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JDM Rear Light Look (04+ Model) part 2

ScoobyincIsaMoron 10-11-2005 12:52 PM

looks ok.
ekw 10-11-2005 01:02 PM

Manny,
that sounds 'normal'.
outside is now full time brake light only,
inside (round) is dual filament tail light / brake light combo.
and of course, your missing center bulb does nothing all the time. :-)

did you want a different no lights/ brakes on look?
ATX25RS 10-11-2005 05:36 PM

[QUOTE=franke3c]Although I realized that the middle lights are dual filaments, but the second filament doesnt light up with the brakes depressed. Is this normal?[/QUOTE]

a thread in electrical and lighting says that it is supposed to be for rear foglights in the edm versions. many people have bought the switch and wired it in...
SUBIETUNING 10-11-2005 08:28 PM

[QUOTE=ekw]Manny,
that sounds 'normal'.
outside is now full time brake light only,
inside (round) is dual filament tail light / brake light combo.
and of course, your missing center bulb does nothing all the time. :-)

did you want a different no lights/ brakes on look?[/QUOTE]

I was looking at the top post that had only the outside bulbs on for brake lights. Although, I really do prefer how these turned out:)

Thanks for tip guys!


Manny
[email][email�protected][/email]
[url]www.subietuning.com[/url]
Bishop 10-11-2005 08:53 PM

more pics guys.....
Phy6 10-12-2005 10:27 AM

[QUOTE=ATX25RS]a thread in electrical and lighting says that it is supposed to be for[B] rear foglights [/B] in the edm versions. many people have bought the switch and wired it in...[/QUOTE] :huh: :huh:
For tailgaters? Or for going backwards in the fog?
GeorgeRex 10-12-2005 01:52 PM

[QUOTE=Phy6]:huh: :huh:
For tailgaters? Or for going backwards in the fog?[/QUOTE]

You haven't experienced driving in fog ? The rear fogs are for the driver behind you... :huh:
civilone 10-14-2005 03:24 AM

wow. that looks HAWT!
DayOfPain 10-14-2005 12:09 PM

did mine a bit different. inner most light is dual filament. with running and brake, then the middle lights and outside lights both light up when brakes are on.

so running light = inner round lights.
brake lights = all three

i likey alot.
ATX25RS 10-14-2005 03:43 PM

[QUOTE=GeorgeRex]You haven't experienced driving in fog ? The rear fogs are for the driver behind you... :huh:[/QUOTE]
ditto... :rolleyes:
2phless 10-14-2005 06:23 PM

This thread inspired me.

I have a peeve with cars that have reverse lights that are only good for "signaling reverse" instead of actaully illuminating the path behind you. I swapped some of my lights around so that:

A: I have both clear top sections used as reverse lights.

B: I used the trailer wiring box to integrate the turn and brake lights so they only need one filament. (Like most older american cars... and trailers for that matter.)

One nice advantage is that I don't need an amber bulb back there anymore (so I can get rid of the dim LED bulb.)

Inner circle and next out is tail light (might switch to just the circle though) The inner circle has my amber LEDs in it right now since I don't have another set of clear bulbs at the moment. Looks nifty when red lights orange, but I'm not keeping it. A picky cop might give me guff.

[IMG]http://x1.putfile.com/10/28617141260.jpg[/IMG]

Just the brakes on.

[IMG]http://x1.putfile.com/10/2861719549.jpg[/IMG]


Brakes and left turn (blinking off)

[IMG]http://x1.putfile.com/10/28617131728.jpg[/IMG]

And the Coup d'etat, REAL reverse lights. I've got an hour of daylight left, and then I'm driving around town backwards!

[IMG]http://x1.putfile.com/10/28617124191.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://x1.putfile.com/10/28617221128.jpg[/IMG]
SiFuSpEc 10-14-2005 07:12 PM

^^ Nice, i'll be making a DIY tonight that shows the correct way the lights should look, and how to do it..

With pictures from Best Motoring incase you were wondering how it looks in Japan..
jcdrenguis 10-14-2005 07:20 PM

[QUOTE=Handsdown]does anyone have best motoring 5 impreza vs lancer final battle? it's a battle with the JDM Version7 STI... i would like to have it but if anyone can tell me what the tail configuration is i'd really appreciate it.[/QUOTE]
Here's a couple screen captures:
[IMG]http://www.jcdrenguis.com/nasioc/GDB_STi_lights_on.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.jcdrenguis.com/nasioc/GDB_STi_lights_on_braking.jpg[/IMG]
Lights On__________________Lights On and Braking_____
Bishop 10-15-2005 04:57 AM

[QUOTE=SiFuSpEc]^^ Nice, i'll be making a DIY tonight that shows the correct way the lights should look, and how to do it..

With pictures from Best Motoring incase you were wondering how it looks in Japan..[/QUOTE]

lookin forward to it!! :banana:
EarlQHan 10-15-2005 10:13 AM

[QUOTE=jcdrenguis]Here's a couple screen captures:
[IMG]http://www.jcdrenguis.com/nasioc/GDB_STi_lights_on.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.jcdrenguis.com/nasioc/GDB_STi_lights_on_braking.jpg[/IMG]
Lights On__________________Lights On and Braking_____[/QUOTE]

Isn't that exactly how the usdm ones work? outside are lit, and inside are brake lights?
jcdrenguis 10-15-2005 06:14 PM

Nope, they're different.
hlanderr 10-15-2005 06:19 PM

that really does look sick.... i have a WRX sedan might i might look into doing that sometime
00Maddog 10-16-2005 07:45 PM

can someone post up a screen capture of the jdm newer style similar to the bugeye style posted above? thanks in advance. I plan on doing this but i only want to do it once.

if the center red light is for fogs, it's a autobahn light. they're used (one side only) to alert fast drivers you are going slow, when you pull into the fast lane to pass even slower traffic. volvos have them, as well as some other european imports.
SparkysJDMSpeedWagon 10-16-2005 09:46 PM

Are there any differences between US and JDM wagon lights like this? Sounds pretty cool to me. I know that Euro wagons have red in the right reverse light, as a rear fog/autobahn light, but do the brake lights light up any different?
civilone 10-16-2005 11:45 PM

That is awesome looking
wrxgrillin 10-17-2005 04:18 AM

where can i find a set of 044 jdm tail lights
wrxgrillin 10-17-2005 04:19 AM

whoops 04*
00Maddog 10-17-2005 05:31 AM

ok i did it tonight, took less than 5 minutes, as my trunk liner was already loose lol.

it is very easy without any cutting + extending wires, or swapping harnesses or removing taillights.

move the plugs like this:

say when you start out, looking at the drivers taillight from the rear of the car, that the outside light is #1, the middle #2, and the round lens inner one is #3.

swap them so now left to right they are #'s 3, 1, 2

and remove the bulb from socket 1.

everything will fit, and without stretching things!

great mod, should be a sticky!!
Spooln4 10-17-2005 06:22 AM

i did mine right after him^^^ this **** looks soooo much meanier when lit up at night... :devil:
Spooln4 10-17-2005 06:29 AM

[QUOTE=outferno]Close but not quite.

Just to make it clear, here's a brief write up of what I did:

1. Remove both rear lights
2. Unplug both harnesses
3. Swap harnesses on each side
4. Wire new grounds, there isn't enough slack to do it simply like that.
5. Cut portions of the bulb cup to make them fit correctly and so you can take them back out when you need to replace a bulb.
6. Test one side, if it works, move on to next one and use same procedure.
7. Put it all back together, stand back with the parking lights on, and admire your work.
8. Bonus: if you got someone around, ask them to press your brake pedal. It's a nice change :)

Signed,
Charlie[/QUOTE]

The new tutorial is now 2 posts up...by 00Maddog (good local!) you do NOT need to remove the lights or the the harness' there is enough slack in the wiring, just rearrange the bulbs like he said above and there you have it...THA HOTTNESS :banana:
white-shadow 10-17-2005 08:08 AM

too bad wagons are reversed ... white part on the bottom with the circle light...red ontop
Bishop 10-17-2005 12:46 PM

[QUOTE=white-shadow]too bad wagons are reversed ... white part on the bottom with the circle light...red ontop[/QUOTE]

yeah, i'd like to see some pics and/or a write up for an 04 wagon.
thorongil 10-17-2005 03:53 PM

[QUOTE=white-shadow]too bad wagons are reversed ... white part on the bottom with the circle light...red ontop[/QUOTE]
My thoughts exactly. Come to think of it, I'm not even sure I know what a wagon looks like from the rear at night. If we wanted the look that badly, I guess we could always lay down the cash for new sedan tails, or find a good used pair from the junkyard or somebody replacing theirs with ricer tails.
ATX25RS 10-17-2005 04:23 PM

[QUOTE=wrxgrillin]where can i find a set of 044 jdm tail lights[/QUOTE]
JDM taillights are visibly the same.
GeorgeRex 10-17-2005 06:45 PM

[QUOTE=00Maddog]ok i did it tonight, took less than 5 minutes, as my trunk liner was already loose lol.

it is very easy without any cutting + extending wires, or swapping harnesses or removing taillights.

move the plugs like this:

say when you start out, looking at the drivers taillight from the rear of the car, that the outside light is #1, the middle #2, and the round lens inner one is #3.

swap them so now left to right they are #'s 3, 1, 2

and remove the bulb from socket 1.

everything will fit, and without stretching things!

great mod, should be a sticky!![/QUOTE]


This works great - thanks.

I didn't like giving up a brake light so I swapped the single filament bulbs from the reverse lamps into the lower middle sockets (called #1 above) and the dual filament bulbs from the lower middle sockets into the reverse lamp sockets. Now you get tail lights only in the circular lens and brake lights in the two outboard lenses.
jcdrenguis 10-17-2005 08:59 PM

Ok, we all seem to be on the right page, but here's a quick review.

In reference to the USDM '04 '05 tail lights, here's some screen captures of the JDM tails:

[IMG]http://www.jcdrenguis.com/nasioc/S203_lights_off_braking.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.jcdrenguis.com/nasioc/STi_spec_C_lights_on.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.jcdrenguis.com/nasioc/STi_spec_C_lights_on_brakin.jpg[/IMG]
S203 lights off braking__________Spec C lights on_____________Spec C lights on braking

And in referecne to the USDM '02 '03 tails, here's the screens of the JDMs:

[IMG]http://www.jcdrenguis.com/nasioc/GDB_braking.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.jcdrenguis.com/nasioc/GDB_STi_lights_on.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.jcdrenguis.com/nasioc/GDB_STi_lights_on_braking.jpg[/IMG]
Spec C lights off braking________Spec C lights on____________Spec C lights on braking
Bishop 10-17-2005 09:28 PM

thank you!!
fasterthanrayswrx 10-17-2005 10:24 PM

[QUOTE=Spooln4]i did mine right after him^^^ this **** looks soooo much meanier when lit up at night... :devil:[/QUOTE]
werd
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v506/fasterthanrayswrx/evilsti.jpg[/IMG]
The car looks pi$$ed
krambte79 10-18-2005 12:26 AM

cool mod ill have to try that
SiFuSpEc 10-18-2005 03:01 PM

[QUOTE=jcdrenguis]Ok, we all seem to be on the right page, but here's a quick review.

In reference to the USDM '04 '05 tail lights, here's some screen captures of the JDM tails:

[IMG]http://www.jcdrenguis.com/nasioc/S203_lights_off_braking.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.jcdrenguis.com/nasioc/STi_spec_C_lights_on.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.jcdrenguis.com/nasioc/STi_spec_C_lights_on_brakin.jpg[/IMG]
S203 lights off braking__________Spec C lights on_____________Spec C lights on braking

And in referecne to the USDM '02 '03 tails, here's the screens of the JDMs:

[IMG]http://www.jcdrenguis.com/nasioc/GDB_braking.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.jcdrenguis.com/nasioc/GDB_STi_lights_on.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.jcdrenguis.com/nasioc/GDB_STi_lights_on_braking.jpg[/IMG]
Spec C lights off braking________Spec C lights on____________Spec C lights on braking[/QUOTE]

Must be nice to have a program to take shots during play; damn mac.. :(

Well here's my taillights, I took the shots with a camera, but his is clearly shown that the middle circles ARE NOT the bright you get when you hit the brake, it's just the normal running, which is what that one DIY posted tells exactly how you do it.

[img]http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/6011/jdmrearlights5xw.gif[/img]
2phless 10-19-2005 12:24 AM

Filament control.

Here's me latest setup. Did some flipping and flopping with wires and bulbs. It's not JDM. It's ToophDM.

Since I can use the turn and brake filaments either together or seperately I mixed them. The Amber LEDs are in the middle section and are only used as single filament turn indicators. The rounds are dual filament 'dim' parking and 'brighter' brake (not turn) and the outers are 'bright' turn and 'bright' brake single filament(oscillating when brake and turn are on at the same time)

Reverse are of course bright, single filament in the top two clear spots.

First the layout:

[IMG]http://x10.putfile.com/10/29023103666.jpg[/IMG]

And the premier of the movie: Sorry about the nauseating autofocus and my hack editing.

[url=http://media.putfile.com/editedtaillights]Link to tail lights in action[/url]
EarlQHan 10-19-2005 02:45 AM

That's pretty ToophDM tyte yo! I like.
ATX25RS 10-19-2005 03:18 AM

alternating.blinkers?
ilnmcom 10-19-2005 05:28 AM

I just did mine and it took longer to lossen the carpet than it took to do the swap.

Awesome little mod!
antny 10-20-2005 02:02 AM

did mine in about 10 minutes also no cutting no splicing just re arranged some bulbs
scoobdude 10-28-2005 10:34 PM

i went more for the spec c (02-03) look and here is what i did which is easy enough for me. when you pull the bulb out of the corner (parking/brake) just cut the contacts off the bulb that lead to the bigger coil inside. this will leave the lights in (PPB) (BPP). [p=parking] [b=brake] this is how most european cars are and is how i like it.

plus it leaves the dual contact bulb in the middle for the rear foglights (if you want to add them later).

also leaves you side marker for inspection time and give the cops one less reason to pull you over.

Joe
AWDrifter21 11-26-2005 01:47 PM

[QUOTE=00Maddog]ok i did it tonight, took less than 5 minutes, as my trunk liner was already loose lol.

it is very easy without any cutting + extending wires, or swapping harnesses or removing taillights.

move the plugs like this:

say when you start out, looking at the drivers taillight from the rear of the car, that the outside light is #1, the middle #2, and the round lens inner one is #3.

swap them so now left to right they are #'s 3, 1, 2

and remove the bulb from socket 1.

everything will fit, and without stretching things!

great mod, should be a sticky!![/QUOTE]

not to bring up an old thread, BUT
everything was done as stated above...
"it is very easy without any cutting + extending wires, or swapping harnesses or removing taillights."
BUT also the sockets did not fit up correctly and need some trimming...
how did you do it without trimming the sockets???
took less than 5 minutes a side, not including trimming.
fasterthanrayswrx 11-27-2005 12:40 AM

are you sure that they needed trimming?
Mine went in without trimming but it was a tough fit because there are was barely enough play in the wires.
ilnmcom 11-27-2005 12:41 AM

[QUOTE=fasterthanrayswrx]are you sure that they needed trimming?
Mine went in without trimming but it was a tough fit because there are was barely enough play in the wires.[/QUOTE]

I didn't have to trim any sockets either. (I have an 03 car with 04 lights for reference.)
Alvin 11-27-2005 12:54 AM

damn looks sick
drifterATheart 11-27-2005 01:57 AM

just did it tonight, took me only 5 mins. i like the way it looks this way better :D
WR^2X 11-27-2005 03:30 AM

Those of you who managed to not trim the sockets: Have you tried removing the sockets since then? I found that at least one of the sockets [i]could[/i] go in without trimming it, but getting it back out was nearly impossible.
twentynine 11-27-2005 04:04 AM

[QUOTE=WR^2X]Those of you who managed to not trim the sockets: Have you tried removing the sockets since then? I found that at least one of the sockets [i]could[/i] go in without trimming it, but getting it back out was nearly impossible.[/QUOTE]

A pair of pliers (not long nosed) and some elbow grease works for me. Turn the socket counter-clockwise, then grasp one of the flat plastic parts near where the wires come out and pull straight out.

Doing this with a bulb in the socket could prove messy though. If you're not careful you could break a bulb in your housing or even a filament. I'd suggest trimming the socket before using it again if you can manage to get it out.
ronf 11-27-2005 09:41 AM

[QUOTE=GeorgeRex]
I didn't like giving up a brake light so I swapped the single filament bulbs from the reverse lamps into the lower middle sockets (called #1 above) and the dual filament bulbs from the lower middle sockets into the reverse lamp sockets. Now you get tail lights only in the circular lens and brake lights in the two outboard lenses.[/QUOTE]
Like the idea for safety reasons, especially during the day.
Just did it last night ( on my 04 tail I swapped) and used the monofilament bulbs from my old 03 taillight into the lower middle sockets. So cooool.
I think eventually I will replace this lower middle socket bulb with an LED so
you get a sequential effect when you brake.(LED light up first)
njskatchmo 11-27-2005 08:40 PM

Is that possible with an 02?
NC2.5RS 11-27-2005 11:39 PM

That looks so awesome.
grannyshifter 11-28-2005 03:29 AM

i did mine today and it looks sweet!!! :disco:
105wrx 11-28-2005 09:15 PM

did mine the other day except made them look different since i want mine to be unique heh..
BGPKR 11-29-2005 03:33 PM

This is on the "to do" list.
ShortThrow 12-13-2005 01:42 AM

I need to bump this with a warning;

I just tried to do the left light on my 04 sti to the following

outerleft-brakelight
center-none
inner(circle)-tail/brake

When I was doing it i quickly figured out that my wires would not stretch far enough. So I cut the proper take in trying to lengthen them. It would have worked except there is a wire that connects the BLINKER light and the ORIGINAL tail light, the wire is the power wire. They appeared to be 2 seperate wires just taped together, but i soon found out that they are bound together down at the actual metal wiring by some bind, so i had to cut and splice ect. ANOTHER PROBLEM! In order for the blinker now to funtion properly is must still be connected to the ORIGINAL tail light power wire (otherwise it will flash at less than half strength and some how cause the right turn blinker to flash at less than half strength) SO WARNING DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS IN A SHORT PERIOD IF TIME BECAUSE WIRINGS HAVE BEEN INCONSISTANT AMOUNG NEWER MODELS!
jal723 12-13-2005 01:53 AM

So do you mean you cut the power wire accidentally?

I did mine yesterday with no problems at all.... just need to cut off some tape to lengthen the wiring~!

took me about 30 minutes!!

Very nice mod!!
ShortThrow 12-13-2005 02:17 AM

No, the wires were bound together with some type of solder/metal bind so i had to splice and add my own wires to lengthen. I dont know why my wires were long enough but yeah, they werent
ATX25RS 12-14-2005 11:36 PM

well i finally got around to this....i just swapped the bulbs around. these are the driving lamps. the brake lights do the outside two

[URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8598/taillights0rz.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
gqchynaboy 12-15-2005 12:23 AM

[QUOTE=ATX25RS]well i finally got around to this....i just swapped the bulbs around. these are the driving lamps. the brake lights do the outside two

[URL=http://imageshack.us][IMG]http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8598/taillights0rz.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/QUOTE]


I just did mines tonight too, it was a little bish getting the bulbs in the sockets, and trying to pull the wires far enough to reach. But it looks good :banana:
NewShockerGuy 12-15-2005 12:39 AM

[QUOTE=gqchynaboy]I just did mines tonight too, it was a little bish getting the bulbs in the sockets, and trying to pull the wires far enough to reach. But it looks good :banana:[/QUOTE]


So that I understand, the by doing this mod, the circles are now the "driving' red lights.... when the lights are turned on and the OUTSIDES far corners of the brake lights illuminate when the pedal is depressed?

That does really look good!

Now looking at the "S203 lights off braking" I really like that look too... lol

-Nigel

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