| Ferg | 07-09-2006 11:36 AM |
Montoya dumps F1 for NASCAR
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[QUOTE]Montoya switches to NASCAR with Ganassi
By Jonathan Noble Sunday, July 9th 2006, 14:35 GMT
Juan Pablo Montoya
Juan Pablo Montoya has decided to turn his back on Formula One at the end of the season and will make a switch to NASCAR next year, autosport.com can reveal.
The McLaren driver's future has been the subject of intense speculation for months, as it appeared his options to remain in Grand Prix racing were narrowing.
But Montoya has now inked a deal with Chip Ganassi Racing to compete in Nextel Cup as of next year - and autosport.com understands that it is a long term one.
Montoya enjoyed a successful relationship with Ganassi when he captured the 1999 CART championship and the 2000 Indianapolis 500 crown.
Recently Ganassi said he would be interested in recruiting the Colombian, but it had been thought that this was for his Indy Racing League outfit.
However, sources close to Montoya have revealed that talks between the driver and his former team boss have focused on a move to NASCAR, with Chip Ganassi Racing having been looking for a replacement for Casey Mears.
Those talks have culminated this weekend in a deal being signed, with Montoya taking over the No. 42 car from the start of next season.
Although Montoya has never raced a NASCAR, he did spend some time behind the wheel of Jeff Gordon's Monte Carlo during a promotional activity at Indianapolis in June 2003.
Sources close to Montoya have indicated that Montoya became excited by the option of NASCAR when it was presented to him last month. "He's just glad to be going back home," said one source.
Montoya said recently that he was far from concerned about his future in motor racing - and admitted that 'anything was possible' in terms of where he would be racing.
"Well I am quite relaxed," said Montoya when asked about his feelings on getting a deal for next year. "I am looking at my options and we will see what happens. I am not too worried about anything. Nothing is sure but I am pretty happy."
When asked if he was confident he would remain in F1, Montoya said: "I don't know. I am looking at all my options and we will see what happens.
"I am not too worried about it. I am trying to put myself in the best position of where I am going to be happiest."
Ganassi was unavailable for comment about the deal, but speaking recently he said that his target for Mears' replacement would be in simply signing the fastest guy possible.
"You have to take the best guy that is available to you, whoever he is, wherever he is, whatever he is," he said. "There are a lot of teams looking for drivers.
"Am I happy about this? No. Am I happy to be in this situation? No. Is it a disaster? No, it's not a disaster, either. It's just part of the business."
Single seater drivers have had mixed success in making the switch to NASCAR.
Former Champ Car champion Jimmy Vasser competed in a few Busch Series races before calling it quits, as did Paul Tracy who subsequently signed a five-year contract extension to remain in single seaters.
Michel Jourdain Jr. left Champ Car for NASCAR but failed to make an impact in Busch or the Truck Series.
The one exception to the rule is former IRL champion Tony Stewart, who has two Nextel Cup championships to his name and shares the same kind of aggression on the track that is a hallmark of Montoya.
Only last weekend, former world champion Jacques Villeneuve said that he would consider a switch to NASCAR once his F1 career was over.
"Going to NASCAR might not be such a bad career move because it's the most exciting race series in the U.S. and it's a very different discipline to F1," he told the Red Bulletin.
"I would not consider it a step down. Would I consider a move to stock cars? I would."[/QUOTE]
:huh:
[QUOTE]Montoya switches to NASCAR with Ganassi
By Jonathan Noble Sunday, July 9th 2006, 14:35 GMT
Juan Pablo Montoya
Juan Pablo Montoya has decided to turn his back on Formula One at the end of the season and will make a switch to NASCAR next year, autosport.com can reveal.
The McLaren driver's future has been the subject of intense speculation for months, as it appeared his options to remain in Grand Prix racing were narrowing.
But Montoya has now inked a deal with Chip Ganassi Racing to compete in Nextel Cup as of next year - and autosport.com understands that it is a long term one.
Montoya enjoyed a successful relationship with Ganassi when he captured the 1999 CART championship and the 2000 Indianapolis 500 crown.
Recently Ganassi said he would be interested in recruiting the Colombian, but it had been thought that this was for his Indy Racing League outfit.
However, sources close to Montoya have revealed that talks between the driver and his former team boss have focused on a move to NASCAR, with Chip Ganassi Racing having been looking for a replacement for Casey Mears.
Those talks have culminated this weekend in a deal being signed, with Montoya taking over the No. 42 car from the start of next season.
Although Montoya has never raced a NASCAR, he did spend some time behind the wheel of Jeff Gordon's Monte Carlo during a promotional activity at Indianapolis in June 2003.
Sources close to Montoya have indicated that Montoya became excited by the option of NASCAR when it was presented to him last month. "He's just glad to be going back home," said one source.
Montoya said recently that he was far from concerned about his future in motor racing - and admitted that 'anything was possible' in terms of where he would be racing.
"Well I am quite relaxed," said Montoya when asked about his feelings on getting a deal for next year. "I am looking at my options and we will see what happens. I am not too worried about anything. Nothing is sure but I am pretty happy."
When asked if he was confident he would remain in F1, Montoya said: "I don't know. I am looking at all my options and we will see what happens.
"I am not too worried about it. I am trying to put myself in the best position of where I am going to be happiest."
Ganassi was unavailable for comment about the deal, but speaking recently he said that his target for Mears' replacement would be in simply signing the fastest guy possible.
"You have to take the best guy that is available to you, whoever he is, wherever he is, whatever he is," he said. "There are a lot of teams looking for drivers.
"Am I happy about this? No. Am I happy to be in this situation? No. Is it a disaster? No, it's not a disaster, either. It's just part of the business."
Single seater drivers have had mixed success in making the switch to NASCAR.
Former Champ Car champion Jimmy Vasser competed in a few Busch Series races before calling it quits, as did Paul Tracy who subsequently signed a five-year contract extension to remain in single seaters.
Michel Jourdain Jr. left Champ Car for NASCAR but failed to make an impact in Busch or the Truck Series.
The one exception to the rule is former IRL champion Tony Stewart, who has two Nextel Cup championships to his name and shares the same kind of aggression on the track that is a hallmark of Montoya.
Only last weekend, former world champion Jacques Villeneuve said that he would consider a switch to NASCAR once his F1 career was over.
"Going to NASCAR might not be such a bad career move because it's the most exciting race series in the U.S. and it's a very different discipline to F1," he told the Red Bulletin.
"I would not consider it a step down. Would I consider a move to stock cars? I would."[/QUOTE]
:huh:
| finnRex | 07-09-2006 11:45 AM |
They called him Whine for a reason. '07 is going to be interesting for F1. This opens up another seat for a good drive.
I don't care what the PR folks say. It's a step down.
Mika
I don't care what the PR folks say. It's a step down.
Mika
| ingko | 07-09-2006 11:52 AM |
Sigh, I wish the old warts like coulthard, ralfie, and trulli would go away so that Juan Pablo could get their seat. F1 has lost a very talented driver who is also very exciting to watch.
| Patrick L | 07-09-2006 12:02 PM |
There is a press confrence on Speed right now on it!!!!!!
| REX8 | 07-09-2006 12:08 PM |
Says he had MULTIPLE F1 options open for seats for next year...but turned them down...
I'm dumbfounded....
I'm dumbfounded....
| artkevin | 07-09-2006 12:09 PM |
Thats the most surprising news F1 has had in a long time. I agree with Mika, its a step down for sure but I bet he's getting some serious bank from Chip. This could be a great move for the Ganassi team to have a well kow and loved Latin driver in NASCAR. I bet JPM gets bored in about 3 races and wants out.
I can now only hope that it opens up a seat for Hamilton now.
I can now only hope that it opens up a seat for Hamilton now.
| ralliharri | 07-09-2006 12:13 PM |
Had nascrapTV on in the other room and heard Montoyas voice, couldnt believe it, that's to bad, I wasnt a great fan of JPM but I'll miss him, I'll never hear from him again unless he opts out like artkevin said.
| Murray | 07-09-2006 12:15 PM |
:( id rather watch the Grand Am cup... they're showing this LIVE and pissing me off. the race was even interesting too, despite me already knowing the outcome.. this could have easily been announced in text at the bottom of hte screen, then shown later in a news section.. :(
this is a step down in my opinion too. i know NASCAR is not an easy "sport", its just as physically demanding as F1, but i honestly think F1 is a better experience overall, maybe Nascar is paying more or something. who knows, maybe he jsut wants to drive in big ovals and show off for Rednecks nationwide.
he'd probly do well on road courses..having experience with right turns and all..
:lol:
what really sucks is im Tivo'ing this race for a friend, and now the whole middle of hte race is not gonna be seen :(
this is a step down in my opinion too. i know NASCAR is not an easy "sport", its just as physically demanding as F1, but i honestly think F1 is a better experience overall, maybe Nascar is paying more or something. who knows, maybe he jsut wants to drive in big ovals and show off for Rednecks nationwide.
he'd probly do well on road courses..having experience with right turns and all..
:lol:
what really sucks is im Tivo'ing this race for a friend, and now the whole middle of hte race is not gonna be seen :(
| TurboRX | 07-09-2006 12:15 PM |
my problem with this is that we're missing coverage of Grand Am Cup because of this.
| finnRex | 07-09-2006 12:17 PM |
[QUOTE=artkevin]Thats the most surprising news F1 has had in a long time. I agree with Mika, its a step down for sure but I bet he's getting some serious bank from Chip. This could be a great move for the Ganassi team to have a well kow and loved Latin driver in NASCAR. I bet JPM gets bored in about 3 races and wants out.
I can now only hope that it opens up a seat for Hamilton now.[/QUOTE]
According to his press conference, he will be taking a pay cut.
I rag him a lot, but I did like seeing him in the F1 grid. He wasn't afraid to take it to anyone, including Schumi.
It's going to be a big step ahead for Nascar. I'm pretty sure it'll pull in quite a few hispanic fans. I think this kind of racing suits his style though. He's aggressive and not the type to back down. Nascar is about swappin' paint and bump drafting and what-not.
Mika
I can now only hope that it opens up a seat for Hamilton now.[/QUOTE]
According to his press conference, he will be taking a pay cut.
I rag him a lot, but I did like seeing him in the F1 grid. He wasn't afraid to take it to anyone, including Schumi.
It's going to be a big step ahead for Nascar. I'm pretty sure it'll pull in quite a few hispanic fans. I think this kind of racing suits his style though. He's aggressive and not the type to back down. Nascar is about swappin' paint and bump drafting and what-not.
Mika
| ein86 | 07-09-2006 12:17 PM |
*sigh* I hate to say I see his point about F1 being less exciting but I do... I still wont watch NASCAR though....
...and I'd rather be watching Grand Am right now :mad:
...and I'd rather be watching Grand Am right now :mad:
| ptclaus98 | 07-09-2006 12:18 PM |
[QUOTE=artkevin]Thats the most surprising news F1 has had in a long time. I agree with Mika, its a step down for sure but I bet [B]he's getting some serious bank from Chip.[/B] [B]This could be a great move for the Ganassi team to have a well kow and loved Latin driver in NASCAR[/B]. I bet JPM gets bored in about 3 races and wants out.
I can now only hope that it opens up a seat for Hamilton now.[/QUOTE]
Ding and ding.
He's a great marketing ploy. He can win in Nascar. And when he does, NASCAR will have an international market.
But seriously, I was kinda hoping to watch Grand Am Cup racing right now.
I can now only hope that it opens up a seat for Hamilton now.[/QUOTE]
Ding and ding.
He's a great marketing ploy. He can win in Nascar. And when he does, NASCAR will have an international market.
But seriously, I was kinda hoping to watch Grand Am Cup racing right now.
| artkevin | 07-09-2006 12:18 PM |
I hope that they have a lateral deal where he can go from NASCAR to IRL when needed. At least for the 500. Its going to be great to see him at Sears Point or Watkins Glen.
I am really just trying to polish this turd.
I am really just trying to polish this turd.
| ptclaus98 | 07-09-2006 12:20 PM |
[QUOTE=ein86]*sigh* I hate to say I see his point about F1 being less exciting but I do... I still wont watch NASCAR though....
...and I'd rather be watching Grand Am right now :mad:[/QUOTE]
Did you see him when he said that?
"What? It's true"
...and I'd rather be watching Grand Am right now :mad:[/QUOTE]
Did you see him when he said that?
"What? It's true"
| ptclaus98 | 07-09-2006 12:21 PM |
[QUOTE=artkevin]I hope that they have a lateral deal where he can go from NASCAR to IRL when needed. At least for the 500. Its going to be great to see him at [B]Sears Point[/B] or Watkins Glen.
I am really just trying to polish this turd.[/QUOTE]
Is that really Infineon? I saw somewhere that it was the same or something.
I am really just trying to polish this turd.[/QUOTE]
Is that really Infineon? I saw somewhere that it was the same or something.
| [email�protected] | 07-09-2006 12:24 PM |
"i am coming for yooooo Rickie Booobie"
he can play the real life Jean Girard. from the new Will Ferrell movie :p
he can play the real life Jean Girard. from the new Will Ferrell movie :p
| artkevin | 07-09-2006 12:25 PM |
[QUOTE=ptclaus98]Is that really Infineon? I saw somewhere that it was the same or something.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I just can't spell Infineon. :)
Yeah, I just can't spell Infineon. :)
| recnelis | 07-09-2006 12:30 PM |
JPM to NASCAR, I really didn't see that coming. What's next, Jeff Gordon signs with McLaren-Mercedes F1?
Too bad the press conference is interrupting the Grand Am Cup race (yay for two Subaru Legacy entries!).
Too bad the press conference is interrupting the Grand Am Cup race (yay for two Subaru Legacy entries!).
| ptclaus98 | 07-09-2006 12:31 PM |
HEY! Grand Am Cup! NOW!!!:mad:
| TurboRX | 07-09-2006 12:36 PM |
sweet, we're back to the important stuff
| Bonzo | 07-09-2006 12:45 PM |
hehe. A liitle bit if a suprise. But if you look at from their shoes as it's a job or profession and nascar is an excellent job. Good money, safe cars and all the races are on one continent.
Interesting to see if this actually come true.
Sponor wise it will bring a lot of Columbian/intl attention.
Interesting to see if this actually come true.
Sponor wise it will bring a lot of Columbian/intl attention.
| psg | 07-09-2006 12:50 PM |
Oh man, I thought this was a late April Fools' Joke. Ditching F1 for NASCAR; what the heck is he thinking? Methinks he'll end up back in whatever the reunited American Open Wheel series becomes after he tires of NASCAR.
| NYEJ25 | 07-09-2006 12:53 PM |
[QUOTE=recnelis]JPM to NASCAR, I really didn't see that coming. What's next, Jeff Gordon signs with McLaren-Mercedes F1?
Too bad the press conference is interrupting the Grand Am Cup race (yay for two Subaru Legacy entries!).[/QUOTE]
He was seen at Indy during the USGP....
On a serious note, I am shocked by this move. But I guess Montoya feels it is in his best interest. He will be missed from the sport of F1. I will watch the first few races and then the road course races and thats it. I hate NASCAR. What car is he going to be driving? Toyota?
Too bad the press conference is interrupting the Grand Am Cup race (yay for two Subaru Legacy entries!).[/QUOTE]
He was seen at Indy during the USGP....
On a serious note, I am shocked by this move. But I guess Montoya feels it is in his best interest. He will be missed from the sport of F1. I will watch the first few races and then the road course races and thats it. I hate NASCAR. What car is he going to be driving? Toyota?
| Raul04STI | 07-09-2006 12:55 PM |
He even said "You can actually race in NASCAR, F1 is boring (no disrespect), you can't make a pass and when you do and hit a tire, you're an animal"....
HE GOT DEMOTED!!!!
That's my opinion...
HE GOT DEMOTED!!!!
That's my opinion...
| SatanasoSTI | 07-09-2006 01:04 PM |
[QUOTE=Raul04STI]He even said "You can actually race in NASCAR, F1 is boring (no disrespect), you can't make a pass and when you do and hit a tire, you're an animal"....
HE GOT DEMOTED!!!!
That's my opinion...[/QUOTE]
i agree with you HE GOT DEMOTED!!!! . Nascar is very very boring it's going to be funny a Colombian racing rednecks :lol:
HE GOT DEMOTED!!!!
That's my opinion...[/QUOTE]
i agree with you HE GOT DEMOTED!!!! . Nascar is very very boring it's going to be funny a Colombian racing rednecks :lol:
| JoD | 07-09-2006 01:05 PM |
Pardon me while I pick my jaw up off the floor....
Well, if the Kimi to Renault rumors hold up, I hope this means Lewis Hamilton is getting a seat at McLaren next year!!!
I'll miss JPM on the grid.
Well, if the Kimi to Renault rumors hold up, I hope this means Lewis Hamilton is getting a seat at McLaren next year!!!
I'll miss JPM on the grid.
| pittspilot | 07-09-2006 01:06 PM |
And now we will see.
Whether the "left turn, left turn etc." crowd is correct. You know, like the folks who think that any drunk redneck could drive in NASCAR and be successful.
JPM is a quick openwheeler near the top of his game going to a solid, albeit not top team, in NASCAR. He should run circles around the rednecks, right?
We will see.
Whether the "left turn, left turn etc." crowd is correct. You know, like the folks who think that any drunk redneck could drive in NASCAR and be successful.
JPM is a quick openwheeler near the top of his game going to a solid, albeit not top team, in NASCAR. He should run circles around the rednecks, right?
We will see.
| StuBeck | 07-09-2006 01:09 PM |
I do think NNC suits his driving style more. I think it will be interesting, I probably won't watch Nextel Cup more than I do now (I'll switch it on if its on and nothign else is, but I don't follow all the drama) but it will bring a bit more interest. He also knows that if he fails it is more him and not simply the car.
I'm still in a state of shock though, he's one of my big drivers I follow and this will be a big loss. I need to follow someone who's a leading driver now...I guess Raikkonen but I'll see.
I also think that Juan can run in Grand Am and Rolex Cup too to keep his interest up...he can also eat junk food a lot more now too!
I don't think Juan will destroy the field, he will do well some places and not well others, I think he's going to have trouble with running in traffic too, but it will be interesting.
I'm still in a state of shock though, he's one of my big drivers I follow and this will be a big loss. I need to follow someone who's a leading driver now...I guess Raikkonen but I'll see.
I also think that Juan can run in Grand Am and Rolex Cup too to keep his interest up...he can also eat junk food a lot more now too!
I don't think Juan will destroy the field, he will do well some places and not well others, I think he's going to have trouble with running in traffic too, but it will be interesting.
| bemani | 07-09-2006 01:09 PM |
Well he is getting a bit old for F1. There are some old geezers in nascar so maybe he just wants a steady job until he retires. :lol:
| Raul04STI | 07-09-2006 01:10 PM |
The funny thing is that he will bring hispanic audience to nascar. I live in miami, fl. and when he went to F1 everyone went crazy. I've gone to homestead speedway to watch nascar and it's not 100% redneck anymore. I personally thing he is a really good marketing tool. And the one thing I agree with him is that he said he wanted to be close to his family and race more. There are more nascar races than F1...and his family will see him more...
[QUOTE=SatanasoSTI]i agree with you HE GOT DEMOTED!!!! . Nascar is very very boring it's going to be funny a Colombian racing rednecks :lol:[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SatanasoSTI]i agree with you HE GOT DEMOTED!!!! . Nascar is very very boring it's going to be funny a Colombian racing rednecks :lol:[/QUOTE]
| meebs | 07-09-2006 01:12 PM |
there you have it folks... only in NASCAR can you get signed for a drive after wiping out half of the field durring the USGP.
Pretty clear that his drive with Merc was gone, I don't think he wanted to be a midpacker for the rest of his carrer.
Pretty clear that his drive with Merc was gone, I don't think he wanted to be a midpacker for the rest of his carrer.
| Ferg | 07-09-2006 01:13 PM |
Watching NASCAR Race Day on Speed (first time for me) and the reaction from the NASCAR crowd is extremely positive.
Although I have heard a couple of "Mantoyas" already :D
Although I have heard a couple of "Mantoyas" already :D
| StuBeck | 07-09-2006 01:18 PM |
Haha, yep, and they did have a bit of a problem telling where Columbia was on the map...not even South America, but whether it was South or North :lol:
I don't think Juan specifically lost his McLaren drive, with Kimi probably going that means that McLaren will have lost 3 of their 4 drivers in one year, which is not very good for anyone.
I hope Juan doesn't americanize his name again though and keeps the pablo, just a little thing, and him winning a race before the end of the year would be cool too.
I don't think Juan specifically lost his McLaren drive, with Kimi probably going that means that McLaren will have lost 3 of their 4 drivers in one year, which is not very good for anyone.
I hope Juan doesn't americanize his name again though and keeps the pablo, just a little thing, and him winning a race before the end of the year would be cool too.
| Ferg | 07-09-2006 01:29 PM |
JPM in a stock car by the end of the year.
[QUOTE]Ganassi wants Montoya debut this year
Sunday, July 9th 2006, 16:32 GMT
Chip Ganassi Racing will try to run Juan Pablo Montoya in selected NASCAR Busch races already this year, team owner Chip Ganassi said.
The American team confirmed the news, revealed by autosport.com earlier today, that their former CART driver will return to the outfit on a long-term contact, driving in the NASCAR Nextel Cup and Busch series.
But team boss Ganassi said they would rather Montoya began garnering experience in the American stock car racing this year.
If McLaren agree to release the Colombian as soon as the F1 season ends, then he could potentially take the start of up to four Busch races before the year-end.
The NASCAR season extends for a month after the Formula One season ends in mid-October, with four Busch races scheduled after the Brazilian Grand Prix - including the season finale at Homestead-Miami, Montoya's past and future residence.
"We'll run him in Busch and Nextel Cup next year to try and get him as much experience as quickly as possible," Ganassi told veteran motorsport journalist Robin Miller today. "We'll also try to work in some selected Busch events near the end of this season."
"He's bound by contract right now until the end of the Formula One season," Ganassi added, talking to the Associated Press. "We have some opportunities to do some things after that."
Ganassi revealed the deal was initiated "just last week" and negotiations were quick.
"We've obviously enjoyed some previous success, and that made it a lot easier. We had a very quick negotiation - if you can even call it that.
"It's nice to have somebody in your car who wants to be there, wants to be with your team, wants to be a part of it.
"He said, 'I want to get back to racing'. The guy loves racing. And what better place than here?
"It's going to be some work [for Montoya], but he's ready for it.
"It should be fun," Ganassi added. "Should be great." [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Ganassi wants Montoya debut this year
Sunday, July 9th 2006, 16:32 GMT
Chip Ganassi Racing will try to run Juan Pablo Montoya in selected NASCAR Busch races already this year, team owner Chip Ganassi said.
The American team confirmed the news, revealed by autosport.com earlier today, that their former CART driver will return to the outfit on a long-term contact, driving in the NASCAR Nextel Cup and Busch series.
But team boss Ganassi said they would rather Montoya began garnering experience in the American stock car racing this year.
If McLaren agree to release the Colombian as soon as the F1 season ends, then he could potentially take the start of up to four Busch races before the year-end.
The NASCAR season extends for a month after the Formula One season ends in mid-October, with four Busch races scheduled after the Brazilian Grand Prix - including the season finale at Homestead-Miami, Montoya's past and future residence.
"We'll run him in Busch and Nextel Cup next year to try and get him as much experience as quickly as possible," Ganassi told veteran motorsport journalist Robin Miller today. "We'll also try to work in some selected Busch events near the end of this season."
"He's bound by contract right now until the end of the Formula One season," Ganassi added, talking to the Associated Press. "We have some opportunities to do some things after that."
Ganassi revealed the deal was initiated "just last week" and negotiations were quick.
"We've obviously enjoyed some previous success, and that made it a lot easier. We had a very quick negotiation - if you can even call it that.
"It's nice to have somebody in your car who wants to be there, wants to be with your team, wants to be a part of it.
"He said, 'I want to get back to racing'. The guy loves racing. And what better place than here?
"It's going to be some work [for Montoya], but he's ready for it.
"It should be fun," Ganassi added. "Should be great." [/QUOTE]
| REX8 | 07-09-2006 01:35 PM |
[QUOTE=Raul04STI]He even said "You can actually race in NASCAR, F1 is boring (no disrespect), you can't make a pass and when you do and hit a tire, you're an animal"....
HE GOT DEMOTED!!!!
That's my opinion...[/QUOTE]
Its not like he didn't have a choice...unless his wife put the smackdown... :lol:
He choose to be demoted...
HE GOT DEMOTED!!!!
That's my opinion...[/QUOTE]
Its not like he didn't have a choice...unless his wife put the smackdown... :lol:
He choose to be demoted...
| djb_rh | 07-09-2006 01:44 PM |
[QUOTE=finnRex]According to his press conference, he will be taking a pay cut.[/QUOTE]
Maybe in salary, but I'll bet his endorsement opportunities will go through the roof.
--Donnie
Maybe in salary, but I'll bet his endorsement opportunities will go through the roof.
--Donnie
| REX8 | 07-09-2006 01:46 PM |
[QUOTE=djb_rh]Maybe in salary, but I'll bet his endorsement opportunities will go through the roof.
--Donnie[/QUOTE]
I bet in all, he'll make double what he did in f1...
--Donnie[/QUOTE]
I bet in all, he'll make double what he did in f1...
| REX8 | 07-09-2006 01:48 PM |
[QUOTE=JoD]Pardon me while I pick my jaw up off the floor....
Well, if the Kimi to Renault rumors hold up, I hope this means Lewis Hamilton is getting a seat at McLaren next year!!!
I'll miss JPM on the grid.[/QUOTE]
Maybe...but maybe a certain Mc. tester will finally get a shot...
Well, if the Kimi to Renault rumors hold up, I hope this means Lewis Hamilton is getting a seat at McLaren next year!!!
I'll miss JPM on the grid.[/QUOTE]
Maybe...but maybe a certain Mc. tester will finally get a shot...
| REX8 | 07-09-2006 01:50 PM |
[QUOTE=meebs]there you have it folks... only in NASCAR can you get signed for a drive after wiping out half of the field durring the USGP.
Pretty clear that his drive with Merc was gone, I don't think he wanted to be a midpacker for the rest of his carrer.[/QUOTE]
Mot sources say he turned down a paycut at McM....
I'm not sure if you noticed the other accident in the opening lap didn't involve JPM that took out a number of drivers as well...
Guess you forgot about that??? :rolleyes:
Pretty clear that his drive with Merc was gone, I don't think he wanted to be a midpacker for the rest of his carrer.[/QUOTE]
Mot sources say he turned down a paycut at McM....
I'm not sure if you noticed the other accident in the opening lap didn't involve JPM that took out a number of drivers as well...
Guess you forgot about that??? :rolleyes:
| StuBeck | 07-09-2006 01:51 PM |
de la Rosa had his shot with Arrows and Jaguar and never really did well. Pafett is just a "look we have a german on the team" guy I think. Hamilton has a lot more going for him than Pafett does.
Although all the predictions I've made so far this year have been really wrong, so we'll see.
Although all the predictions I've made so far this year have been really wrong, so we'll see.
| artkevin | 07-09-2006 01:54 PM |
Paffett is British.
I agree with you about PDR and Gary though. I think McLaren is dropping the ball as far as drivers. I am glad they got Alonso but you have to nurture the ones you have.
I agree with you about PDR and Gary though. I think McLaren is dropping the ball as far as drivers. I am glad they got Alonso but you have to nurture the ones you have.
| RenMaxi | 07-09-2006 01:55 PM |
finally hes out of f1 what a wast of time with this dude nascar is perfect now he can bang everyone as much as he wants . :banana:
| artkevin | 07-09-2006 01:58 PM |
[QUOTE=RenMaxi]finally hes out of f1 what a wast of time with this dude nascar is perfect now he can bang everyone as much as he wants . :banana:[/QUOTE]
That�s ridiculous.
That�s ridiculous.
| ptclaus98 | 07-09-2006 02:04 PM |
[QUOTE=RenMaxi]finally hes out of f1 what a wast of time with this dude nascar is perfect now he can bang everyone as much as he wants . :banana:[/QUOTE]
Hand over you're member number.
Back on topic, you think Yuji Ide is pissed? He knocks somebody off the road, he gets kicked out. Montoya on the other hand knocks his teammate and a number of others out of the race, then a week later pokes fun at F1 and still has his seat for the rest of the season.
Ironing?
Hand over you're member number.
Back on topic, you think Yuji Ide is pissed? He knocks somebody off the road, he gets kicked out. Montoya on the other hand knocks his teammate and a number of others out of the race, then a week later pokes fun at F1 and still has his seat for the rest of the season.
Ironing?
| RenMaxi | 07-09-2006 02:05 PM |
The dude caused nothing but problems in f1 always taking out everyone look at montreal when he took out nico and he said nico should of backed off please.
| finnRex | 07-09-2006 02:09 PM |
[QUOTE=ptclaus98]Hand over you're member number.
Back on topic, you think Yuji Ide is pissed? He knocks somebody off the road, he gets kicked out. Montoya on the other hand knocks his teammate and a number of others out of the race, then a week later pokes fun at F1 and still has his seat for the rest of the season.
Ironing?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but Montoya actually scored points for DC and CC. Ide scored insurance points on his license;).
Mika
Back on topic, you think Yuji Ide is pissed? He knocks somebody off the road, he gets kicked out. Montoya on the other hand knocks his teammate and a number of others out of the race, then a week later pokes fun at F1 and still has his seat for the rest of the season.
Ironing?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but Montoya actually scored points for DC and CC. Ide scored insurance points on his license;).
Mika
| parker/slc/gc8fan | 07-09-2006 03:00 PM |
I'll bet he's sick of the europeans.
| KAX | 07-09-2006 03:06 PM |
he doesnt belong in nascar. im very sad to see him go. If it were IRL i would be happy for him, as he would be going back to his roots, but this is just sad. I hope artkevin is right and he gets bored and switches to IRL or something.
| AndyRoo | 07-09-2006 03:09 PM |
wow. maybe he wanted a chance to pass other cars ;)
hamilton here we come.
- andrew
hamilton here we come.
- andrew
| Ryouga | 07-09-2006 03:36 PM |
[QUOTE=AndyRoo]wow. maybe he wanted a chance to pass other cars[/QUOTE]
I may not like NASCRAP, but I guess I don't hate it as much as some of you guys.
I think I can understand why Montoya made the jump, though. If it were me, if I wasn't leading/winning races, I would at least want to be able to pass people who I know are slower than me. :D
And, if he feels that NASCAR gives him more of an opportunity to exert his will on a race as compared to wherever he might end up in F1 next year, well then more power to him.
Go, Team Chili Dog! :banana:
I may not like NASCRAP, but I guess I don't hate it as much as some of you guys.
I think I can understand why Montoya made the jump, though. If it were me, if I wasn't leading/winning races, I would at least want to be able to pass people who I know are slower than me. :D
And, if he feels that NASCAR gives him more of an opportunity to exert his will on a race as compared to wherever he might end up in F1 next year, well then more power to him.
Go, Team Chili Dog! :banana:
| Draken | 07-09-2006 03:52 PM |
Good luck to him.
I still think he has the ability to win in F1, but only in a top team. And frankly, the McClaren this year isn't capable. And unless he can get a ride at Ferrari or Renault, I don't seem him going to a winning team.
So...what is better? Staying in F1 in a mid-level team, ala David Coulthard, or going to a new series where your chances are wide open?
Maybe this is just the move he needs to get his spark back.
Chris H.
-never been a JPM fan, but I will surely follow his progress in Nextel.
I still think he has the ability to win in F1, but only in a top team. And frankly, the McClaren this year isn't capable. And unless he can get a ride at Ferrari or Renault, I don't seem him going to a winning team.
So...what is better? Staying in F1 in a mid-level team, ala David Coulthard, or going to a new series where your chances are wide open?
Maybe this is just the move he needs to get his spark back.
Chris H.
-never been a JPM fan, but I will surely follow his progress in Nextel.
| ptclaus98 | 07-09-2006 03:55 PM |
[QUOTE=finnRex]Yeah, but Montoya actually scored points for DC and CC. Ide scored insurance points on his license;).
Mika[/QUOTE]
Touche.
Mika[/QUOTE]
Touche.
| greg donovan | 07-09-2006 03:55 PM |
i think this is great news.
looking forward to this next season.
racers want to race and there really isnt racing in F1. it is just a bunch (14) cars playing follow the leader behind a red car.
NASCAR has 40 cars racing every weekend with lots of passing, multiple leadchages per lap sometimes and "equal" cars.
he was pretty fast in gordons car during the tradin' paint special a couple years ago.
with him and boris said running full seasons this is pretty big news.
plus i bet JPM will be seen running in races like the Rolex 24 with all the other cup drivers.
looking forward to this next season.
racers want to race and there really isnt racing in F1. it is just a bunch (14) cars playing follow the leader behind a red car.
NASCAR has 40 cars racing every weekend with lots of passing, multiple leadchages per lap sometimes and "equal" cars.
he was pretty fast in gordons car during the tradin' paint special a couple years ago.
with him and boris said running full seasons this is pretty big news.
plus i bet JPM will be seen running in races like the Rolex 24 with all the other cup drivers.
| REX8 | 07-09-2006 03:59 PM |
[QUOTE=RenMaxi]The dude caused nothing but problems in f1 always taking out everyone look at montreal when he took out nico and he said nico should of backed off please.[/QUOTE]
F1 agreed...
They have no trouble handing out fines for someone at fault...you sound like someone who just started watching JPM this season...not exactly an educated statement about causing nothing but trouble...
Did you see the rest of has career???
Sure, he's aggressive....but Nico was NO WHERE near on the racing line to make the next corner...
Hence, no fines, no fault.
Good outlook though...maybe you can eliminate everyone in F1 with any amount of aggression....
lord knows the racing is exciting now... :rolleyes:
I'll take a LITTLE trouble in exchange for some raciness any day...
[B]The parade that is F1 just got a little more boring...[/B]
F1 agreed...
They have no trouble handing out fines for someone at fault...you sound like someone who just started watching JPM this season...not exactly an educated statement about causing nothing but trouble...
Did you see the rest of has career???
Sure, he's aggressive....but Nico was NO WHERE near on the racing line to make the next corner...
Hence, no fines, no fault.
Good outlook though...maybe you can eliminate everyone in F1 with any amount of aggression....
lord knows the racing is exciting now... :rolleyes:
I'll take a LITTLE trouble in exchange for some raciness any day...
[B]The parade that is F1 just got a little more boring...[/B]
| REX8 | 07-09-2006 04:00 PM |
[QUOTE=greg donovan]
plus i bet JPM will be seen running in races like the Rolex 24 with all the other cup drivers.[/QUOTE]
Thats the one plus side...
Like the old days, where the best drivers spread out and did a lot of different things. I hope he takes advantage and does the same...
plus i bet JPM will be seen running in races like the Rolex 24 with all the other cup drivers.[/QUOTE]
Thats the one plus side...
Like the old days, where the best drivers spread out and did a lot of different things. I hope he takes advantage and does the same...
| StuBeck | 07-09-2006 04:02 PM |
[QUOTE=artkevin]Paffett is British.
I agree with you about PDR and Gary though. I think McLaren is dropping the ball as far as drivers. I am glad they got Alonso but you have to nurture the ones you have.[/QUOTE]
Bleh, he at least ran in DTM though right? My mind isn't completely going :p
I agree with you about PDR and Gary though. I think McLaren is dropping the ball as far as drivers. I am glad they got Alonso but you have to nurture the ones you have.[/QUOTE]
Bleh, he at least ran in DTM though right? My mind isn't completely going :p
| StuBeck | 07-09-2006 04:05 PM |
[QUOTE=ptclaus98]Hand over you're member number.
Back on topic, you think Yuji Ide is pissed? He knocks somebody off the road, he gets kicked out. Montoya on the other hand knocks his teammate and a number of others out of the race, then a week later pokes fun at F1 and still has his seat for the rest of the season.
Ironing?[/QUOTE]
Ide was four or five seconds off his teammate's pace the entire season and would go off track constantly. Montoya is a proven race winner who had a real chance at the 03 championship if his car hadn't failed him in Suzuka and he hadn't been penalized for a racing incident in Indy (and in Malaysia where he got penalized for Schumacher hitting him :rolleyes: ) You can't compare Ide's short career to Montoya's at all.
Back on topic, you think Yuji Ide is pissed? He knocks somebody off the road, he gets kicked out. Montoya on the other hand knocks his teammate and a number of others out of the race, then a week later pokes fun at F1 and still has his seat for the rest of the season.
Ironing?[/QUOTE]
Ide was four or five seconds off his teammate's pace the entire season and would go off track constantly. Montoya is a proven race winner who had a real chance at the 03 championship if his car hadn't failed him in Suzuka and he hadn't been penalized for a racing incident in Indy (and in Malaysia where he got penalized for Schumacher hitting him :rolleyes: ) You can't compare Ide's short career to Montoya's at all.
| ptclaus98 | 07-09-2006 04:23 PM |
[QUOTE=StuBeck]Ide was four or five seconds off his teammate's pace the entire season and would go off track constantly. Montoya is a proven race winner who had a real chance at the 03 championship if his car hadn't failed him in Suzuka and he hadn't been penalized for a racing incident in Indy (and in Malaysia where he got penalized for Schumacher hitting him :rolleyes: ) You can't compare Ide's short career to Montoya's at all.[/QUOTE]
I was joking.
I was joking.
| 575rider | 07-09-2006 04:34 PM |
Montoya is the type of talent that will be fast and competitive in any car he drives. He said over and over in the press conference that he wanted to have fun, and F1 wasn't fun for him anymore. He may be taking a paycut but he is still very wealthy, so the money at this point in his career isn't what makes his decisions. He should be able to bank on 2 wins a year, Infineon and Watkins Glen.
Like he said, F1 is the top of the food chain for technology but the racing is boring. There is very little passing, huge politics involved and the team with the money always wins. I'm not a NASCAR fan, but at least it is racing...side by side, swapping paint, tapping people that piss you off, and it is just about anyones race on a given day.
I'm looking forward to watching it, at least the first one or two races and then by all means the road course races. Juan should dominate off the ovals.
Like he said, F1 is the top of the food chain for technology but the racing is boring. There is very little passing, huge politics involved and the team with the money always wins. I'm not a NASCAR fan, but at least it is racing...side by side, swapping paint, tapping people that piss you off, and it is just about anyones race on a given day.
I'm looking forward to watching it, at least the first one or two races and then by all means the road course races. Juan should dominate off the ovals.
| ptclaus98 | 07-09-2006 04:40 PM |
[QUOTE=575rider]Montoya is the type of talent that will be fast and competitive in any car he drives. He said over and over in the press conference that he wanted to have fun, and F1 wasn't fun for him anymore. He may be taking a paycut but he is still very wealthy, so the money at this point in his career isn't what makes his decisions. He should be able to bank on 2 wins a year, Infineon and Watkins Glen.
Like he said, F1 is the top of the food chain for technology but the racing is boring. There is very little passing, huge politics involved and the team with the money always wins. I'm not a NASCAR fan, but at least it is racing...side by side, swapping paint, tapping people that piss you off, and it is just about anyones race on a given day.
I'm looking forward to watching it, at least the first one or two races and then by all means the road course races. Juan should dominate off the ovals.[/QUOTE]
He can't really bank on those two as he's not used to them yet. Now he should do well, but it's not a sure deal as Jeff Gordon or Tony Stewart cause they've had experience winning on those tracks.
Like he said, F1 is the top of the food chain for technology but the racing is boring. There is very little passing, huge politics involved and the team with the money always wins. I'm not a NASCAR fan, but at least it is racing...side by side, swapping paint, tapping people that piss you off, and it is just about anyones race on a given day.
I'm looking forward to watching it, at least the first one or two races and then by all means the road course races. Juan should dominate off the ovals.[/QUOTE]
He can't really bank on those two as he's not used to them yet. Now he should do well, but it's not a sure deal as Jeff Gordon or Tony Stewart cause they've had experience winning on those tracks.
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