| Lebanese rally champ | 01-26-2006 05:42 AM |
My 04 STI USDM on a Go-Kart Track
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Hi to all,
enjoy these 2 nice video's i did last Saturday on a go-kart track in Beirut,Lebanon.
listen carefully to the beautiful noise of the Anti Lag whenever I decelerate.
DCCD was on Auto mode.
[url]http://www.abdofeghali.com/graphics/video2.wmv[/url]
[url]http://www.abdofeghali.com/graphics/video1.wmv[/url]
Mods:
-Crawford Performance S3L + CP32TURBO KIT(in 2 weeks im receiving the S4 & CP35R Kit)
-MOTEC M800 + ANTI LAG(Bang Bang)
-APS FMIC
-Proflex Suspension(Rally specs)
-TGV Deletes
-Samco Turbo inlet Hose
-740CC...
[url]www.abdofeghali.com[/url]
__________________
Racing is in my blood
enjoy these 2 nice video's i did last Saturday on a go-kart track in Beirut,Lebanon.
listen carefully to the beautiful noise of the Anti Lag whenever I decelerate.
DCCD was on Auto mode.
[url]http://www.abdofeghali.com/graphics/video2.wmv[/url]
[url]http://www.abdofeghali.com/graphics/video1.wmv[/url]
Mods:
-Crawford Performance S3L + CP32TURBO KIT(in 2 weeks im receiving the S4 & CP35R Kit)
-MOTEC M800 + ANTI LAG(Bang Bang)
-APS FMIC
-Proflex Suspension(Rally specs)
-TGV Deletes
-Samco Turbo inlet Hose
-740CC...
[url]www.abdofeghali.com[/url]
__________________
Racing is in my blood
| Gundoo | 01-26-2006 06:42 AM |
i dont think you linked them properly?
edit: you gotta get rid of the "..." in the links, like this :
[URL=http://www.crawfordperformance.com/gallery/video/SubKarting1.wmv]http://www.crawfordperformance.com/gallery/video/SubKarting1.wmv[/URL]
[URL=http://www.crawfordperformance.com/gallery/video/SubKarting2.wmv]http://www.crawfordperformance.com/gallery/video/SubKarting2.wmv[/URL]
quote my post to see what i mean.
edit:edit: that looks like it was a blast! :)
edit: you gotta get rid of the "..." in the links, like this :
[URL=http://www.crawfordperformance.com/gallery/video/SubKarting1.wmv]http://www.crawfordperformance.com/gallery/video/SubKarting1.wmv[/URL]
[URL=http://www.crawfordperformance.com/gallery/video/SubKarting2.wmv]http://www.crawfordperformance.com/gallery/video/SubKarting2.wmv[/URL]
quote my post to see what i mean.
edit:edit: that looks like it was a blast! :)
| Lebanese rally champ | 01-26-2006 07:57 AM |
Thx alot Gundoo ;)
| skuttledude | 01-26-2006 09:16 AM |
Nice driving. Beautiful car.
| joey1313 | 01-26-2006 09:25 AM |
Great driving.
| SubaruImpreza_power | 01-26-2006 09:28 AM |
Did you hit the Rev Limter at :27 Sec?
in the first video?
otherwise pretty nice. :)
in the first video?
otherwise pretty nice. :)
| ratt_finkel | 01-26-2006 10:20 AM |
Nice Driving, gorgeous backround.
| Capt Crunch | 01-26-2006 11:23 AM |
[QUOTE=joey1313]Great driving.[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
Is the reason you can go sideways all the time because of anti lag? I've never seen a subaru do that except on snow... all the videos I watch the driver uses the handbrake a lot.
Also, how the hell do you learn to drive like that?
Agreed.
Is the reason you can go sideways all the time because of anti lag? I've never seen a subaru do that except on snow... all the videos I watch the driver uses the handbrake a lot.
Also, how the hell do you learn to drive like that?
| AUTOwrXER | 01-26-2006 11:29 AM |
How do you like the Motec? Also, what process does it use for anti-lag?
| Calamity Jesus | 01-26-2006 11:30 AM |
[QUOTE=Capt Crunch]Is the reason you can go sideways all the time because of anti lag? I've never seen a subaru do that except on snow... all the videos I watch the driver uses the handbrake a lot.[/QUOTE]I see stock STis do it all the time at autocrosses. It's the rear biased center diff. My first ride around an autocross course was in one of these sideways flyng STis :)
| WRXedUSA | 01-26-2006 11:37 AM |
[QUOTE=Lebanese rally champ]
-740CC...
[url]www.abdofeghali.com[/url]
__________________
Racing is in my blood[/QUOTE]
You are the Lebanese GroupN Champ?? WoW!
Great driving!
-740CC...
[url]www.abdofeghali.com[/url]
__________________
Racing is in my blood[/QUOTE]
You are the Lebanese GroupN Champ?? WoW!
Great driving!
| pierce188 | 01-26-2006 11:38 AM |
wow that some really good driveing plus i love the sound of the anti lag
| tuskenraider | 01-26-2006 11:50 AM |
Yes, the slides are nicely timed, but maybe I'm missing something........sliding around losing time is great driving?
| SubaruImpreza_power | 01-26-2006 11:55 AM |
[QUOTE=tuskenraider]Yes, the slides are nicely timed, but maybe I'm missing something........sliding around losing time is great driving?[/QUOTE]
I don't think he was really doing that, I think it's just because the track is not used to having 300+ hp layed down on it.
I don't think he was really doing that, I think it's just because the track is not used to having 300+ hp layed down on it.
| leecea | 01-26-2006 12:08 PM |
I think he was having fun, not really trying for the fastest lap.
However, it does always confuse me as to why rally drivers and track drivers have such different styles, even on tarmac. Though, I read somewhere that some drivers are adopting a more "track" oriented style on tarmac stages.
However, it does always confuse me as to why rally drivers and track drivers have such different styles, even on tarmac. Though, I read somewhere that some drivers are adopting a more "track" oriented style on tarmac stages.
| gregr01 | 01-26-2006 01:38 PM |
[QUOTE=tuskenraider]Yes, the slides are nicely timed, but maybe I'm missing something........sliding around losing time is great driving?[/QUOTE]
It was a great display of rally-style car control, but not the fastest way around a road (or kart) course. Driving like that in a road race would eat up the tires before the checkered flag.
It was a great display of rally-style car control, but not the fastest way around a road (or kart) course. Driving like that in a road race would eat up the tires before the checkered flag.
| AndrewSS | 01-26-2006 01:40 PM |
nice videos, looks like fun !
| Chromer | 01-26-2006 02:00 PM |
[QUOTE=leecea]I think he was having fun, not really trying for the fastest lap.
However, it does always confuse me as to why rally drivers and track drivers have such different styles, even on tarmac. Though, I read somewhere that some drivers are adopting a more "track" oriented style on tarmac stages.[/QUOTE]
Didn't see much of that from coverage of this year's Monte Carlo rally. Lots of sideways action. Then again, most of the time they were on wet roads with semi-studded tires.
However, it does always confuse me as to why rally drivers and track drivers have such different styles, even on tarmac. Though, I read somewhere that some drivers are adopting a more "track" oriented style on tarmac stages.[/QUOTE]
Didn't see much of that from coverage of this year's Monte Carlo rally. Lots of sideways action. Then again, most of the time they were on wet roads with semi-studded tires.
| WRX 2002 | 01-26-2006 02:07 PM |
Nice go-kart track..
| flyboymike | 01-26-2006 02:59 PM |
[QUOTE=Chromer]Didn't see much of that from coverage of this year's Monte Carlo rally. Lots of sideways action. Then again, most of the time they were on wet roads with semi-studded tires.[/QUOTE]
Also, isn't whipping the tail around the quickest cornering method for tight hairpins? Even if it isn't, it's entertaining as hell.
Also, isn't whipping the tail around the quickest cornering method for tight hairpins? Even if it isn't, it's entertaining as hell.
| FastAWD | 01-26-2006 03:17 PM |
damn!!! i wish i had anti-lag on my car, thats just insane! i love it!
| jnorth85 | 01-26-2006 03:23 PM |
wow, talk about a tire bill!!!
its awesome to watch but in a race it would be very impratical!
its awesome to watch but in a race it would be very impratical!
| REX8 | 01-26-2006 05:36 PM |
[QUOTE=flyboymike]Also, isn't whipping the tail around the quickest cornering method for tight hairpins? Even if it isn't, it's entertaining as hell.[/QUOTE]
No, not at all. But yes, it is entertaining...
No, not at all. But yes, it is entertaining...
| WRXPRESS | 01-26-2006 05:47 PM |
ahahaha freaking terriffic....nice..
| RichardM | 01-26-2006 05:53 PM |
[QUOTE=leecea]I think he was having fun, not really trying for the fastest lap.
However, it does always confuse me as to why rally drivers and track drivers have such different styles, even on tarmac. Though, I read somewhere that some drivers are adopting a more "track" oriented style on tarmac stages.[/QUOTE]
Oversteering a rally car is a technique used to slow the car down when you have misjudged the corner and gone in too fast. Research the friction circle on why neutral cornering is the fastest. Also look at sprint cars and modifieds on dirt. They have so much horsepower in relation to traction that they drift the whole track.
Richard
However, it does always confuse me as to why rally drivers and track drivers have such different styles, even on tarmac. Though, I read somewhere that some drivers are adopting a more "track" oriented style on tarmac stages.[/QUOTE]
Oversteering a rally car is a technique used to slow the car down when you have misjudged the corner and gone in too fast. Research the friction circle on why neutral cornering is the fastest. Also look at sprint cars and modifieds on dirt. They have so much horsepower in relation to traction that they drift the whole track.
Richard
| REX8 | 01-26-2006 06:17 PM |
^^^ It basically comes down to the fact that the coefficient of friction is greater in static cases than in sliding cases.
| chris-man | 01-26-2006 06:41 PM |
nice vid and driving
| GC8drifter86 | 01-26-2006 06:52 PM |
wow.......... awesome...... i wanna do that........ u have really good car control.
| johnnyb | 01-26-2006 06:54 PM |
Those are some serious driving skills on such a tight, narrow, track. Awesome.
This post gets a 10.0.
This post gets a 10.0.
| chowder31 | 01-26-2006 07:01 PM |
Im lebanese and I know I sure as hell can't do that :mad: , great stuff!
| leecea | 01-26-2006 10:28 PM |
[QUOTE]Oversteering a rally car is a technique used to slow the car down when you have misjudged the corner and gone in too fast.
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]... from coverage of this year's Monte Carlo rally. Lots of sideways action.
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]
Quote:
Originally Posted by flyboymike
Also, isn't whipping the tail around the quickest cornering method for tight hairpins? Even if it isn't, it's entertaining as hell.
No, not at all. But yes, it is entertaining...
[/QUOTE]
Like I said, it's confusing. Either lots of top level rally drivers are a) misjudging all the corners, b) driving in a slower way because it's more entertaining, c) know some secret about friction that doesn't apply to the rest of us :lol:
I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I'm just looking for an answer. When I read advice on learning to rally cross and it talks about taking smooth lines without sliding, then I see WRC videos of cars drifting or flicking every turn, I just don't get it.
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]... from coverage of this year's Monte Carlo rally. Lots of sideways action.
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]
Quote:
Originally Posted by flyboymike
Also, isn't whipping the tail around the quickest cornering method for tight hairpins? Even if it isn't, it's entertaining as hell.
No, not at all. But yes, it is entertaining...
[/QUOTE]
Like I said, it's confusing. Either lots of top level rally drivers are a) misjudging all the corners, b) driving in a slower way because it's more entertaining, c) know some secret about friction that doesn't apply to the rest of us :lol:
I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I'm just looking for an answer. When I read advice on learning to rally cross and it talks about taking smooth lines without sliding, then I see WRC videos of cars drifting or flicking every turn, I just don't get it.
| kg2128 | 01-26-2006 10:30 PM |
cool video, wish the quality was better then it would be awesome
| BlueF | 01-26-2006 10:50 PM |
[QUOTE=kg2128]cool video, wish the quality was better then it would be awesome[/QUOTE]
Agreed! I'm dizzy now.
Awesome video tho... thanks for sharing. That looks fun as hell!!
Agreed! I'm dizzy now.
Awesome video tho... thanks for sharing. That looks fun as hell!!
| ralliharri | 01-26-2006 11:57 PM |
I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I'm just looking for an answer. When I read advice on learning to rally cross and it talks about taking smooth lines without sliding, then I see WRC videos of cars drifting or flicking every turn, I just don't get it.[/QUOTE]
Who says taking smooth lines without sliding? Nobody, you HAVE to slide in rallycross, that's just the nature of the sport, just look at Kenneth Hansen for example. I drove on a rallycross track this summer for the first time, had a blast and sliding was the only way around, did it in a BMW grp E car.
Who says taking smooth lines without sliding? Nobody, you HAVE to slide in rallycross, that's just the nature of the sport, just look at Kenneth Hansen for example. I drove on a rallycross track this summer for the first time, had a blast and sliding was the only way around, did it in a BMW grp E car.
| Coati | 01-27-2006 12:47 AM |
[QUOTE=chowder31]Im lebanese and I know I sure as hell can't do that :mad: , great stuff![/QUOTE]
That's okay: I'm half Lebanese, and I can't do half of that. :( :lol:
Very cool vids! :banana: :cool:
That's okay: I'm half Lebanese, and I can't do half of that. :( :lol:
Very cool vids! :banana: :cool:
| psg | 01-27-2006 01:48 AM |
[QUOTE=flyboymike]Also, isn't whipping the tail around the quickest cornering method for tight hairpins? Even if it isn't, it's entertaining as hell.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=REX8]No, not at all. But yes, it is entertaining...[/QUOTE]
Of course it is; why else do you think they do it? Boost TV ratings? :lol:
A proper handbrake turn is the fastest away around 99.9% of the turns they use this technique on. Momentum!
[QUOTE=leecea]Like I said, it's confusing. Either lots of top level rally drivers are a) misjudging all the corners, b) driving in a slower way because it's more entertaining, c) know some secret about friction that doesn't apply to the rest of us
I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I'm just looking for an answer. When I read advice on learning to rally cross and it talks about taking smooth lines without sliding, then I see WRC videos of cars drifting or flicking every turn, I just don't get it.[/QUOTE]
Momentum, momentum, momentum. He who can get through a stage with the fastest sustained cornering speeds is going to set the fastest trap times and is probably going to set the fastest overall time. Watch in-car videos of top-level rally drivers; they are smooth as can be on the limit, despite taking fourth gear corners on a loose surface sideways. Of course, tarmac and gravel are entirely different schools of thought, but handbrake turns at tarmac hairpins most certainly have a purpose.
[QUOTE=REX8]No, not at all. But yes, it is entertaining...[/QUOTE]
Of course it is; why else do you think they do it? Boost TV ratings? :lol:
A proper handbrake turn is the fastest away around 99.9% of the turns they use this technique on. Momentum!
[QUOTE=leecea]Like I said, it's confusing. Either lots of top level rally drivers are a) misjudging all the corners, b) driving in a slower way because it's more entertaining, c) know some secret about friction that doesn't apply to the rest of us
I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I'm just looking for an answer. When I read advice on learning to rally cross and it talks about taking smooth lines without sliding, then I see WRC videos of cars drifting or flicking every turn, I just don't get it.[/QUOTE]
Momentum, momentum, momentum. He who can get through a stage with the fastest sustained cornering speeds is going to set the fastest trap times and is probably going to set the fastest overall time. Watch in-car videos of top-level rally drivers; they are smooth as can be on the limit, despite taking fourth gear corners on a loose surface sideways. Of course, tarmac and gravel are entirely different schools of thought, but handbrake turns at tarmac hairpins most certainly have a purpose.
| Big C | 01-27-2006 07:15 AM |
[QUOTE=leecea]Like I said, it's confusing. Either lots of top level rally drivers are a) misjudging all the corners, b) driving in a slower way because it's more entertaining, c) know some secret about friction that doesn't apply to the rest of us :lol:
I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I'm just looking for an answer. When I read advice on learning to rally cross and it talks about taking smooth lines without sliding, then I see WRC videos of cars drifting or flicking every turn, I just don't get it.[/QUOTE]
When you race on a track you get a practice session with multiple laps to perfect your braking points and lines. In a rally you don't get this luxury, even if a stage is repeated you still are usually making an estimation of how fast you can go before you even see the corner. If you mis-estimate the corner and come in too hot it is always easier to correct oversteer than it is to try to find more rotation.
A good example of what I am talking about is how my wife and I drove at Rally TN (tarmac) this summer. I knew that smooth road-racing like lines would theoretically be quicker, but with AWD cars cutting all of the corners you often had gravel/dirt/mud all over the road that wasn't there during recce. The only "safe" way to attack the blind corners in this rally was to enter these corners slightly oversteering, and then stay on the gas and adjust for the extra slide from the marbles. A few people who weren't doing this lost their cars......
There is also an argument to be made that in very powerful cars with lots of traction (I think a modded STi would be a good example) that in low traction situations dometimes they can generate more acceleration "gs" than they can in steady state cornering. Aim the car where you are trying to go and you may be faster. The sprint car example cited in one of the previous posts supports this, put 800+hp in a light car with huge tires and lots of downforce and they can generate faster corner speeds with the rear (driving) tires pointed where they want to go, not driving a conventional "steady state" line.
-C
I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I'm just looking for an answer. When I read advice on learning to rally cross and it talks about taking smooth lines without sliding, then I see WRC videos of cars drifting or flicking every turn, I just don't get it.[/QUOTE]
When you race on a track you get a practice session with multiple laps to perfect your braking points and lines. In a rally you don't get this luxury, even if a stage is repeated you still are usually making an estimation of how fast you can go before you even see the corner. If you mis-estimate the corner and come in too hot it is always easier to correct oversteer than it is to try to find more rotation.
A good example of what I am talking about is how my wife and I drove at Rally TN (tarmac) this summer. I knew that smooth road-racing like lines would theoretically be quicker, but with AWD cars cutting all of the corners you often had gravel/dirt/mud all over the road that wasn't there during recce. The only "safe" way to attack the blind corners in this rally was to enter these corners slightly oversteering, and then stay on the gas and adjust for the extra slide from the marbles. A few people who weren't doing this lost their cars......
There is also an argument to be made that in very powerful cars with lots of traction (I think a modded STi would be a good example) that in low traction situations dometimes they can generate more acceleration "gs" than they can in steady state cornering. Aim the car where you are trying to go and you may be faster. The sprint car example cited in one of the previous posts supports this, put 800+hp in a light car with huge tires and lots of downforce and they can generate faster corner speeds with the rear (driving) tires pointed where they want to go, not driving a conventional "steady state" line.
-C
| RichardM | 01-27-2006 10:19 AM |
leecea,
Do a google on "friction circle". You will find more good information that you can handle.
Do a google on "friction circle". You will find more good information that you can handle.
| Lebanese rally champ | 01-27-2006 11:19 AM |
[QUOTE=SubaruImpreza_power]Did you hit the Rev Limter at :27 Sec?
in the first video?
otherwise pretty nice. :)[/QUOTE]
yup i did hit the rev limiter cause i couldnt shift gear between these 2 corners.
Thx alot
in the first video?
otherwise pretty nice. :)[/QUOTE]
yup i did hit the rev limiter cause i couldnt shift gear between these 2 corners.
Thx alot
| Lebanese rally champ | 01-27-2006 11:22 AM |
[QUOTE=ratt_finkel]Nice Driving, gorgeous backround.[/QUOTE]
that what differentiate Lebanon from the other Middle East countries,we r on the Mediteranian sea,very beautiful scenary
that what differentiate Lebanon from the other Middle East countries,we r on the Mediteranian sea,very beautiful scenary
| Lebanese rally champ | 01-27-2006 11:24 AM |
[QUOTE=Capt Crunch]Agreed.
Is the reason you can go sideways all the time because of anti lag? I've never seen a subaru do that except on snow... all the videos I watch the driver uses the handbrake a lot.
Also, how the hell do you learn to drive like that?[/QUOTE]
well i was using the hand brake in the very tight corners,but most of the time i was using the left foot braking style which helps u in playing with the balance & the weight transfer of the car so easily.
Im a rally driver
Is the reason you can go sideways all the time because of anti lag? I've never seen a subaru do that except on snow... all the videos I watch the driver uses the handbrake a lot.
Also, how the hell do you learn to drive like that?[/QUOTE]
well i was using the hand brake in the very tight corners,but most of the time i was using the left foot braking style which helps u in playing with the balance & the weight transfer of the car so easily.
Im a rally driver
| Crash477 | 01-27-2006 11:31 AM |
Man that was beautiful! Excellent driving and control!
| Lebanese rally champ | 01-27-2006 11:31 AM |
[QUOTE=AUTOwrXER]How do you like the Motec? Also, what process does it use for anti-lag?[/QUOTE]
well i've been using the Motec on my rally car since 1999 & im using the M800 on my STI,very Proffesional ECU with aloooooooooooooot of extra options(anti lag,water injection,launch control.....)
well i've been using the Motec on my rally car since 1999 & im using the M800 on my STI,very Proffesional ECU with aloooooooooooooot of extra options(anti lag,water injection,launch control.....)
| Lebanese rally champ | 01-27-2006 11:34 AM |
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]You are the Lebanese GroupN Champ?? WoW!
Great driving![/QUOTE]
im the Lebanese overall Lebanese rally champion for 2004 & 2005 driving a Gp N car(Gp A and WRC are not allowed to race for the high cost)
;)
Great driving![/QUOTE]
im the Lebanese overall Lebanese rally champion for 2004 & 2005 driving a Gp N car(Gp A and WRC are not allowed to race for the high cost)
;)
| Lebanese rally champ | 01-27-2006 11:38 AM |
[QUOTE=tuskenraider]Yes, the slides are nicely timed, but maybe I'm missing something........sliding around losing time is great driving?[/QUOTE]
u r right,sliding around & especially on a track is ofcourse loosing alot of time,but i was not in a race,we were just having fun :banana:
u r right,sliding around & especially on a track is ofcourse loosing alot of time,but i was not in a race,we were just having fun :banana:
| Lebanese rally champ | 01-27-2006 11:41 AM |
[QUOTE=leecea]I think he was having fun, not really trying for the fastest lap.
However, it does always confuse me as to why rally drivers and track drivers have such different styles, even on tarmac. Though, I read somewhere that some drivers are adopting a more "track" oriented style on tarmac stages.[/QUOTE]
In Lebanon the Tarmac stages are soooo slippery,so we cant drive as they do in Europe(late braking,clean lining,or track style)
However, it does always confuse me as to why rally drivers and track drivers have such different styles, even on tarmac. Though, I read somewhere that some drivers are adopting a more "track" oriented style on tarmac stages.[/QUOTE]
In Lebanon the Tarmac stages are soooo slippery,so we cant drive as they do in Europe(late braking,clean lining,or track style)
| Lebanese rally champ | 01-27-2006 11:45 AM |
[QUOTE=Chromer]Didn't see much of that from coverage of this year's Monte Carlo rally. Lots of sideways action. Then again, most of the time they were on wet roads with semi-studded tires.[/QUOTE]
I did Monte Carlo rally in 03 & 04 with a 2 wheel drive Ford Puma S1600,it was realy scary especially with the slick tyres on icy & snow parts of stages
I did Monte Carlo rally in 03 & 04 with a 2 wheel drive Ford Puma S1600,it was realy scary especially with the slick tyres on icy & snow parts of stages
| Lebanese rally champ | 01-27-2006 11:52 AM |
[QUOTE=GC8drifter86]wow.......... awesome...... i wanna do that........ u have really good car control.[/QUOTE]
;) thx man
;) thx man
| Lebanese rally champ | 01-27-2006 11:55 AM |
[QUOTE=johnnyb]Those are some serious driving skills on such a tight, narrow, track. Awesome.
This post gets a 10.0.[/QUOTE]
;) next month i'll post a better quality video with inside camera too
This post gets a 10.0.[/QUOTE]
;) next month i'll post a better quality video with inside camera too
| Lebanese rally champ | 01-27-2006 11:58 AM |
[QUOTE=chowder31]Im lebanese and I know I sure as hell can't do that :mad: , great stuff![/QUOTE]
;) where r u from???
;) where r u from???
| skuttledude | 01-27-2006 11:59 AM |
[QUOTE=Lebanese rally champ];) next month i'll post a better quality video with inside camera too[/QUOTE]
Can't wait. If you need someone to host that video/s, pelase let me know. I'll be more than happy to do it. Its all for a good cause.
Can't wait. If you need someone to host that video/s, pelase let me know. I'll be more than happy to do it. Its all for a good cause.
| Lebanese rally champ | 01-27-2006 12:01 PM |
[QUOTE=BlueF]Agreed! I'm dizzy now.
Awesome video tho... thanks for sharing. That looks fun as hell!![/QUOTE]
:cool: u'll get it next month :cool:
Awesome video tho... thanks for sharing. That looks fun as hell!![/QUOTE]
:cool: u'll get it next month :cool:
| Lebanese rally champ | 01-27-2006 12:03 PM |
[QUOTE=Davis K Powers]Can't wait. If you need someone to host that video/s, pelase let me know. I'll be more than happy to do it. Its all for a good cause.[/QUOTE]
thx mate
thx mate
| makofoto | 01-27-2006 12:06 PM |
Our local Indexed '05 Auto Cross Champion, Karl Asseily just moved back to Beirut. He knows some people that know you and is looking forward to meeting you. He owns a 22B Impreza and an Evo7 with anti-lag, roll cage, etc.
| Lebanese rally champ | 01-27-2006 12:07 PM |
[QUOTE=psg]Of course it is; why else do you think they do it? Boost TV ratings? :lol:
A proper handbrake turn is the fastest away around 99.9% of the turns they use this technique on. Momentum!
Momentum, momentum, momentum. He who can get through a stage with the fastest sustained cornering speeds is going to set the fastest trap times and is probably going to set the fastest overall time. Watch in-car videos of top-level rally drivers; they are smooth as can be on the limit, despite taking fourth gear corners on a loose surface sideways. Of course, tarmac and gravel are entirely different schools of thought, but handbrake turns at tarmac hairpins most certainly have a purpose.[/QUOTE]
always USE the EASY IN FAST OUT METHOD,
exiting a corner with the maximum speed u can is the most important thing in setting good track or stage times
A proper handbrake turn is the fastest away around 99.9% of the turns they use this technique on. Momentum!
Momentum, momentum, momentum. He who can get through a stage with the fastest sustained cornering speeds is going to set the fastest trap times and is probably going to set the fastest overall time. Watch in-car videos of top-level rally drivers; they are smooth as can be on the limit, despite taking fourth gear corners on a loose surface sideways. Of course, tarmac and gravel are entirely different schools of thought, but handbrake turns at tarmac hairpins most certainly have a purpose.[/QUOTE]
always USE the EASY IN FAST OUT METHOD,
exiting a corner with the maximum speed u can is the most important thing in setting good track or stage times
| Lebanese rally champ | 01-27-2006 12:09 PM |
[QUOTE=makofoto]Out local Indexed '05 Auto Cross Champion, Karl Asseily just moved back to Beirut. He knows some people that know you and is looking forward to meeting you. He owns a 22B Impreza and an Evo7 with anti-lag, roll cage, etc.[/QUOTE]
i'll be glad to meet him anytime
i'll be glad to meet him anytime
| Lebanese rally champ | 01-27-2006 12:14 PM |
[QUOTE=Crash477]Man that was beautiful! Excellent driving and control![/QUOTE]
;) thx
;) thx
| REX8 | 01-27-2006 12:46 PM |
[QUOTE=psg]Of course it is; why else do you think they do it? Boost TV ratings? :lol:
A proper handbrake turn is the fastest away around 99.9% of the turns they use this technique on. Momentum!
Momentum, momentum, momentum. He who can get through a stage with the fastest sustained cornering speeds is going to set the fastest trap times and is probably going to set the fastest overall time. Watch in-car videos of top-level rally drivers; they are smooth as can be on the limit, despite taking fourth gear corners on a loose surface sideways. Of course, tarmac and gravel are entirely different schools of thought, but handbrake turns at tarmac hairpins most certainly have a purpose.[/QUOTE]
Nope...
If there is less traction sliding...then how do you think they are "sustainign faster cornering speeds" if they have less lateral acceleration???
Look at ANY road racing hairpin and see if you catch a car sliding through it. So 99% iof racing on road courses does it one way...and 1% slides and you think the 1% is doing it the right way???
I think the answer lies in that...even in a tarmanc rally...the pavement isn't as clean as say, tuen one at long beach. Therefore, yes its on pavement, but not in the same condition as that found on a true road course.
So yes, on a true road course hairpin, no sliding is faster. Theres about a 100 years of motor racing to prove that...
Also, if a cars suspension is setup to slide, there may be advantages there too.
A proper handbrake turn is the fastest away around 99.9% of the turns they use this technique on. Momentum!
Momentum, momentum, momentum. He who can get through a stage with the fastest sustained cornering speeds is going to set the fastest trap times and is probably going to set the fastest overall time. Watch in-car videos of top-level rally drivers; they are smooth as can be on the limit, despite taking fourth gear corners on a loose surface sideways. Of course, tarmac and gravel are entirely different schools of thought, but handbrake turns at tarmac hairpins most certainly have a purpose.[/QUOTE]
Nope...
If there is less traction sliding...then how do you think they are "sustainign faster cornering speeds" if they have less lateral acceleration???
Look at ANY road racing hairpin and see if you catch a car sliding through it. So 99% iof racing on road courses does it one way...and 1% slides and you think the 1% is doing it the right way???
I think the answer lies in that...even in a tarmanc rally...the pavement isn't as clean as say, tuen one at long beach. Therefore, yes its on pavement, but not in the same condition as that found on a true road course.
So yes, on a true road course hairpin, no sliding is faster. Theres about a 100 years of motor racing to prove that...
Also, if a cars suspension is setup to slide, there may be advantages there too.
| REX8 | 01-27-2006 12:47 PM |
[QUOTE=Lebanese rally champ]In Lebanon the Tarmac stages are soooo slippery,so we cant drive as they do in Europe(late braking,clean lining,or track style)[/QUOTE]
Exactly!
On a clean, normal road course hairpin...the "racing" line is faster...
Exactly!
On a clean, normal road course hairpin...the "racing" line is faster...
| PossumK | 01-27-2006 12:51 PM |
[QUOTE=Lebanese rally champ]well i was using the hand brake in the very tight corners,but most of the time i was using the left foot braking style which helps u in playing with the balance & the weight transfer of the car so easily.
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next month i'll post a better quality video with inside camera too
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Footbox camera, please! :)
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next month i'll post a better quality video with inside camera too
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Footbox camera, please! :)
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