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How to paint your stock wheels part 8

yellow03rex 05-13-2009 03:51 AM

thanks i fell in love with the gloss black everyone has flat black and wanted me to do it but i resisted ha!
02wrxRally 05-13-2009 03:31 PM

[quote=05wrx09;26698878]I learned the hard way guys, but if you don't mind spending time and money painting your wheels only to have them look this (see below) when they put new tires on then be my guest. If you are just using them as say seasonal winter wheels, that's fine too. But it doesn't matter how much prepping you do, how much cleaning and sanding and priming and coating and clear coating, the tire shop is going to murderalize them. Do I wish I just spent the extra $ and had my wheels powder-coated? Yes, I do. Very much.


And trust me, NO they did not look like that when I got done painting them. I did a good job. Now it looks like a 3-year old painted my wheels.[/quote]

I painted mine without tires on, and had no problem when my shop mounted them. They used a ton of lube (edge of tire and wheel had a lot of white crap on them when I picked the car up) but NO CHIPS. I let the paint dry a week before taking them in to have the tires mounted, and I didn't go nuts with tons of coats of paint either - 3 primer, 3 color, 3 clear. Wren at Golf Crawford auto did a good gentle job mounting I guess. Thanks buddy.
asaturn 05-13-2009 05:14 PM

the key is prepping them and baking the paint properly so it actually cures. this means QUALITY paint (not from a rattle can) and QUALITY clearcoat that is mixed properly.

then when you get the tires mounted, don't have a high school student working at wal-mart oil and lube express do it... they'll scratch factory paint.

there is NO NEED to get things powder coated when the wheels you're dealing with cost less than the powder coating. just do it right. take the tires off and prep the wheels and use GOOD paint.
J-Rod 555 05-13-2009 05:21 PM

Here is my car with the updated wheels...next I'm going to black out the badging.

[IMG]http://p1.pinkbike.com/photo/3419/pbpic3419165.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://p1.pinkbike.com/photo/3419/pbpic3419162.jpg[/IMG]
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blueb3 05-13-2009 05:50 PM

some good looking wheels in here. I did two sets on my old legacy, both with a restoleum, heavy flake bronze. My Fozzy will get the treatment this summer (hopefully)

[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blueb3/IMG_0058.jpg[/IMG]

and

[IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/blueb3/wheels012.jpg[/IMG]

(throwaway tires FTW!)
Wagonkenny 05-13-2009 05:54 PM

[quote=d0ugch0i;26655176]powdercoat also cost like 10x the amount of money.[quote]


Nah not really! There is a local place here in Wisconsin that does them for $65 each wheel! :eek:
02wrxRally 05-14-2009 04:05 PM

[quote=Wagonkenny;26716052][quote=d0ugch0i;26655176]powdercoat also cost like 10x the amount of money.[quote]


Nah not really! There is a local place here in Wisconsin that does them for $65 each wheel! :eek:[/quote]

um, $260 is a lot more than $25. And if you do the math, that's "like 10x the amount of money":eek:
J-Rod 555 05-14-2009 10:19 PM

[quote=02wrxRally;26728525][quote=Wagonkenny;26716052][quote=d0ugch0i;26655176]powdercoat also cost like 10x the amount of money.

um, $260 is a lot more than $25. And if you do the math, that's "like 10x the amount of money":eek:[/quote]

lol....really I actually laughed out loud....
Un0RiGiNaL 05-14-2009 10:20 PM

hahaha

mind = blown
imprezaowner27 05-14-2009 10:29 PM

[quote=Un0RiGiNaL;26732617]hahaha

mind = blown[/quote]

hahahahaha i laughed
Wagonkenny 05-18-2009 01:15 PM

[/quote]
um, $260 is a lot more than $25. And if you do the math, that's "like 10x the amount of money":eek:[/quote]


You go ahead then and just rattle can them then, we'll see how long they last. I'd rather have them look the same as a brand new wheel and be just as durable.
05wrx09 05-18-2009 01:18 PM

[quote=Wagonkenny;26762961][/quote]
um, $260 is a lot more than $25. And if you do the math, that's "like 10x the amount of money":eek:[/quote]


You go ahead then and just rattle can them then, we'll see how long they last. I'd rather have them look the same as a brand new wheel and be just as durable.[/QUOTE]

+1
asaturn 05-18-2009 01:30 PM

rattlecan can work if you use quality clearcoat (aka NOT from a rattlecan)

like I said above 99% is in the prep you do.

if you paint them, a local bodyshop will probably clearcoat them really cheap and bake them for you if you have the tires off.
Wagonkenny 05-18-2009 01:35 PM

All I was getting at was that $65 a wheel for powdercoat is very cheap! 3 times stronger than paint too.
asaturn 05-18-2009 02:19 PM

yeah but I'd only powdercoat some nice wheels...

powdercoating some used 16" stock legacy wheels you got on craigslist for $20 each = waste of money.
Wagonkenny 05-18-2009 03:43 PM

Dropping off my EDM's tonight for powdercoat (gold) ;)
neat-0-wrx 05-18-2009 03:58 PM

[quote=asaturn;26763828]yeah but I'd only powdercoat some nice wheels...

powdercoating some used 16" stock legacy wheels you got on craigslist for $20 each = waste of money.[/quote]

most nice wheels are not able to be powder coated, because they are made of material that reacts poorly to the extreem heat of being baked during the powder coat process...

and as long as it looks good, its always worth it...
05wrx09 05-18-2009 05:34 PM

[quote=Wagonkenny;26764961]Dropping off my EDM's tonight for powdercoat (gold) ;)[/quote]


You should shoot some before/after pics, or at least get some pics of them up here once they're done. How much are they doing it for? Here they quoted me $400 for a set of 4 wheels. I think flat black would look sick powder coated. A lot better than my slop job.
Wagonkenny 05-18-2009 06:52 PM

[quote=05wrx09;26766143]You should shoot some before/after pics, or at least get some pics of them up here once they're done. How much are they doing it for? Here they quoted me $400 for a set of 4 wheels. I think flat black would look sick powder coated. A lot better than my slop job.[/quote]


stripped, prepped, primed, powdercoated, and cleared for $65 each wheel.
And yes, I will post pics afterward.
Wagonkenny 05-18-2009 06:56 PM

most nice wheels are not able to be powder coated, because they are made of material that reacts poorly to the extreem heat of being baked during the powder coat process...


The temp. that the wheels are baked at is only 400 degrees. No good for plastic parts but no problem for aluminum........thick aluminum BEGINS to melt at 900-1000 degrees.
02wrxRally 05-18-2009 07:41 PM

Like I said originally, cost of 4 used wheels and paint < price to mount the tires


and my winter/summer swap just got a lot easier.
Wagonkenny 05-18-2009 08:26 PM

I will post pics here when they are done.........to be continued:popcorn:
JayNutz 05-18-2009 08:29 PM

wow !!!! funny stuff
05wrx09 05-18-2009 10:27 PM

[quote=Wagonkenny;26767040]stripped, prepped, primed, powdercoated, and cleared for $65 each wheel.
And yes, I will post pics afterward.[/quote]

That's a stellar deal. Here it's $100 per tire for me. What's the turn around time on your deal, 1 week?
rexrook 05-26-2009 10:25 PM

so I painted my rims and 2 of them are messed up
1 has drips and the other has a different color paint from painting the inside

I waited 24 hours, then wet sanded with 1000 grit
I plan to then repaint them and then clear coat

Was this ok? or will I run into any issues with the paint later?
05wrx09 05-26-2009 11:28 PM

[quote=Wagonkenny;26768082]I will post pics here when they are done.........to be continued:popcorn:[/quote]

Pics man, pics! I'm stoked to seem some good powdercoating to make me want to go get mine done ;)
criscross79 05-27-2009 08:54 PM

[quote=rexrook;26857311]so I painted my rims and 2 of them are messed up
1 has drips and the other has a different color paint from painting the inside

I waited 24 hours, then wet sanded with 1000 grit
I plan to then repaint them and then clear coat

Was this ok? or will I run into any issues with the paint later?[/quote]

You should be fine ... as long as you can sand out the drips

Chris
Wagonkenny 05-27-2009 09:50 PM

[quote=05wrx09;26858034]Pics man, pics! I'm stoked to seem some good powdercoating to make me want to go get mine done ;)[/quote]


[SIZE=3]Last minute I ended up going with silver as the color......but they turned out VERY nice!![/SIZE]

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Wagonkenny 05-27-2009 09:57 PM

Before pics:

[IMG]http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j155/steve_scottMTB/0429091343a.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j155/steve_scottMTB/0429091343a.jpg[/IMG]


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White064EAT 07-03-2009 02:17 PM

curious, how long does the duplicolor paint take to dry until you can safely drive on it..
LegendaryHarry 07-03-2009 03:31 PM

it should say on the can "until completely dry"

I give it at least that time. could be a whole 24 hours.
GLrunner13 07-21-2009 11:44 AM

So I have been thinking of doing this lately. How hard would it be to take off the paint if I don't like it? Can I just wet sand it and have it look like normal again?

Thanks!
altezza2impreza 07-21-2009 12:18 PM

[quote=GLrunner13;27499424]So I have been thinking of doing this lately. How hard would it be to take off the paint if I don't like it? Can I just wet sand it and have it look like normal again?

Thanks![/quote]

airplane paint remover i think. they have something like that at autozone that completely strips your wheels.
boostdog 07-21-2009 02:40 PM

yup just use some stripper either in a spray can or use a brush to apply it. comes right off.
criscross79 07-21-2009 05:06 PM

If you use paint stripper it will also remove the paint from the factory as well .. your best bet is to just paint over the new color with the stock color

Chris
GLrunner13 07-22-2009 10:42 AM

[quote=criscross79;27504091]If you use paint stripper it will also remove the paint from the factory as well .. your best bet is to just paint over the new color with the stock color

Chris[/quote]

The wheels are painted from the factory? I guess I'm kind of surprised at this and would have thought the stock alloy was just its natural color and polished/shined up or whatever.
altezza2impreza 07-22-2009 11:24 AM

nope. its some nasty crap that they put on from the factory. funny how it stays on when your taking it off but if you like it, it tends to scrape and fall off. i would just completely remove it and start from scratch. they do sell a stock looking color.
down_for_the_scooby 08-23-2009 06:35 AM

[quote=Wagonkenny;26870779]Before pics:

[IMG]http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j155/steve_scottMTB/0429091343a.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j155/steve_scottMTB/0429091343a.jpg[/IMG]


[IMG]http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j155/steve_scottMTB/0428091615b.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j155/steve_scottMTB/0428091615a.jpg[/IMG][/quote]


Wow, I never would have guessed what your wheels would have looked in silver. :rolleyes:
Loki2x 09-03-2009 11:34 AM

So, I just started cleaning and sanding the wheels I am going to paint. I had a few questions:

Does anyone know if you have to sand all the original paint off completely or do you just have to rough it up so that the primer will stick?

Do I need etching primer or will the standard gray Duplicolor sandable primer work?

What did people do with the back inside part of the wheel? Do people paint that too or just leave it? Mine have almost a decade of grease and dirt caked on.
criscross79 09-03-2009 11:32 PM

[quote=Loki2x;28006627]So, I just started cleaning and sanding the wheels I am going to paint. I had a few questions:

Does anyone know if you have to sand all the original paint off completely or do you just have to rough it up so that the primer will stick?

Do I need etching primer or will the standard gray Duplicolor sandable primer work?

What did people do with the back inside part of the wheel? Do people paint that too or just leave it? Mine have almost a decade of grease and dirt caked on.[/quote]

I just rough the paint up, you just need a surface that the primer will grip too.

I have used just standard primer with no issues

Some people paint the insides of the wheels. I don't .. Currently my wheels are bright blue and you can't tell unless you look close whether they are painted on the inside or not

[IMG]http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p199/criscross79/WRX/20090517_0001_Small.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p199/criscross79/WRX/20090517_0013_Small.jpg[/IMG]

Chris
Loki2x 09-04-2009 07:52 AM

^ Thanks. I got some of that paint that turns rust to primer, so my plan now is to spray the back with that stuff and the front with the regular primer. I'll take pics as I go and post them when I'm done.
Loki2x 09-05-2009 09:46 PM

all done! :D

3 cans of primer
3 cans of paint
1 can of clear coat

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bc_hawkeye 09-06-2009 08:15 PM

how many jacks did you guys use to get all 4 wheels off the car? im having a hard time finding the right jacks at autozone and i'm trying to paint my wheels before the good weather goes away :(
IIdiceII 09-06-2009 08:19 PM

4 jackstands.
bc_hawkeye 09-06-2009 09:03 PM

[quote=IIdiceII;28040193]4 jackstands.[/quote]

wasn't to sure if that was safe, but if it worked for you it'll work for me :)
wtfh4xx 09-07-2009 12:01 AM

How is 4 jackstands not safe?
4 two ton props holding up my car is alot safer than a one billion ton jack.
Why? Jacks are a hydraulic piece of equipment prone to fail.
Solid steel will not.
mickeyfay 09-22-2009 10:46 PM

is sandable primer bad to use?
asaturn 09-22-2009 11:52 PM

no

basically the most important part is the clearcoat

you want a durable clearcoat otherwise the paint will chip off
Chaser Aero 09-23-2009 12:55 PM

Need pics of the green wheels...
Loki2x 11-12-2009 07:59 AM

Updating with pics on the car

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DoN_WoN 11-12-2009 08:16 AM

What about powdercoat? I'm getting a new wrx and want to have darker rims, it's a little more expensive but I don't wanna mess up. How would I powdercoat??
Wrxfeen11236 11-12-2009 05:12 PM

Question i was thnkin bout doin the same to my stock rims on my 97 outback but i just wanted to kno the steps like is it the color first thenclear coat idk how you do that and how much did everything cost?
asaturn 11-12-2009 05:17 PM

sand/prep wheels

primer (some skip this step...) -- use a primer that corresponds with your final coat -- for dark colors use black, for light colors use grey or white

sand down the primer to get out any imperfections/runs/etc

top coat of whatever color -- do at least 2-3 coats and separate the coats by at least an hour

allow at least 4 hours to "dry" before moving the wheels

let the wheels bake in the sun (if possible) for as long as possible...

then clearcoat and repeat the baking/setting process

if you don't clearcoat, the paint will just fall off
dking051 11-21-2009 02:07 AM

winter rims painted
[IMG]http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/dking051/IMG_6730.jpg[/IMG] stock wheel [IMG]http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/dking051/IMG_6731.jpg[/IMG] sanded down and cleaned [IMG]http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/dking051/IMG_6733.jpg[/IMG] primer [IMG]http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/dking051/IMG_6734.jpg[/IMG] green lip painted [IMG]http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/dking051/IMG_6739.jpg[/IMG] lip taped off and black painted over [IMG]http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/dking051/IMG_6740.jpg[/IMG] final product...took all day...but was a fun project...pics of them on the car soon...
blukestrel 11-22-2009 09:46 PM

hmmm, I used the duplicolor gold engine enamel, figuring it would be tougher. Unfortunately it got too cold AND humid, so I stopped at wheel one. It is less of a bright yellowy gold than some folks, more bronzy, which I'm liking.
Tr1llee 11-29-2009 10:07 PM

[quote=Loki2x;28805963]Updating with pics on the car

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is that gunmetal?
Loki2x 11-30-2009 07:25 PM

^ Duplicolor Graphite
hqp921 12-04-2009 02:18 PM

Painted mine:

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- HP
Alex Germain 12-04-2009 02:29 PM

I just painted my kosei (wanna be enkei's) bbs sti gold... looks good.. you guys gotta use HVLP.. MUCH better results especially after clear coating them... very pleased with color!
adizzle02 12-04-2009 02:51 PM

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