kimi cant pull off the win, I hope button can. Hes loooooong overdue for a win.
| JoD | 04-01-2006 04:42 PM |
[QUOTE=nick735]ALonso coming in second wouldnt close the gap between him and kimi enough. My ideal outcome would be to have alonso not score any points. :D [/QUOTE]
Ahh... A man after my own heart.... ;)
Kimi FTW!!!
Ahh... A man after my own heart.... ;)
Kimi FTW!!!
| bal00 | 04-01-2006 05:14 PM |
[QUOTE=bitterWRX]LOST: Anthony Davidson's F1 Contract
:furious:
His constant fast laps gets me super curious as to how he would fare in an actual race. Someone needs to give that man a seat.[/QUOTE]
You have to keep in mind that the test drivers don't have to care about engine durability, so they usually get a good bit more power to play with. The teams probably know what the lap times are worth.
:furious:
His constant fast laps gets me super curious as to how he would fare in an actual race. Someone needs to give that man a seat.[/QUOTE]
You have to keep in mind that the test drivers don't have to care about engine durability, so they usually get a good bit more power to play with. The teams probably know what the lap times are worth.
| artkevin | 04-01-2006 05:48 PM |
I got to vote for Ant to get Ide's seat. Or better yet, how about we just get rid of Ide. He's four effing seconds off of Sato's pace and he's off the road every other lap. I honestly hope there is something about his car that is different from Sato's that we don't know of to explain such a huge gap. Seems like a nice guy but man.
| dorrington | 04-01-2006 06:18 PM |
[QUOTE=artkevin]I got to vote for Ant to get Ide's seat. Or better yet, how about we just get rid of Ide. He's four effing seconds off of Sato's pace and he's off the road every other lap. I honestly hope there is something about his car that is different from Sato's that we don't know of to explain such a huge gap. Seems like a nice guy but man.[/QUOTE]
I agree. Such a deficit behind the pace is just dangerous...not even considering the fact that he's all over the road.
I was excited to see a new team in F1, but Super Aguri is embarrassing themselves...they just don't belong there unless they actually put forth a real effort. At least Minardi had some heart. They might have been slow, but not dangerous, and nobody questioned what they did for the sport. Does anybody know why they didn't use the Minardi's from last year? Surely that would have to be better than these old arrows.
I agree. Such a deficit behind the pace is just dangerous...not even considering the fact that he's all over the road.
I was excited to see a new team in F1, but Super Aguri is embarrassing themselves...they just don't belong there unless they actually put forth a real effort. At least Minardi had some heart. They might have been slow, but not dangerous, and nobody questioned what they did for the sport. Does anybody know why they didn't use the Minardi's from last year? Surely that would have to be better than these old arrows.
| REX8 | 04-01-2006 06:29 PM |
[QUOTE=jpsimon]Kimi, Alonso, Schumi....
1, 2, 3....[/QUOTE]
Monty was the fastest all qualifying and SHOULD have been on the pole (damn last sector)
I'm throwing him in the top 3 for sure...
Schumi doesn't have this race...
And I'd be fine with Super Aguri if Ide would dial in some more front brake bias and turn some slow, consistent laps...
1, 2, 3....[/QUOTE]
Monty was the fastest all qualifying and SHOULD have been on the pole (damn last sector)
I'm throwing him in the top 3 for sure...
Schumi doesn't have this race...
And I'd be fine with Super Aguri if Ide would dial in some more front brake bias and turn some slow, consistent laps...
| bitterWRX | 04-01-2006 07:17 PM |
[QUOTE=dorrington]I agree. Such a deficit behind the pace is just dangerous...not even considering the fact that he's all over the road.
I was excited to see a new team in F1, but Super Aguri is embarrassing themselves...they just don't belong there unless they actually put forth a real effort. At least Minardi had some heart. They might have been slow, but not dangerous, and nobody questioned what they did for the sport. Does anybody know why they didn't use the Minardi's from last year? Surely that would have to be better than these old arrows.[/QUOTE]
The Minardi's weren't for sale?
Although I agree that they are an embarassment, compared to the rest of the teams on the grid, I think it's unfair to say that Super Aguri aren't putting out an effort. They didn't beg FIA to let them into the 2006 F1GP so they can throw it all away. Super Aguri is doing well for having hardly done any tests and development. For a team with inexperience in the F1 world, mistakes are bound to happen. I think this season is going to be a steep learning curve and they'll be back next season with stronger competition... and maybe even better drivers.
And show me where Sato and Ide are all over the road. As a rookie team, they probably know they are slow. Moving off the line for other cars is probably their incentive (heh). There has yet to be an incident with the Super Aguri cars so clarify for me, the "danger."
I was excited to see a new team in F1, but Super Aguri is embarrassing themselves...they just don't belong there unless they actually put forth a real effort. At least Minardi had some heart. They might have been slow, but not dangerous, and nobody questioned what they did for the sport. Does anybody know why they didn't use the Minardi's from last year? Surely that would have to be better than these old arrows.[/QUOTE]
The Minardi's weren't for sale?
Although I agree that they are an embarassment, compared to the rest of the teams on the grid, I think it's unfair to say that Super Aguri aren't putting out an effort. They didn't beg FIA to let them into the 2006 F1GP so they can throw it all away. Super Aguri is doing well for having hardly done any tests and development. For a team with inexperience in the F1 world, mistakes are bound to happen. I think this season is going to be a steep learning curve and they'll be back next season with stronger competition... and maybe even better drivers.
And show me where Sato and Ide are all over the road. As a rookie team, they probably know they are slow. Moving off the line for other cars is probably their incentive (heh). There has yet to be an incident with the Super Aguri cars so clarify for me, the "danger."
| KAX | 04-01-2006 07:27 PM |
[QUOTE=bitterWRX]And show me where Sato and Ide are all over the road. As a rookie team, they probably know they are slow. Moving off the line for other cars is probably their incentive (heh). There has yet to be an incident with the Super Aguri cars so clarify for me, the "danger."[/QUOTE]
did you even watch qualifying? everytime the camera goes onto Ide, its because he goes off the road. Sato is fine, he stays on, he gets in the way (reason barrichello didnt make it past the first session) but at least he doesnt bring grass and gravel onto the track at every corner. Ide is just awful, i know they could have found a better driver, if they werent so bent on being all japanese. that obviously doesnt make for a great team.
i still want to see what their car does when it comes out. If they can at least fight it out with Midland, i think their car would be a huge success. Its taken Toyota this long to get competitive and theyve had a huge budget, we should give Aguri the same amount of time. But Ide has to go.
did you even watch qualifying? everytime the camera goes onto Ide, its because he goes off the road. Sato is fine, he stays on, he gets in the way (reason barrichello didnt make it past the first session) but at least he doesnt bring grass and gravel onto the track at every corner. Ide is just awful, i know they could have found a better driver, if they werent so bent on being all japanese. that obviously doesnt make for a great team.
i still want to see what their car does when it comes out. If they can at least fight it out with Midland, i think their car would be a huge success. Its taken Toyota this long to get competitive and theyve had a huge budget, we should give Aguri the same amount of time. But Ide has to go.
| StuBeck | 04-01-2006 07:35 PM |
I like Super Best Friends (as Matchett calls them, I was laughing outloud when he said that the first time) are doing great for running a 4 year old chassis with a few options. Ide was the one who was in the way during Barrichello's run, but that was Honda's fault for not getting a lap in earlier. Ide has just as much of a reason to be on track, and he probably was on a fast lap at that time.
Ide is doing badly this weekend because he can't get temp in the tires...which causes more problems because he isn't fast so he doesn't have the temp, so theres no way for him to get temp. I don't think he is going to stay around long to be honest if he stays 4 seconds off the pace.
Once SA gets their new car in it will show how fast they really are. Right now Ide is running a car which was a show car for 3 years. Being on the track is impressive enough but only two seconds off is great.
The Minardi's aren't for sale. PS is keeping them around since he still owns the Asiatech engines so he can run them if he wants.
Ide is doing badly this weekend because he can't get temp in the tires...which causes more problems because he isn't fast so he doesn't have the temp, so theres no way for him to get temp. I don't think he is going to stay around long to be honest if he stays 4 seconds off the pace.
Once SA gets their new car in it will show how fast they really are. Right now Ide is running a car which was a show car for 3 years. Being on the track is impressive enough but only two seconds off is great.
The Minardi's aren't for sale. PS is keeping them around since he still owns the Asiatech engines so he can run them if he wants.
| Ferg | 04-01-2006 09:11 PM |
I heard Matchett mention that Ide's Super Aguri was one of the show cars used for promotion and display gigs at the Melbourne airport...four or five years ago.
Something I ran across last week...
[QUOTE]Sato's fastest lap at Sepang (1m40.199s) was 0.068sec quicker than that set in 2002 by the Arrows A23 on which the Super Aguri is based.[/QUOTE]
Something I ran across last week...
[QUOTE]Sato's fastest lap at Sepang (1m40.199s) was 0.068sec quicker than that set in 2002 by the Arrows A23 on which the Super Aguri is based.[/QUOTE]
| bitterWRX | 04-01-2006 09:50 PM |
Noted:That Ide is a horrible driver. Sorry, i didn't get a chance to watch qualifying this weekend. And I thought I read somewhere that Massa blocked Barrichello. I stand corrected. I don't know what's wrong with him... I'm pretty sure he doesn't act like this in Formula Nippon.
But yeah, I still stick by that Super Aguri will be a great team in the future. It's too soon to write off the entire team which has Ide and a 3 year old chassis.
But yeah, I still stick by that Super Aguri will be a great team in the future. It's too soon to write off the entire team which has Ide and a 3 year old chassis.
| finnRex | 04-01-2006 09:59 PM |
[QUOTE=artkevin]I got to vote for Ant to get Ide's seat. Or better yet, how about we just get rid of Ide. He's four effing seconds off of Sato's pace and he's off the road every other lap. I honestly hope there is something about his car that is different from Sato's that we don't know of to explain such a huge gap. Seems like a nice guy but man.[/QUOTE]
I will agree with you 110% on about Ide. FINALLY something you and I can agree on :p .
As far as Sato goes, he needs to go too. But he never will with Japanese backing.
Mika
I will agree with you 110% on about Ide. FINALLY something you and I can agree on :p .
As far as Sato goes, he needs to go too. But he never will with Japanese backing.
Mika
| 04RCSTI | 04-01-2006 09:59 PM |
half hour left, I hope its Kimi, Alonso and Button, but I know Alonso has a damn good chance to win, its just that I dont want him to. I see Schumi getting 4th or 5th. Fisichella and Montoya are going to be up there. Hope to see Rossberg up in pole as well. Button is going to have a major head start woth pole, but I doubt he can hold it off from Alonso...very doubtfull. Super Aguri will both DQ, and Barrichello will probably be 8th or something. Thats my prediction..
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