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JDM Rear Light Look (04+ Model) part 1

outferno 09-07-2005 07:12 PM

JDM Rear Light Look (04+ Model)
So, in my quest to make my car have a more authentic JDM appearance in the rear, I decided to remodify my tail lights.

The USDM tail lights for the 04-05 models light up on outside and the center circle lights up when the brakes are depressed. On the JDM model, (I was watching an Option Video and the JDM STi & JDM Spec C both had rear lights that lit up this way) the center circle is always on and only the very outside light comes on when the brakes are depressed.

USDM Tail Lights
[img]http://hub.noblehost.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10018/usdmrear.jpg[/img]

JDM Style Rear Lights / No Head Lights / Brakes On
[img]http://hub.noblehost.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10018/jdmrear000.jpg[/img]

JDM Style Rear Lights Head Lights On / Brakes Off
[img]http://hub.noblehost.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10018/jdmrear001.jpg[/img]

JDM Style Rear Lights Head Lights On / Brakes On
[img]http://hub.noblehost.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10018/jdmrear002.jpg[/img]

Notice how the circle is only lit when your head lights are on. That's the way it's supposed to light up; and only the outside portion will light up during braking w/ your 3rd center mounted high brake light.

Note: Tutorial coming soon as I have time.

Signed,
Charlie
kennyvb 09-07-2005 07:27 PM

[URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/7500/934ko.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

Nice. I replaced the dual-filament bulb in the corner with a single to get something like the WRC...
WRXEDIT87 09-07-2005 07:43 PM

looks good
sifugd7 09-07-2005 07:51 PM

Just did that the other day...looks good :D
slowscooby 09-07-2005 07:57 PM

[QUOTE=kennyvb][URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/7500/934ko.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

Nice. I replaced the dual-filament bulb in the corner with a single to get something like the WRC...[/QUOTE]


Thats a badass pic....
Blue Rabbit 02 09-07-2005 09:47 PM

that's pretty intuitive, and it works, even better. looks pretty cool man....

...and the jdm'ers will flock.
outferno 09-07-2005 11:05 PM

Ah yeah, I love this mod. I've already got a lot of requests for a DIY. I'll post that up in the next few weeks.

Signed,
Charlie
Danbob 09-07-2005 11:20 PM

I heard that all you have to do to make your lights like this is switch the bulbs with the wiring harnesses still attached to them. I thnk that there is enough slack in the harness to just switch them if I am not mistaken. I have to try iit soon - looks hot!
outferno 09-08-2005 05:21 AM

[QUOTE=Danbob]I heard that all you have to do to make your lights like this is switch the bulbs with the wiring harnesses still attached to them. I thnk that there is enough slack in the harness to just switch them if I am not mistaken. I have to try iit soon - looks hot![/QUOTE]

Close but not quite.

Just to make it clear, here's a brief write up of what I did:

1. Remove both rear lights
2. Unplug both harnesses
3. Swap harnesses on each side
4. Wire new grounds, there isn't enough slack to do it simply like that.
5. Cut portions of the bulb cup to make them fit correctly and so you can take them back out when you need to replace a bulb.
6. Test one side, if it works, move on to next one and use same procedure.
7. Put it all back together, stand back with the parking lights on, and admire your work.
8. Bonus: if you got someone around, ask them to press your brake pedal. It's a nice change :)

Signed,
Charlie
WR^2X 09-08-2005 07:39 AM

Wow, very cool! Going to have to try this out.
Ghost Rider 09-08-2005 09:40 AM

i'm sorry, i can't quite tell from the pic. do the cricles get brighter with the brakes depressed???
SupraToWRX 09-08-2005 12:47 PM

I did this to my wrx about a year ago. I didn't swap harnesses or anything, just cut and rewired the outside light to the circle part and the circle part to the outside light. And I think you have to take out the middle light, too.
outferno 09-08-2005 01:15 PM

Ghost Rider: Absolutely. The mod changes the most outside bulb (dual filament) to the inside circle, so when the lights are on, it's already on the first filament, when the brakes are depressed, the second filament makes it brighter. The original single filament in the circle will now be on the most outside lights of the brakes, making the original dual filament a single filament bulb.

Signed,
Charlie
coolblue05 09-08-2005 01:31 PM

Very nice work, any more details on the wiring?
outferno 09-08-2005 01:52 PM

I'll post a tutorial as soon as I get my hands on another set to mod in my area. Until then, that's about it :)

Signed,
Charlie
RedlineWRX04 09-08-2005 02:11 PM

I like it alot! Please write up a diy post.
darioc 09-08-2005 10:41 PM

tutorial please
outferno 09-09-2005 02:25 AM

Hahaha, yes, tutorial is coming soon guys. Please be patient :)

Signed,
Charlie
Mycues1982 09-09-2005 02:55 AM

Looks Sweet, GJ. Might have to do this mod to my STi as well.
Ghost Rider 09-09-2005 08:18 AM

[QUOTE=outferno]Ghost Rider: Absolutely. The mod changes the most outside bulb (dual filament) to the inside circle, so when the lights are on, it's already on the first filament, when the brakes are depressed, the second filament makes it brighter. The original single filament in the circle will now be on the most outside lights of the brakes, making the original dual filament a single filament bulb.

Signed,
Charlie[/QUOTE]



ahhhh, looks good
grimm5577 09-09-2005 08:33 AM

it's cool I suppose...
I'd make sure you still pass inspection though. They can be strict at times, I failed when i did a similar thing to my hondas tail lights.
outferno 09-09-2005 01:28 PM

Assuming I don't get pulled over in the next 4 years, I should be fine on inspections :)
outferno 09-12-2005 12:48 AM

Fixed the rear lights so they're 100% correct.

Signed,
Charlie
aspitfire 09-14-2005 06:14 PM

[QUOTE=outferno]Hahaha, yes, tutorial is coming soon guys. Please be patient :)

Signed,
Charlie[/QUOTE]

any update?
imprezive one 09-14-2005 09:15 PM

that looks awesome!
Phy6 09-14-2005 09:31 PM

Nice mod!! Looks great!
PhilKaiser 09-14-2005 10:51 PM

that does look awesome
AWDrifter21 09-14-2005 11:49 PM

defintely a sweet easy mod.....
i might try it out.. ^^
ekw 09-15-2005 07:33 AM

question for outferno:
when i moved the carpet away to check out the tails in my 04 STi,
i saw a number of 'wire taps' (plastic splices).
i suspect this must be the handiwork of the prior owner.
my lights operate in the USDM fashion.
can you tell me if the normal Subaru wiring is just 'straight' wire w/ no taps, etc?
thanks.
Drav 09-15-2005 10:43 AM

Bumping for tutorial!
franke3c 09-18-2005 01:30 AM

I just did this today,
A bit differently though, I extended the harness for each side so that it can reach opposing side, cut the bulb cups a bit.

Although I realized that the middle lights are dual filaments, but the second filament doesnt light up with the brakes depressed. Is this normal?
Bishop 09-18-2005 01:50 AM

someone post a write-up w/pics over at scoobymods....
Homerisking 09-18-2005 01:50 AM

[QUOTE=J*Bishop]someone post a write-up w/pics over at scoobymods....[/QUOTE]

+1 w/ pics pleazzzzeee
WR^2X 09-18-2005 12:26 PM

Bump for a great idea!
Just did this mod this morning... Took about 1.5 hours to get everything taken apart, rewired, and put back together. Looks great!
outferno 09-23-2005 01:46 PM

[QUOTE=ekw]question for outferno:
when i moved the carpet away to check out the tails in my 04 STi,
i saw a number of 'wire taps' (plastic splices).
i suspect this must be the handiwork of the prior owner.
my lights operate in the USDM fashion.
can you tell me if the normal Subaru wiring is just 'straight' wire w/ no taps, etc?
thanks.[/QUOTE]

I'm not quite sure what you mean by taps. My stock harness was put together with electrical tape and a few crimped copper pieces from the factory *shrugs* I figure it was just easier for them to get it all to fit in that way. Perhaps a picture would help?

Signed,
Charlie
outferno 09-23-2005 01:46 PM

[QUOTE=franke3c]I just did this today,
A bit differently though, I extended the harness for each side so that it can reach opposing side, cut the bulb cups a bit.

Although I realized that the middle lights are dual filaments, but the second filament doesnt light up with the brakes depressed. Is this normal?[/QUOTE]

The way it looks is: the outside bulbs will become a single filament, only comes on when brakes are depressed. The middle bulb will be removed, and the circular portion should only come on when the lights or parking lights are on.

Signed,
Charlie
outferno 09-23-2005 01:48 PM

[QUOTE=WR^2X]Bump for a great idea!
Just did this mod this morning... Took about 1.5 hours to get everything taken apart, rewired, and put back together. Looks great![/QUOTE]

People have been telling me they've been able to do this in 5 minutes a side, max. I call boosheist on that.

1.5 hours sounds about right to take out the assemblies on both sides, to rewire/put back together.

Signed,
Charlie
tool1128 09-23-2005 02:51 PM

thats amazing!
advanracing62 09-24-2005 01:24 PM

didn't take 1.5 hours.. more like 30 min. Swapped the bulbs and extended the wires- done... looks ok- doubt many people will notice it though.
cannibal869 09-24-2005 02:16 PM

check out this [URL=http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112557]thread[/URL] also - a little easier than totally rewiring the whole thing.
For the JDM look, you can do the WRXBABY switch.
If you still want the round lights to light up with the brake while maintaining somewhat of a "hybrid" USDM-JDM look, then you can do the blinker light extension posted at the end of the thread.

-C
Bishop 09-24-2005 02:33 PM

[QUOTE=cannibal869]check out this [url="http://www.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112557"]thread[/url] also - a little easier than totally rewiring the whole thing.
For the JDM look, you can do the WRXBABY switch.
If you still want the round lights to light up with the brake while maintaining somewhat of a "hybrid" USDM-JDM look, then you can do the blinker light extension posted at the end of the thread.

-C[/QUOTE]

linky no worky
cannibal869 09-24-2005 02:57 PM

for some reason the link function on nasioc is screwing up.

[url]http://www.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112557&page=1&pp=20[/url]

cut and paste I guess.

[URL=http://www.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112557&page=1&pp=20]http://www.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112557&page=1&pp=20[/URL]

Hmm... still screwing up
"http://www.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112557&page=1&pp=20"
that is so weird - replace the "nasioc" with "i-club" instead and it should work.
Bishop 09-24-2005 03:02 PM

lol you should know you can't post links from i-club to nasico silly.....



i found it on i-club thx
SiFuSpEc 09-24-2005 09:47 PM

Honestly on the best motoring video's I think they used the lower filament (not the bright one like the first post) if you look closely at the video they aren't brighter or as bright as the outside lights.. I did the mod from i-club and it worked well, might just cut the wire that makes it light the auxilary, and bam JDM tails.
runwrxrun 09-25-2005 03:32 AM

Yo charlie! I met you at that one meet near the automall. Those taillights are quite awesome in person. Very unique. It gives the rear end a better and more aggressive look IMO. Much, much better than usdm lighting style. Sweetness.
scoobdude 09-25-2005 05:48 PM

quick question. isn't the outside light supposed to light up with the parking lights as a side marker? i believe the 04s may have a seperate bulb, but not sure on this.

Joe
RumblingREX 09-25-2005 07:24 PM

I just did the mod this morning! Thanks for the idea.

I just exchanged the two outside bulbs. I had to cut out the black ground wires and add extensions. I removed the center bulb. I still wanted a set of brake lights on each side in case I lose one.

For reference, the two harnesses are exactly the same, just flipped over.
cannibal869 09-25-2005 09:17 PM

[QUOTE=scoobdude]quick question. isn't the outside light supposed to light up with the parking lights as a side marker? i believe the 04s may have a seperate bulb, but not sure on this.

Joe[/QUOTE]


Hi Joe,

I believe you are right. The stock USDM outside bulb (which is now located in the round taillight) will light up with the parking lights. I will have to check to see if the round taillight will be visible from the side. Good point.

-Chris
ekw 09-25-2005 10:58 PM

outferno,
i mean taps like a plastic crimp connector that 'splices' in a new wire.
it almost looks like someone (previous owner) was pulling a U-Haul and needed to tap into the rear lights & brakes.

looks like there are 2 variations going on this now?
i will have to look into the parking light potion, tho i never drive w/ just my parking lights. headlights or nothing for me.
outferno 09-25-2005 11:24 PM

Thanks runwrxrun, as for a write up, Cannibal did a pretty good write up on how to do the mod. Though it's not truly the JDM look, it's very close. That's the way I had it before, but for my own personal liking, I chose to make it look exactly like the JDM ones.

Joe: to answer your question, when the auxillary/parking lights are on for the USDM model, both the center light and the outside light are on. The circular light on the USDM model only lights up when brakes are engaged. The outside lights will also become brighter on the USDM model when the brakes are engaged (dual filament).

Signed,
Charlie
Handsdown 10-03-2005 01:59 AM

okay, so here's what i want to know-

is JDM for 2002-2003 any different? i seem to remember that only the inside lights light up during braking... does anyone have some option/best motoring videos they can look at to find out?

i did this-

switch the outside light with the middle light on each side... this way the running lights are the same, but when you press the brakes it looks like this-
[img]http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9692/tailmod8xv.jpg[/img]

so does anyone know how JDM 02 lights work?



in bestmotoring Factory Fighters the STI v-limited (04) has brake lights that are only the outside position, not the middle or circle.
running lights(headlights on) are the same, here's proof- [url]http://www.performancecardvds.com/products/bmi/vol5/photos/019.jpg[/url]
ekw 10-06-2005 02:57 PM

Well, I finally got around to modding my tail lights last Friday night.
I took a slightly different approach then what i have seen so far.
Swapped the outside bulbs & sockets like most of the others i have seen on here. For the center light, i cut the tail light wire, so it only functions as a brake light.

So, I have single round tail lights, and all three red lights for maximum brake light visibility.
I know this is not proper "JDM".
Just my own little variation on the theme.

As a side note, who ever owned the car before me had definitely been up to something in there! there were 4 wire taps (brake, back up, tail light & both turn signals) so maybe they had a U-haul or something.

More interesting, when I went to cut the tail light wire on the center socket, I unwound the electrical tape and discovered someone had cut the brake light wire to the center light on both sides. so they had stock tail lights, but no brake light in the center position.
So I had to repair that & cut the other wire. I wanted to just switch the tail light wire into the brake light 'hole' on the connector, but it did not want to come out w/o a fuss, and I did not want to force it.

the lack of rear 'side marker' light w/ outside position as brake light only is a small concern. but i like the way the lights came out.
RumblingREX 10-06-2005 08:06 PM

I ended up swapping the outer and inner bulbs and sockets and removing the bulb from the middle. I had to extend the groung wires though. Looks Gud!
Handsdown 10-06-2005 10:39 PM

does anyone have best motoring 5 impreza vs lancer final battle? it's a battle with the JDM Version7 STI... i would like to have it but if anyone can tell me what the tail configuration is i'd really appreciate it.
kokob 10-07-2005 01:03 AM

did it lat night hella easy, no soldering, no cutting just moving around. HELLA TIGHT!!!
JPaul99GT 10-07-2005 03:45 PM

if you are worried about not having rear sidemarkers you could probably get some sidemarkers off ebay and put red bulbs in them. or source them from another car...
[IMG]http://tinypic.com/eb4e8h.jpg[/IMG]
dunno if thats your thing but it would be different...

~JPaul

.... and yes i know thats an acura.. but my grandfater has one and its the first example i thought of.
ekw 10-07-2005 03:53 PM

JPaul,
i am looking at some kind of side marker,
but have not decided yet.
don't know if there is some piece from an older Sube that might suit me.
i saw the JDM stuff is spendy.

i have to check out car in dark from side & see if it has some lind of reflector effect on side of tail light at least.
SUBIETUNING 10-07-2005 04:06 PM

[QUOTE=kokob]did it lat night hella easy, no soldering, no cutting just moving around. HELLA TIGHT!!![/QUOTE]

Tried this today on our WRX and it was impossible to get the right bulb and socket to the left (round bump out placement) space without having to add additional wiring.

Can you explain what process you took?

Thanks!

Manny
[email][email�protected][/email]
[url]www.subietuning.com[/url]
ekw 10-11-2005 11:58 AM

Manny,
i am wondering if they swapped the entire harness left for right.
?
SUBIETUNING 10-11-2005 12:00 PM

Actually ended up doing this and we swapped the outside socket with the inside one, bulbs as well, and extended the black/ground wire to make the inside one fit. We pulled the middle one out.

Braking with no lights on now causes the round and outside to come on.....not sure what happened there.

Manny

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