| RavSpec | 09-25-2006 06:33 PM |
Gauging Interest - WRC Style Carbon Fiber Mirror For 02+ WRX/STi
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hey guys:
We are thinking about producing the WRC style carbon fiber mirror. Here are some pre-production pictures, molding are done. We want to see what kind of interest are in the Nasioc community before we put in the production order !! In addition if anyone know other vendors selling the same thing , let us know !! We don't want to go into production if someone already have it at a decent price !!
[b][color=red]Update 11/06/07 [/b][/color]
Second hatch arrived in USA. We are now shipping both fiber glass version and carbon fiber version.
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hey guys:
We are thinking about producing the WRC style carbon fiber mirror. Here are some pre-production pictures, molding are done. We want to see what kind of interest are in the Nasioc community before we put in the production order !! In addition if anyone know other vendors selling the same thing , let us know !! We don't want to go into production if someone already have it at a decent price !!
[b][color=red]Update 11/06/07 [/b][/color]
Second hatch arrived in USA. We are now shipping both fiber glass version and carbon fiber version.
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| WRXSIG | 09-25-2006 06:34 PM |
how much... i like
| Handsdown | 09-25-2006 06:37 PM |
i'd be all over that like white on rice
| RavSpec | 09-25-2006 06:38 PM |
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| blue blurr | 09-25-2006 06:44 PM |
I'm interested! Can you give us a ball park figure on price?
| JBravo920 | 09-25-2006 06:48 PM |
im down, let me know how much!
| RavSpec | 09-25-2006 06:54 PM |
Will get ball park figure from factory in a few days !! Check back for update. In addition, i can't sell anything here because it's not the for-sale forum, i will organize a GB with pricing when i confirm !!! check back for update guys !
| Handsdown | 09-25-2006 06:59 PM |
would there be a possiblity of having a flat-black, non-carbon model as well? i'm just worried about price.
| skate enjoi | 09-25-2006 07:03 PM |
yeah, bump for a price
| WgnWheel | 09-25-2006 07:28 PM |
i'd prefer non cf, but still be interested if price is right.
| Dforce | 09-25-2006 07:30 PM |
i'm guessing like $300+.
| blue blurr | 09-25-2006 07:42 PM |
Non CF would be nice also.
| yoshi8me | 09-25-2006 08:11 PM |
im interested
| 5spdfrk | 09-25-2006 08:14 PM |
yup...
| skate enjoi | 09-25-2006 08:49 PM |
too expensive for me at 300+
| Handsdown | 09-25-2006 08:54 PM |
[QUOTE=skate enjoi;15380747]too expensive for me at 300+[/QUOTE]
dude, that was just some guy's uneducated guess... i highly doubt the price will be that high, that is ganador territory, and i [i]know[/i] ravspec can do better than that in terms of inexpensive quality products.
i'd like it if people would refrain from speculating on price in this thread... just wait until RavSpec makes a GB thread with pricing. otherwise this thread will get locked, and that won't help anything.
dude, that was just some guy's uneducated guess... i highly doubt the price will be that high, that is ganador territory, and i [i]know[/i] ravspec can do better than that in terms of inexpensive quality products.
i'd like it if people would refrain from speculating on price in this thread... just wait until RavSpec makes a GB thread with pricing. otherwise this thread will get locked, and that won't help anything.
| digitalboy40 | 09-25-2006 08:57 PM |
i'd be down! thats pretty cool idea, just don't know how well it would look on my otherwise stock looking car. also, i wonder how well your visibility is :confused:
| WRXSIG | 09-25-2006 09:40 PM |
[QUOTE=Handsdown;15380796]dude, that was just some guy's uneducated guess... i highly doubt the price will be that high, that is ganador territory, and i [i]know[/i] ravspec can do better than that in terms of inexpensive quality products.
i'd like it if people would refrain from speculating on price in this thread... just wait until RavSpec makes a GB thread with pricing. otherwise this thread will get locked, and that won't help anything.[/QUOTE]
well its not gonna be $75 either.
or else it wouldnt be a big seceret. they know what they are going to charge. theyre just holding out on how hot people think they are so that they can up the $$$. its ignorant to think theyre not in the business of making $$. thats business. i personally think they should offer a fiberglass version for those who want to paint theirs.
i'd like it if people would refrain from speculating on price in this thread... just wait until RavSpec makes a GB thread with pricing. otherwise this thread will get locked, and that won't help anything.[/QUOTE]
well its not gonna be $75 either.
or else it wouldnt be a big seceret. they know what they are going to charge. theyre just holding out on how hot people think they are so that they can up the $$$. its ignorant to think theyre not in the business of making $$. thats business. i personally think they should offer a fiberglass version for those who want to paint theirs.
| Handsdown | 09-25-2006 09:44 PM |
i'm not saying that either, i'm just saying that throwing out stupid meaningless numbers(like $75) isn't going to help anything.
a statement such as "i'd pay as much as $125 for those nice mirrors!" would be perfectly acceptable as a response, saying stuff like "they're gonna be $xxxx" without any kind of backing... especially in a thread where ravspec's already said they won't discuss price in this thread in this forum...
well that's just ****ing stupid.
i agree about the non-CF option... i'd actually like a nice cheap plastic option rather than fiberglass. while i'm well aware the startup production costs for plastic molds are lots more than CF or fiberglass, i also am fairly confident that a plastic version for less than $75 would sell so well that the profits would far outweigh that of a costly CF peice.
a statement such as "i'd pay as much as $125 for those nice mirrors!" would be perfectly acceptable as a response, saying stuff like "they're gonna be $xxxx" without any kind of backing... especially in a thread where ravspec's already said they won't discuss price in this thread in this forum...
well that's just ****ing stupid.
i agree about the non-CF option... i'd actually like a nice cheap plastic option rather than fiberglass. while i'm well aware the startup production costs for plastic molds are lots more than CF or fiberglass, i also am fairly confident that a plastic version for less than $75 would sell so well that the profits would far outweigh that of a costly CF peice.
| WebMasterP | 09-25-2006 09:52 PM |
I would buy some if it worked with my in-car mirror control motors.
| RavSpec | 09-25-2006 10:08 PM |
hey guys:
anyone that is in the production / wholesale business know that price are driven by quantity order ! Simple reason is that the molding charge and production cost can be spread out !!
Unit price for 50 pieces is very different from unit price for 1000 pieces !!! As far as pricing wise, i think we have been very fair in this community. Yes, we are a business and we need to generate certain amount of profit to stay in business, but we are not out there to rip people off. I strongly disagree with WRXSIG that we purposely hold off posting the price just so that we can make more money !
anyone that is in the production / wholesale business know that price are driven by quantity order ! Simple reason is that the molding charge and production cost can be spread out !!
Unit price for 50 pieces is very different from unit price for 1000 pieces !!! As far as pricing wise, i think we have been very fair in this community. Yes, we are a business and we need to generate certain amount of profit to stay in business, but we are not out there to rip people off. I strongly disagree with WRXSIG that we purposely hold off posting the price just so that we can make more money !
| Handsdown | 09-25-2006 10:11 PM |
[QUOTE=WebMasterP;15381579]I would buy some if it worked with my in-car mirror control motors.[/QUOTE]
i'm sensing a huge division in the consumer base here.
i'm proposing:
CF no-holds-barred motorized electric mirrors to rival ganador and OEM mirrors
[i]and...[/i]
plastic/fiberglass/cf no frills manual mirrors at a lower price that would actually emulate the WRC mirrors- aerodynamic, lightweight, and cost effective. if you could offer these at a third the cost of OEM mirrors(a reasonable goal), you'd have a product that could blow the ebay mirrors out of the water.
i'm assuming the production model will be a hybrid of these two models, CF, race inspired, manual, no luxuries, but priced at a reputable sum that will provide an alternative to ganador or other costly aftermarket JDM options.
unfortunately a costly model like the aforementioned will most likely lose the consumer base that wants luxury(motor drive and electrical compatibility) as well as the WRC enthusiasts who desire a low cost option with more street cred and more reputability and craft than the ebay mirrors.
ebay mirrors are ~$40. i'm fairly confident a manual mirror replica of the WRC mirrors could be manufactured for less than 80 and still turn a profit... any higher and you'll lose business to the ebay companies from your already somewhat limited clientell.
i think i speak for a large portion of the aftermarket consumer community when i say this:
I want a cool product, but if faced with a high price tag I'll look the other way without the slightest hint of regret.
...Much the way I, and many others, did with the announcement of the S204 wing's price.
i'm sensing a huge division in the consumer base here.
i'm proposing:
CF no-holds-barred motorized electric mirrors to rival ganador and OEM mirrors
[i]and...[/i]
plastic/fiberglass/cf no frills manual mirrors at a lower price that would actually emulate the WRC mirrors- aerodynamic, lightweight, and cost effective. if you could offer these at a third the cost of OEM mirrors(a reasonable goal), you'd have a product that could blow the ebay mirrors out of the water.
i'm assuming the production model will be a hybrid of these two models, CF, race inspired, manual, no luxuries, but priced at a reputable sum that will provide an alternative to ganador or other costly aftermarket JDM options.
unfortunately a costly model like the aforementioned will most likely lose the consumer base that wants luxury(motor drive and electrical compatibility) as well as the WRC enthusiasts who desire a low cost option with more street cred and more reputability and craft than the ebay mirrors.
ebay mirrors are ~$40. i'm fairly confident a manual mirror replica of the WRC mirrors could be manufactured for less than 80 and still turn a profit... any higher and you'll lose business to the ebay companies from your already somewhat limited clientell.
i think i speak for a large portion of the aftermarket consumer community when i say this:
I want a cool product, but if faced with a high price tag I'll look the other way without the slightest hint of regret.
...Much the way I, and many others, did with the announcement of the S204 wing's price.
| RavSpec | 09-25-2006 10:13 PM |
As for fiber glass version, yes, it's possible to make , just use fiber glass material instead of carbon fiber !!
| WRXSIG | 09-25-2006 10:15 PM |
[QUOTE=RavSpec;15381767] I strongly disagree with WRXSIG[/QUOTE]
west coast cover up.
in all seriousness...count me in though:)
west coast cover up.
in all seriousness...count me in though:)
| reallyslow | 09-25-2006 10:17 PM |
i am interested x 10
| buzz367 | 09-25-2006 10:21 PM |
maybe if they werent cf
| Sti_ck_IT | 09-25-2006 10:26 PM |
all i can say is SICK... extremely interested...
| Handsdown | 09-25-2006 10:27 PM |
[QUOTE=RavSpec;15381767]hey guys:
anyone that is in the production / wholesale business know that price are driven by quantity order ! Simple reason is that the molding charge and production cost can be spread out !!
Unit price for 50 pieces is very different from unit price for 1000 pieces !!! As far as pricing wise, i think we have been very fair in this community. Yes, we are a business and we need to generate certain amount of profit to stay in business, but we are not out there to rip people off. I strongly disagree with WRXSIG that we purposely hold off posting the price just so that we can make more money ![/QUOTE]
i agree, WRXSIG's comment was cynical, unfounded and pretty ridiculous.
however, if you make a well priced 1000 run, [i]they will sell.[/i]
when WRXSIG spoke about 'making a quick buck', i think he was pointing to a larger context...
when a vendor is faced with a decision of 50 vs. 1000 (or some other number) with the profits equalizing out, that decision has to do with entrepreneurship vs. commitment to the enthusiast community...
if you keep making a very few quality products, people will swear by them... but only a small percent will have them and only a small percent will hear about them.
companies like Cusco and Perrin don't get their reputations by serving a small number of excited customers, they make good quality products priced at a resonable and competitive sum that allows them to be purchased by many thousands of customers internationally.
realistically, you're not going to have a choice of $50 per unit and have to move a volume to the tune of 1000 vs. a model run of 50 or a 100 at $300 a unit...
but if you can provide a quality product to 1000 people, you'll be remembered and reputed for it. what WRXSIG means to ask, what are you really committed to... pleasing the most enthusiasts, or pleasing your company's short term success?
anyone that is in the production / wholesale business know that price are driven by quantity order ! Simple reason is that the molding charge and production cost can be spread out !!
Unit price for 50 pieces is very different from unit price for 1000 pieces !!! As far as pricing wise, i think we have been very fair in this community. Yes, we are a business and we need to generate certain amount of profit to stay in business, but we are not out there to rip people off. I strongly disagree with WRXSIG that we purposely hold off posting the price just so that we can make more money ![/QUOTE]
i agree, WRXSIG's comment was cynical, unfounded and pretty ridiculous.
however, if you make a well priced 1000 run, [i]they will sell.[/i]
when WRXSIG spoke about 'making a quick buck', i think he was pointing to a larger context...
when a vendor is faced with a decision of 50 vs. 1000 (or some other number) with the profits equalizing out, that decision has to do with entrepreneurship vs. commitment to the enthusiast community...
if you keep making a very few quality products, people will swear by them... but only a small percent will have them and only a small percent will hear about them.
companies like Cusco and Perrin don't get their reputations by serving a small number of excited customers, they make good quality products priced at a resonable and competitive sum that allows them to be purchased by many thousands of customers internationally.
realistically, you're not going to have a choice of $50 per unit and have to move a volume to the tune of 1000 vs. a model run of 50 or a 100 at $300 a unit...
but if you can provide a quality product to 1000 people, you'll be remembered and reputed for it. what WRXSIG means to ask, what are you really committed to... pleasing the most enthusiasts, or pleasing your company's short term success?
| AWDBST | 09-25-2006 10:29 PM |
I am definately in for a set. I know of 3 others that would be in for some too.
| wrxguy182 | 09-25-2006 10:36 PM |
[QUOTE=Handsdown;15382000]i agree, WRXSIG's comment was cynical, unfounded and pretty ridiculous.
however, if you make a well priced 1000 run, [i]they will sell.[/i]
when WRXSIG spoke about 'making a quick buck', i think he was pointing to a larger context...
when a vendor is faced with a decision of 50 vs. 1000 (or some other number) with the profits equalizing out, that decision has to do with entrepreneurship vs. commitment to the enthusiast community...
if you keep making a very few quality products, people will swear by them... but only a small percent will have them and only a small percent will hear about them.
companies like Cusco and Perrin don't get their reputations by serving a small number of excited customers, they make good quality products priced at a resonable and competitive sum that allows them to be purchased by many thousands of customers internationally.
realistically, you're not going to have a choice of $50 per unit and have to move a volume to the tune of 1000 vs. a model run of 50 or a 100 at $300 a unit...
but if you can provide a quality product to 1000 people, you'll be remembered and reputed for it. what WRXSIG means to ask, what are you really committed to... pleasing the most enthusiasts, or pleasing your company's short term success?[/QUOTE]
no, I'm sure he wants to go out of business just so he can please the minority car guy.
however, if you make a well priced 1000 run, [i]they will sell.[/i]
when WRXSIG spoke about 'making a quick buck', i think he was pointing to a larger context...
when a vendor is faced with a decision of 50 vs. 1000 (or some other number) with the profits equalizing out, that decision has to do with entrepreneurship vs. commitment to the enthusiast community...
if you keep making a very few quality products, people will swear by them... but only a small percent will have them and only a small percent will hear about them.
companies like Cusco and Perrin don't get their reputations by serving a small number of excited customers, they make good quality products priced at a resonable and competitive sum that allows them to be purchased by many thousands of customers internationally.
realistically, you're not going to have a choice of $50 per unit and have to move a volume to the tune of 1000 vs. a model run of 50 or a 100 at $300 a unit...
but if you can provide a quality product to 1000 people, you'll be remembered and reputed for it. what WRXSIG means to ask, what are you really committed to... pleasing the most enthusiasts, or pleasing your company's short term success?[/QUOTE]
no, I'm sure he wants to go out of business just so he can please the minority car guy.
| RavSpec | 09-25-2006 10:46 PM |
Handsdown:
it's always a constant struggle price vs quality. You get what you pay for. Yea, I can probably make something that is worth $80, with the cheapest possible material, cutting quality to justify cost. Let say i sell 100 sets and make $30 per set, that give us $3000 in profit.
Now i have to deal with warranty, unsatisfy customer asking for return, ruined our name in the community for $3000 ... it's just not worth it !
I can pretty sure it will not be under $100. Of course we will try to be do lower than Granador pricing, but as of now, i can't quote any price until we figure out the total molding cost, production cost, material cost and shipping cost..
It's too much factor involve to just call out a pricing , that is not how production, manfuacturing and wholesale work.
We will try our best to cut the cost down to an acceptable range and offer a special pricing for those who are willing to put in a deposit for us to use as investment to produce and develop the products.
it's always a constant struggle price vs quality. You get what you pay for. Yea, I can probably make something that is worth $80, with the cheapest possible material, cutting quality to justify cost. Let say i sell 100 sets and make $30 per set, that give us $3000 in profit.
Now i have to deal with warranty, unsatisfy customer asking for return, ruined our name in the community for $3000 ... it's just not worth it !
I can pretty sure it will not be under $100. Of course we will try to be do lower than Granador pricing, but as of now, i can't quote any price until we figure out the total molding cost, production cost, material cost and shipping cost..
It's too much factor involve to just call out a pricing , that is not how production, manfuacturing and wholesale work.
We will try our best to cut the cost down to an acceptable range and offer a special pricing for those who are willing to put in a deposit for us to use as investment to produce and develop the products.
| JeffrWRX | 09-25-2006 10:50 PM |
sounds interesting...i'd be down. as long as they are not 400+
| Dforce | 09-25-2006 11:03 PM |
or 300+
:lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol:
| BurtonCR | 09-25-2006 11:03 PM |
You guys are crazy. Ebay mirrors are priced so low because the manufacturer uses the same mold for 20+ different cars (just change out the base). Even at 1000 units this is a 'low volume' part compared to ebay mirrors.
I guaruntee you'll never see a quality mirror for less than $200. APR makes what I consider a bare bones mirror and that is still over $200. Again, those are made for 5-10 different cars (different bases).
My bet right now is $350 for full carbon and $275 for fiberglass and thatll be manual versions. And those prices would be a deal.
I guaruntee you'll never see a quality mirror for less than $200. APR makes what I consider a bare bones mirror and that is still over $200. Again, those are made for 5-10 different cars (different bases).
My bet right now is $350 for full carbon and $275 for fiberglass and thatll be manual versions. And those prices would be a deal.
| Handsdown | 09-25-2006 11:15 PM |
i think people missed what i was trying to say.
speculation on price is useless now because it's only going to turn people away.
if enough people turn away, you'll be looking at a $500 set of mirrors. which is awesome, if you're a rich idiot with no sense of morality. there are far better ways to spend that kind of money. on the other hand, if they were less than OEM mirrors, that could make sense for people like me that HAVE A BROKEN MIRROR.
i'm not asking for a cheap and crappy product, i'm asking for a price that is justifiable.
the idea of a quality $80 mirror isn't impossible, it's just not likely given the nature of the market.
all I was saying is that i'm not going to be interested if they rival the prices of APR and Ganador or whatever, and that's something to think about. sounds like it's already been thought about- have fun with your mirrors, i sincerely hope everyone likes them.
speculation on price is useless now because it's only going to turn people away.
if enough people turn away, you'll be looking at a $500 set of mirrors. which is awesome, if you're a rich idiot with no sense of morality. there are far better ways to spend that kind of money. on the other hand, if they were less than OEM mirrors, that could make sense for people like me that HAVE A BROKEN MIRROR.
i'm not asking for a cheap and crappy product, i'm asking for a price that is justifiable.
the idea of a quality $80 mirror isn't impossible, it's just not likely given the nature of the market.
all I was saying is that i'm not going to be interested if they rival the prices of APR and Ganador or whatever, and that's something to think about. sounds like it's already been thought about- have fun with your mirrors, i sincerely hope everyone likes them.
| WTillIDIE | 09-25-2006 11:35 PM |
i need new mirrors i like EM
| lulala_sti | 09-25-2006 11:47 PM |
in a for a non cf set :)
| shortyswrx | 09-26-2006 12:43 AM |
+1 for non cf mirrors
| RavSpec | 09-26-2006 11:22 AM |
look like alot of people are into the non-cf mirror ! will definitely make that available !
| wrxxxrated | 09-26-2006 11:40 AM |
I'm in.
| EarlQHan | 09-26-2006 12:10 PM |
Would this be manually adjusted or would you be able to adjust the mirrors with the switch? I would rather be able to adjust them with the switch and I assume others would also. I would assume most people buying these would still have their mirrors and would be buying this purely based on look. So, I'm sure they would like to keep their dailiy driveability also. I don't believe anyone outside a sponsored race team would buy these for weight saving and aerodynamic purposes, the theoretical cost of 300 could be better spent elsewhere.
For those who complain about paying 300, L'aunsport mirrors retail for 800 so I'm sure anything will be cheaper than that. I'm also sure this will be another fine product from RavSpec.
Yes, he could make 1000, but that would be very capital intensive and he would eventually be able to sell them, but I highly doubt he'd sell all 1000 of them within a month or even 3. So how would it be useful if they had a couple hundred mirrors sitting in the warehouse and no money left to start a new mold on a new product?
For those who complain about paying 300, L'aunsport mirrors retail for 800 so I'm sure anything will be cheaper than that. I'm also sure this will be another fine product from RavSpec.
Yes, he could make 1000, but that would be very capital intensive and he would eventually be able to sell them, but I highly doubt he'd sell all 1000 of them within a month or even 3. So how would it be useful if they had a couple hundred mirrors sitting in the warehouse and no money left to start a new mold on a new product?
| themarxist | 09-26-2006 02:17 PM |
I'd rock it.
| Handsdown | 09-26-2006 02:29 PM |
^you're not a marxist:lol:
and of course they wouldn't sell all at once, but they would all sell if priced so that even the average WRC fan could get a pair. storing products for sale is part of the business.
and of course they wouldn't sell all at once, but they would all sell if priced so that even the average WRC fan could get a pair. storing products for sale is part of the business.
| fireball_jones | 09-26-2006 02:32 PM |
I like the CF ones. But what's the visibility difference... I'm sure the rally car drivers aren't checking them very often :p
| hornyturbo | 09-26-2006 03:48 PM |
i'll be down for a CF set
| coolblue05 | 09-26-2006 04:09 PM |
I like the cf version, pending price of course.
| BurtonCR | 09-26-2006 04:17 PM |
[QUOTE=Handsdown;15390155]storing products for sale is part of the business.[/QUOTE]
Not a very profitable one. Keeping stock = lost money. I doubt there is much of a 'lost profit' penalty when a specialty item is out of stock. Niche market consumers will always wait.
Not a very profitable one. Keeping stock = lost money. I doubt there is much of a 'lost profit' penalty when a specialty item is out of stock. Niche market consumers will always wait.
| bigworm | 09-26-2006 04:39 PM |
would they be electric? im in for non cf if they are
| themarxist | 09-26-2006 04:58 PM |
[QUOTE=fireball_jones;15390202]I like the CF ones. But what's the visibility difference... I'm sure the rally car drivers aren't checking them very often :p[/QUOTE]
Yea, that's a pretty legit question that nobody's asked yet...how well do they do what they're supposed to do? Are they going to be convex lenses like other small ones or flat ones like the stockers? How's the field of view?
PS I definitely want mine in teh Carbawn.
Yea, that's a pretty legit question that nobody's asked yet...how well do they do what they're supposed to do? Are they going to be convex lenses like other small ones or flat ones like the stockers? How's the field of view?
PS I definitely want mine in teh Carbawn.
| pleue | 09-26-2006 05:54 PM |
looks nice, i'd prefer a replica set of safari mirrors though
| LastResort | 09-26-2006 06:05 PM |
I'm curious about a final price.
| japakazol | 09-26-2006 07:11 PM |
Carbon Fiber Mirrors
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I would be intersted especially since I have a carbon fiber hood. I don't adjust my mirrors all that often so these should be copacetic. I would pay extra for power mirrors though. Please post more pictures and PM me when there is an actual price. This is a cool item!
| Kenji815 | 09-26-2006 07:44 PM |
how about non-CF mirror?
| BLACK02WAGON | 09-26-2006 07:49 PM |
I would be interested in the carbon fiber ones
| Bad Wagon | 09-26-2006 08:49 PM |
Those look really nice. You going to make the rally mirrors with the fogs in them next?
Johann
Johann
| RavSpec | 09-26-2006 10:27 PM |
nothing plan yet for the rally mirror with the fogs..
yes, we are thinking about making them in non-cf for lower pricing !!
yes, we are thinking about making them in non-cf for lower pricing !!
| shortyswrx | 09-26-2006 10:54 PM |
i'd be more interested in the ones with fogs on them.
| stitremen2 | 09-26-2006 10:58 PM |
sign me up too ........
| BlackSnake | 09-26-2006 11:05 PM |
Im also interested
| h_p | 09-26-2006 11:30 PM |
im in on a set
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