| RaceComp Engineering | 02-06-2004 10:20 AM |
OK all you seasoned veteran racers,.whats your biggest "off"- "shunt" you've had
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Let's hear what we only talk about after 3-5 beers,..the biggest shunt, or off, or the stupidest,..thing you've done, while racing.
944 turbo guy
Myles Williams
944 turbo guy
Myles Williams
| kfoote | 02-06-2004 11:18 AM |
I've been fairly fortunate so far, I haven't yet had any car to car contact, but here are my biggest on track "this is not good" experiences:
Spinning sideways stopped in the middle of the track with my driver's door pointed towards a large pack of oncoming traffic. :eek:
Losing brakes completely and bouncing through the grass at 75 MPH. :eek:
Tank slapper at 65 MPH coming out of a nearly flat out right hand kink. Would not be a big deal in a car, but this was in a 6-speed 32 HP shifter kart :eek: Later in the day I either cracked or bruised a rib because I hit a bump (on track) wrong.
I have been involved in a couple of accidents on the street, but these were the closest on track moments I've had.
Spinning sideways stopped in the middle of the track with my driver's door pointed towards a large pack of oncoming traffic. :eek:
Losing brakes completely and bouncing through the grass at 75 MPH. :eek:
Tank slapper at 65 MPH coming out of a nearly flat out right hand kink. Would not be a big deal in a car, but this was in a 6-speed 32 HP shifter kart :eek: Later in the day I either cracked or bruised a rib because I hit a bump (on track) wrong.
I have been involved in a couple of accidents on the street, but these were the closest on track moments I've had.
| Subie Gal | 02-06-2004 11:56 AM |
By far my craziest shunt was "Vertical Burnsie"
[img]http://www.subiegal.com/images/rallies/Doo%20Wop%203-4%202003/fromrick.jpg[/img]
I was still new to the car,
didnt know it or the power very well.
Conditions:
It was raining...... surface went from gravel to clay.
crested a large hill into a !!! 90 R...
and the car started to slide away from the turn
as the boost kicked in..... uh ohhhh :(
too fast into the corner, too slick of a surface
[img]http://www.subiegal.com/images/rallies/Doo%20Wop%203-4%202003/fromrick1.jpg[/img]
i tried to hang on... hammered on the gas
and tried to save it..... nearly did too...
We ended up going off backwards,
instead of sideways and then just HUNG there
The front drivers side tire caught onto the
remanents of a tree root system.
[img]http://www.subiegal.com/images/rallies/Doo%20Wop%203-4%202003/vertical1.jpg[/img]
that... was scary :eek:
i'm not doing that again.... :furious:
and i have to race on that same road in 4 weeks
[url=http://www.subiegal.com/images/rallies/Doo%20Wop%203-4%202003/doowop4.htm]The Rest of the Photos[/url]
Jamie
[url]www.subiegal.com[/url]
[img]http://www.subiegal.com/images/rallies/Doo%20Wop%203-4%202003/fromrick.jpg[/img]
I was still new to the car,
didnt know it or the power very well.
Conditions:
It was raining...... surface went from gravel to clay.
crested a large hill into a !!! 90 R...
and the car started to slide away from the turn
as the boost kicked in..... uh ohhhh :(
too fast into the corner, too slick of a surface
[img]http://www.subiegal.com/images/rallies/Doo%20Wop%203-4%202003/fromrick1.jpg[/img]
i tried to hang on... hammered on the gas
and tried to save it..... nearly did too...
We ended up going off backwards,
instead of sideways and then just HUNG there
The front drivers side tire caught onto the
remanents of a tree root system.
[img]http://www.subiegal.com/images/rallies/Doo%20Wop%203-4%202003/vertical1.jpg[/img]
that... was scary :eek:
i'm not doing that again.... :furious:
and i have to race on that same road in 4 weeks
[url=http://www.subiegal.com/images/rallies/Doo%20Wop%203-4%202003/doowop4.htm]The Rest of the Photos[/url]
Jamie
[url]www.subiegal.com[/url]
| Patrick L | 02-06-2004 12:06 PM |
AH WOOPS!!!!!!!!!:eek:
That was a close one.
That was a close one.
| RaceComp Engineering | 02-06-2004 12:24 PM |
Close call
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Panoz GT car, in the rain, turn 12 @ Road Atlanta, just started to rain, cresting the hill after turn 11, 75% throttle, committed,.now the car comes under the bridge, CAR GETS VERY LIGHT, and boom the bottom drops out fom under you as you give it full throttle and manage your tractio, now youre headed towards, turn 12, downhill right hander, harder and as fast as the big turn before the straight at Lime Rock,....except @ Road Atlanta, you have to go flat through 12 for a good lap, and to be competitive. As I come down that hill and turn in, I feel the rear start coming out,just a little,,3-4 degrees,..then 6-9 degrees,.and I'm thinking stay in it,.commit,.so on play back I could hear my self yelling ,.commit,.commit,..like my first instructor 10 years ago,...I made it through but it was sideways all the ay down the hill and up onto the striped curbing,.and past the checkered flagg !!
I was dehigrated that weekend and through up in the pits afterwards,.but it didnt matter,.I grew big thich curly hair on my chest that weekend.
944 turbo guy
Myles Williams
I was dehigrated that weekend and through up in the pits afterwards,.but it didnt matter,.I grew big thich curly hair on my chest that weekend.
944 turbo guy
Myles Williams
| xstar | 02-06-2004 01:35 PM |
I spun 180 degree clockwise coming out of the Big Bend at Lime Rock Park and into the right side tirewall.
Crumpled the entire driver's side. Luckily, airbags didn't go off and no mechanical damage at all.
Big mental mistake, zero glory.
Crumpled the entire driver's side. Luckily, airbags didn't go off and no mechanical damage at all.
Big mental mistake, zero glory.
| dch | 02-06-2004 01:57 PM |
Wild West 2002. Got a little wide here coming out of a right-hander in 4th gear and clipped the bank on the left with the rear of the car. You can see where if you got off the line things could get ugly.
[IMG]http://www.subaru.net/events/2002/wildwest/CARB/images/DCP00477.jpg[/IMG]
Tried to use body english to keep the car from rolling clockwise, but it didn't work (although I did manage to bend the steering column). Ended up sliding down the road on the roof, eating dirt the whole way, and impacting upside-down nose first on the bank on the right, as the road went left again. You can see where the nose dug in and endo'd the car.
[IMG]http://www.subaru.net/events/2002/wildwest/CARB/images/DCP00476.jpg[/IMG]
A moment of silence, as the car pirouetted through the air, coming to rest in the puckerbrush.
[IMG]http://www.subaru.net/events/2002/wildwest/CARB/images/DCP00478.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.subaru.net/events/2002/wildwest/CARB/images/DCP00470.jpg[/IMG]
More photos at [url]www.subaru.net/cpd[/url]
-Doug
[IMG]http://www.subaru.net/events/2002/wildwest/CARB/images/DCP00477.jpg[/IMG]
Tried to use body english to keep the car from rolling clockwise, but it didn't work (although I did manage to bend the steering column). Ended up sliding down the road on the roof, eating dirt the whole way, and impacting upside-down nose first on the bank on the right, as the road went left again. You can see where the nose dug in and endo'd the car.
[IMG]http://www.subaru.net/events/2002/wildwest/CARB/images/DCP00476.jpg[/IMG]
A moment of silence, as the car pirouetted through the air, coming to rest in the puckerbrush.
[IMG]http://www.subaru.net/events/2002/wildwest/CARB/images/DCP00478.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.subaru.net/events/2002/wildwest/CARB/images/DCP00470.jpg[/IMG]
More photos at [url]www.subaru.net/cpd[/url]
-Doug
| 555ideways | 02-06-2004 02:05 PM |
it'll buff out
| Patrick Olsen | 02-06-2004 02:51 PM |
Hmmmm, I can't think of anything off the top of my head.
Well, maybe just one... [url]http://www.submariner.org/thepno95/Video%20clips/LRP%20August%202000/thecrash.mpg[/url] :D [b][F-bomb warning!][/b] (and more F-bomb warnings for the clip Tony linked to).
Pat Olsen
'97 Legacy 2.5GT sedan
Well, maybe just one... [url]http://www.submariner.org/thepno95/Video%20clips/LRP%20August%202000/thecrash.mpg[/url] :D [b][F-bomb warning!][/b] (and more F-bomb warnings for the clip Tony linked to).
Pat Olsen
'97 Legacy 2.5GT sedan
| Tony | 02-06-2004 03:01 PM |
And let's not forget the aftermath:
[url]http://www.submariner.org/thepno95/Video%20clips/LRP%20August%202000/crashaftermath.WMV[/url]
I don't think I'd be half as calm as you were. You must have ice water under that pasty-white skin ;)
Tony
[url]http://www.submariner.org/thepno95/Video%20clips/LRP%20August%202000/crashaftermath.WMV[/url]
I don't think I'd be half as calm as you were. You must have ice water under that pasty-white skin ;)
Tony
| Subie Gal | 02-06-2004 03:04 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Patrick Olsen [/i]
[B]Hmmmm, I can't think of anything off the top of my head.
Well, maybe just one... [url]http://www.submariner.org/thepno95/Video%20clips/LRP%20August%202000/thecrash.mpg[/url] :D
Pat Olsen
'97 Legacy 2.5GT sedan [/B][/QUOTE]
:lol: WITH/Pat - oh i sooooo remember that! :eek:
[B]Hmmmm, I can't think of anything off the top of my head.
Well, maybe just one... [url]http://www.submariner.org/thepno95/Video%20clips/LRP%20August%202000/thecrash.mpg[/url] :D
Pat Olsen
'97 Legacy 2.5GT sedan [/B][/QUOTE]
:lol: WITH/Pat - oh i sooooo remember that! :eek:
| HoRo1 | 02-06-2004 03:44 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Patrick Olsen[/i]
[B] Hmmmm, I can't think of anything off the top of my head.
Well, maybe just one... [url]http://www.submariner.org/thepno95/Video%20clips/LRP%20August%202000/thecrash.mpg[/url] :D
Pat Olsen
'97 Legacy 2.5GT sedan [/B][/QUOTE]
That one got me to download Windows Media Player for OSX.
:eek: Thank God only a bruised ego.
Edit
The aftermath file got me to download WM for OSX
[B] Hmmmm, I can't think of anything off the top of my head.
Well, maybe just one... [url]http://www.submariner.org/thepno95/Video%20clips/LRP%20August%202000/thecrash.mpg[/url] :D
Pat Olsen
'97 Legacy 2.5GT sedan [/B][/QUOTE]
That one got me to download Windows Media Player for OSX.
:eek: Thank God only a bruised ego.
Edit
The aftermath file got me to download WM for OSX
| Fitz | 02-06-2004 09:14 PM |
[IMG]http://vermontracing.com/photo/hill/okemo/2003/okemo_I/images/DSC02073.jpg[/IMG]
2003, Mt Okemo Hillclimb
I was in second place by under a second in a class of eight. I lost focus coming into a tight uphill left hander at around 85mph. Never thought a Subaru on 265 Victoracers could get snap oversteer. Overcorrected once. Overcorrected again, lost it on the inside of the corner. Put the car into a ditch on the drivers side. Wrecked both fenders, the door, sheared off the mirror, and exploded a rim. To add insult to injury, the timing belt jumped three teeth yet again affirming the law of physics that valves and pistons can not occupy the same space.
Fitz
[url]www.Flat4Racing.com[/url]
2003, Mt Okemo Hillclimb
I was in second place by under a second in a class of eight. I lost focus coming into a tight uphill left hander at around 85mph. Never thought a Subaru on 265 Victoracers could get snap oversteer. Overcorrected once. Overcorrected again, lost it on the inside of the corner. Put the car into a ditch on the drivers side. Wrecked both fenders, the door, sheared off the mirror, and exploded a rim. To add insult to injury, the timing belt jumped three teeth yet again affirming the law of physics that valves and pistons can not occupy the same space.
Fitz
[url]www.Flat4Racing.com[/url]
| gpatmac | 02-06-2004 09:55 PM |
Holy Shiite, Pat. That was you? Man, you're a celeb.:) I saw that vid long time ago (well before you moved to the island) and I still remember it clearly.
Was that an earlier Legacy you had?
Was that an earlier Legacy you had?
| Eric1855 | 02-06-2004 11:45 PM |
I dont get on the track much other than AutoX and you cant mess up TOO much there.
But this is a funny pic from when i was driving some closed back roads in the hills of Indiana above the Ohio River
[img]http://www.502streetscene.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2780&stc=1[/img]
I was really disappointed in the rear LSD performance :D
But this is a funny pic from when i was driving some closed back roads in the hills of Indiana above the Ohio River
[img]http://www.502streetscene.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2780&stc=1[/img]
I was really disappointed in the rear LSD performance :D
| Patrick Olsen | 02-06-2004 11:51 PM |
Pat - I had a '99 2.5GT that I had bought new. When I totalled it I picked up my current '97 2.5GT used.
Pat
Pat
| gpatmac | 02-07-2004 01:06 AM |
Sweet. It definitely seemed like it had some balls. I bet it was a nice car.
| alacrity024 | 02-07-2004 06:53 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Tony[/i]
[B] And let's not forget the aftermath:
[url]http://www.submariner.org/thepno95/Video%20clips/LRP%20August%202000/crashaftermath.WMV[/url]
[/B][/QUOTE]
"just following the rules... staying in the car here.. when i'm upside down it doesn't apply?"
LOL
nerves of steel....
-adam
[B] And let's not forget the aftermath:
[url]http://www.submariner.org/thepno95/Video%20clips/LRP%20August%202000/crashaftermath.WMV[/url]
[/B][/QUOTE]
"just following the rules... staying in the car here.. when i'm upside down it doesn't apply?"
LOL
nerves of steel....
-adam
| akuhner | 02-07-2004 08:00 AM |
At a rally-x, setting up for a right-left chicane going about 40mph I started the Scandinavian flick, only there was less grip than I thought. Car kept rotating in the direction I origially flicked it in, which should have been fine if I could stop before the embankment on the left. No need to worry about stoping... while going sideways on the almost flat surface, no ruts, just a few embeded rocks with maybe 1 inch rise, the car hooked up again. The momentum put the car on it's side really quick, but somehow it just stayed on the side as it slid/spun towards the embankment. The rear met the embankment and hooked up again, flipping it back on the wheels. Needless to say I was a little shocked at this turn of events...
The whole passenger side was crushed, you could see the strut tower outlined in the sheet metal! However, the only suspension damage was a slightly bent tie-rod, which was so minor I didn't notice it until PA inspection called me on it.
Oh, and after borrowing some wheels/tires and hammering out the wheel well I finished the event!
Alex
The whole passenger side was crushed, you could see the strut tower outlined in the sheet metal! However, the only suspension damage was a slightly bent tie-rod, which was so minor I didn't notice it until PA inspection called me on it.
Oh, and after borrowing some wheels/tires and hammering out the wheel well I finished the event!
Alex
| dwx | 02-07-2004 09:38 AM |
I've been fortunate to only have ever had track run-offs in spots where it was no big deal. We've had a few cars roll at rallyxs in this area, including Jamie's old Impreza.
I think Doug wins the most-expensive-boo-boo award.
There are alot of Subaru rally cars and it's hard to find a rally car that hasn't had an off at some point.
I think Doug wins the most-expensive-boo-boo award.
There are alot of Subaru rally cars and it's hard to find a rally car that hasn't had an off at some point.
| dch | 02-07-2004 03:34 PM |
A dubious distinction, at best!
| Eric1855 | 02-07-2004 06:29 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Eric1855 [/i]
[B]I dont get on the track much other than AutoX and you cant mess up TOO much there.
But this is a funny pic from when i was driving some closed back roads in the hills of Indiana above the Ohio River
[img]http://www.502streetscene.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2780&stc=1[/img]
I was really disappointed in the rear LSD performance :D [/B][/QUOTE]
doh...i cant even remote link from my own site...i need to fix that i reckon. Sorry bout that post, mods can delete if they wish.
[B]I dont get on the track much other than AutoX and you cant mess up TOO much there.
But this is a funny pic from when i was driving some closed back roads in the hills of Indiana above the Ohio River
[img]http://www.502streetscene.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2780&stc=1[/img]
I was really disappointed in the rear LSD performance :D [/B][/QUOTE]
doh...i cant even remote link from my own site...i need to fix that i reckon. Sorry bout that post, mods can delete if they wish.
| Chaste Automotive | 02-08-2004 03:35 AM |
Dropped off a 35ft cornice into a shoot in Valdez and landed fine, got a little wobble and just started tumbling for bout 1500 verstical feet (DId I mention this was on a snowboard) only broke 8 ribs, nose, thumb, and ankle.
Biggest shunt in a car was in a road car (not my fault tire blew out in the rain), on track though I have high sided my bike twice that hurt as well.
Biggest shunt in a car was in a road car (not my fault tire blew out in the rain), on track though I have high sided my bike twice that hurt as well.
| elgorey | 02-08-2004 11:07 AM |
[IMG]http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/i=wMjY2NzY0NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg[/IMG]
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| RaceComp Engineering | 02-08-2004 06:51 PM |
Elgorey,......wow..
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by elgorey [/i]
[B][IMG]http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/i=wMjY2NzY0NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg[/IMG]
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Dude where did that happen, please dont say the "chute",..that would make two of us !! Turn 3 ?........any suspension damage?
Myles
944 turbo guy
[B][IMG]http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/i=wMjY2NzY0NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg[/IMG]
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Dude where did that happen, please dont say the "chute",..that would make two of us !! Turn 3 ?........any suspension damage?
Myles
944 turbo guy
| elgorey | 02-09-2004 09:22 AM |
Re: Elgorey,......wow..
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by RaceComp Engineering [/i]
[B]Dude where did that happen, please dont say the "chute",..that would make two of us !! Turn 3 ?........any suspension damage? [/B][/QUOTE]
That was at VIR last year in february. Extremely wet and rainy, on bald Falkens (I was stupid)
Hit a puddle in Hogpen and hydroplaned off the track. And you know what happens in wet grass, there is no slowing down until you hit something!
Luckily all the damage was purely cosmetic, no suspension damage at all. (didnt even knock it out of alignment!)
[B]Dude where did that happen, please dont say the "chute",..that would make two of us !! Turn 3 ?........any suspension damage? [/B][/QUOTE]
That was at VIR last year in february. Extremely wet and rainy, on bald Falkens (I was stupid)
Hit a puddle in Hogpen and hydroplaned off the track. And you know what happens in wet grass, there is no slowing down until you hit something!
Luckily all the damage was purely cosmetic, no suspension damage at all. (didnt even knock it out of alignment!)
| mav1c | 02-10-2004 07:58 AM |
I wasn't racing, this was during an HPDE at Summit Point.
Going into turn 9. 80's race prepped (not very well) Camaro holding up the Type-R behind it, and me behind the Type-R. Suddenly the Camaro blows up and lays oil ALL though the turn. The Integra hits the oil and just plows straight off. I hit the oil and immediately spin. Hit the Integra backwards, then into the tire wall. Ended up loosing at the ground becasue the car had bounced up onto the tires and with the rear about 3 feet off the ground. Just body damage luckily. Not fun.
There's a video of it somewhere on here. Both my in-car and from the S2K following me.
Going into turn 9. 80's race prepped (not very well) Camaro holding up the Type-R behind it, and me behind the Type-R. Suddenly the Camaro blows up and lays oil ALL though the turn. The Integra hits the oil and just plows straight off. I hit the oil and immediately spin. Hit the Integra backwards, then into the tire wall. Ended up loosing at the ground becasue the car had bounced up onto the tires and with the rear about 3 feet off the ground. Just body damage luckily. Not fun.
There's a video of it somewhere on here. Both my in-car and from the S2K following me.
| ITWRX4ME | 02-10-2004 01:30 PM |
That oil thing is something I never even think about. I tend to drive like a grandma worrying about overstepping the limit. But oil dumped from the car in front! Bummer!
I've had several close calls. The worst one was in my old Honda. Turn 10 at Summit Point. I was trying to keep momentum, 'cause in that car it's all I had. So, I didn't back off as I was gaining on this M3 in front of me going into the turn. I was expecting him to get on the throttle by the time I caught up and he'd be gone.
That was the plan and it would have been fine except that he checked up in the middle of the turn. I tapped my brakes and, because I was already at 10/10ths, I got snap oversteer. I had both feet in before the instructor could yell, "Lock it up!� I was trying to reassure him my shouting back, "I got it! I got it!� :lol:
As I was drifting sideways and looking where I wanted to go, I caught sight of a chunk of the edge of the pavement missing. My left rear was heading right for it. I released the brakes and countersteered. When the rear tire hit that pothole, it snapped the front around again facing the right direction. Woohoo!
I'm pretty sure if I'd kept it locked up, that pothole would have flipped us. Nonetheless, the instructor yelled at me for lifting. "Didn't you hear me saying, 'Lock it up'?" I think he thought I was openly defying him. I just apologized to him and promised it wouldn't happen again.
I've had several close calls. The worst one was in my old Honda. Turn 10 at Summit Point. I was trying to keep momentum, 'cause in that car it's all I had. So, I didn't back off as I was gaining on this M3 in front of me going into the turn. I was expecting him to get on the throttle by the time I caught up and he'd be gone.
That was the plan and it would have been fine except that he checked up in the middle of the turn. I tapped my brakes and, because I was already at 10/10ths, I got snap oversteer. I had both feet in before the instructor could yell, "Lock it up!� I was trying to reassure him my shouting back, "I got it! I got it!� :lol:
As I was drifting sideways and looking where I wanted to go, I caught sight of a chunk of the edge of the pavement missing. My left rear was heading right for it. I released the brakes and countersteered. When the rear tire hit that pothole, it snapped the front around again facing the right direction. Woohoo!
I'm pretty sure if I'd kept it locked up, that pothole would have flipped us. Nonetheless, the instructor yelled at me for lifting. "Didn't you hear me saying, 'Lock it up'?" I think he thought I was openly defying him. I just apologized to him and promised it wouldn't happen again.
| anders8 | 02-10-2004 04:52 PM |
Maine Forest Rally. Drove off a bridge.
Maine Forest Rally. Drove off the road, rolled, landed 20 feet below the road.
Those are my biggest.
Anders
Maine Forest Rally. Drove off the road, rolled, landed 20 feet below the road.
Those are my biggest.
Anders
| GarySheehan | 02-10-2004 05:04 PM |
[IMG]http://www.teamsmr.com/images/bdfront2.jpg[/IMG]
I was testing this car at Sebring Intl. Hit a bump in the middle of turn 1 and lost the back end. The data acquisition showed 107mph when the back end stepped out. Very fast spin. Slapped the tire barrier at the outside of turn one sideways, rear tire first. Took off the front wing, front suspension, everything inthe right sidepod, rear suspension rear wing and flatbottom.
I kept my hands on the wheel and I still have pain in them 4 years after.
Glad I had insurance that day. My deductible was only $5,000.00!
Within an hour and a half they had moved all my settings over to another car and I was back on track...
[img]http://www.teamsmr.com/images/turn1.jpg[/img]
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
I was testing this car at Sebring Intl. Hit a bump in the middle of turn 1 and lost the back end. The data acquisition showed 107mph when the back end stepped out. Very fast spin. Slapped the tire barrier at the outside of turn one sideways, rear tire first. Took off the front wing, front suspension, everything inthe right sidepod, rear suspension rear wing and flatbottom.
I kept my hands on the wheel and I still have pain in them 4 years after.
Glad I had insurance that day. My deductible was only $5,000.00!
Within an hour and a half they had moved all my settings over to another car and I was back on track...
[img]http://www.teamsmr.com/images/turn1.jpg[/img]
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
| sdecker | 02-11-2004 12:35 PM |
Re: Close call
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by RaceComp Engineering [/i]
[B]Panoz GT car, in the rain, turn 12 @ Road Atlanta, just started to rain, cresting the hill after turn 11, 75% throttle, committed,.now the car comes under the bridge, CAR GETS VERY LIGHT, and boom the bottom drops out fom under you as you give it full throttle and manage your tractio, now youre headed towards, turn 12, downhill right hander, harder and as fast as the big turn before the straight at Lime Rock,....except @ Road Atlanta, you have to go flat through 12 for a good lap, and to be competitive. As I come down that hill and turn in, I feel the rear start coming out,just a little,,3-4 degrees,..then 6-9 degrees,.and I'm thinking stay in it,.commit,.so on play back I could hear my self yelling ,.commit,.commit,..like my first instructor 10 years ago,...I made it through but it was sideways all the ay down the hill and up onto the striped curbing,.and past the checkered flagg !!
I was dehigrated that weekend and through up in the pits afterwards,.but it didnt matter,.I grew big thich curly hair on my chest that weekend.
944 turbo guy
Myles Williams [/B][/QUOTE]
Man, I can relate to that experience!!!
You made me re-live it, Myles...great description. ;)
[B]Panoz GT car, in the rain, turn 12 @ Road Atlanta, just started to rain, cresting the hill after turn 11, 75% throttle, committed,.now the car comes under the bridge, CAR GETS VERY LIGHT, and boom the bottom drops out fom under you as you give it full throttle and manage your tractio, now youre headed towards, turn 12, downhill right hander, harder and as fast as the big turn before the straight at Lime Rock,....except @ Road Atlanta, you have to go flat through 12 for a good lap, and to be competitive. As I come down that hill and turn in, I feel the rear start coming out,just a little,,3-4 degrees,..then 6-9 degrees,.and I'm thinking stay in it,.commit,.so on play back I could hear my self yelling ,.commit,.commit,..like my first instructor 10 years ago,...I made it through but it was sideways all the ay down the hill and up onto the striped curbing,.and past the checkered flagg !!
I was dehigrated that weekend and through up in the pits afterwards,.but it didnt matter,.I grew big thich curly hair on my chest that weekend.
944 turbo guy
Myles Williams [/B][/QUOTE]
Man, I can relate to that experience!!!
You made me re-live it, Myles...great description. ;)
| paultg | 05-16-2005 08:33 PM |
bump, lets see this thread updated. I'm sure folks have some good stories for 2004/2005.
| Jsortor | 05-16-2005 09:00 PM |
Ok, my best one, while not remembering most of what probably looked really good.
Racing Aprilia Cup Challenge (GP 250 Bike) at Daytona Intl Raceway 2001. Wednesday Team Hammer Practice day. I get the checkered flag for our run group, but the sessions are only 20minutes so I am still riding 10/10ths until nascar turn 4. Heading down the back straight 140'ish, start braking for the Chicane. I am late apexing the turn in because a 600 is cruising in low into the corner. Out of the corner of my eye after I start to turn in, I see the 600 lose the front and low side, the bike is going right into my line. I try to stand it up in the split second I had to react and just go straight, missing the chicane, but it is too late. The 600 sweeps the side of my bike, knocking the rear up and out. I highside around 90-100Mph. From this point I do not know what happened until I open my eyes and I am laying in the grass just off the inside of the track close to the exit of the chicane. I sit up look back up the track and see safety trucks already there. I suddenly feel like I drunk off a fifth of hard liquor. I lay back down and medical gets to me. They carefully take my helmet off and pass it around out of my vision talking about it. Later when I got it back, It was cracked from the base in the back, up about 8 inches straight up the back. Inner line, foam, outer shell, all the way through. Before you get bored, I will sum up the end. Couldn't tell them what day it was. Ended up with JUST a minor concussion. Unknowingly left the hospital against medical authorization. Placed second in the race on Sunday, my career best PRO finish!
Racing Aprilia Cup Challenge (GP 250 Bike) at Daytona Intl Raceway 2001. Wednesday Team Hammer Practice day. I get the checkered flag for our run group, but the sessions are only 20minutes so I am still riding 10/10ths until nascar turn 4. Heading down the back straight 140'ish, start braking for the Chicane. I am late apexing the turn in because a 600 is cruising in low into the corner. Out of the corner of my eye after I start to turn in, I see the 600 lose the front and low side, the bike is going right into my line. I try to stand it up in the split second I had to react and just go straight, missing the chicane, but it is too late. The 600 sweeps the side of my bike, knocking the rear up and out. I highside around 90-100Mph. From this point I do not know what happened until I open my eyes and I am laying in the grass just off the inside of the track close to the exit of the chicane. I sit up look back up the track and see safety trucks already there. I suddenly feel like I drunk off a fifth of hard liquor. I lay back down and medical gets to me. They carefully take my helmet off and pass it around out of my vision talking about it. Later when I got it back, It was cracked from the base in the back, up about 8 inches straight up the back. Inner line, foam, outer shell, all the way through. Before you get bored, I will sum up the end. Couldn't tell them what day it was. Ended up with JUST a minor concussion. Unknowingly left the hospital against medical authorization. Placed second in the race on Sunday, my career best PRO finish!
| GarySheehan | 05-16-2005 09:23 PM |
I think most here have seen this one...
[URL=http://www.teamsmr.com/movies/WatkinsGlenCrash.wmv]Video of Grand-Am Cup Crash at The Glen[/URL]
[img]http://www.teamsmr.com/images/294_19a.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.teamsmr.com/images/CrushedS4.jpg[/img]
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
[URL=http://www.teamsmr.com/movies/WatkinsGlenCrash.wmv]Video of Grand-Am Cup Crash at The Glen[/URL]
[img]http://www.teamsmr.com/images/294_19a.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.teamsmr.com/images/CrushedS4.jpg[/img]
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
| sprinkdawg | 05-17-2005 12:45 AM |
Just simply ran off the road in Bishop's Bend (turn 14) at Sebring. 100 MPH into the tire barrier at night.
| cooleyjb | 05-17-2005 01:19 AM |
I'm still lucky. My worst was at a HPDE where brakes went to the floor at the end of 150MPH back straight. Runout was over half mile long so no impact. As I pulled into the pits the brake pads caught on fire scaring the crap out of the pit referee. Of course the next thing I see was him running at me with a fire can and flames coming over the fenders of a brand new paintjob on my dad's Porsche who I had been chaisng around the tarck.
| kfoote | 05-17-2005 10:49 AM |
Since I posted over a year ago, i have had my first instance of significant car-car contact, though it was still relatively minor for me:
13 Hour Enduro at VIR last Oct Driving a Spec Miata, just after a restart went side by side with another spec through the uphill esses, I was on driver's right trying to go around on the outside. We were even entering the first left hand bend, as expected he pulled about 3 ft ahead there, I pulled about 3 ft ahead during the first right. He got a little wide and went off track on the next left (I did leave enough room, he was 4 wheels off and pointed off track well before he was out of pavement), came back on and put a good ding in my driver's door. I lost about 3/4 of a second, he broke the RF suspension and was out for the race.
13 Hour Enduro at VIR last Oct Driving a Spec Miata, just after a restart went side by side with another spec through the uphill esses, I was on driver's right trying to go around on the outside. We were even entering the first left hand bend, as expected he pulled about 3 ft ahead there, I pulled about 3 ft ahead during the first right. He got a little wide and went off track on the next left (I did leave enough room, he was 4 wheels off and pointed off track well before he was out of pavement), came back on and put a good ding in my driver's door. I lost about 3/4 of a second, he broke the RF suspension and was out for the race.
| RB5 Clone | 05-17-2005 04:58 PM |
Stating out in Rally right...(wroooonggg!)
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1st performance rally event, Ski Sawmill ClubRally 2002.
I'm codriving in a Fiat X1/9, built up like a baby Lancia Stratos, super cool little red Italian wedgie. Very fast, wicked loud.
OK, so it's Stage 2, we're going about 70 mph thru deep dark Pennsylvaia woods. Many many LARGE trees right next to road.
Fly off a jump, land a little off kilter.
Begin to fishtail, 2-3-4 times. Driver gradually gets a grip on car's direction of travel -- headed traight for a huge boulder on L side of road...AAAAAAGGGH!
Steers away from rock. Whoa, we shoot sideways into ditch on the right. Start smacking big rocks over there.
Roll once, BAM! Then airborne...verry quiet all of a sudden
Roll again, BAM! Airborne again, quiet...
Roll 2 more times, fly down a banking and hit a tree 10 feet off the ground. Land on roof.
We're hanging upside-down in the belts, "You OK?" "Yeh, I'm OK...we gotta kiss the guy who built this roll cage!"
Then we see upside-down feet running up to us. Spectators. A little voice, "Umm, are you dudes, like, ALIVE in there...?" They help us out of what's left of Ron's car.
Literally 2 minutes later we are watching replay of the crash on a spectator's video camera. He promised to send us a copy, never did. Figures.
Cheers,
Dave G
[url]www.lastditchracing.net[/url]
:eek:
I'm codriving in a Fiat X1/9, built up like a baby Lancia Stratos, super cool little red Italian wedgie. Very fast, wicked loud.
OK, so it's Stage 2, we're going about 70 mph thru deep dark Pennsylvaia woods. Many many LARGE trees right next to road.
Fly off a jump, land a little off kilter.
Begin to fishtail, 2-3-4 times. Driver gradually gets a grip on car's direction of travel -- headed traight for a huge boulder on L side of road...AAAAAAGGGH!
Steers away from rock. Whoa, we shoot sideways into ditch on the right. Start smacking big rocks over there.
Roll once, BAM! Then airborne...verry quiet all of a sudden
Roll again, BAM! Airborne again, quiet...
Roll 2 more times, fly down a banking and hit a tree 10 feet off the ground. Land on roof.
We're hanging upside-down in the belts, "You OK?" "Yeh, I'm OK...we gotta kiss the guy who built this roll cage!"
Then we see upside-down feet running up to us. Spectators. A little voice, "Umm, are you dudes, like, ALIVE in there...?" They help us out of what's left of Ron's car.
Literally 2 minutes later we are watching replay of the crash on a spectator's video camera. He promised to send us a copy, never did. Figures.
Cheers,
Dave G
[url]www.lastditchracing.net[/url]
:eek:
| trhoppe | 05-17-2005 05:03 PM |
Wow, some serious shunts in here. I've had :knocks on wood: no contact in the club races I've done and only 4 wheels off at Roebling in the rain in the STi, but I just drove straight off recovering a spin.
-Tom
-Tom
| goto_racing | 05-17-2005 07:42 PM |
I too have been pretty fortunate with the amount of incidents and there severity, but not really in the timing...
The situtation. Leading the E3 class at the inagural 25 Hour at T-Hill by a 15 lap margin, 1.5 hours to go in my little 87 crx(goes 2+hours on a tank). the car has been a champ with no mech problems of any kind all weekend. The win is assured. Pure Bliss! Driving T-hill on a Sunday morning has never been this fun! I mean, we would have to spend at least 45 minutes in the pits to lose this lead...
Running behind another E3 car(mini cooper, many many laps down). We have been running together since I cam back on the track, just chillin, waiting for the clock to run out. The overall race leader, a Grand-Am porsche, and that years winner, makes a move inside us at turn 8( a 90+mph, left hand, narrow turn, for those who don't know). The mini and I move right to let the faster class car by. As it does so, it's rear end is severly pitched out, contacting the mini. the Porsche recovers and gets away. The mini spins sidways. I am only about 2 car lengths back. too fast to lift or brake, going off here means a roll. so: inside or outside. My most cars on turn 8 go down the track when they spin here. I go outside. The mini turns 90, doesn't lock the brakes up, and "backs" into my front wheel, removing it from the car. I go straight off into the dirt and slide on the left sub frame for about 300ft. scary sleigh ride, but worse, hearing that noise, I knew that we had just lost the race. It was a sickeing feeling. lesson learned. Enduros can be lost at any time.
Amazingly, we still finished 28th overall and 4th in class. It took second place an hour to catch us, even as we sat in the pits. That was the most painful hour of racing I have ever had.
I felt really bad too because Brian had just double stinted(and nearly peed himself), to get us that huge lead. We didn't need the extra time, but still his effort was wasted because I went outside. I still go outside when people spin on that turn. It always works now. Just not that day.
[url]http://www.gotoracing.com/cgi-bin/gotogallery/index.cgi?mode=album&startitem=65&album=/25Hour[/url]
Chris Lock
The situtation. Leading the E3 class at the inagural 25 Hour at T-Hill by a 15 lap margin, 1.5 hours to go in my little 87 crx(goes 2+hours on a tank). the car has been a champ with no mech problems of any kind all weekend. The win is assured. Pure Bliss! Driving T-hill on a Sunday morning has never been this fun! I mean, we would have to spend at least 45 minutes in the pits to lose this lead...
Running behind another E3 car(mini cooper, many many laps down). We have been running together since I cam back on the track, just chillin, waiting for the clock to run out. The overall race leader, a Grand-Am porsche, and that years winner, makes a move inside us at turn 8( a 90+mph, left hand, narrow turn, for those who don't know). The mini and I move right to let the faster class car by. As it does so, it's rear end is severly pitched out, contacting the mini. the Porsche recovers and gets away. The mini spins sidways. I am only about 2 car lengths back. too fast to lift or brake, going off here means a roll. so: inside or outside. My most cars on turn 8 go down the track when they spin here. I go outside. The mini turns 90, doesn't lock the brakes up, and "backs" into my front wheel, removing it from the car. I go straight off into the dirt and slide on the left sub frame for about 300ft. scary sleigh ride, but worse, hearing that noise, I knew that we had just lost the race. It was a sickeing feeling. lesson learned. Enduros can be lost at any time.
Amazingly, we still finished 28th overall and 4th in class. It took second place an hour to catch us, even as we sat in the pits. That was the most painful hour of racing I have ever had.
I felt really bad too because Brian had just double stinted(and nearly peed himself), to get us that huge lead. We didn't need the extra time, but still his effort was wasted because I went outside. I still go outside when people spin on that turn. It always works now. Just not that day.
[url]http://www.gotoracing.com/cgi-bin/gotogallery/index.cgi?mode=album&startitem=65&album=/25Hour[/url]
Chris Lock
| silver04rs | 05-18-2005 05:46 AM |
i wrote this a year or two ago, just found the thread and pasted it
The scariest thing ive ever done in my car happened tonight. It started out as a great night, me and three of my freinds decide to go and drift some dirt roads out by our house. The place we chose was perefect. It was a nice left about four lanes wide, just a perfect second gear corner. So were out having the time of our lives when I decide to drive my buddys wagon. I wanted to try it out because he just got some real rally tires on it. These tires are amazing, thay hook up so much better than mine that I get cocky. So I get back in my car and decide to take my freind tim for a ride. He drives a bagged truck so he is loving this. I go out, bust a nice preset and almost go off the road due to lack of traction, but it looked sick because I had to point the car back in the direction I was coming from. So I go to turn around do a few figure 8's and head back to the 90 left. I come into it just as fast but theres still some dust, set the corner late and slide to the other side of the road. Im hard in second on the limiter sliding sidways through a feild, then it happens. I go into a slight ditch and my side of the car starts to go up in the air. It keeps going up and im like oh *****!!! So its up there and it just stops. Im sitting on the side of my car up against a bunch of bushes. not leaning on a cliff or upside down, just balanced on two tires and leanong on a bunch of sage bushes. Im up there for a few seconds and then I realize my car is still running so I turned into the bushes so it would set back down. luckly it did, but when it came down it bottemed out the driver side hard. Ive jumped the thing two feet off the ground and had it land smooth. This was harsh, and it felt like it fell for hours. when it came down I cant think of a time in my life ive ever been hapier. So i pull over to my freinds and there all like stoked on what they just saw. So I ended up with two blown tire beads. not all the way but pushed back a ways and full of dirt and sticks. For some odd reason I cary two full size spares at all time. so I through them both on and went to the gas station wher I sat in shock for half an hour. But it was still a good night because I dont think I bent or broke anything.
travis- the gravel crew
[url]www.gcrallyx.com[/url]
The scariest thing ive ever done in my car happened tonight. It started out as a great night, me and three of my freinds decide to go and drift some dirt roads out by our house. The place we chose was perefect. It was a nice left about four lanes wide, just a perfect second gear corner. So were out having the time of our lives when I decide to drive my buddys wagon. I wanted to try it out because he just got some real rally tires on it. These tires are amazing, thay hook up so much better than mine that I get cocky. So I get back in my car and decide to take my freind tim for a ride. He drives a bagged truck so he is loving this. I go out, bust a nice preset and almost go off the road due to lack of traction, but it looked sick because I had to point the car back in the direction I was coming from. So I go to turn around do a few figure 8's and head back to the 90 left. I come into it just as fast but theres still some dust, set the corner late and slide to the other side of the road. Im hard in second on the limiter sliding sidways through a feild, then it happens. I go into a slight ditch and my side of the car starts to go up in the air. It keeps going up and im like oh *****!!! So its up there and it just stops. Im sitting on the side of my car up against a bunch of bushes. not leaning on a cliff or upside down, just balanced on two tires and leanong on a bunch of sage bushes. Im up there for a few seconds and then I realize my car is still running so I turned into the bushes so it would set back down. luckly it did, but when it came down it bottemed out the driver side hard. Ive jumped the thing two feet off the ground and had it land smooth. This was harsh, and it felt like it fell for hours. when it came down I cant think of a time in my life ive ever been hapier. So i pull over to my freinds and there all like stoked on what they just saw. So I ended up with two blown tire beads. not all the way but pushed back a ways and full of dirt and sticks. For some odd reason I cary two full size spares at all time. so I through them both on and went to the gas station wher I sat in shock for half an hour. But it was still a good night because I dont think I bent or broke anything.
travis- the gravel crew
[url]www.gcrallyx.com[/url]
| akuhner | 05-18-2005 09:38 AM |
[QUOTE=silver04rs] It started out as a great night, me and three of my freinds decide to go and drift some dirt roads out by our house. [/QUOTE]
:rolleyes: This thread is titled "OKall you [B]seasoned veteran racers[/B],.whats your biggest "off"- "shunt" you've had", you were essentially street racing, even if it wasn't really competitive. I even felt pretty lame that the 'shunt' I posted about was at a lowly rally cross...
:rolleyes: This thread is titled "OKall you [B]seasoned veteran racers[/B],.whats your biggest "off"- "shunt" you've had", you were essentially street racing, even if it wasn't really competitive. I even felt pretty lame that the 'shunt' I posted about was at a lowly rally cross...
| bjorn240 | 05-18-2005 09:50 AM |
Come on, Car #187, everybody knows that irresponsible driving on open roads is totally bitchin'! Later, we can post the "Coolest time I killed someone doing something stupid on open roads" thread.
No bang ups of any merit whatsoever to report. I like to tell myself that's because of the fantastic co-driving, but I know better.
- Christian
No bang ups of any merit whatsoever to report. I like to tell myself that's because of the fantastic co-driving, but I know better.
- Christian
| CirrusWRX | 05-18-2005 10:07 AM |
Just an HPDE with 4 off at Pocono
[url]http://www.teamiac.com/events2004/pir-08-29-04/videos/Kyle_FW.wmv[/url]
(Me narrating the course, as asked to by the GRD Media people). You can see the video, but basically, involved coming out of the bowl and not looking far enough ahead of me to see that the Porsche was coming to a damned near stop. STi in front of me is a good friend, and rightly cites that the Porsche driver does NOT signal a pass, and in HPDE 2, if you pass without a signal, you're black flagged. Of course, in this situation, I was coming in way too hot and thought they were BOTH going to stop, thus leaving me with no other option than to point to the right.
No damage of any sort, just a bumpy ride for a few seconds. I SHOULD have pitted in, as stated by the rules when you put 4 off, but I think my mind was elsewhere.
Rumor I heard was that the Porsche driver missed a shift and lunched a gearbox. We've hashed this out repeatedly and basically I think all of us agree we all did some things stupid AND some things smart. Porsche driver should've given point by to blue STi or signal that something was wrong and get the hell off the line, blue STi should have realized that stopping at that point was more dangerous than passing without a signal from the leading car, and I should have been looking further down the course much more than I was. There was no reason for my off other than the fact that it caught me by surprise, which, is entirely my fault given the distance involved.
But, nobody got hurt, no paint was swapped, and we all learned a bit of what not to do.
[url]http://www.teamiac.com/events2004/pir-08-29-04/videos/Kyle_FW.wmv[/url]
(Me narrating the course, as asked to by the GRD Media people). You can see the video, but basically, involved coming out of the bowl and not looking far enough ahead of me to see that the Porsche was coming to a damned near stop. STi in front of me is a good friend, and rightly cites that the Porsche driver does NOT signal a pass, and in HPDE 2, if you pass without a signal, you're black flagged. Of course, in this situation, I was coming in way too hot and thought they were BOTH going to stop, thus leaving me with no other option than to point to the right.
No damage of any sort, just a bumpy ride for a few seconds. I SHOULD have pitted in, as stated by the rules when you put 4 off, but I think my mind was elsewhere.
Rumor I heard was that the Porsche driver missed a shift and lunched a gearbox. We've hashed this out repeatedly and basically I think all of us agree we all did some things stupid AND some things smart. Porsche driver should've given point by to blue STi or signal that something was wrong and get the hell off the line, blue STi should have realized that stopping at that point was more dangerous than passing without a signal from the leading car, and I should have been looking further down the course much more than I was. There was no reason for my off other than the fact that it caught me by surprise, which, is entirely my fault given the distance involved.
But, nobody got hurt, no paint was swapped, and we all learned a bit of what not to do.
| pio!pio! | 05-18-2005 02:36 PM |
[QUOTE=GarySheehan]I think most here have seen this one...
[URL=http://www.teamsmr.com/movies/WatkinsGlenCrash.wmv]Video of Grand-Am Cup Crash at The Glen[/URL]
[img]http://www.teamsmr.com/images/294_19a.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.teamsmr.com/images/CrushedS4.jpg[/img]
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url][/QUOTE]
Did that other driver ever apologize to you? I remember on TV he looked pissed off and it seemed clearly his fault.
After that I don't think I saw you racing in GAC again...did it affect your chances at getting a ride in that series?
[URL=http://www.teamsmr.com/movies/WatkinsGlenCrash.wmv]Video of Grand-Am Cup Crash at The Glen[/URL]
[img]http://www.teamsmr.com/images/294_19a.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.teamsmr.com/images/CrushedS4.jpg[/img]
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url][/QUOTE]
Did that other driver ever apologize to you? I remember on TV he looked pissed off and it seemed clearly his fault.
After that I don't think I saw you racing in GAC again...did it affect your chances at getting a ride in that series?
| Butt Dyno | 05-18-2005 02:45 PM |
[QUOTE=pio!pio!]Did that other driver ever apologize to you? I remember on TV he looked pissed off and it seemed clearly his fault.
After that I don't think I saw you racing in GAC again...did it affect your chances at getting a ride in that series?[/QUOTE]
Original thread for those curious (I had forgotten some of the details)
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=585417&highlight=sheehan[/url]
I have been wondering what pio was wondering as well :)
After that I don't think I saw you racing in GAC again...did it affect your chances at getting a ride in that series?[/QUOTE]
Original thread for those curious (I had forgotten some of the details)
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=585417&highlight=sheehan[/url]
I have been wondering what pio was wondering as well :)
| TubeDriver | 05-18-2005 02:53 PM |
[QUOTE=elgorey] And you know what happens in wet grass, there is no slowing down until you hit something![/QUOTE]
Nope, at at HPDE at BeaveRun '04 I was pushing it too hard, got a bit sloppy and overheated my RA-1s. I had at least 2-3 corners were my tires were clearly saying "OK, we have had enough and are going to go bye bye right now" but I was trying to stay ahead of someone so I ignored my head and kept listening to my heart (you can do it, just keep up the pace). I was approuching fast turn 7 but in the middle of turn 6 (90 degree , slow, uphill left hander) my rear tires went bye bye, I spun around and than hooked up and shot straight off the track. I was going about 50-60 mph (it had rained hard all night and morning). As I flew through the grass (I could turn the steering wheel to full lock in either direction with no apparent effect) I noticed a rather large (100'+ tall) mound of grass that surrounded this section of the grass/track. I figure if I plow into the side of it I will end upside down. By using the power of the force, I somehow get my car so that it is sliding alongside the base of the hill. This goes on for another 10 seconds or so and I end up coming to a gentle stop right of the track at turn 7. Absolutely no damage at all, I just picked up 50+lbs of mudd during my 1/4 mile slide.
Take home message: use your brain NOT your heart when driving fast.
Oh yea, my wife was riding shotgun. Her only comment during the entire slide was "Oh great" as we hurtled towards the hill.:alien:
Nope, at at HPDE at BeaveRun '04 I was pushing it too hard, got a bit sloppy and overheated my RA-1s. I had at least 2-3 corners were my tires were clearly saying "OK, we have had enough and are going to go bye bye right now" but I was trying to stay ahead of someone so I ignored my head and kept listening to my heart (you can do it, just keep up the pace). I was approuching fast turn 7 but in the middle of turn 6 (90 degree , slow, uphill left hander) my rear tires went bye bye, I spun around and than hooked up and shot straight off the track. I was going about 50-60 mph (it had rained hard all night and morning). As I flew through the grass (I could turn the steering wheel to full lock in either direction with no apparent effect) I noticed a rather large (100'+ tall) mound of grass that surrounded this section of the grass/track. I figure if I plow into the side of it I will end upside down. By using the power of the force, I somehow get my car so that it is sliding alongside the base of the hill. This goes on for another 10 seconds or so and I end up coming to a gentle stop right of the track at turn 7. Absolutely no damage at all, I just picked up 50+lbs of mudd during my 1/4 mile slide.
Take home message: use your brain NOT your heart when driving fast.
Oh yea, my wife was riding shotgun. Her only comment during the entire slide was "Oh great" as we hurtled towards the hill.:alien:
| AndyRoo | 05-18-2005 05:05 PM |
[QUOTE=ButtDyno]Original thread for those curious (I had forgotten some of the details)
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=585417&highlight=sheehan[/url]
I have been wondering what pio was wondering as well :)[/QUOTE]
+1
also, did the commentator ever apologize for being a moron? :lol:
i didn't think it was possible to cut someone off from behind...
- andrew
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=585417&highlight=sheehan[/url]
I have been wondering what pio was wondering as well :)[/QUOTE]
+1
also, did the commentator ever apologize for being a moron? :lol:
i didn't think it was possible to cut someone off from behind...
- andrew
| GarySheehan | 05-18-2005 09:03 PM |
Man, Jepp was absolutely livid after that crash! He was stalking back and forth trackside cursing me out with an intensity that would make a sailor blush. My car was partially on track and I was still making sure all my parts wer still attached, so I stayed in the car through the whole thing. I even radioed my crew and told them to meet me at the medical center with a wrench or two for backup. They brought Bob Aines instead :)
Jepp apologized for his after-crash-behavior at dinner that night. But he still blamed the incident on me. He said he had expected me to slot in behind him. I said that we were racing for the lead, that I had the inside line for the next two corners and I expected him to give me racing room. We parted ways in disagreement.
We saw and talked to each other a few times at the California Speedway race in October. Just stuff about how things were going that weekend, blah, blah.
He's not a bad guy. We just see the incident differently. If either of us had done what the other expected, there would not have been an incident. The lesson I learned is that you the guy next to you won't necessarily do what you expect him to, regardless of how strongly you feel about it and how right or wrong it is.
Looking back on it, if I had backed off and gave him the corner, there would be a lot more cash in my pocket. However, given the situation again, I don't know if I would do anything differently. I like the idea of racing side by side and fighting it out in the corners. I'm pretty aggressive and I think it would be tough to hand the lead of a big race over just because a driver got up inside of me.
We shall see...
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
Jepp apologized for his after-crash-behavior at dinner that night. But he still blamed the incident on me. He said he had expected me to slot in behind him. I said that we were racing for the lead, that I had the inside line for the next two corners and I expected him to give me racing room. We parted ways in disagreement.
We saw and talked to each other a few times at the California Speedway race in October. Just stuff about how things were going that weekend, blah, blah.
He's not a bad guy. We just see the incident differently. If either of us had done what the other expected, there would not have been an incident. The lesson I learned is that you the guy next to you won't necessarily do what you expect him to, regardless of how strongly you feel about it and how right or wrong it is.
Looking back on it, if I had backed off and gave him the corner, there would be a lot more cash in my pocket. However, given the situation again, I don't know if I would do anything differently. I like the idea of racing side by side and fighting it out in the corners. I'm pretty aggressive and I think it would be tough to hand the lead of a big race over just because a driver got up inside of me.
We shall see...
Gary
Sheehan Motor Racing
[url]www.teamSMR.com[/url]
| DILLIGAF Racing | 05-18-2005 09:09 PM |
[QUOTE=TubeDriver]Nope, at at HPDE at BeaveRun '04 I was pushing it too hard, got a bit sloppy and overheated my RA-1s. I had at least 2-3 corners were my tires were clearly saying "OK, we have had enough and are going to go bye bye right now" but I was trying to stay ahead of someone so I ignored my head and kept listening to my heart (you can do it, just keep up the pace). I was approuching fast turn 7 but in the middle of turn 6 (90 degree , slow, uphill left hander) my rear tires went bye bye, I spun around and than hooked up and shot straight off the track. I was going about 50-60 mph (it had rained hard all night and morning). As I flew through the grass (I could turn the steering wheel to full lock in either direction with no apparent effect) I noticed a rather large (100'+ tall) mound of grass that surrounded this section of the grass/track. I figure if I plow into the side of it I will end upside down. By using the power of the force, I somehow get my car so that it is sliding alongside the base of the hill. This goes on for another 10 seconds or so and I end up coming to a gentle stop right of the track at turn 7. Absolutely no damage at all, I just picked up 50+lbs of mudd during my 1/4 mile slide.
Take home message: use your brain NOT your heart when driving fast.
Oh yea, my wife was riding shotgun. Her only comment during the entire slide was "Oh great" as we hurtled towards the hill.:alien:[/QUOTE]
I honestly think i was in the back of our trailer watching this all unfold. By any chance, was a BMW Z involved in any way? And is your car WRB?
Take home message: use your brain NOT your heart when driving fast.
Oh yea, my wife was riding shotgun. Her only comment during the entire slide was "Oh great" as we hurtled towards the hill.:alien:[/QUOTE]
I honestly think i was in the back of our trailer watching this all unfold. By any chance, was a BMW Z involved in any way? And is your car WRB?
| DILLIGAF Racing | 05-18-2005 09:11 PM |
Ok, now that I posted that, and think back, that was a different wreck, and the WRX had to be flat bedded off of the track. I do vaguely remember watching your off though.
| 8Complex | 05-18-2005 11:11 PM |
I was racing someone to the restrooms at an autox and got there first. Jumpkicked the door open and twisted my ankle real good. It hurt.
| Tensen | 05-19-2005 01:02 AM |
does running out of the way of a few dozen out of control race/rally cars count? :lol:
sometimes it can be more dangerous behind the lens than behind the wheel
sometimes it can be more dangerous behind the lens than behind the wheel
| silver04rs | 05-19-2005 04:25 AM |
[QUOTE=Car #187]:rolleyes: This thread is titled "OKall you [B]seasoned veteran racers[/B],.whats your biggest "off"- "shunt" you've had", you were essentially street racing, even if it wasn't really competitive. I even felt pretty lame that the 'shunt' I posted about was at a lowly rally cross...[/QUOTE]
what the **** is your problem? i share my story and you rip into me like im some punk kid drifting on a residential street. this was in the middle of nowhere so i wasnt endangering anybody but myself and my passenger. i dont have the money to go pay a track so i can practice on there land, and by running public roads i feel i have become a GREAT driver. i am second in CRS rallycross right now running my RS against a to of STIs WRXs and EVOS'.
what the **** is your problem? i share my story and you rip into me like im some punk kid drifting on a residential street. this was in the middle of nowhere so i wasnt endangering anybody but myself and my passenger. i dont have the money to go pay a track so i can practice on there land, and by running public roads i feel i have become a GREAT driver. i am second in CRS rallycross right now running my RS against a to of STIs WRXs and EVOS'.
| gravel | 05-19-2005 09:24 AM |
Yes, however, this whole thread wasn't about what you pull off on the streets at all - please keep this stuff to OT where it belongs
| TubeDriver | 05-19-2005 09:59 AM |
No Z involves and I was in a Silver S2000 at the times. It's nice to know someone else had a 30+ sec off and did not hurt anyone/car as well. :alien:
[QUOTE=DILLIGAF Racing]I honestly think i was in the back of our trailer watching this all unfold. By any chance, was a BMW Z involved in any way? And is your car WRB?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DILLIGAF Racing]I honestly think i was in the back of our trailer watching this all unfold. By any chance, was a BMW Z involved in any way? And is your car WRB?[/QUOTE]
| akuhner | 05-19-2005 10:00 AM |
[QUOTE=silver04rs]what the **** is your problem? i share my story and you rip into me like im some punk kid drifting on a residential street. this was in the middle of nowhere so i wasnt endangering anybody but myself and my passenger. i dont have the money to go pay a track so i can practice on there land, and by running public roads i feel i have become a GREAT driver. i am second in CRS rallycross right now running my RS against a to of STIs WRXs and EVOS'.[/QUOTE]
Seriously dude, you posted that without a second thought if it belonged or not? You didn't notice that anything even remotely resembling street racing, meaning anything not sanctioned by a motorsports governing body, is ripe for flaming in the Motorsports forum? Do what you have to, that's cool that you rock at rally-x, but don't expect a pat on the back for a mistake you made while dicking around on backroads.
Seriously dude, you posted that without a second thought if it belonged or not? You didn't notice that anything even remotely resembling street racing, meaning anything not sanctioned by a motorsports governing body, is ripe for flaming in the Motorsports forum? Do what you have to, that's cool that you rock at rally-x, but don't expect a pat on the back for a mistake you made while dicking around on backroads.
| 8Complex | 05-19-2005 10:56 AM |
[QUOTE=Car #187]Seriously dude, you posted that without a second thought if it belonged or not? You didn't notice that anything even remotely resembling street racing, meaning anything not sanctioned by a motorsports governing body, is ripe for flaming in the Motorsports forum? Do what you have to, that's cool that you rock at rally-x, but don't expect a pat on the back for a mistake you made while dicking around on backroads.[/QUOTE]
Calm down there. He was on DIRT roads, ie where noone else drives. He was not racing anyone. I'm not condoning street racing, but you're the only person in this thread who has a problem with someone messing around where noone else is in danger.
Now, everyone go back to the original intent of this thread.
Calm down there. He was on DIRT roads, ie where noone else drives. He was not racing anyone. I'm not condoning street racing, but you're the only person in this thread who has a problem with someone messing around where noone else is in danger.
Now, everyone go back to the original intent of this thread.
| Rodan | 05-19-2005 11:49 AM |
:rolleyes:
Well this thread is done.
Well this thread is done.
| akuhner | 05-19-2005 12:23 PM |
[QUOTE=8Complex]Calm down there. He was on DIRT roads, ie where noone else drives. He was not racing anyone. I'm not condoning street racing, but you're the only person in this thread who has a problem with someone messing around where noone else is in danger.[/QUOTE]
Gravel and Bjorn240 seem to agree with me.
If a road exists, even a dirt one, it's there because someone drives on it. Please do not even hint at condoning "practice" for any type of motor sport on any type of public road, it is bad for the community and it's not any different from street racing. It's not our point of view that matters, it's the impression that we give outsiders looking in at motor sport. True road racers would never condone tearing around tarmac roads for "practice," just as true rally guys can't turn a blind eye to someone "rally driving" on an open public road (heck, even NASCAR guys wouldn't encourage tearing around the block going left! :lol: ).
I wish I had more on-topic to add to this thread, but I only "shunted" that one time at rally-x. Thankfully I haven't had any other incidents that lived up to putting my car on it's side!
Alex
Gravel and Bjorn240 seem to agree with me.
If a road exists, even a dirt one, it's there because someone drives on it. Please do not even hint at condoning "practice" for any type of motor sport on any type of public road, it is bad for the community and it's not any different from street racing. It's not our point of view that matters, it's the impression that we give outsiders looking in at motor sport. True road racers would never condone tearing around tarmac roads for "practice," just as true rally guys can't turn a blind eye to someone "rally driving" on an open public road (heck, even NASCAR guys wouldn't encourage tearing around the block going left! :lol: ).
I wish I had more on-topic to add to this thread, but I only "shunted" that one time at rally-x. Thankfully I haven't had any other incidents that lived up to putting my car on it's side!
Alex
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