| bitterWRX | 04-01-2006 10:02 PM |
[QUOTE=finnRex]
As far as Sato goes, he needs to go too. But he never will with Japanese backing.
[/QUOTE]
Sato is a good driver (2004 season). I think a lot of his mistakes were out of desperate measures (ala Suzuka 05, where he runs into Trulli). I think once he gets a good car he could settle down into, he'll give good results.
As far as Sato goes, he needs to go too. But he never will with Japanese backing.
[/QUOTE]
Sato is a good driver (2004 season). I think a lot of his mistakes were out of desperate measures (ala Suzuka 05, where he runs into Trulli). I think once he gets a good car he could settle down into, he'll give good results.
| finnRex | 04-01-2006 10:14 PM |
I'll be the first to admit that I'm hard on Sato, but as far as I'm concerned(I'm a nobody though), he hasn't done jack squat to earn an F1 seat. He came up the ranks from what I understand and performed exceptionally well, but his F1 career hasn't been terrific. In '04, he ended up with 34 points. That is pretty decent, and that was with a darn good Honda too. One that kept up with Ferrari and McLaren.
Mika
Mika
| meebs | 04-01-2006 10:15 PM |
Alonso, Montoya, Schumi
Kimi, DNF :(
Kimi, DNF :(
| KAX | 04-01-2006 10:16 PM |
I think its going to be Fisichella, Alonso, and Kimi after corner one (granted Klien doesnt somehow take Kimi out from 14th position). And then its just going to be pit strategy and traffic conditions to determine the winner.
| varmint007 | 04-01-2006 10:31 PM |
and here we go....
must stay awake!
must stay awake!
| KAX | 04-01-2006 11:05 PM |
holy crap, i was just thinking the shot before it showed montoya, "i wonder if anyone has spun on the formation lap"
| bitterWRX | 04-01-2006 11:21 PM |
[QUOTE=finnRex]I'll be the first to admit that I'm hard on Sato, but as far as I'm concerned(I'm a nobody though), he hasn't done jack squat to earn an F1 seat. He came up the ranks from what I understand and performed exceptionally well, but his F1 career hasn't been terrific. In '04, he ended up with 34 points. That is pretty decent, and that was with a darn good Honda too. One that kept up with Ferrari and McLaren.
Mika[/QUOTE]
Everyone is hard on Sato. :) He hasn't done anything spectacular at all. But I think he still has talent.
[QUOTE=KAX]holy crap, i was just thinking the shot before it showed montoya, "i wonder if anyone has spun on the formation lap"[/QUOTE]
Dudeeeee... it must be sooooo embarassing for him... and for McLaren so pull such a noob move.
Mika[/QUOTE]
Everyone is hard on Sato. :) He hasn't done anything spectacular at all. But I think he still has talent.
[QUOTE=KAX]holy crap, i was just thinking the shot before it showed montoya, "i wonder if anyone has spun on the formation lap"[/QUOTE]
Dudeeeee... it must be sooooo embarassing for him... and for McLaren so pull such a noob move.
| John__Gotti | 04-01-2006 11:38 PM |
[QUOTE=KAX]holy crap, i was just thinking the shot before it showed montoya, "i wonder if anyone has spun on the formation lap"[/QUOTE]
It's not hard to spin it on formation because the tires are cold and have no grip. I think it was last season that someone actually put it in the wall after they lost it on the formation putting heat in the tires, fish tailing. Can't remeber who it was. I actually watch CART quite a bit and when at the Edmonton race last year, I believe it was Vasser, hit there "push to pass" button while behind the pace car and spun it from forth and went to the back with like 10 laps left. Now that is a noob move.
It's not hard to spin it on formation because the tires are cold and have no grip. I think it was last season that someone actually put it in the wall after they lost it on the formation putting heat in the tires, fish tailing. Can't remeber who it was. I actually watch CART quite a bit and when at the Edmonton race last year, I believe it was Vasser, hit there "push to pass" button while behind the pace car and spun it from forth and went to the back with like 10 laps left. Now that is a noob move.
| spooln04 | 04-02-2006 12:08 AM |
Well both ferrari's are out now....
| Patrick L | 04-02-2006 12:14 AM |
Luzzi is out, another safety car.
Crazy race......du du du....another one bites the dust....
That curbing out of the of the final turn onto the front straight. That is screwed up. FIA should get an ear full about that one. :furious:
I though JPM was going to do the same thing MS did when he dropped out.
Crazy race......du du du....another one bites the dust....
That curbing out of the of the final turn onto the front straight. That is screwed up. FIA should get an ear full about that one. :furious:
I though JPM was going to do the same thing MS did when he dropped out.
| tdm74 | 04-02-2006 12:47 AM |
go alonso :banana: :banana:
| John__Gotti | 04-02-2006 12:47 AM |
What a crazy race, can't remember the last time so many retirements happened. And Button, 2nd to last corner his engine gives way what luck. Speed scores points holdong off DC. I think this has been the best race this season by far. Nice to also see both the BMW/Sauber cars finish and in the points no less even with Villi's 10 spot penalty for an engine change. Alonso still seems unstoppable on his way to consecutive world titles. Big finish for Toyota aswell, I believe this is there best finish ever.
| meebs | 04-02-2006 01:09 AM |
[QUOTE=Top_Dog]
That curbing out of the of the final turn onto the front straight. That is screwed up. FIA should get an ear full about that one. :furious:
I though JPM was going to do the same thing MS did when he dropped out.[/QUOTE]
I don't think that bump in the kerb is the FIA's problem. It should be up to the drivers to keep it off the kerb... you would think the engineers would be saying, "don't hit it!" :D
Alonso's "pac-man" wave, has got to go, I don't know why it bugs me. :alien:
That curbing out of the of the final turn onto the front straight. That is screwed up. FIA should get an ear full about that one. :furious:
I though JPM was going to do the same thing MS did when he dropped out.[/QUOTE]
I don't think that bump in the kerb is the FIA's problem. It should be up to the drivers to keep it off the kerb... you would think the engineers would be saying, "don't hit it!" :D
Alonso's "pac-man" wave, has got to go, I don't know why it bugs me. :alien:
| Smart_alek | 04-02-2006 01:23 AM |
[QUOTE=John__Gotti]It's not hard to spin it on formation because the tires are cold and have no grip. I think it was last season that someone actually put it in the wall after they lost it on the formation putting heat in the tires, fish tailing. Can't remeber who it was. I actually watch CART quite a bit and when at the Edmonton race last year, I believe it was Vasser, hit there "push to pass" button while behind the pace car and spun it from forth and went to the back with like 10 laps left. Now that is a noob move.[/QUOTE]
I think it could have been Justin Wilson who spun out in Edmonton, could be Vasser though.
I think it could have been Justin Wilson who spun out in Edmonton, could be Vasser though.
| Smart_alek | 04-02-2006 01:26 AM |
Exciting race though, Button must just feel absolutely gutted. His tires just could not get heat into them on the restarts. I must say, it seems as if every race just keeps getting better and better.
| KAX | 04-02-2006 01:29 AM |
[QUOTE=John__Gotti]What a crazy race, can't remember the last time so many retirements happened. [/QUOTE]
brazil 2003 is the one i think of. only 8 finishers.
[QUOTE=Smart_alek]I must say, it seems as if every race just keeps getting better and better.[/QUOTE]
with the exception of malaysia, id say your right. but then thats only 2 races.
brazil 2003 is the one i think of. only 8 finishers.
[QUOTE=Smart_alek]I must say, it seems as if every race just keeps getting better and better.[/QUOTE]
with the exception of malaysia, id say your right. but then thats only 2 races.
| StuBeck | 04-02-2006 01:32 AM |
That was a great race, hopefully Speed will get press now that he's done something, he's been beatting Liuzzi the entire year.
Ide having the fastest lap of the race was hilarious too.
Ide having the fastest lap of the race was hilarious too.
| bitterWRX | 04-02-2006 04:15 AM |
I bet Button could have rolled to the finish. But I think it was better for him that his engine blew. Even if he made this one, he would have had an engine about to blow. So in a way, it's a good thing.
Congrats to Alonso again. Who continues to dominate so hardcore.
Congrats to Alonso again. Who continues to dominate so hardcore.
| ptclaus98 | 04-02-2006 09:49 AM |
[QUOTE=KAX]holy crap, i was just thinking the shot before it showed montoya, "i wonder if anyone has spun on the formation lap"[/QUOTE]
Wait, he did WHAT!?
Wait, he did WHAT!?
| ptclaus98 | 04-02-2006 09:50 AM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck]That was a great race, hopefully Speed will get press now that he's done something, he's been beatting Liuzzi the entire year.
[B]Ide having the fastest lap [/B] of the race was hilarious too.[/QUOTE]
O RRY?
:lol:
[B]Ide having the fastest lap [/B] of the race was hilarious too.[/QUOTE]
O RRY?
:lol:
| finnRex | 04-02-2006 10:11 AM |
[QUOTE=ptclaus98]Wait, he did WHAT!?[/QUOTE]
Yup, he spun on the formation lap. The start got aborted because his butt was still sideways, so they did another formation lap. He managed to weave his way back to 5th(his starting position). And then he wonders why Kimi gets preferential treatment.
Mika
Yup, he spun on the formation lap. The start got aborted because his butt was still sideways, so they did another formation lap. He managed to weave his way back to 5th(his starting position). And then he wonders why Kimi gets preferential treatment.
Mika
| KGreb | 04-02-2006 11:00 AM |
No points for Speed. Demoted to 9th and fined. Apparently he passed under yellow and had an altercation with DC after the race :(
| StuBeck | 04-02-2006 11:32 AM |
[QUOTE=ptclaus98]O RRY?
:lol:[/QUOTE]
Yep, first lap of the race he had the fastest lap.
I'm pissed Speed lost his point, they should have done osmething during the event and I'm surprised they didn't look at Ralfy.
:lol:[/QUOTE]
Yep, first lap of the race he had the fastest lap.
I'm pissed Speed lost his point, they should have done osmething during the event and I'm surprised they didn't look at Ralfy.
| sirfrankwilliams | 04-02-2006 12:07 PM |
[QUOTE=KAX]i wonder if anyone has spun on the formation lap"[/QUOTE]
in 1991 or so, Prost spun off the track on the formation lap while it was raining.
in 1991 or so, Prost spun off the track on the formation lap while it was raining.
| ArtGecko | 04-02-2006 12:45 PM |
Interesting race, but I dozed off several times, so I'll watch again today. (Not because it was a snoozer, but because it started at 11PM after a couple of drinks with dinner :D) )
I liked my picks, but they didn't pan out well... I got 8 points each for FA, KR, and Fisi. That's it. Not going to climb up the results list with those points! (And DC ended up exactly where I *usually* put him...but not this week.)
Steve
I liked my picks, but they didn't pan out well... I got 8 points each for FA, KR, and Fisi. That's it. Not going to climb up the results list with those points! (And DC ended up exactly where I *usually* put him...but not this week.)
Steve
| Bonzo | 04-02-2006 01:57 PM |
I'm watching it again w/o the nap time.
Why did Shuey walk into the Toyota garages after his off?
Why did Shuey walk into the Toyota garages after his off?
| artkevin | 04-02-2006 02:20 PM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck]Yep, first lap of the race he had the fastest lap.
I'm pissed Speed lost his point, they should have done osmething during the event and I'm surprised they didn't look at Ralfy.[/QUOTE]
Agreed about Ralfy. Speed also got fined $5 grand for being abusive towards DC in front of the stewards. Hmmmm.
So in one race Klien goes out, Liuzzi follows, Speed passes DC under yellow, Speed gets in DC's face, DC "zig-zags" in front of Trulli under green flag.
Come on Red Bull guys get together.
I've got to give Sato some props. He did a great job.
I'm pissed Speed lost his point, they should have done osmething during the event and I'm surprised they didn't look at Ralfy.[/QUOTE]
Agreed about Ralfy. Speed also got fined $5 grand for being abusive towards DC in front of the stewards. Hmmmm.
So in one race Klien goes out, Liuzzi follows, Speed passes DC under yellow, Speed gets in DC's face, DC "zig-zags" in front of Trulli under green flag.
Come on Red Bull guys get together.
I've got to give Sato some props. He did a great job.
| StuBeck | 04-02-2006 02:29 PM |
DC didn't zig zag in front of Trulli, he was driving his line and then Trulli hit him. I think Ferrari is the one who has to get it together, one okay race and the rest has been pretty embarrasing if they think they're going to win the championship this year.
| Ferg | 04-02-2006 02:39 PM |
[QUOTE=Bonzo]I'm watching it again w/o the nap time.
Why did Shuey walk into the Toyota garages after his off?[/QUOTE]
From what I could see a round of pitstops was starting and he was sort of stuck on the garage side of the pitlane. Ferrari and Toyota are next to each other so maybe there's a shortcut that doesn't involve getting run over.
Why did Shuey walk into the Toyota garages after his off?[/QUOTE]
From what I could see a round of pitstops was starting and he was sort of stuck on the garage side of the pitlane. Ferrari and Toyota are next to each other so maybe there's a shortcut that doesn't involve getting run over.
| ptclaus98 | 04-02-2006 02:54 PM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck]Yep, first lap of the race he had the fastest lap.
I'm pissed Speed lost his point, they should have done osmething during the event and I'm surprised they didn't look at Ralfy.[/QUOTE]
I said that because Kimi got the fast lap. :banana:
I'm pissed Speed lost his point, they should have done osmething during the event and I'm surprised they didn't look at Ralfy.[/QUOTE]
I said that because Kimi got the fast lap. :banana:
| John__Gotti | 04-02-2006 03:01 PM |
[QUOTE=KAX]brazil 2003 is the one i think of. only 8 finishers.[/QUOTE]
Was that when it was raining and they called the race after a huge crash at the start/finish line. Can't remember who was hit but it was BIG. I want to say it was Fisi but that doesn't seem right
Was that when it was raining and they called the race after a huge crash at the start/finish line. Can't remember who was hit but it was BIG. I want to say it was Fisi but that doesn't seem right
| Ferg | 04-02-2006 03:01 PM |
[QUOTE=ptclaus98]I said that because Kimi got the fast lap. :banana:[/QUOTE]
Too bad it's only a statistic. :rolleyes:
I'd love to see them start awarding a point for pole and another for fastest lap.
Hell, let's go as far as to award a constructor point to whoever tops a given session, third driver's included.
Too bad it's only a statistic. :rolleyes:
I'd love to see them start awarding a point for pole and another for fastest lap.
Hell, let's go as far as to award a constructor point to whoever tops a given session, third driver's included.
| Ferg | 04-02-2006 03:02 PM |
[QUOTE=John__Gotti]Was that when it was raining and they called the race after a huge crash at the start/finish line. Can't remember who was hit but it was BIG. I want to say it was Fisi but that doesn't seem right[/QUOTE]
Webber lost it then Alonso hit him at full speed. Still finshed on the podium...
Fisi took home the trophy for Jordan (over Raikkonen) but only after a few weeks of arguing.
Webber lost it then Alonso hit him at full speed. Still finshed on the podium...
Fisi took home the trophy for Jordan (over Raikkonen) but only after a few weeks of arguing.
| dorrington | 04-02-2006 03:03 PM |
[QUOTE=bitterWRX]I bet Button could have rolled to the finish. But I think it was better for him that his engine blew. Even if he made this one, he would have had an engine about to blow. So in a way, it's a good thing.
Congrats to Alonso again. Who continues to dominate so hardcore.[/QUOTE]
the synopsis on formula1.com claimed that honda told button to pull over before the line. but even if they'd have an engine change penalty for imola, they'd at least have gotten the points from this race...I'm not so sure that was a good decision...he would have gotten sixth, which is a pretty good finish for honda
anybody know exactly what Speed said that cost him $5000? It seems like he's turning out to be a poor representative/role model for the US :( He lacks maturity in my opinion
Congrats to Alonso again. Who continues to dominate so hardcore.[/QUOTE]
the synopsis on formula1.com claimed that honda told button to pull over before the line. but even if they'd have an engine change penalty for imola, they'd at least have gotten the points from this race...I'm not so sure that was a good decision...he would have gotten sixth, which is a pretty good finish for honda
anybody know exactly what Speed said that cost him $5000? It seems like he's turning out to be a poor representative/role model for the US :( He lacks maturity in my opinion
| John__Gotti | 04-02-2006 03:06 PM |
Thanks Ferg, my memory sucks but that was a horrible crash. Probably the worst I have ever personally seen in F1.
| John__Gotti | 04-02-2006 03:19 PM |
[QUOTE=Smart_alek]I think it could have been Justin Wilson who spun out in Edmonton, could be Vasser though.[/QUOTE]
Memory sucks so I just looked at the finish for that race and took a guess. Just know it happened right in front of me on turn 3. Said he was trying to push the radio button and accidently pushed the "push to pass" and just lost it. To funny.
Memory sucks so I just looked at the finish for that race and took a guess. Just know it happened right in front of me on turn 3. Said he was trying to push the radio button and accidently pushed the "push to pass" and just lost it. To funny.
| Ferg | 04-02-2006 03:28 PM |
I remember Montoya doing something very similar in Portland in 1999 when he was driving for Ganassi in CART. He was leading the field at a restart, got on the gas too early and spun the car. As the field split to avoid him, JPM did a neat 360, stood on the gas again, and reclaimed all but two spots by the first corner. It all happened in about five or six seconds....great stuff. :D
| John__Gotti | 04-02-2006 03:34 PM |
Ferg, can you remember who crashed on the formation lap last year or the year before. I just remember someone doing the fishtail thing putting heat in the tires and last it and hit the wall. Race ended before it started, now that was funny.
| XenoWolf | 04-02-2006 04:03 PM |
[QUOTE=John__Gotti]Ferg, can you remember who crashed on the formation lap last year or the year before. I just remember someone doing the fishtail thing putting heat in the tires and last it and hit the wall. Race ended before it started, now that was funny.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Australian_Grand_Prix[/url]
Doesn't note anything, and I can't remember that far back.
I'm pissed because over half my damn picks wrecked. :mad:
I'm looking at the official final results and I see Button listed as +1 instead of a retirement. How is this possible? Does this mean he'll have to start from the back of the grid if (when) he changes the engine for the next event?
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Australian_Grand_Prix[/url]
Doesn't note anything, and I can't remember that far back.
I'm pissed because over half my damn picks wrecked. :mad:
I'm looking at the official final results and I see Button listed as +1 instead of a retirement. How is this possible? Does this mean he'll have to start from the back of the grid if (when) he changes the engine for the next event?
| artkevin | 04-02-2006 04:47 PM |
[QUOTE=dorrington]
anybody know exactly what Speed said that cost him $5000? It seems like he's turning out to be a poor representative/role model for the US :( He lacks maturity in my opinion[/QUOTE]
I don't know what he said but Scott has always been a loud mouth. He admits that he is not a nice/good guy. I think it is slightly refreshing (a little like JV) to have a guy not be a complete corp. type of guy. At the same time its not the best representation we can have but its better then none. I am not a fan of him talking smack to a veteran like DC particularly becuase they are in the "same" team. Again, this all without knowing the details.
anybody know exactly what Speed said that cost him $5000? It seems like he's turning out to be a poor representative/role model for the US :( He lacks maturity in my opinion[/QUOTE]
I don't know what he said but Scott has always been a loud mouth. He admits that he is not a nice/good guy. I think it is slightly refreshing (a little like JV) to have a guy not be a complete corp. type of guy. At the same time its not the best representation we can have but its better then none. I am not a fan of him talking smack to a veteran like DC particularly becuase they are in the "same" team. Again, this all without knowing the details.
| KAX | 04-02-2006 05:10 PM |
[QUOTE=John__Gotti]Was that when it was raining and they called the race after a huge crash at the start/finish line. Can't remember who was hit but it was BIG. I want to say it was Fisi but that doesn't seem right[/QUOTE]
No it wasnt that one. Most of it was accidents and then a few mechanical failures. I just remember Trulli pulling off the renault on the side of the track, and no one came to pcik it up, so it sat there the rest of the race.
heres the stats on that race:
[url]http://www.formula1.com/archive/grandprix/2003/4.html[/url]
No it wasnt that one. Most of it was accidents and then a few mechanical failures. I just remember Trulli pulling off the renault on the side of the track, and no one came to pcik it up, so it sat there the rest of the race.
heres the stats on that race:
[url]http://www.formula1.com/archive/grandprix/2003/4.html[/url]
| Ferg | 04-02-2006 06:44 PM |
[QUOTE=KAX]No it wasnt that one. Most of it was accidents and then a few mechanical failures. I just remember Trulli pulling off the renault on the side of the track, and no one came to pcik it up, so it sat there the rest of the race.[/QUOTE]
Yes it was. The 2003 Brazilian Grand Prix was not an easy race to forget.
This was the wet to drying race that saw a large river of water running across the track at Subida do Lago, the fast left hander. IIRC just about everyone had big moments there, with many drivers ending up in the tire wall.
Fisichella passed Raikonnen on lap 53 for the lead of the race, but later that same lap Webber lost the rear of his Jaguar at the last left hand corner, Subida do Boxes, while running ninth (I think it was pretty far back). He hit the outside wall, spun across the track, hit the inside wall, ripping all the wheels, engine, gearbox, and just about everything else off the car. Alonso comes along at nearly full speed and clouts one of Webber's rear wheels and suspension bits, tearing off his front end and sending him into the wall. It was a very big hit.
This brought out the red flag, and shortly thereafter the race was called. The problem was whether or not to call the race one lap previously, at the start of 53, which was the norm apparently and would have meant Fisi was behind Raikonnen. In fact that's what they did, and Kimi took the the top step on the podium.
It was only after a protest from the Jordan team, and a ruling from the FIA Court of Appeals two weeks later that the order was corrected to reflect how they were running when the race was red flagged. Fisichella over Raikkonen with Alonso being classified in third. DC's McLaren, Frentzen's Sauber, Villenueve in the BAR, Ralfie in the Williams, and finally Trulli in the other Renault. Webber was the last car to retire and was classified in ninth.
The funny part of the race was when Fisichella's Jordan went up in flames on the slow down lap. :huh:
A very bizarre Grand Prix.
:)
Yes it was. The 2003 Brazilian Grand Prix was not an easy race to forget.
This was the wet to drying race that saw a large river of water running across the track at Subida do Lago, the fast left hander. IIRC just about everyone had big moments there, with many drivers ending up in the tire wall.
Fisichella passed Raikonnen on lap 53 for the lead of the race, but later that same lap Webber lost the rear of his Jaguar at the last left hand corner, Subida do Boxes, while running ninth (I think it was pretty far back). He hit the outside wall, spun across the track, hit the inside wall, ripping all the wheels, engine, gearbox, and just about everything else off the car. Alonso comes along at nearly full speed and clouts one of Webber's rear wheels and suspension bits, tearing off his front end and sending him into the wall. It was a very big hit.
This brought out the red flag, and shortly thereafter the race was called. The problem was whether or not to call the race one lap previously, at the start of 53, which was the norm apparently and would have meant Fisi was behind Raikonnen. In fact that's what they did, and Kimi took the the top step on the podium.
It was only after a protest from the Jordan team, and a ruling from the FIA Court of Appeals two weeks later that the order was corrected to reflect how they were running when the race was red flagged. Fisichella over Raikkonen with Alonso being classified in third. DC's McLaren, Frentzen's Sauber, Villenueve in the BAR, Ralfie in the Williams, and finally Trulli in the other Renault. Webber was the last car to retire and was classified in ninth.
The funny part of the race was when Fisichella's Jordan went up in flames on the slow down lap. :huh:
A very bizarre Grand Prix.
:)
| Ferg | 04-02-2006 08:25 PM |
Kimi fans can blame Olivia Newton-John for putting the hex on his front wing.
[IMG]http://www.pbase.com/image/58103992/large.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.pbase.com/image/58103992/large.jpg[/IMG]
| JoD | 04-02-2006 08:49 PM |
[QUOTE=Ferg]Kimi fans can blame Olivia Newton-John for putting the hex on his front wing.
[IMG]http://www.pbase.com/image/58103992/large.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Darn you Olivia!! :furious:
:D
[IMG]http://www.pbase.com/image/58103992/large.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Darn you Olivia!! :furious:
:D
| Chiketkd | 04-02-2006 08:58 PM |
[QUOTE=spooln04]Well both ferrari's are out now....[/QUOTE]
When Massa got in that wreck...I was dissapointed but still had high hopes for Ferrari. After Schumi wrecked I turned off the tele and went straight to bed! :rolleyes:
When Massa got in that wreck...I was dissapointed but still had high hopes for Ferrari. After Schumi wrecked I turned off the tele and went straight to bed! :rolleyes:
| StuBeck | 04-02-2006 09:53 PM |
[QUOTE=John__Gotti]Ferg, can you remember who crashed on the formation lap last year or the year before. I just remember someone doing the fishtail thing putting heat in the tires and last it and hit the wall. Race ended before it started, now that was funny.[/QUOTE]
Maybe you're thinking of Schumi in Monaco in 04 hitting Montoya during a safety car or Schumacher hitting Albers on the recon lap at China?
Maybe you're thinking of Schumi in Monaco in 04 hitting Montoya during a safety car or Schumacher hitting Albers on the recon lap at China?
| StuBeck | 04-02-2006 09:54 PM |
[QUOTE=dorrington]the synopsis on formula1.com claimed that honda told button to pull over before the line. but even if they'd have an engine change penalty for imola, they'd at least have gotten the points from this race...I'm not so sure that was a good decision...he would have gotten sixth, which is a pretty good finish for honda
anybody know exactly what Speed said that cost him $5000? It seems like he's turning out to be a poor representative/role model for the US :( He lacks maturity in my opinion[/QUOTE]
Imola is a lot harder race to pass at then Australia, and they've been good at that track. They also knew that Barrichello would go to 7th so they only really lost two points and hav a much better chance of a good finish at the next race.
anybody know exactly what Speed said that cost him $5000? It seems like he's turning out to be a poor representative/role model for the US :( He lacks maturity in my opinion[/QUOTE]
Imola is a lot harder race to pass at then Australia, and they've been good at that track. They also knew that Barrichello would go to 7th so they only really lost two points and hav a much better chance of a good finish at the next race.
| StuBeck | 04-02-2006 09:56 PM |
[QUOTE=XenoWolf][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Australian_Grand_Prix[/url]
Doesn't note anything, and I can't remember that far back.
I'm pissed because over half my damn picks wrecked. :mad:
I'm looking at the official final results and I see Button listed as +1 instead of a retirement. How is this possible? Does this mean he'll have to start from the back of the grid if (when) he changes the engine for the next event?[/QUOTE]
You are still classified as long as you finish within like 10% of the winner or something. He didn't finish the race so he will be able to change his engine.
Doesn't note anything, and I can't remember that far back.
I'm pissed because over half my damn picks wrecked. :mad:
I'm looking at the official final results and I see Button listed as +1 instead of a retirement. How is this possible? Does this mean he'll have to start from the back of the grid if (when) he changes the engine for the next event?[/QUOTE]
You are still classified as long as you finish within like 10% of the winner or something. He didn't finish the race so he will be able to change his engine.
| StuBeck | 04-02-2006 09:59 PM |
[QUOTE=Ferg]Yes it was. The 2003 Brazilian Grand Prix was not an easy race to forget.
This was the wet to drying race that saw a large river of water running across the track at Subida do Lago, the fast left hander. IIRC just about everyone had big moments there, with many drivers ending up in the tire wall.
Fisichella passed Raikonnen on lap 53 for the lead of the race, but later that same lap Webber lost the rear of his Jaguar at the last left hand corner, Subida do Boxes, while running ninth (I think it was pretty far back). He hit the outside wall, spun across the track, hit the inside wall, ripping all the wheels, engine, gearbox, and just about everything else off the car. Alonso comes along at nearly full speed and clouts one of Webber's rear wheels and suspension bits, tearing off his front end and sending him into the wall. It was a very big hit.
This brought out the red flag, and shortly thereafter the race was called. The problem was whether or not to call the race one lap previously, at the start of 53, which was the norm apparently and would have meant Fisi was behind Raikonnen. In fact that's what they did, and Kimi took the the top step on the podium.
It was only after a protest from the Jordan team, and a ruling from the FIA Court of Appeals two weeks later that the order was corrected to reflect how they were running when the race was red flagged. Fisichella over Raikkonen with Alonso being classified in third. DC's McLaren, Frentzen's Sauber, Villenueve in the BAR, Ralfie in the Williams, and finally Trulli in the other Renault. Webber was the last car to retire and was classified in ninth.
The funny part of the race was when Fisichella's Jordan went up in flames on the slow down lap. :huh:
A very bizarre Grand Prix.
:)[/QUOTE]
Webber was in seventh or sixth (I know he was in the points) but the big reason they red flagged it was because Alonso flew into some of the debris after the accident and damaged the wall. If the race is called they go the position two laps previous to the red flag, this is where the issue happened and is why Alonso was able to keep his position because he was still running before the actual end.
The big issue for the event was the fact that to save money the teams agreed to bring only one set of rain tyres, which they brought intermediates...which wasn't close to enough. If they had had actual rain tyres or monsoon tyres it wouldn't have been a problem. They have since gone back and started bringing all types of tyres to the events.
This was the wet to drying race that saw a large river of water running across the track at Subida do Lago, the fast left hander. IIRC just about everyone had big moments there, with many drivers ending up in the tire wall.
Fisichella passed Raikonnen on lap 53 for the lead of the race, but later that same lap Webber lost the rear of his Jaguar at the last left hand corner, Subida do Boxes, while running ninth (I think it was pretty far back). He hit the outside wall, spun across the track, hit the inside wall, ripping all the wheels, engine, gearbox, and just about everything else off the car. Alonso comes along at nearly full speed and clouts one of Webber's rear wheels and suspension bits, tearing off his front end and sending him into the wall. It was a very big hit.
This brought out the red flag, and shortly thereafter the race was called. The problem was whether or not to call the race one lap previously, at the start of 53, which was the norm apparently and would have meant Fisi was behind Raikonnen. In fact that's what they did, and Kimi took the the top step on the podium.
It was only after a protest from the Jordan team, and a ruling from the FIA Court of Appeals two weeks later that the order was corrected to reflect how they were running when the race was red flagged. Fisichella over Raikkonen with Alonso being classified in third. DC's McLaren, Frentzen's Sauber, Villenueve in the BAR, Ralfie in the Williams, and finally Trulli in the other Renault. Webber was the last car to retire and was classified in ninth.
The funny part of the race was when Fisichella's Jordan went up in flames on the slow down lap. :huh:
A very bizarre Grand Prix.
:)[/QUOTE]
Webber was in seventh or sixth (I know he was in the points) but the big reason they red flagged it was because Alonso flew into some of the debris after the accident and damaged the wall. If the race is called they go the position two laps previous to the red flag, this is where the issue happened and is why Alonso was able to keep his position because he was still running before the actual end.
The big issue for the event was the fact that to save money the teams agreed to bring only one set of rain tyres, which they brought intermediates...which wasn't close to enough. If they had had actual rain tyres or monsoon tyres it wouldn't have been a problem. They have since gone back and started bringing all types of tyres to the events.
| Ferg | 04-02-2006 10:25 PM |
You're right about him being in the points, he was in eigth spot. I got confused since the lap charts showed him in ninth on lap 53, which would make sense considering he stuffed it on that lap.
You're right about the tires too, I had forgotten all about that disaster. :rolleyes:
:)
You're right about the tires too, I had forgotten all about that disaster. :rolleyes:
:)
| Ferg | 04-03-2006 12:48 AM |
The minute Toro Roso scored a point it was going to hit the fan...
[QUOTE][B]Exclusive: teams ask FIA to exclude STR[/B]
By Jonathan Noble Monday, April 3rd 2006, 04:35 GMT
Super Aguri and Midland F1 have written to the FIA asking that Scuderia Toro Rosso be excluded from scoring points in this year's constructors' championship, as other teams look set to join a campaign to get the performance of V10 engines pegged back, autosport.com can reveal.
Although it appeared that the row over Toro Rosso's V10 engines had died down following their fairly low-key performances in the Bahrain and Malaysian Grands Prix, high-level sources have revealed that behind-the-scene moves are currently taking place to lobby the FIA to change the regulations.
This all came before Vitantonio Liuzzi showed the capabilities of the V10 engine when he overtook Michael Schumacher in the Australian Grand Prix, and Scott Speed crossed the finish line in eighth place before losing that position because of a yellow flag infringement.
Autosport.com understands that at a meeting of the manufacturers' engine representative at Sepang two weeks ago, the equivalency formula between V10 and V8 engines was discussed at length and a proposal was put forward to register the level of unhappiness at the situation with the FIA.
While Toro Rosso had not scored points in the first two races of the season, the engine makers feared that the torque-advantage that is held by the V10 engines would allow the team to mix it near the front of the field at tracks like Monaco and Hungary.
Following the Malaysian Grand Prix, Super Aguri and Midland put together a joint letter, which was handed to the FIA at last weekend's Australian Grand Prix.
The letter expresses the two teams' concerns about the performance of Toro Rosso's V10 engines and, amid fears that the points-scoring potential could have a major impact on their own constructors' championship hopes, the teams ask that the FIA change the regulations so that the Red Bull-owned team do not score constructors' championship points.
Super Aguri managing director Daniel Audetto confirmed the existence of the letter and explained that there was a great deal of frustration at Toro Rosso's use of V10s.
"We are trying to protect our investment," he told autosport.com. "We think that it was an unfair situation when Red Bull bought Minardi, because I understand they gave this authorisation to use the V10 because otherwise Paul Stoddart was out of business. The teams said, 'okay we need 10 teams so you have this special dispensation.'
"That was the reason and the fact that Red Bull is now owning Toro Rosso, they have not only the money to buy a V8 but they could buy Cosworth if they want.
"It gives them an unfair advantage against the small teams, but at circuits like Monaco, Hungary, Montreal or if it is wet then they could mix it up with the big boys and take away points from the others.
"We think the best thing is for the FIA to let them race but without scoring points for the constructors' championship. They should still get points in the drivers' championship."
Audetto admitted, however, that the chances of the FIA acting on their request were slim, especially because any change to the Formula One Sporting Regulations would need unanimous approval. Toro Rosso and sister team Red Bull Racing would certainly not vote in favour of the move.
"I think it is unlikely that the FIA will accept our request because it is very difficult to change during the year the regulations, but at least we made a point," added Audetto.
The letter from Super Aguri and Midland is expected to be followed in the next fortnight by a joint letter from a number of teams and manufacturers urging the FIA to take action about the V10 engine situation.
Sources suggest that the letter, which is being drafted at the moment, will indicate support for the Super Aguri and Midland request, but adopt a slightly softer stance in requesting the FIA to 'encourage' Toro Rosso to move away from a V10 engine.
"The best way to encourage them is simply to turn their power down," said one source who was supporting the campaign. "If you make a V10 a lot slower, then Toro Rosso will want to switch to a V8."
Audetto said he welcomed the future support from rival teams and said even if the request falls on deaf ears, at least the FIA will have been made aware of the discontent among teams.
"I think it is important that [FIA president] Max [Mosley] knows our feeling - that we made a point," he added.
"Even if he cannot change the rules. And I think also for [Red Bull owner] Mr. [Dietrich] Mateschitz, to be aware of an unfair situation. I think he is a very honourable man and will make his own decision."
Toro Rosso team principal Franz Tost was unmoved by the complaints from rival teams, however, and insisted that his outfit were doing nothing wrong in trying to make the most our of their situation.
He told autosport.com: "The FIA last year created a regulation that allows the private teams to use a V10 engine. If these teams complain now that we have an advantage, then I am sorry because I cannot understand it.
"We can sell them an engine if they want, they can buy an engine from us. If they think that the increase in performance from Toro Rosso is only because of the engine then they are a little bit wrong, I would say.
"The FIA made this regulation, all the other teams signed and they agreed to this. And I don't think that the FIA will change anything because we are not so far in front."
Tost indicated that his team were fully focused on getting even quicker this season - and warned his rival teams that they had better get used to seeing Toro Rosso challenging them.
"The people have to get used to, in their minds, the fact that Toro Rosso will not stay on the last row of the grid," he said. "We will fight and we will come forward.
"There is no point in the regulations that says Toro Rosso with the V10 engine is not allowed to be within the first ten. For me it is a question of expectations. Where do our opponents expect us to be?
"If they expect us to be in the last two positions, then their expectations are wrong because we will not be in the last two positions, even with another engine.
"And the other teams should be happy we do not have a V8 because otherwise we would be in the top 10 for sure."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][B]Exclusive: teams ask FIA to exclude STR[/B]
By Jonathan Noble Monday, April 3rd 2006, 04:35 GMT
Super Aguri and Midland F1 have written to the FIA asking that Scuderia Toro Rosso be excluded from scoring points in this year's constructors' championship, as other teams look set to join a campaign to get the performance of V10 engines pegged back, autosport.com can reveal.
Although it appeared that the row over Toro Rosso's V10 engines had died down following their fairly low-key performances in the Bahrain and Malaysian Grands Prix, high-level sources have revealed that behind-the-scene moves are currently taking place to lobby the FIA to change the regulations.
This all came before Vitantonio Liuzzi showed the capabilities of the V10 engine when he overtook Michael Schumacher in the Australian Grand Prix, and Scott Speed crossed the finish line in eighth place before losing that position because of a yellow flag infringement.
Autosport.com understands that at a meeting of the manufacturers' engine representative at Sepang two weeks ago, the equivalency formula between V10 and V8 engines was discussed at length and a proposal was put forward to register the level of unhappiness at the situation with the FIA.
While Toro Rosso had not scored points in the first two races of the season, the engine makers feared that the torque-advantage that is held by the V10 engines would allow the team to mix it near the front of the field at tracks like Monaco and Hungary.
Following the Malaysian Grand Prix, Super Aguri and Midland put together a joint letter, which was handed to the FIA at last weekend's Australian Grand Prix.
The letter expresses the two teams' concerns about the performance of Toro Rosso's V10 engines and, amid fears that the points-scoring potential could have a major impact on their own constructors' championship hopes, the teams ask that the FIA change the regulations so that the Red Bull-owned team do not score constructors' championship points.
Super Aguri managing director Daniel Audetto confirmed the existence of the letter and explained that there was a great deal of frustration at Toro Rosso's use of V10s.
"We are trying to protect our investment," he told autosport.com. "We think that it was an unfair situation when Red Bull bought Minardi, because I understand they gave this authorisation to use the V10 because otherwise Paul Stoddart was out of business. The teams said, 'okay we need 10 teams so you have this special dispensation.'
"That was the reason and the fact that Red Bull is now owning Toro Rosso, they have not only the money to buy a V8 but they could buy Cosworth if they want.
"It gives them an unfair advantage against the small teams, but at circuits like Monaco, Hungary, Montreal or if it is wet then they could mix it up with the big boys and take away points from the others.
"We think the best thing is for the FIA to let them race but without scoring points for the constructors' championship. They should still get points in the drivers' championship."
Audetto admitted, however, that the chances of the FIA acting on their request were slim, especially because any change to the Formula One Sporting Regulations would need unanimous approval. Toro Rosso and sister team Red Bull Racing would certainly not vote in favour of the move.
"I think it is unlikely that the FIA will accept our request because it is very difficult to change during the year the regulations, but at least we made a point," added Audetto.
The letter from Super Aguri and Midland is expected to be followed in the next fortnight by a joint letter from a number of teams and manufacturers urging the FIA to take action about the V10 engine situation.
Sources suggest that the letter, which is being drafted at the moment, will indicate support for the Super Aguri and Midland request, but adopt a slightly softer stance in requesting the FIA to 'encourage' Toro Rosso to move away from a V10 engine.
"The best way to encourage them is simply to turn their power down," said one source who was supporting the campaign. "If you make a V10 a lot slower, then Toro Rosso will want to switch to a V8."
Audetto said he welcomed the future support from rival teams and said even if the request falls on deaf ears, at least the FIA will have been made aware of the discontent among teams.
"I think it is important that [FIA president] Max [Mosley] knows our feeling - that we made a point," he added.
"Even if he cannot change the rules. And I think also for [Red Bull owner] Mr. [Dietrich] Mateschitz, to be aware of an unfair situation. I think he is a very honourable man and will make his own decision."
Toro Rosso team principal Franz Tost was unmoved by the complaints from rival teams, however, and insisted that his outfit were doing nothing wrong in trying to make the most our of their situation.
He told autosport.com: "The FIA last year created a regulation that allows the private teams to use a V10 engine. If these teams complain now that we have an advantage, then I am sorry because I cannot understand it.
"We can sell them an engine if they want, they can buy an engine from us. If they think that the increase in performance from Toro Rosso is only because of the engine then they are a little bit wrong, I would say.
"The FIA made this regulation, all the other teams signed and they agreed to this. And I don't think that the FIA will change anything because we are not so far in front."
Tost indicated that his team were fully focused on getting even quicker this season - and warned his rival teams that they had better get used to seeing Toro Rosso challenging them.
"The people have to get used to, in their minds, the fact that Toro Rosso will not stay on the last row of the grid," he said. "We will fight and we will come forward.
"There is no point in the regulations that says Toro Rosso with the V10 engine is not allowed to be within the first ten. For me it is a question of expectations. Where do our opponents expect us to be?
"If they expect us to be in the last two positions, then their expectations are wrong because we will not be in the last two positions, even with another engine.
"And the other teams should be happy we do not have a V8 because otherwise we would be in the top 10 for sure."[/QUOTE]
| MattDell | 04-03-2006 02:41 AM |
[SIZE=6][COLOR=red][b]F1P6 Results[/b][/COLOR][/SIZE]
[size=3]for group [b]Impreza.net[/b]
for the [b]Albert Park Circuit[/b][/size]
[CODE] Rank Score F.Alonso K.Raikkonen R.Schumacher N.Heidfeld G.Fisichella J.Villeneuve R.Barrichello D.Coulthard
14. 42 109 Lord Bass F.Alonso K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella M.Schumacher J.Button D.Coulthard R.Barrichello M.Webber
36. 39 93 Stuart Becktell F.Alonso K.Raikkonen J.Montoya M.Schumacher N.Rosberg N.Heidfeld D.Coulthard G.Fisichella
49. 38 119 Gary Lancaster F.Alonso K.Raikkonen M.Schumacher G.Fisichella J.Button J.Montoya M.Webber D.Coulthard
96. 36 106 Matt Dell F.Alonso K.Raikkonen J.Button N.Rosberg M.Schumacher G.Fisichella F.Massa R.Barrichello
165. 34 89 Paul Chavez K.Raikkonen F.Alonso J.Button M.Schumacher J.Montoya G.Fisichella R.Barrichello F.Massa
34 95 Matt Phelps F.Alonso J.Button K.Raikkonen M.Schumacher G.Fisichella J.Trulli N.Rosberg J.Villeneuve
34 34 Jim Rider F.Alonso M.Schumacher J.Button G.Fisichella J.Montoya K.Raikkonen R.Schumacher R.Barrichello
302. 32 97 Ony Anglade K.Raikkonen J.Montoya F.Alonso M.Schumacher J.Button G.Fisichella N.Rosberg D.Coulthard
468. 30 116 Andrew Sekellick K.Raikkonen F.Alonso G.Fisichella M.Schumacher F.Massa J.Montoya J.Button R.Barrichello
598. 29 100 Andy Zi F.Alonso M.Schumacher G.Fisichella J.Montoya K.Raikkonen J.Button J.Villeneuve N.Rosberg
674. 28 94 Rupert Berrington F.Alonso K.Raikkonen M.Webber J.Button M.Schumacher G.Fisichella N.Rosberg F.Massa
28 96 Christopher Mcguire F.Alonso J.Button M.Schumacher G.Fisichella R.Barrichello K.Raikkonen N.Rosberg M.Webber
28 103 Scott Ripley F.Alonso J.Button M.Webber G.Fisichella M.Schumacher J.Montoya R.Barrichello F.Massa
904. 26 83 James Alberts F.Alonso M.Webber G.Fisichella M.Schumacher J.Button N.Rosberg J.Montoya D.Coulthard
26 88 Sean Ford K.Raikkonen F.Alonso J.Montoya M.Schumacher G.Fisichella N.Rosberg J.Button M.Webber
26 99 Jeff Preston F.Alonso K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella J.Button J.Montoya M.Schumacher M.Webber N.Rosberg
26 88 Brian Sullivan K.Raikkonen N.Rosberg F.Alonso M.Webber J.Montoya D.Coulthard G.Fisichella J.Trulli
1217. 24 96 Matt Doyle G.Fisichella F.Alonso M.Schumacher K.Raikkonen J.Montoya N.Heidfeld J.Trulli N.Rosberg
24 104 Chris Hartman K.Raikkonen F.Alonso J.Button M.Schumacher J.Montoya N.Rosberg J.Trulli R.Barrichello
24 92 Alex Hofstetter M.Schumacher K.Raikkonen F.Alonso J.Button F.Massa G.Fisichella N.Rosberg J.Montoya
24 88 Steve Morris K.Raikkonen F.Alonso J.Button M.Schumacher J.Montoya G.Fisichella M.Webber C.Klien
24 96 Andrew Parente K.Raikkonen F.Alonso J.Button G.Fisichella J.Montoya N.Rosberg M.Schumacher J.Trulli
1441. 23 91 David Ferguson J.Button K.Raikkonen M.Webber M.Schumacher N.Rosberg F.Alonso R.Barrichello F.Massa
23 100 David Pio J.Button N.Rosberg M.Webber F.Alonso K.Raikkonen M.Schumacher J.Villeneuve G.Fisichella
1548. 22 95 Jody Bertoli K.Raikkonen F.Alonso G.Fisichella J.Montoya N.Rosberg M.Schumacher J.Button F.Massa
22 87 Michael Fiyak J.Montoya K.Raikkonen F.Alonso J.Button M.Schumacher N.Rosberg G.Fisichella F.Massa
22 96 Johann Joo K.Raikkonen F.Alonso G.Fisichella M.Schumacher J.Button J.Montoya N.Rosberg F.Massa
22 98 Peter Lapin K.Raikkonen F.Alonso J.Button M.Webber M.Schumacher N.Rosberg G.Fisichella J.Montoya
1750. 21 85 Mika Hyytiainen K.Raikkonen J.Montoya M.Schumacher F.Alonso F.Massa G.Fisichella N.Rosberg M.Webber
21 75 Tommy Mcwilliams M.Webber F.Alonso M.Schumacher G.Fisichella K.Raikkonen F.Massa N.Rosberg J.Button
1899. 19 91 Brad Erdman K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella F.Alonso J.Button M.Schumacher J.Montoya N.Rosberg J.Trulli
19 91 William Truett K.Raikkonen M.Schumacher G.Fisichella F.Alonso J.Button J.Montoya F.Massa M.Webber
1965. 18 44 Ken March M.Schumacher F.Massa J.Button K.Raikkonen J.Montoya R.Barrichello M.Webber N.Heidfeld [/CODE]
[SIZE=6][COLOR=red][b]F1P6 2006 Standings[/b][/COLOR][/SIZE]
[size=3]for group [b]Impreza.net[/b][/size]
[CODE] 18. 119 Gary Lancaster
50. 116 Andrew Sekellick
203. 109 Lord Bass
336. 106 Matt Dell
430. 104 Chris Hartman
494. 103 Scott Ripley
677. 100 David Pio
100 Andy Zi
750. 99 Jeff Preston
833. 98 Peter Lapin
892. 97 Ony Anglade
967. 96 Matt Doyle
96 Johann Joo
96 Christopher Mcguire
96 Andrew Parente
1052. 95 Jody Bertoli
95 Matt Phelps
1107. 94 Rupert Berrington
1161. 93 Stuart Becktell
1210. 92 Alex Hofstetter
1281. 91 Brad Erdman
91 David Ferguson
91 William Truett
1388. 89 Paul Chavez
1428. 88 Sean Ford
88 Steve Morris
88 Brian Sullivan
1470. 87 Michael Fiyak
1562. 85 Mika Hyytiainen
1642. 83 James Alberts
1860. 75 Tommy Mcwilliams
2181. 44 Ken March
2195. 34 Jim Rider [/CODE]
Looks like I did fairly well for a very unpredictable race. Glad I forgot to put Montoya in my top 8! :cool:
-Matt
[size=3]for group [b]Impreza.net[/b]
for the [b]Albert Park Circuit[/b][/size]
[CODE] Rank Score F.Alonso K.Raikkonen R.Schumacher N.Heidfeld G.Fisichella J.Villeneuve R.Barrichello D.Coulthard
14. 42 109 Lord Bass F.Alonso K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella M.Schumacher J.Button D.Coulthard R.Barrichello M.Webber
36. 39 93 Stuart Becktell F.Alonso K.Raikkonen J.Montoya M.Schumacher N.Rosberg N.Heidfeld D.Coulthard G.Fisichella
49. 38 119 Gary Lancaster F.Alonso K.Raikkonen M.Schumacher G.Fisichella J.Button J.Montoya M.Webber D.Coulthard
96. 36 106 Matt Dell F.Alonso K.Raikkonen J.Button N.Rosberg M.Schumacher G.Fisichella F.Massa R.Barrichello
165. 34 89 Paul Chavez K.Raikkonen F.Alonso J.Button M.Schumacher J.Montoya G.Fisichella R.Barrichello F.Massa
34 95 Matt Phelps F.Alonso J.Button K.Raikkonen M.Schumacher G.Fisichella J.Trulli N.Rosberg J.Villeneuve
34 34 Jim Rider F.Alonso M.Schumacher J.Button G.Fisichella J.Montoya K.Raikkonen R.Schumacher R.Barrichello
302. 32 97 Ony Anglade K.Raikkonen J.Montoya F.Alonso M.Schumacher J.Button G.Fisichella N.Rosberg D.Coulthard
468. 30 116 Andrew Sekellick K.Raikkonen F.Alonso G.Fisichella M.Schumacher F.Massa J.Montoya J.Button R.Barrichello
598. 29 100 Andy Zi F.Alonso M.Schumacher G.Fisichella J.Montoya K.Raikkonen J.Button J.Villeneuve N.Rosberg
674. 28 94 Rupert Berrington F.Alonso K.Raikkonen M.Webber J.Button M.Schumacher G.Fisichella N.Rosberg F.Massa
28 96 Christopher Mcguire F.Alonso J.Button M.Schumacher G.Fisichella R.Barrichello K.Raikkonen N.Rosberg M.Webber
28 103 Scott Ripley F.Alonso J.Button M.Webber G.Fisichella M.Schumacher J.Montoya R.Barrichello F.Massa
904. 26 83 James Alberts F.Alonso M.Webber G.Fisichella M.Schumacher J.Button N.Rosberg J.Montoya D.Coulthard
26 88 Sean Ford K.Raikkonen F.Alonso J.Montoya M.Schumacher G.Fisichella N.Rosberg J.Button M.Webber
26 99 Jeff Preston F.Alonso K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella J.Button J.Montoya M.Schumacher M.Webber N.Rosberg
26 88 Brian Sullivan K.Raikkonen N.Rosberg F.Alonso M.Webber J.Montoya D.Coulthard G.Fisichella J.Trulli
1217. 24 96 Matt Doyle G.Fisichella F.Alonso M.Schumacher K.Raikkonen J.Montoya N.Heidfeld J.Trulli N.Rosberg
24 104 Chris Hartman K.Raikkonen F.Alonso J.Button M.Schumacher J.Montoya N.Rosberg J.Trulli R.Barrichello
24 92 Alex Hofstetter M.Schumacher K.Raikkonen F.Alonso J.Button F.Massa G.Fisichella N.Rosberg J.Montoya
24 88 Steve Morris K.Raikkonen F.Alonso J.Button M.Schumacher J.Montoya G.Fisichella M.Webber C.Klien
24 96 Andrew Parente K.Raikkonen F.Alonso J.Button G.Fisichella J.Montoya N.Rosberg M.Schumacher J.Trulli
1441. 23 91 David Ferguson J.Button K.Raikkonen M.Webber M.Schumacher N.Rosberg F.Alonso R.Barrichello F.Massa
23 100 David Pio J.Button N.Rosberg M.Webber F.Alonso K.Raikkonen M.Schumacher J.Villeneuve G.Fisichella
1548. 22 95 Jody Bertoli K.Raikkonen F.Alonso G.Fisichella J.Montoya N.Rosberg M.Schumacher J.Button F.Massa
22 87 Michael Fiyak J.Montoya K.Raikkonen F.Alonso J.Button M.Schumacher N.Rosberg G.Fisichella F.Massa
22 96 Johann Joo K.Raikkonen F.Alonso G.Fisichella M.Schumacher J.Button J.Montoya N.Rosberg F.Massa
22 98 Peter Lapin K.Raikkonen F.Alonso J.Button M.Webber M.Schumacher N.Rosberg G.Fisichella J.Montoya
1750. 21 85 Mika Hyytiainen K.Raikkonen J.Montoya M.Schumacher F.Alonso F.Massa G.Fisichella N.Rosberg M.Webber
21 75 Tommy Mcwilliams M.Webber F.Alonso M.Schumacher G.Fisichella K.Raikkonen F.Massa N.Rosberg J.Button
1899. 19 91 Brad Erdman K.Raikkonen G.Fisichella F.Alonso J.Button M.Schumacher J.Montoya N.Rosberg J.Trulli
19 91 William Truett K.Raikkonen M.Schumacher G.Fisichella F.Alonso J.Button J.Montoya F.Massa M.Webber
1965. 18 44 Ken March M.Schumacher F.Massa J.Button K.Raikkonen J.Montoya R.Barrichello M.Webber N.Heidfeld [/CODE]
[SIZE=6][COLOR=red][b]F1P6 2006 Standings[/b][/COLOR][/SIZE]
[size=3]for group [b]Impreza.net[/b][/size]
[CODE] 18. 119 Gary Lancaster
50. 116 Andrew Sekellick
203. 109 Lord Bass
336. 106 Matt Dell
430. 104 Chris Hartman
494. 103 Scott Ripley
677. 100 David Pio
100 Andy Zi
750. 99 Jeff Preston
833. 98 Peter Lapin
892. 97 Ony Anglade
967. 96 Matt Doyle
96 Johann Joo
96 Christopher Mcguire
96 Andrew Parente
1052. 95 Jody Bertoli
95 Matt Phelps
1107. 94 Rupert Berrington
1161. 93 Stuart Becktell
1210. 92 Alex Hofstetter
1281. 91 Brad Erdman
91 David Ferguson
91 William Truett
1388. 89 Paul Chavez
1428. 88 Sean Ford
88 Steve Morris
88 Brian Sullivan
1470. 87 Michael Fiyak
1562. 85 Mika Hyytiainen
1642. 83 James Alberts
1860. 75 Tommy Mcwilliams
2181. 44 Ken March
2195. 34 Jim Rider [/CODE]
Looks like I did fairly well for a very unpredictable race. Glad I forgot to put Montoya in my top 8! :cool:
-Matt
| Wr4wrX | 04-03-2006 03:08 AM |
My favorite part of the Australian GP:
During the post-race interview:
Peter Windsor: And winning his [B]first[/B] grand prix of the year for Mild Seven Renault, the World Champion, Fernando Alonso.
Then, the expression and exchange from Kimi and Alonso is priceless. They look at each other like, "wtf?" :huh:
(FYI: Alonso won the first GP in Bahrain.)
During the post-race interview:
Peter Windsor: And winning his [B]first[/B] grand prix of the year for Mild Seven Renault, the World Champion, Fernando Alonso.
Then, the expression and exchange from Kimi and Alonso is priceless. They look at each other like, "wtf?" :huh:
(FYI: Alonso won the first GP in Bahrain.)
| MattDell | 04-03-2006 03:53 AM |
Yeah, I caught that, too. It's a shame because Peter Windsor really does know his F1.
-Matt
-Matt
| TimStevens | 04-03-2006 08:34 AM |
[QUOTE=dorrington]anybody know exactly what Speed said that cost him $5000? It seems like he's turning out to be a poor representative/role model for the US :( He lacks maturity in my opinion[/QUOTE]
According to racing-live.com he said to DC "Go F**K yourself." Ouch. I want to like Speed too, but jeebus, that's retarded.
And I don't like the corporate air of a lot of drivers either, but Montoya's attitude drives me nuts.
According to racing-live.com he said to DC "Go F**K yourself." Ouch. I want to like Speed too, but jeebus, that's retarded.
And I don't like the corporate air of a lot of drivers either, but Montoya's attitude drives me nuts.
| REX8 | 04-03-2006 09:05 AM |
[QUOTE=TimStevens]
And I don't like the corporate air of a lot of drivers either, but Montoya's attitude drives me nuts.[/QUOTE]
What did Montoya say? He's been on his best behavior lately...
I certianly haven't heard hom say anything strange...
And I don't like the corporate air of a lot of drivers either, but Montoya's attitude drives me nuts.[/QUOTE]
What did Montoya say? He's been on his best behavior lately...
I certianly haven't heard hom say anything strange...
| enduroshark | 04-03-2006 09:08 AM |
Woo-Hoo! Slowly climbing up the F1P6 Rankings ladder...
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| TimStevens | 04-03-2006 09:09 AM |
[QUOTE=REX8]What did Montoya say? He's been on his best behavior lately...
I certianly haven't heard hom say anything strange...[/QUOTE]
His actions as much as what he says. This weekend the way he was waving off the marshal without looking at him like he was a fly buzzing in his ear, for example.
I certianly haven't heard hom say anything strange...[/QUOTE]
His actions as much as what he says. This weekend the way he was waving off the marshal without looking at him like he was a fly buzzing in his ear, for example.
| finnRex | 04-03-2006 09:10 AM |
[QUOTE=REX8]What did Montoya say? He's been on his best behavior lately...
I certianly haven't heard hom say anything strange...[/QUOTE]
If I had to guess, it'd have something to do with Kimi getting preferential treatment.
Mika
I certianly haven't heard hom say anything strange...[/QUOTE]
If I had to guess, it'd have something to do with Kimi getting preferential treatment.
Mika
| StuBeck | 04-03-2006 09:12 AM |
[QUOTE=TimStevens]His actions as much as what he says. This weekend the way he was waving off the marshal without looking at him like he was a fly buzzing in his ear, for example.[/QUOTE]
I don't really see that as an issue, Schumacher storming off through another teams garage seemed much worse (stealing team secrets comes to mind) to me. I don't see why the marshall wanted to do anything with him anyways since he's out of the race anyways.
I don't really see that as an issue, Schumacher storming off through another teams garage seemed much worse (stealing team secrets comes to mind) to me. I don't see why the marshall wanted to do anything with him anyways since he's out of the race anyways.
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