| PaulC | 03-28-2005 05:49 PM |
Did they have to run the restrictor during the race though? I didn't realize they got "adjusted" just due to qualifying results.
Edit: Bailey, I was mistaken. See zzyzx's post.
Edit: Bailey, I was mistaken. See zzyzx's post.
| kfoote | 03-28-2005 05:56 PM |
The Mazda 6's did run the 25% restrictor during the race.
They had a minor restriction on them before the race, and it was changed to a 25% area reduction between the first and second sessions on Wednesday, which were the times that the qualifying order was based on. The fastest times for pretty much everyone were set in the morning, as the track conditions were quite a bit better than in the afternoon, so everyone was slower. During practice, the Mazda 6's were 6 MPH faster than the next fastest cars at the end of the back straight, which I believe were the Realtime TSX's.
The in car footage from Altenburg showed how fast those cars really are in a straight line, on more than one occasion being slower out of turn 16 than the car ahead, and passing them by the mid-point of the straight.
They had a minor restriction on them before the race, and it was changed to a 25% area reduction between the first and second sessions on Wednesday, which were the times that the qualifying order was based on. The fastest times for pretty much everyone were set in the morning, as the track conditions were quite a bit better than in the afternoon, so everyone was slower. During practice, the Mazda 6's were 6 MPH faster than the next fastest cars at the end of the back straight, which I believe were the Realtime TSX's.
The in car footage from Altenburg showed how fast those cars really are in a straight line, on more than one occasion being slower out of turn 16 than the car ahead, and passing them by the mid-point of the straight.
| mw1029h | 03-28-2005 08:15 PM |
[QUOTE=kfoote]Team Oreca is based in France, not the US. They are a top level team, but the discussiuon was for US-based teams, which is why they didn't get mentioned.[/QUOTE] Oh ok, they do travel and almost anything they work on is vastly improved that would be my choice.
| mw1029h | 03-28-2005 08:31 PM |
I don't understand why it takes so long to figure out what restrictions are needed on which car. I don't hear that in WRC, BTCC, DTM, or the ETTC they should have a HP limit on a dyno and a minium body/chassis wt. and success weight. That why its up to the drivers. Its not like you could put a spec engine in the cars. If not just let them run what they bring and we all know what happens then.
| dmitrik4 | 03-28-2005 09:19 PM |
b/c unlike WRC, et al., part of the goal of WC rules is to place everyone on an equal footing...which sometimes necessitates different rule sets for different cars. for example, the old proteges were allowed much more liberal engine mods than most b/c they were starting with much lower factory numbers.
basically, WRC doesn't care how close the racing is, but WC does.
the restrictions change b/c the teams work around them as fast as they are introduced. and especially w/ a new platform, it's impossible to tell how it will stack up to the competition until the race (or qualifying). the cars are starting from such different points that a single rule set won't level the playing field.
that's the rationale behind "reward" weight, where the top finishers have weight added to their cars, and the lower-place finishers get to take weight off. IIRC, auberlen had over 100lbs extra in his car by the end of last season.
edit: as a mazda fan, i have to admit it was cool watching the 6s walk the others on the straights after years of loveable-but-not-quite-quick-enough proteges. :devil:
basically, WRC doesn't care how close the racing is, but WC does.
the restrictions change b/c the teams work around them as fast as they are introduced. and especially w/ a new platform, it's impossible to tell how it will stack up to the competition until the race (or qualifying). the cars are starting from such different points that a single rule set won't level the playing field.
that's the rationale behind "reward" weight, where the top finishers have weight added to their cars, and the lower-place finishers get to take weight off. IIRC, auberlen had over 100lbs extra in his car by the end of last season.
edit: as a mazda fan, i have to admit it was cool watching the 6s walk the others on the straights after years of loveable-but-not-quite-quick-enough proteges. :devil:
| kfoote | 03-29-2005 10:16 AM |
[QUOTE=dmitrik4]
that's the rationale behind "reward" weight, where the top finishers have weight added to their cars, and the lower-place finishers get to take weight off. IIRC, auberlen had over 100lbs extra in his car by the end of last season.
[/QUOTE]
Auberlen carried the series maximum 250 lbs of REWRDS reight at Road Atlanta last year.
In the 2003 Finale, Auberlen won in Puerto Rico on a drying track with 225 lbs of weight.
Some fun we had with adding weight last year:
[img]http://www.allshocks.com/productimages/BA rewards weight.jpg[/img]
that's the rationale behind "reward" weight, where the top finishers have weight added to their cars, and the lower-place finishers get to take weight off. IIRC, auberlen had over 100lbs extra in his car by the end of last season.
[/QUOTE]
Auberlen carried the series maximum 250 lbs of REWRDS reight at Road Atlanta last year.
In the 2003 Finale, Auberlen won in Puerto Rico on a drying track with 225 lbs of weight.
Some fun we had with adding weight last year:
[img]http://www.allshocks.com/productimages/BA rewards weight.jpg[/img]
| dmitrik4 | 03-29-2005 05:42 PM |
...and 250 is more than 100, just like i said. ;)
j/k. i didn't realize it was *that* much. well he earned it, i guess!
j/k. i didn't realize it was *that* much. well he earned it, i guess!
| TimStevens | 03-30-2005 08:30 AM |
[QUOTE=kfoote]Auberlen carried the series maximum 250 lbs of REWRDS reight at Road Atlanta last year.
In the 2003 Finale, Auberlen won in Puerto Rico on a drying track with 225 lbs of weight.
Some fun we had with adding weight last year:
[img]http://www.allshocks.com/productimages/BA rewards weight.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
:lol: good to see you were at least able to put it opposite the driver :) I presume you gave Bill a lead shoe for his right foot as well?
In the 2003 Finale, Auberlen won in Puerto Rico on a drying track with 225 lbs of weight.
Some fun we had with adding weight last year:
[img]http://www.allshocks.com/productimages/BA rewards weight.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
:lol: good to see you were at least able to put it opposite the driver :) I presume you gave Bill a lead shoe for his right foot as well?
| parker/slc/gc8fan | 03-31-2005 03:26 AM |
[QUOTE=Joel Gat, 1.8L]Hello,
I think Bri hit the nail on the head. Your sponsors want you to make them look good. If they don't care about the car you're using, you'll use a car that is easier to win with. If they care about the car you use, you'll chose the car they want, and if it needs more development than other cars, those sponsors will be paying for it.
Who wants to pay for the development of a Subaru? Well, I can think of one company... Subaru. Everyone else (who has the millions it takes), couldn't care less about developing a Subaru.
So it will take Subaru stepping up to the plate to get a Subaru to the top of this caliber of professional racing. Well, either that or some REALLY deep pockets at a private team.
Like I said by email, [email�protected] Mikes, feel free to ask about my thoughts on anything. You guys have one heck of an uphill battle to do this without factory support. I hope the differentials discussion was useful.
Joel[/QUOTE]
i agree 100%
now we take the next logical step. gain support for an allout assault on soa.
if we are strong enough, we will not fail.
I mean, the idea should convince subaru for us. themarketing of acing has never been more promising for production cars, as it is now.
the closest is nascar, back when they used real cars.
I think Bri hit the nail on the head. Your sponsors want you to make them look good. If they don't care about the car you're using, you'll use a car that is easier to win with. If they care about the car you use, you'll chose the car they want, and if it needs more development than other cars, those sponsors will be paying for it.
Who wants to pay for the development of a Subaru? Well, I can think of one company... Subaru. Everyone else (who has the millions it takes), couldn't care less about developing a Subaru.
So it will take Subaru stepping up to the plate to get a Subaru to the top of this caliber of professional racing. Well, either that or some REALLY deep pockets at a private team.
Like I said by email, [email�protected] Mikes, feel free to ask about my thoughts on anything. You guys have one heck of an uphill battle to do this without factory support. I hope the differentials discussion was useful.
Joel[/QUOTE]
i agree 100%
now we take the next logical step. gain support for an allout assault on soa.
if we are strong enough, we will not fail.
I mean, the idea should convince subaru for us. themarketing of acing has never been more promising for production cars, as it is now.
the closest is nascar, back when they used real cars.
| pio!pio! | 03-31-2005 04:13 AM |
[QUOTE=kfoote]Auberlen carried the series maximum 250 lbs of REWRDS reight at Road Atlanta last year.
In the 2003 Finale, Auberlen won in Puerto Rico on a drying track with 225 lbs of weight.
Some fun we had with adding weight last year:
[img]http://www.allshocks.com/productimages/BA rewards weight.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
I remember a joke sticker with a +1000 ballast sticker on or soimething :) :D
In the 2003 Finale, Auberlen won in Puerto Rico on a drying track with 225 lbs of weight.
Some fun we had with adding weight last year:
[img]http://www.allshocks.com/productimages/BA rewards weight.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
I remember a joke sticker with a +1000 ballast sticker on or soimething :) :D
| mw1029h | 03-31-2005 06:26 AM |
I still think that the race series (GT AND ST) plays favorites. The restriction they nailed the Cadillac with last year hurt them more than the restrictions that were placed on Audi and Porsche. I even remember years ago when they let a NSX run with a supercharger "Vortex" because P D was cring i'm too slow help me :( . I can't see them helping out the Subaru, The leading teams will raise hell. Mike's Privateer effort will need factory support or he will not make it into the top 10 unless there is major carnage, that could happen, remember the Viper won only one race on its way to a championship. Tommy a real vet in racing knows the game. :lol: BTW I did see the Subaru on the track using my "Tivo" almost a half second.
Marc
Marc
| SoloImpreza | 04-01-2005 10:13 AM |
the cadillac team should have been penalized. they passed out a viper like it was going backwards on the straight at sebring.
i sort of agree with you about the favorites part, sort of disagree. the cadillac team is 100% factory backed. audi was favored because of the factory backing. so its not that there are favorites. its those teams have the loot to utilize every aspect of racing. tuning, power, drivers etc.
GT series is trying to get all drivers with a car manufacturer backing. reason why i know is that a GT series local driver RANDY HALE in his Mustang has a shop 5 minutes from my house.
i told him that i didnt like GT series as much as i use to. its always audi or BMW, plus its an audi or bmw with gobs of money. he said GT is trying to steer the series into more factory backed teams.
i sort of agree with you about the favorites part, sort of disagree. the cadillac team is 100% factory backed. audi was favored because of the factory backing. so its not that there are favorites. its those teams have the loot to utilize every aspect of racing. tuning, power, drivers etc.
GT series is trying to get all drivers with a car manufacturer backing. reason why i know is that a GT series local driver RANDY HALE in his Mustang has a shop 5 minutes from my house.
i told him that i didnt like GT series as much as i use to. its always audi or BMW, plus its an audi or bmw with gobs of money. he said GT is trying to steer the series into more factory backed teams.
| dave bruener | 04-01-2005 11:02 AM |
regarding the supercharged NSX--yeah he got the super charger, came out and killed everyone and the next race he had something like 225# slapped on. After that PD had his hands full. I think SCCA does a pretty good job of keeping parity, but it is a tough, tough job and thankless on top of it.
I think that the variety of makes in the series shows that it is viable for all those makes. It just doesn't work out well for Subaru at this time. That in and of itself doesn't make the series bad. I love it and the Touring series even more!
I wish they had better TV coverage, if i miss the first showing, I can never find a re-run of it.
I think that the variety of makes in the series shows that it is viable for all those makes. It just doesn't work out well for Subaru at this time. That in and of itself doesn't make the series bad. I love it and the Touring series even more!
I wish they had better TV coverage, if i miss the first showing, I can never find a re-run of it.
| WTypeRogerX | 04-15-2005 02:28 AM |
It is just wrong when a Cadillac with the same engine but worse aerodyamics and weight distribution smokes the Vettes.
SCCA does a good job of keeping the cars competitive. Remember the year before the Cadillacs when the Audis were blowing everthing else away until they reduced the boost?
It's a shame they are pushing for factory teams and shoving the independent guys out.
I would have thought the WRX with more power and AWD advantage, but suspension and weight disadvantage would be more competitive. Guess they've tuned those NA engines to as much power as the WRX.
SCCA does a good job of keeping the cars competitive. Remember the year before the Cadillacs when the Audis were blowing everthing else away until they reduced the boost?
It's a shame they are pushing for factory teams and shoving the independent guys out.
I would have thought the WRX with more power and AWD advantage, but suspension and weight disadvantage would be more competitive. Guess they've tuned those NA engines to as much power as the WRX.
| Homemade WRX | 04-15-2005 03:41 AM |
you would be suprised with that cadillac...last year at formula SAE comptetition, the lead engineer of that project was there with the car open for any and all questions on the car. the work on that thing leaves it not being a cadillac anymore, IMHO
the car is an incredible piece of machinery though!!
the car is an incredible piece of machinery though!!
| mw1029h | 04-15-2005 04:38 AM |
Well, here is the problem with the WRX" NO FACTORY" backing, Audi pre-owned had worked real hard "joest" received plenty of factory support. If Mike had factory support it would have allowed for research and development. Mike's car would have been more competitive. We all have to give Mike credit, he is out there and he is staying out of trouble. I think he would agree if he had the budget he would be running much better nothing like an almost unlimited budget and R&D time. It would be nice to have two Subaru WRX in the race. Funny at pre grid they used the wrong make symbol for the subaru. The commentators did speak of Mike a couple of times during the event unlike race 1. If he gets into the top 10 then we'll hear more of Mike. questions, Are they loosening the restrictions on MIke's car, is he inquiring or is it too earily and he would seem like a trouble maker. :D
| mw1029h | 04-15-2005 04:44 AM |
[QUOTE=dave bruener]regarding the supercharged NSX--yeah he got the super charger, came out and killed everyone and the next race he had something like 225# slapped on. After that PD had his hands full. I think SCCA does a pretty good job of keeping parity, but it is a tough, tough job and thankless on top of it.
I think that the variety of makes in the series shows that it is viable for all those makes. It just doesn't work out well for Subaru at this time. That in and of itself doesn't make the series bad. I love it and the Touring series even more!
I wish they had better TV coverage, if i miss the first showing, I can never find a re-run of it.[/QUOTE] Even with the success ballast he did win the championship in that NSX correct me if i'm wrong.
I think that the variety of makes in the series shows that it is viable for all those makes. It just doesn't work out well for Subaru at this time. That in and of itself doesn't make the series bad. I love it and the Touring series even more!
I wish they had better TV coverage, if i miss the first showing, I can never find a re-run of it.[/QUOTE] Even with the success ballast he did win the championship in that NSX correct me if i'm wrong.
| TimStevens | 04-15-2005 07:26 AM |
Yes, quite a bit more TV time for Mike at St. Petes than in the first race. Not much, but some great mentions. :)
| WRX_orlando | 04-15-2005 09:14 AM |
[QUOTE=mw1029h]questions, Are they loosening the restrictions on MIke's car, is he inquiring or is it too earily and he would seem like a trouble maker. :D[/QUOTE]
Mike has been asking for a few parts to be accepted, but to no avail, SCCA is so scared of the turbo cars taking the series away from the other teams that Mike isn't even allowed an intake, he is still running that restrictive stock airbox. There are a few other allowances that he is pushing for, but at least for now the answer always seems to be "no".
Mike has been asking for a few parts to be accepted, but to no avail, SCCA is so scared of the turbo cars taking the series away from the other teams that Mike isn't even allowed an intake, he is still running that restrictive stock airbox. There are a few other allowances that he is pushing for, but at least for now the answer always seems to be "no".
| kfoote | 04-15-2005 09:47 AM |
[QUOTE=mw1029h]Even with the success ballast he did win the championship in that NSX correct me if i'm wrong.[/QUOTE]
He finished 2nd in the GT Champoinship in 2001, behind Galati in the S4. I was working on the Porsche team that finished 3rd with Johannes van Overbeek driving that year. Johannes won one race, the other 9 were split between Galati and Cunningham.
He finished 2nd in the GT Champoinship in 2001, behind Galati in the S4. I was working on the Porsche team that finished 3rd with Johannes van Overbeek driving that year. Johannes won one race, the other 9 were split between Galati and Cunningham.
| pio!pio! | 04-15-2005 12:09 PM |
[QUOTE=WRX_orlando]Mike has been asking for a few parts to be accepted, but to no avail, SCCA is so scared of the turbo cars taking the series away from the other teams that Mike isn't even allowed an intake, he is still running that restrictive stock airbox. There are a few other allowances that he is pushing for, but at least for now the answer always seems to be "no".[/QUOTE]
I don't think the stock airbox is that restrictive..there are other bottlenecks you run into first before the airbox becomes limiting
I don't think the stock airbox is that restrictive..there are other bottlenecks you run into first before the airbox becomes limiting
| Leonardo | 04-15-2005 01:48 PM |
[QUOTE=kfoote]Auberlen carried the series maximum 250 lbs of REWRDS reight at Road Atlanta last year.
In the 2003 Finale, Auberlen won in Puerto Rico on a drying track with 225 lbs of weight.
Some fun we had with adding weight last year:
[img]http://www.allshocks.com/productimages/BA rewards weight.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Went to that race here! It weas a hell of a race!
In the 2003 Finale, Auberlen won in Puerto Rico on a drying track with 225 lbs of weight.
Some fun we had with adding weight last year:
[img]http://www.allshocks.com/productimages/BA rewards weight.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Went to that race here! It weas a hell of a race!
| GravelRash | 04-15-2005 07:01 PM |
[QUOTE=mw1029h]... Funny at pre grid they used the wrong make symbol for the subaru. The commentators did speak of Mike a couple of times during the event unlike race 1...[/QUOTE]
I noticed that random Chev symbol too; bizarre! And while they did mention Mike favorably several times, with some track coverage, they didn't mention "Subaru" until near the very end of the race (iirc; maybe not even then(?)).
It was almost like a conspiracy: "...and Mike Flynn's doing a good job in that blue car that's not a Mazda..." :huh: :lol: (No, they didn't actually say that ;) )
I noticed that random Chev symbol too; bizarre! And while they did mention Mike favorably several times, with some track coverage, they didn't mention "Subaru" until near the very end of the race (iirc; maybe not even then(?)).
It was almost like a conspiracy: "...and Mike Flynn's doing a good job in that blue car that's not a Mazda..." :huh: :lol: (No, they didn't actually say that ;) )
| zzyzx | 04-15-2005 11:09 PM |
[QUOTE=GravelRash]I noticed that random Chev symbol too; bizarre! And while they did mention Mike favorably several times, with some track coverage, they didn't mention "Subaru" until near the very end of the race (iirc; maybe not even then(?)).
[/quote]
Well, maybe they shouldn't mention Subaru at all until Subaru caughs up some money.
Anyhoo... Mike is currently sitting in 21st in practice times for Road Atlanta. Qualifying in tomorrow.
[/quote]
Well, maybe they shouldn't mention Subaru at all until Subaru caughs up some money.
Anyhoo... Mike is currently sitting in 21st in practice times for Road Atlanta. Qualifying in tomorrow.
| Robin2 | 04-16-2005 12:01 AM |
I'm impressed on how he's doing...... especially ahead of the srt4's.... it's small budget vs big budget.... and it's always hard..... hopefully he gets a few good results.... in the next few races (in the top 10)....
I think Subaru would maybe sponsor the legacy gt sedan..... that could be a good angle.... but is the legacy gt listed on the series (as one of the potential cars)?
Robin
I think Subaru would maybe sponsor the legacy gt sedan..... that could be a good angle.... but is the legacy gt listed on the series (as one of the potential cars)?
Robin
| Homemade WRX | 04-16-2005 02:47 AM |
[QUOTE=Robin2]I'm impressed on how he's doing...... especially ahead of the srt4's.... it's small budget vs big budget.... and it's always hard..... hopefully he gets a few good results.... in the next few races (in the top 10)....
I think Subaru would maybe sponsor the legacy gt sedan..... that could be a good angle.... but is the legacy gt listed on the series (as one of the potential cars)?
Robin[/QUOTE]
I don't see why not...the srt-4's are 2.4L and the legacy is only .1L larger...so I couldn't see that as being much of a argument for not allowing it...besides, it is heavier
I think Subaru would maybe sponsor the legacy gt sedan..... that could be a good angle.... but is the legacy gt listed on the series (as one of the potential cars)?
Robin[/QUOTE]
I don't see why not...the srt-4's are 2.4L and the legacy is only .1L larger...so I couldn't see that as being much of a argument for not allowing it...besides, it is heavier
| mw1029h | 04-16-2005 04:09 AM |
I would like to see the legacy. If Subaru would sponsor a WRX, I'm not so sure if they would let Mike drive it. I think he would have to try out. BTW isn't that little Mercedes Benz supercharged.
| WRX_orlando | 04-16-2005 10:20 AM |
the legacy gt, just as the STi, would be in GT class, dont ask me why 100cc would be the turning point, but mikes team has inquired about the STi and was told that it would have to run in GT. also, i say the restrictive airbox because mike has had to go back from a perrinn turbo inlet hose to the stock plastic one because the silicon hose was collapsing under the vaccuum between the airbox and the turbo due to lack of airflow through the airbox. So, it seems the airbox is the biggest bottleneck in his particular setup at this point. Besides, the airbox wasnt the point, just an example, there are several other goodies he would like for other parts of the drivetrain, but i think scca/speed are still waiting it out to see how competitive the car is without approving something now, that they'll end up regretting by giving an advantage rather than equalizer. Kind of like giving the tri-point mazda 6's the 7-speed sequential dogbox, man what an unfair advantage.
| zzyzx | 04-16-2005 02:40 PM |
[QUOTE=WRX_orlando]Kind of like giving the tri-point mazda 6's the 7-speed sequential dogbox, man what an unfair advantage.[/QUOTE]
Mazda is a serious long-term supporter of the series and top teams run the 6. It's the old money talks, BS walks. I have no doubt that if Subaru came in with financial support of the series, that would grease the wheels real quick on getting the necessary mods for the WRX. You have to ask yourselves what World Challenge has to gain from letting a small budget team in a new car allowances that would let it lead the pack in it's first year out. The answer? Nothing.
And the question isn't why 2.5L should go into TC, it's why they allowed a 2.4L turbo (SRT) into TC. Keep in mind the S60 is also a 2.5L turbo (in GT). The answer: Dodge. Yet another serious supporter of the series.
Having the Legacy in TC makes perfect sense as the 6, 3 serries and TSX are essentially in the same market segment.
BTW, Mike qualified 17th today. :) Sounds like they're doing just fine so far.
Mazda is a serious long-term supporter of the series and top teams run the 6. It's the old money talks, BS walks. I have no doubt that if Subaru came in with financial support of the series, that would grease the wheels real quick on getting the necessary mods for the WRX. You have to ask yourselves what World Challenge has to gain from letting a small budget team in a new car allowances that would let it lead the pack in it's first year out. The answer? Nothing.
And the question isn't why 2.5L should go into TC, it's why they allowed a 2.4L turbo (SRT) into TC. Keep in mind the S60 is also a 2.5L turbo (in GT). The answer: Dodge. Yet another serious supporter of the series.
Having the Legacy in TC makes perfect sense as the 6, 3 serries and TSX are essentially in the same market segment.
BTW, Mike qualified 17th today. :) Sounds like they're doing just fine so far.
| bemani | 04-17-2005 01:37 AM |
Wow. Lots of shots of the WRX shown today. :(
| mw1029h | 04-17-2005 04:06 AM |
Really was that on Spd I had the Tivo set. So I should have it.
| Suburban | 04-17-2005 08:08 AM |
Anyone know what happened during the last race. He was up to 12th I think, then fell way back toward the end.
I think the Subie has a shot at getting in the top 10 if they can get it sorted out, and don't get wrecked or punted off the racetrack.
I think the Subie has a shot at getting in the top 10 if they can get it sorted out, and don't get wrecked or punted off the racetrack.
| baileypicks24 | 04-17-2005 11:01 AM |
I was at Road Atlanta for the Touring Car race..
Mike made a GREAT run. He was moving up the field when a TSX wrecked him in turn one!! Thankfully the car started nad he began the treck up the field again....only to lead to what I believe was a flat tire. He still managed a top 15 finish, which is, with 2 wrecks in the same day, is VERY impressive...
I took some pics..didn't come out too good :(
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/baileypicks24/irishmike1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/baileypicks24/irishmike2.jpg[/IMG]
The ALMS race is in 1 hour!! Gotta run to the track asap!!!
Mike made a GREAT run. He was moving up the field when a TSX wrecked him in turn one!! Thankfully the car started nad he began the treck up the field again....only to lead to what I believe was a flat tire. He still managed a top 15 finish, which is, with 2 wrecks in the same day, is VERY impressive...
I took some pics..didn't come out too good :(
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/baileypicks24/irishmike1.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/baileypicks24/irishmike2.jpg[/IMG]
The ALMS race is in 1 hour!! Gotta run to the track asap!!!
| FLEMON | 04-17-2005 11:06 AM |
Would an STI make a good Grand Am GS car? If so, how much $$$ is needed to run with the mustangs,m3's and now with the 350z?
What mods are allowed in GS? I know that in TV I see that cars in GS have significant weight reduction.
What mods are allowed in GS? I know that in TV I see that cars in GS have significant weight reduction.
| DILLIGAF Racing | 04-17-2005 12:08 PM |
[QUOTE=FLEMON]Would an STI make a good Grand Am GS car? If so, how much $$$ is needed to run with the mustangs,m3's and now with the 350z?
What mods are allowed in GS? I know that in TV I see that cars in GS have significant weight reduction.[/QUOTE]
the mustangs costs $150k as a turn key race car.
What mods are allowed in GS? I know that in TV I see that cars in GS have significant weight reduction.[/QUOTE]
the mustangs costs $150k as a turn key race car.
| roadracer | 04-17-2005 03:33 PM |
Just back in from Atlanta, and the Race Report on Atlanta will be posted on [url]www.irishmikes.com[/url] very shortly. Jeremy Edwards provided us with some fantanistic photos, one with Mike in front of a bunch of other racecars as head through the
Esses after the restart following the turn one incident. All in All, a great weekend. If we had caught the tire going down earlier, we might not have gone down two laps, but we still were able to capture the B&M Hole Shot Award. That two, with the other one come in Mosport two years ago. Visit the website, hope you enjoy.
Roadracer - Orlando Irish Mike's Racing
Esses after the restart following the turn one incident. All in All, a great weekend. If we had caught the tire going down earlier, we might not have gone down two laps, but we still were able to capture the B&M Hole Shot Award. That two, with the other one come in Mosport two years ago. Visit the website, hope you enjoy.
Roadracer - Orlando Irish Mike's Racing
| [email�protected] | 04-17-2005 07:00 PM |
Hey guys, just got in from Atl.. Yes we got punted in lap 2, but it was by Osborn, in the red BMW. No big, its racing, but because of the crash it pushed gravel in between the tire and rim. It leaked slowly and Mike could not tell what was wrong. So we made him stay out to finish, but then realized it to be a tire.
We were in 13th both times (crash, and tire), we felt a top 10 in this event if the crash had not accured.
I will post a incar video for you guys of the start and the wreck shortly
Thanks, Scott, IMracing
We were in 13th both times (crash, and tire), we felt a top 10 in this event if the crash had not accured.
I will post a incar video for you guys of the start and the wreck shortly
Thanks, Scott, IMracing
| Butt Dyno | 04-17-2005 08:10 PM |
Awesome! Congrats guys!
| zzyzx | 04-18-2005 01:34 AM |
Congrats, guys!
Oh and hey, if you need help resizing images while keeping their proportions intact, let me know... ;)
Oh and hey, if you need help resizing images while keeping their proportions intact, let me know... ;)
| C17LOAD | 04-18-2005 09:26 AM |
Good job guys, too bad about the incident though. I half expected you to just slide it through the gravel rally style and come flyin back out on track! That would have really given the commentators something to talk about! Oh well, keep improving and you'll be in the top 10 in no time!
| TimStevens | 04-18-2005 09:33 AM |
Definitely seems like the Speed commentators dig the WRX. Of all the cars out of the top-10, it seemed to me the WRX got the most TV time over the first few races. We'll see if that continues through the rest of the races.
| WRX_orlando | 04-18-2005 11:02 AM |
Still holding on to 12th in points, yay! maybe a little higher after mid-ohio next month. Congratulations to Mike, Scott, Roni and gang!
| SoloImpreza | 04-18-2005 12:22 PM |
speed vision tc is crazy this year. 3 races in a month. i couldnt believe that there was even too. i been sick, was flippin through the channels and i saw da SCOOBY for a second. thought it was a repeat from st. petersburg. track definitely didnt look like petersburg.
hopefully for those of us in the new england area will get to meet IM racing july 4th weekend at limerock! woooo hoooo!
hopefully for those of us in the new england area will get to meet IM racing july 4th weekend at limerock! woooo hoooo!
| D.R. | 04-18-2005 06:46 PM |
Hey ya'll, I had the oppurtunity to work with the Irish Mike's crew from Thurs-Sat. Holy hell was I impressed.
I showed up on Thursday and it was just Scott and Mike there. No one else. Their PR guy, Sam, showed up later that day. They did get an extra mechanic later on but for the testing day it was just them two. The skill these guys have is just amazing to see, as is Mike's driving. Stretch came into the pits once and finished behind Mike, who was punted off AND had to pit. With some love from SCCA and Subaru, and of course us, this team is going to be dangerous.
Be sure to stop by their shop and give them some business to keep the race team alive. Scott has worked on both my cars and done an awesome job.
I showed up on Thursday and it was just Scott and Mike there. No one else. Their PR guy, Sam, showed up later that day. They did get an extra mechanic later on but for the testing day it was just them two. The skill these guys have is just amazing to see, as is Mike's driving. Stretch came into the pits once and finished behind Mike, who was punted off AND had to pit. With some love from SCCA and Subaru, and of course us, this team is going to be dangerous.
Be sure to stop by their shop and give them some business to keep the race team alive. Scott has worked on both my cars and done an awesome job.
| DILLIGAF Racing | 04-18-2005 09:40 PM |
[QUOTE=D.R.]Hey ya'll, I had the oppurtunity to work with the Irish Mike's crew from Thurs-Sat. Holy hell was I impressed.
I showed up on Thursday and it was just Scott and Mike there. No one else. Their PR guy, Sam, showed up later that day. They did get an extra mechanic later on but for the testing day it was just them two. The skill these guys have is just amazing to see, as is Mike's driving. Stretch came into the pits once and finished behind Mike, who was punted off AND had to pit. With some love from SCCA and Subaru, and of course us, this team is going to be dangerous.
Be sure to stop by their shop and give them some business to keep the race team alive. Scott has worked on both my cars and done an awesome job.[/QUOTE]
you're from RacePA right?
I showed up on Thursday and it was just Scott and Mike there. No one else. Their PR guy, Sam, showed up later that day. They did get an extra mechanic later on but for the testing day it was just them two. The skill these guys have is just amazing to see, as is Mike's driving. Stretch came into the pits once and finished behind Mike, who was punted off AND had to pit. With some love from SCCA and Subaru, and of course us, this team is going to be dangerous.
Be sure to stop by their shop and give them some business to keep the race team alive. Scott has worked on both my cars and done an awesome job.[/QUOTE]
you're from RacePA right?
| D.R. | 04-18-2005 11:17 PM |
[QUOTE=DILLIGAF Racing]you're from RacePA right?[/QUOTE]
Sure am. Let me geuss, Justin aka "I Eat Corvettes for Breakfast in AS"?
Sure am. Let me geuss, Justin aka "I Eat Corvettes for Breakfast in AS"?
| Ru fan | 04-19-2005 09:10 AM |
Can't wait till July 4th. Mike if you need some help...I have experience with both road racing and mechanics.
Later,
Seth E.
Later,
Seth E.
| DILLIGAF Racing | 04-19-2005 03:48 PM |
[QUOTE=D.R.]Sure am. Let me geuss, Justin aka "I Eat Corvettes for Breakfast in AS"?[/QUOTE]
no, actually Adam "I can't follow a course if my life depended on it" from McB Autosport. I'm friends with Habib.
no, actually Adam "I can't follow a course if my life depended on it" from McB Autosport. I'm friends with Habib.
| D.R. | 04-20-2005 01:30 AM |
[QUOTE=DILLIGAF Racing]no, actually Adam "I can't follow a course if my life depended on it" from McB Autosport. I'm friends with Habib.[/QUOTE]
Oh awesome. Did we ever meet?
I never realized how many STis are running around in PA.
But back to topic, I heard Mike is still 12th in the driver's championship? Awesome! A WRX driver in the top ten? Who knows?!
Oh awesome. Did we ever meet?
I never realized how many STis are running around in PA.
But back to topic, I heard Mike is still 12th in the driver's championship? Awesome! A WRX driver in the top ten? Who knows?!
| dmitrik4 | 04-21-2005 01:31 PM |
just watched my tape of the road atlanta race, and :eek: what a race. that was probably some of the best racing i've seen in a long time. the pobst/cunningham battle, and then the cunningham/espenlaub one, were incredible.
turns out that all it took to make the 6 as fast on the straights as everything else was 100lbs and another 10% smaller restrictor.
i think it's going to be a good season...i wouldn't be particularly surprised to see mike in the top 10 at the end of the season. eventually some good luck will cancel out the bad luck!
turns out that all it took to make the 6 as fast on the straights as everything else was 100lbs and another 10% smaller restrictor.
i think it's going to be a good season...i wouldn't be particularly surprised to see mike in the top 10 at the end of the season. eventually some good luck will cancel out the bad luck!
| Opie | 04-21-2005 09:01 PM |
Damn :mad: I was at Disney all last weekend and forgot to record the race! Anybody got a copy they'd be willing to send me?
Congrat's Irish Mike's! Good job!
Congrat's Irish Mike's! Good job!
| baileypicks24 | 04-22-2005 04:28 PM |
Man it stinks SCCA World Challenge isn't as popular as it should be...what great racing!
| hlindley | 04-22-2005 07:12 PM |
yes, great job to the whole I.M. team! we should start a paypal fund drive to help these guys out. How much do you think NASIOCers could raise? I'm guessing quite a bit if we could cross post to all of the forums here and get everyone excited.
| GarySheehan | 04-22-2005 07:14 PM |
What a novel idea ;)
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
| zzyzx | 04-22-2005 07:34 PM |
Speaking of that idea... what happened? :confused:
| MO REX | 04-22-2005 11:57 PM |
[QUOTE=hlindley]yes, great job to the whole I.M. team! we should start a paypal fund drive to help these guys out. How much do you think NASIOCers could raise? I'm guessing quite a bit if we could cross post to all of the forums here and get everyone excited.[/QUOTE]
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe we could get something going and IM could put a NASIOC decal on his car.
Gary
Are there are any plans to start televising the USTCC on speed TV?
BTW, If you plan on watching the San Marino grand prix practice and qualifying will be on Speed but I dont think they will show the race since it will be televised on a local channel.
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe we could get something going and IM could put a NASIOC decal on his car.
Gary
Are there are any plans to start televising the USTCC on speed TV?
BTW, If you plan on watching the San Marino grand prix practice and qualifying will be on Speed but I dont think they will show the race since it will be televised on a local channel.
| Butt Dyno | 04-23-2005 09:31 AM |
NASIOC did sponsor/sticker the leading ProRally car last year, so it's not unpossible.
| [email�protected] | 04-27-2005 09:35 PM |
I thought that idea was good when you guys where thinking of doing it for Gary. I just would of never tried that idea at the same time out of respect for him and the Nasioc community.
Doing it as a donation is kinda tricky, do to taxes, IRS, and such.
But a sponsor of sorts would be legit. I brought it up to Mike today when I read the idea, and with us being a SMALL funded team when it comes to World Challenge, we would never turn a sponsor idea down.
Here is an idea I had, We are starting to sell stickers, shirts, and hats, maybe for a certain amount (donation) you would get one or the other, or maybe all of the above. Or Nasioc combined money and the stickers on the car.
This is just an idea, please let me know. We could use all the help we can get to help us, we did not plan to do the west coast unless money permitted, but this could help us stay alive.
We would have never just come out and asked, so the mention and talk of it is really cool of you guys. THANK YOU.
Scott,
Irish Mikes Racing/ GPMoto
P.S. Please support GPMoto, and if you need product, contact us as we are now a dealer of sorts. (407) 282-9999, Orlando, FL
Doing it as a donation is kinda tricky, do to taxes, IRS, and such.
But a sponsor of sorts would be legit. I brought it up to Mike today when I read the idea, and with us being a SMALL funded team when it comes to World Challenge, we would never turn a sponsor idea down.
Here is an idea I had, We are starting to sell stickers, shirts, and hats, maybe for a certain amount (donation) you would get one or the other, or maybe all of the above. Or Nasioc combined money and the stickers on the car.
This is just an idea, please let me know. We could use all the help we can get to help us, we did not plan to do the west coast unless money permitted, but this could help us stay alive.
We would have never just come out and asked, so the mention and talk of it is really cool of you guys. THANK YOU.
Scott,
Irish Mikes Racing/ GPMoto
P.S. Please support GPMoto, and if you need product, contact us as we are now a dealer of sorts. (407) 282-9999, Orlando, FL
| goto_racing | 04-27-2005 10:45 PM |
[QUOTE=MO REX]Gary
Are there are any plans to start televising the USTCC on speed TV?
[/QUOTE]
There are plans in the works right now to get the USTCC round at the San Jose Grand Prix Televised! :banana:
Also, footage is being compiled of the first race at Cali Speedway to make a race recap type of special to be aired on FoxSports. Also there will be a internet based TV show.
Brian Lock
#44 Subydude.com USTCC Subaru WRX
[url]www.gotoracing.com[/url]
Are there are any plans to start televising the USTCC on speed TV?
[/QUOTE]
There are plans in the works right now to get the USTCC round at the San Jose Grand Prix Televised! :banana:
Also, footage is being compiled of the first race at Cali Speedway to make a race recap type of special to be aired on FoxSports. Also there will be a internet based TV show.
Brian Lock
#44 Subydude.com USTCC Subaru WRX
[url]www.gotoracing.com[/url]
| roadracer | 05-12-2005 03:52 PM |
For those interested in that sort of thing, this issue of SportsCar, the SCCA magazine, is loaded with pictures of Subarus and even features an ad for the Tire Rack Solo National Championship. On page 71 is a side bar article about the new rules for the SCCA Touring Series allowing "forced induction" into this class and a nice picture of Irish Mike's Racing #26 as he competed at Sebring. Michael Flynn is currently 12th in driver's point in the series, headed for the race at Mid-Ohio.
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