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I just like saying "Lisbon" - Rally Portugal Starts March 30! part 1

WagonMonster 03-26-2007 10:39 AM

I just like saying "Lisbon" - Rally Portugal Starts March 30!
IBLOEBWINSIT

:banana:
WagonMonster 03-26-2007 10:41 AM

Wow, that was fast!
WRXedUSA 03-26-2007 10:45 AM

IBhalfthestagesarecancelled
Weasel 555 03-26-2007 11:08 AM

fansonthestageslineduplikeporkncheeselemmings














.
well back after been off the schedule for 6yrs , definitely a tough rally,lets hope the over-enthusiastic fans dont spoil it again!.

Recce : From Tuesday 27 March to Wednesday 28 March

Shakedown : Thursday 29 March from 08h00 to 13h30

Leg 1 : Friday 30 March : 7 stages (122.79 Km)
Leg 2 : Saturday 31 March : 6 stages (152.92 Km)
Leg 3 : Sunday 1 April : 5 stages (81.39 Km)

[url]http://www.rally-live.com/wrc/en/index.shtml[/url]
[url]http://www.crash.net/home~cid~4.htm[/url]
[url]www.swrt.com[/url]
runnah 03-26-2007 01:04 PM

This will be a close rally. Since it hasn't been run in 5 years alot of the top dogs like Gronholm and Loeb haven't run it and will be using new pace notes.

Some of the younger guys like Sordo and Carlssan did the rally last year so they will have the advantage.

And we've seen what happens to Loeb when he is running new notes.

Go SWRT!
XenoWolf 03-26-2007 01:21 PM

[img]http://wuzzadem.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/cbgbk.jpg[/img]

"Worst WRC thread title... EVER!"
OBShahn 03-26-2007 04:40 PM

Duval and Munchis are withdrawn.

The Companc's have been called to Miami due to the injurry of a loved one at the IRL race. Doctor's requested family so the Munchis drivers are out.

Duval sounds like they are saying they didn't feel comfortable with the lack of testing they had done. Sounds more like, First Motorsport, took on sponsors without taking and making sure the check cleared before putting them on the car and they are struggling for cash again.



And my thread title was much better and more humerous. (PS props to WM for helping rallies out in his own special way in the US!)
Slick33 03-26-2007 04:41 PM

Go Mikko! :)
RALLYT-WRX 03-26-2007 09:12 PM

Go Pett..... no wait he'll probably hit a rock, again. Go Chri....... no wait he'll break too. Go .........?




Screw it I hope Loeb ends up in a ditch.....
ScoobyBoy 03-26-2007 10:15 PM

im just hoping solberg will just finish this race.
cmpequeno 03-27-2007 03:29 AM

I'm just hoping the fans behave and the wrc returns next year :D :D
Weasel 555 03-27-2007 08:42 AM

[QUOTE=cmpequeno;17499255]I'm just hoping the fans behave and the wrc returns next year :D :D[/QUOTE]

me too +1
RenMaxi 03-27-2007 05:15 PM

Did anyone notice mat johnsons name on the entry list cool. oh by the way my money is on the local portuguese driver armindo araujo.
OBShahn 03-27-2007 05:41 PM

[QUOTE=RenMaxi;17505015]Did anyone notice mat johnsons name on the entry list cool[/QUOTE]


Where did you see this?

Neither of the places I checked entry lists included Johnston.
XenoWolf 03-27-2007 06:48 PM

[url="http://www.rallydeportugal.pt/suporte/documentos/%7B821793807-20070307-170319%7D_LISTA_DE_INSCRITOS_OFICIAL_Final.pdf"]Official Entry List[/url]

Sorry, no MJ.
OBShahn 03-27-2007 06:57 PM

[QUOTE=XenoWolf;17506254][url="http://www.rallydeportugal.pt/suporte/documentos/%7B821793807-20070307-170319%7D_LISTA_DE_INSCRITOS_OFICIAL_Final.pdf"]Official Entry List[/url]

Sorry, no MJ.[/QUOTE]


I would have been less surprised had the entry had Matt Johnston, but yeah, no 'mericans, on the list.
RenMaxi 03-28-2007 08:05 AM

i saw it on the official website [url]www.rallydeportugal.pt
OBShahn 03-28-2007 01:55 PM

[QUOTE=RenMaxi;17512174]i saw it on the official website [url]www.rallydeportugal.pt[/QUOTE]



Where on the official site, seeing as that is where I and XenoWolf looked after you posted...
pete_falcone 03-28-2007 02:22 PM

IBcursetheasshatswhothrowrocksatthecompetitors

Let's hope nothing serious breaks on the new car.
Swanny07 03-28-2007 02:57 PM

I'm stepping in for RenMaxi (he's right here). Here's proof.

[IMG]http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a251/theswann07/RallyPortugal.jpg[/IMG]
LastResort 03-28-2007 03:02 PM

I'm taking opening bets for stage and minute before Petter gets a DNF.


I'll go with 5th stage, 3 minutes, 12 seconds.
OBShahn 03-28-2007 04:13 PM

[QUOTE=Swanny07;17517527]I'm stepping in for RenMaxi (he's right here). Here's proof.

[IMG]http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a251/theswann07/RallyPortugal.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]




Interesting.

The official final entry list, [url]http://www.rallydeportugal.pt/prog/documento.php?documento_id=34&fazer=abrir&MIT=3645[/url]
shows no fiesta cup cars or americans.

Infact, Johnston isn't listed in the official Fiest Sporting Cup event preview either.
XenoWolf 03-28-2007 05:23 PM

Ah, Johns[b]t[/b]on (Very different from Matt Johnson, easily confused on paper)! Wow did they ever butcher his name.

God, the Rally Portugal website is so agonizingly slow! Could you have, perhaps, given us a link? It looks like it's from some kind of press release rather than an official entry list, which means it's precision may have been comprimised.

Johnston was planning on running the Fiesta Sporting Trophy last season but had to back out due to money issues. He's not even registered for the championship this year. The championship has no event this weekend, yadda yadda. It looks like it's just some effed up press release information, but I'd like a link to verify for myself.
10th Warrior 03-29-2007 10:37 AM

[url]http://www.rally-live.com/wrc/en/headlines/news/detail/070329140451.shtml[/url]
well, that didn't take long.
Slick33 03-29-2007 11:49 AM

[quote]As is the routine, this morning the teams were busy conducting shakedown runs ahead of the first special stage of Rally Portugal that takes place later on today. The 5.10 kilometre shakedown stage saw most competitors completing between two and four runs before heading off to the Algarve Stadium to prepare for the start of the rally proper.

In partly sunny and cloudy conditions the shakedown was compromised by the incident which saw five spectators injured when Armindo Araujo left the road. Fortunately, the injuries whilst undoubtedly very painful, were not life threatening.

Petter Solberg and Chris Atkinson led the way for Subaru as they look to build on their solid pace displayed last time out in Mexico with the new WRC2007. Solberg set the pace on his third run through with a best time of 3:06.0 while on the same run Atkinson was just six-tenths adrift in the sister machine.

Rally Norway winner Mikko Hirvonen was third fastest in his BP Ford Focus ahead of Mexico winner Sebastien Loeb in the Citroen C4 who whilst happy with the initial pace, admitted that the shakedown is not often truly representative of things to come.

Daniel Carlsson was an encouraging fifth fastest in his OMV Kronos Citroen ahead of Marcus Gronholm in the second works Ford entry. Dani Sordo was next up in the second Citroen ahead of Jari-Matti Latvala in the leading Stobart Ford entry. Toni Gardemeister and Manfred Stohl rounded out the top ten.

Rally Portugal Shakedown Times

1 P.Solberg-Mills Subaru Impreza WRC 3'06'0
2 Atkinson-Macneall Subaru Impreza WRC 3'06'6
3 Hirvonen-Lethinen Ford Focus WRC 3'06'7
4 Loeb-Elena Citro�n C4 WRC 3'07'2
5 Carlsson-Giraudet Citro�n Xsara WRC 3'07'4
6 Gr�nholm-Rautiainen Ford Focus WRC 3'07'7
7 Sordo-Marti Citro�n C4 WRC 3'06'8
8 Latvala-Anttila Ford Focus WRC 3'09'5
9 Gardemeister-Honkanen Mitsubishi Lancer WRC 3'11'9
10 Stohl-Minor Citro�n Xsara WRC 3'12'6[/quote]

Something for all you SWRT fans to be happy about. :)

(at least until Petter hits a rock or some live animal)
LastResort 03-29-2007 12:36 PM

He always seems to shakedown in the top 5.
Subaru_555 03-29-2007 02:22 PM

[QUOTE=LastResort;17517590]I'm taking opening bets for stage and minute before Petter gets a DNF.


I'll go with 5th stage, 3 minutes, 12 seconds.[/QUOTE]

I'll be continually waiting until SWRT get back to their winning ways. In time they will.
LastResort 03-29-2007 02:27 PM

So am I. I just don't have a good feeling about this season.
Weasel 555 03-29-2007 05:34 PM

[QUOTE=10th Warrior;17527430][url]http://www.rally-live.com/wrc/en/headlines/news/detail/070329140451.shtml[/url]
well, that didn't take long.[/QUOTE]


shame , hopefully there wont be any more spectator incidents!
WRXedUSA 03-29-2007 05:50 PM

[QUOTE=10th Warrior;17527430][url]http://www.rally-live.com/wrc/en/headlines/news/detail/070329140451.shtml[/url]
well, that didn't take long.[/QUOTE]

:lol:

-chet
Chromer 03-29-2007 06:42 PM

Preview is up, needs more people in the swarm to get it moving:

[url]http://zerotracker.com/download/HTTP/84014/2007.WRC.R05.Portugal.Preview.avi.torrent[/url]
OBShahn 03-29-2007 06:58 PM

[QUOTE=Weasel 555;17533220]shame , hopefully there wont be any more spectator incidents![/QUOTE]




3 of the 5 were supposedly photographers....

Don't know if I would say it is a "typical" rally portugal problem...
vaj 03-29-2007 08:47 PM

[QUOTE=Chromer;17534017]Preview is up, needs more people in the swarm to get it moving:

[url]http://zerotracker.com/download/HTTP/84014/2007.WRC.R05.Portugal.Preview.avi.torrent[/url][/QUOTE]

Thanks for that! Looks like we need more swarmage..
WagonMonster 03-29-2007 08:50 PM

[QUOTE=OBShahn;17534192]3 of the 5 were supposedly photographers....

Don't know if I would say it is a "typical" rally portugal problem...[/QUOTE]
Photographers are disposable.

Right Morgan?


:p
XenoWolf 03-29-2007 11:42 PM

[url]http://videos.sapo.pt/GmkhZLzm8MzCmK0jIqmu[/url]
WRXedUSA 03-30-2007 12:08 AM

[QUOTE=XenoWolf;17537076][url]http://videos.sapo.pt/GmkhZLzm8MzCmK0jIqmu[/url][/QUOTE]

the FIA loves me somathat.
RALLYT-WRX 03-30-2007 08:06 AM

As of SS3

1. Grunholm
2. Loeb +2.6 - +2.6
3. Hirvonen +4.9 - +2.3
4. Solberg +8.8 - +3.9
5. Sordo +33.8 - +25.0
6. Stohl+ 1.00 - +26.5
7. Carlsson +1.02 - +1.7
8. Atkinson +1.08 - +6.7
9. Latvala +1.11 - +2.8
10. Gardemeister +1.20 - +9.0
Weasel 555 03-30-2007 08:44 AM

Overall SS4:

1.Gronholm - Ford - 44'19"9
2.Loeb - C4 - 44'22"5
3.Hirvonen - Ford - 44'24"8
4.P.Solberg - Subaru - 44'28"7
5.Sordo - C4 - 44'53"7
6.Stohl - Xsara - 45'20"2
7.Carlsson - Xsara - 45'21"9
8.Atkinson - Subaru - 45'28"6
9.Latvala - Ford - 45'31"4
10.Gardemeister - Mitsu - 45'40"4
11.H.Solberg - Ford - 45'49"9
12.Galli - Xsara - 46'04"0

[QUOTE=WagonMonster;17535244]Photographers are disposable.

Right Morgan?


:p[/QUOTE]
i'm a photog too :p
WRXedUSA 03-30-2007 10:13 AM

[url]http://www.bfgoodrich.com/racing/AfficheServlet?Rubrique=20060308115500&Langue=EN[/url]

There is a good live event tracker on BFG's website

click on "results and statistics"
RALLYT-WRX 03-30-2007 10:19 AM

[QUOTE=WRXedUSA;17540056][url]http://www.bfgoodrich.com/racing/AfficheServlet?Rubrique=20060308115500&Langue=EN[/url]

There is a good live event tracker on BFG's website

click on "results and statistics"[/QUOTE]

Nice find!

Looks like Petter was peddling on that stage!:banana:
WRXedUSA 03-30-2007 10:21 AM

They even have end-stage quotes from all the drivers.

Refreshes every 60sec.
pete_falcone 03-30-2007 10:48 AM

[QUOTE=WRXedUSA;17540130]They even have end-stage quotes from all the drivers.

Refreshes every 60sec.[/QUOTE]

That's cool. All they're missing are the "uhh's" in Loeb's quotes. Or is that why his quotes have an inordinate amount of commas?
RALLYT-WRX 03-30-2007 11:54 AM

Looks like it gonna be another Seb show. :rolleyes:


Am I the only one finding rally a little dry this year? I mean the rallying action is great but I am just sick of seeing Seb all the time.
Mopho 03-30-2007 01:17 PM

[QUOTE=WagonMonster;17535244]Photographers are disposable.

Right Morgan?


:p[/QUOTE]


Dime a dozen, just like web developers
Mopho 03-30-2007 01:18 PM

[QUOTE=RALLYT-WRX;17541394]Looks like it gonna be another Seb show. :rolleyes:


Am I the only one finding rally a little dry this year? I mean the rallying action is great but I am just sick of seeing Seb all the time.[/QUOTE]


This year? WRC has been a little dry since 2001
WagonMonster 03-30-2007 01:22 PM

[QUOTE=Mopho;17542490]Dime a dozen, just like web developers[/QUOTE]
Touche
Yotsuya 03-30-2007 01:42 PM

This year's been more intereesting than last year so far.

Portugal isn't on the 2008 season. Nor is Ireland or Norge.
I'm really going to regret not going to Ireland, I guess, though the Tarmac Championship would probably be just as much fun to watch.
25-27 Jan Rallye Automobile Monte-Carlo
8-10 Feb Swedish Rally
7-9 Mar Rally South Africa*
28-30 Mar Jordan Rally
11-13 Apr Cyprus Rally*
25-27 Apr Rally Argentina
16-18 May Rally Italia-Sardinia
30 May-1 June Acropolis Rally of Greece
13-15 June Rally of Turkey
27-29 June Rally Poland*
1-3 Aug Rally Finland
15-17 Aug Rallye Deutschland
29-31 Aug Rally New Zealand
12-14 Sept Rally Australia
3-5 Oct Rallye de Espana
10-12 Oct Rallye de France - Tour de Corse
24-26 Oct Rally Japan
28-30 Nov Rally GB

For the 2008 calendar, only one of the rallies indicated by an * will be chosen to participate. This means that Rally of Cyprus is still tentative for 2008. (Unfortunately the DTS, Downtown Special did not help in establishing the rally as a solid entry in the calendar).
OBShahn 03-30-2007 03:30 PM

[QUOTE=Mopho;17542502]This year? WRC has been a little dry since 2001[/QUOTE]


2003 wasn't THAT bad, nothing like 2004-present
Subaru_555 03-30-2007 11:38 PM

[QUOTE=WagonMonster;17535244]Photographers are disposable.

Right Morgan?


:p[/QUOTE]

It's safe to say that true rally photographers will sacrifice safety for a stellar shot.
Chromer 03-30-2007 11:55 PM

Day 1:

[url]http://zerotracker.com/download/HTTP/84299/2007.WRC.POR.D1.torrent[/url]
charlyN 03-31-2007 06:43 AM

ES 9

1 S. LOEB 14:59.9
2 M. GR�NHOLM +5.8
3 M. HIRVONEN +15.3
4 P. SOLBERG +15.9
5 D. SORDO +19.4
6 J. LATVALA +33.6
7 H. SOLBERG +41.7
8 D. CARLSSON +44.3
9 M. STOHL +54.0
10 C. ATKINSON +54.1
11 G. GALLI +54.2
12 A. MIKKELSEN +1:05.6
13 J. KOPECK� +1:08.4
14 A. ARA�JO +1:10.1
15 G. MACHALE +1:20.2
16 M. WILSON +1:20.4
17 U. AAVA +1:54.1
18 P. FLODIN +2:02.6
19 P. ANDERSSON +2:04.1
20 R. MADEIRA +2:16.6
21 V. PASCOAL +2:20.6
22 J. Pedro FONTES +4:44.2
Overall results
1 S. LOEB 2:02:15.4
2 M. GR�NHOLM +10.9
3 M. HIRVONEN +1:09.5
4 P. SOLBERG +1:14.8
5 D. SORDO +2:04.2
6 J. LATVALA +3:07.9
7 M. STOHL +3:58.1
8 C. ATKINSON +4:21.0
9 D. CARLSSON +4:21.3
10 H. SOLBERG +4:23.1
11 G. GALLI +5:49.7
12 A. MIKKELSEN
charlyN 03-31-2007 06:45 AM

split times in live here
[url]http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=5&stage=10&results=1&jwrc=[/url]
pete_falcone 03-31-2007 07:56 AM

There goes Catkinson...
Weasel 555 03-31-2007 08:49 AM

Day 2 - overall as of SS10:

1.Loeb - C4 - 2h13'55"9
2.Gronholm - Ford - 2h14'10"9
3.Hirvonen - Ford - 2h15'16"9
4.P.Solberg - Subaru - 2h15'16"9 :)
5.Sordo - C4 - 2h16'21"6
6.Latvala - Ford - 2h17'29"4
7.Carlsson - Xsara - 2h18'50"6
8.H.Solberg - Ford - 2h19'05"5
9.Galli - Xsara - 2h20'32"7
10.Mikkelsen - Ford - 2h22'34"2

News !
[COLOR="Blue"]Subaru's Chris Atkinson has retired from the second leg of the Rally de Portugal after he went off the road in SS10, the final test of the morning, the 20.89 kilometre-run through Almodovar 1.

The incident occurred just 700 metres from the start, when the Aussie missed a pace-note while negotiating a complex sequence of sixth gear corners and drove off the stage at high speed.

Atkinson and co-driver Glenn Macneall were uninjured in the incident but when their car eventually cane to rest it was too badly damaged for them to continue and the pair retired from the leg. It is not yet known if they will be able to re-start on Sunday under the SupeRally format.[/COLOR]


[COLOR="DarkRed"]Mitsubishi privateer, Toni Gardemeister has been excluded from the Rally de Portugal, the fifth round in the 2007 FIA World Rally Championship.

Gardemeister had finished leg 1 in tenth place overall, however after the stewards received a report from the FIA technical delegate stating that the Finn had arrived at time control 4A without a left rear tyre, they had no option but to disqualify him.

Under the rules, article 3.6 of the FIA WRC Sporting Regulations, it stipulates that �on a road section that is a public road a competition car may only be driven on four wheels and tyres'.[/COLOR]
Subaru_555 03-31-2007 10:20 AM

Sweet! Nice recap, I shouldn't have read it though:rolleyes: . Silly me now I know what will happen.
charlyN 03-31-2007 11:33 AM

ES 12
carots are cooked

1 S. LOEB 14:35.0
2 P. SOLBERG +10.1
3 M. HIRVONEN +11.7
4 M. GR�NHOLM +14.1
5 D. SORDO +24.9
6 J. LATVALA +27.0
7 H. SOLBERG +28.2
8 G. GALLI +29.3
9 D. CARLSSON +35.4
10 J. KOPECK� +42.3
11 M. STOHL +44.3
12 A. ARA�JO +52.6
13 A. MIKKELSEN +52.8
14 M. WILSON +55.3
15 G. MACHALE +57.5
16 P. FLODIN +1:54.9
Overall results
1 S. LOEB 2:48:46.9
2 M. GR�NHOLM +30.8
3 M. HIRVONEN +1:43.2
4 P. SOLBERG +1:59.0
5 D. SORDO +3:40.0
6 J. LATVALA +4:27.4
7 H. SOLBERG +6:20.4
8 D. CARLSSON +6:21.6
9 G. GALLI +7:45.2
10 M. STOHL
Weasel 555 03-31-2007 03:38 PM

End of Day 2 Overall SS13:

1.Loeb - C4 - 3h00'25"5
2.Gronholm - Ford - 3h01'06"0
3.Hirvonen - Ford - 3h02'22"8
4.P.Solberg - Subaru - 3h02'35"8 :)
5.Sordo - C4 - 3h04'24"9
6.Latvala - Ford - 3h05'15"7
7.H.Solberg - Ford - 3h07'14"5
8.Carlsson - Xsara - 3h07'21"1
9.Galli - Xsara - 3h08'38"3
10.Stohl - Xsara - 3h11'46"1
sperry7 03-31-2007 05:33 PM

When is the new car for 07 debuting?

I seeded for that vid!
Mopho 03-31-2007 05:35 PM

[QUOTE=sperry7;17554653]When is the new car for 07 debuting?

[/QUOTE]


I think we are waiting for the 08 car now
LastResort 03-31-2007 10:33 PM

[QUOTE=sperry7;17554653]When is the new car for 07 debuting? [/QUOTE]Mexico.

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