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One-Of-A-Kind Shift Knob part 2

Turn in Concepts 11-07-2006 10:43 PM

Hey Chris,

I know I still owe you a PM, but how about you call me instead. Tony and I have been thinking through ideas, and we've got some for you.

-Clint
WRXDriftR 11-07-2006 11:01 PM

[quote=G3Red04WRX;15908508]I have got to say, you are very talented. I would like to have a custom shift knob made when you are ready to start making them. I will be able to provide you with a complete mechanical detail drawing and a 3d rendered view of the completed shift knob. I would be willing to pay you a decent amount of money for the shift knob. What I am going after would be very simple and nowhere near as complicated as the designs you have come up with so far. Let me know when your shop is opened.

BTW, saw your shift knob on ebay and almost bid on it, but i figured i would get around to asking about a custom job instead of having 2 piston knobs.[/quote]
You have a PM

[quote=Turn in Concepts;15908544]Hey Chris,

I know I still owe you a PM, but how about you call me instead. Tony and I have been thinking through ideas, and we've got some for you.

-Clint[/quote]
Called your place, but I guess you're not at work now :lol:
Ghosthound 11-08-2006 04:20 AM

i dont know why but that first one reminds me of a pen15. as for the other ones, they look nice.
WRXDriftR 11-08-2006 10:26 AM

[quote=Ghosthound;15910843]i dont know why but that first one reminds me of a pen15. as for the other ones, they look nice.[/quote]

possibly you're a pervert? :confused:
eric rxb 11-08-2006 10:59 AM

Those knobs are great looking. I really like the heavily knurled one. Props to anyone who does DIY stuff.
kyleblix 11-08-2006 06:56 PM

Wow, those look great
WRXDriftR 11-09-2006 01:04 AM

UPDATE!
Just added some pics to the first post but I hit the limit of 10 images/post. Here are some of my latest creation; the first perfectly spherical knob Ive made, using a radial jig.
this thing is a beauty!
[img]http://web.njit.edu/~cdm4/ShiftKnobs/Knob10-1.JPG[/img]
[img]http://web.njit.edu/~cdm4/ShiftKnobs/Knob10-2.JPG[/img]
[img]http://web.njit.edu/~cdm4/ShiftKnobs/Knob10-3.JPG[/img]
:D
:devil:
007WRX 11-09-2006 01:47 AM

i would go for one of those.
THE_MACHINIST 11-09-2006 12:59 PM

Nice job WRXdriftR.

As a Journeyman machinist of over 21 years and the GM of a machine shop may I offer a bit of advice for the "plastic" knobs. Use a Keensert of Helicoil (or other screw thread insert)for the threads. I'm sure your Grandad knows what these are, if not , just google them. Your threads will NOT be strong enough without them. I personally would go with the Keensert (heavy duty, locking). They cost about $5.00ea and you have to put a different thread in that the one for the shifter. So if the shifter is say an M10 thread you would probably (depending on the Keensert) drill and tap for an M12 or M15 thread. The internal thread of the insert will match the shifter.

You might also look to Castle metals for your material. They are "nationwide" and have good prices.

The Machinist
WRXDriftR 11-09-2006 01:04 PM

[quote=THE_MACHINIST;15929031]Nice job WRXdriftR.

As a Journeyman machinist of over 21 years and the GM of a machine shop may I offer a bit of advice for the "plastic" knobs. Use a Keensert of Helicoil (or other screw thread insert)for the threads. I'm sure your Grandad knows what these are, if not , just google them. Your threads will NOT be strong enough without them. I personally would go with the Keensert (heavy duty, locking). They cost about $5.00ea and you have to put a different thread in that the one for the shifter. So if the shifter is say an M10 thread you would probably (depending on the Keensert) drill and tap for an M12 or M15 thread. The internal thread of the insert will match the shifter.

You might also look to Castle metals for your material. They are "nationwide" and have good prices.

The Machinist[/quote]


Thanks for the advice, didnt think about that before. I am familiar with Helicoils, so i will look into it if I decide to go along with the poly-plastic materials
WRXDriftR 11-09-2006 11:59 PM

Check out my newest shift knob, its a knurled piston style one, its freakin awesome!
[img]http://web.njit.edu/~cdm4/ShiftKnobs/Knurled1.JPG[/img]
[img]http://web.njit.edu/~cdm4/ShiftKnobs/Knob11-1.JPG[/img]
007WRX 11-10-2006 01:22 AM

How many of these shift knobs are you selling?
G3Red04WRX 11-10-2006 07:13 AM

Freakin awesome is right. +1 to the super sweet knurled piston knob.
WRXDriftR 11-10-2006 10:03 AM

they were gifts to friends...
I cant sell them, no vendor status
InfamousDX 11-10-2006 12:32 PM

still looking great chris.
WRXDriftR 11-10-2006 04:27 PM

[quote=InfamousDX;15942135]still looking great chris.[/quote]

thanks Mike, PM me ideas for the style you want... promised you one of them like 2 months ago.
I just got several feet of 1.625" diameter 6061-T651, and a bunch of 2.75" dia of the same aluminum :D
007WRX 11-10-2006 07:21 PM

I will definatly hit you up for one, i am thinking the knurled one. Although you gotta wait till i get my rex ;) Looks good.

Ryan
Judge 11-10-2006 07:32 PM

I would go with keensert or timesert over a helicoil in a plastic part that sees as much action as a shifter does...just my preferance (I build custom motorcycles...used to own a shop but it got to be a job so I sold it and went back to work in a test lab).


I sent you a PM. Anyway killer work....
trauma11 11-10-2006 07:43 PM

With the fixth knob, is that the shortest you can make it?
WRXDriftR 11-10-2006 09:34 PM

[quote=trauma11;15947564]With the fixth knob, is that the shortest you can make it?[/quote]

No, the 0.8" shaft at the bottom was the request of the friend I made it for. I can make it just a sphere with nothing on the bottom, or with a boot lip.
Irish45 11-13-2006 12:15 AM

just finished this one and putting it in tomarow. Zebrawood :]

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/irishslappop/shifter.jpg[/IMG]
wrxdrftr2002 11-13-2006 01:21 AM

stuffs hot yo
Frozen Sti 11-13-2006 01:35 AM

Very nice! The grain looks wicked! I'm thinking of alot of different coloured stains to go with that wood, white, blue, red stains would be awesome!
Looks like you put some effort in the ergonomics.

Good jerb!
wkderf 11-13-2006 01:59 AM

nice lookin stuff man. Ive been following this thread since its inception. I was thinking of something you could make that i seem to be unable to find. a while back, someone was selling shift knob adapters. Theese adapters threaded onto the shifter & had the tab on the bottom to hold the boot in place. The idea was once u installed this adapter, you could then use any aftermarket shift knob like the 3 setscrew type. Im sure others here know what im referring to. hopefully someone will have pics of the previously availible adapter to aid in your design. I can draw a concept, but hopefully you understand what i mean.
WRXDriftR 11-13-2006 11:06 AM

[quote=wkderf;15966638]nice lookin stuff man. Ive been following this thread since its inception. I was thinking of something you could make that i seem to be unable to find. a while back, someone was selling shift knob adapters. Theese adapters threaded onto the shifter & had the tab on the bottom to hold the boot in place. The idea was once u installed this adapter, you could then use any aftermarket shift knob like the 3 setscrew type. Im sure others here know what im referring to. hopefully someone will have pics of the previously availible adapter to aid in your design. I can draw a concept, but hopefully you understand what i mean.[/quote]

This piece would slide inside the aftermarket shift knob? It would have to be narrow enough to in order for the allen set screws to hold onto it?

Is that wooden knob going to be on a WRX? I think it would be more appropriate on a Jag or Mercedes, but it has very good craftsmenship
f1vlad 11-13-2006 11:08 AM

This knob will be too cold in the winter :)
WRXDriftR 11-13-2006 11:20 AM

[quote=f1vlad;15969428]This knob will be too cold in the winter :)[/quote]

I wear gloves. most people do anyway, and its a nice excuse to get nice driving gloves if you dont already have them.

this problem is inherent with anything metal in cold weather though.
Irish45 11-13-2006 08:29 PM

[quote=Frozen Sti;15966502]Very nice! The grain looks wicked! I'm thinking of alot of different coloured stains to go with that wood, white, blue, red stains would be awesome!
Looks like you put some effort in the ergonomics.

Good jerb![/quote]
Thanks :). i worked it over for about 4 hours total to get the grip just like i wanted it. and oh does it feel good 1200 grit sand paper is the ****.
WRXDriftR 11-14-2006 03:17 AM

1200 grit feels like a piece of regular paper almost! :)
WRXDriftR 11-15-2006 12:07 AM

[IMG]http://web.njit.edu/%7Ecdm4/ShiftKnobs/Group-TaperedBall.JPG[/IMG]
[IMG]http://web.njit.edu/%7Ecdm4/ShiftKnobs/Knurled2.JPG[/IMG]
[IMG]http://web.njit.edu/%7Ecdm4/ShiftKnobs/Knob11-3.JPG[/IMG]

Couple more pics, made some knurled pieces today :D
Subie Gal 11-15-2006 12:31 AM

[QUOTE=WRXDriftR;10595025]Im not officially allowed to produce these things because im not a vendor, but I may just make some on my own and sell them on the classifieds.[/QUOTE]

you do that... and it will still be vending.

we're watching :)
WRXDriftR 11-15-2006 12:38 AM

[quote=Subie Gal;15993846]you do that... and it will still be vending.

we're watching :)[/quote]

point taken. proper changes have been made.
Zand 11-15-2006 03:10 PM

Sorry for the sorta derail, just a quick question...figured itd be better to ask in here since its about knobs than to make an entirely new thread :)

I love the look of the sti red stitching knob, but it only has the 6spd, and not sure if it'd even fit at all(don't really have an sti to compare to readily at hand). Has anyone done a modification of the red stitching sti knob for a wrx at all? So it'd fit/wouldn't be rice having an omg 6spd shifter in a 5spd car.
WRXDriftR 11-15-2006 11:41 PM

[quote=Zand;16001341]Sorry for the sorta derail, just a quick question...figured itd be better to ask in here since its about knobs than to make an entirely new thread :)

I love the look of the sti red stitching knob, but it only has the 6spd, and not sure if it'd even fit at all(don't really have an sti to compare to readily at hand). Has anyone done a modification of the red stitching sti knob for a wrx at all? So it'd fit/wouldn't be rice having an omg 6spd shifter in a 5spd car.[/quote]

It will fit, they have the same threading 12x1.25. It will just not have a lip to hold up the shift boot. And it wont really add another gear, so make sure someone else driving doesnt try shifting to 6th and hits reverse at 60mph ... :eek:
Zand 11-16-2006 05:21 AM

[QUOTE=WRXDriftR;16007877]It will fit, they have the same threading 12x1.25. It will just not have a lip to hold up the shift boot. And it wont really add another gear, so make sure someone else driving doesnt try shifting to 6th and hits reverse at 60mph ... :eek:[/QUOTE]

Hehe, I know it won't add another gear, not that bad ;) :lol: Just thinkin its kinda tacky to have a 6spd knob in a 5spd car, ricey if you will, was wonderin if anyones ever modified it at all :)
*edit* probably a stupid question but how hard is it to take the shift pattern "gems" off shifters, is it pretty much just like debadging?
03yellowworx 11-17-2006 09:14 PM

just out of curiosity are you running a qtp exhaust in that pic with that switch in the center console.... if so, rock on:cool:
nate49509 11-17-2006 10:42 PM

[QUOTE=Subie Gal;15993846]you do that... and it will still be vending.

we're watching :)[/QUOTE]


:rolleyes:
WRXDriftR 11-17-2006 11:40 PM

[quote=03yellowworx;16032875]just out of curiosity are you running a qtp exhaust in that pic with that switch in the center console.... if so, rock on:cool:[/quote]

Its for a cutout, not QTP though, BadlanzHPE instead. thanks
007WRX 11-17-2006 11:46 PM

How come you dont apply for a vendor account?
WRXDriftR 11-18-2006 01:50 AM

[quote=007WRX;16034040]How come you dont apply for a vendor account?[/quote]

In a couple of weeks I wont need to. Im working alongside a popular Vendor right now who will be distributing my shift knobs for me :D
I'll keep ya posted when it is finalized!
Turn in Concepts 11-19-2006 09:49 AM

[QUOTE=WRXDriftR;16034828]In a couple of weeks I wont need to. Im working alongside a popular Vendor right now who will be distributing my shift knobs for me :D
I'll keep ya posted when it is finalized![/QUOTE]

Check out the vendor announcement area.
WRXDriftR 11-19-2006 12:55 PM

heres a link for lazy people:
[URL="http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1140205"]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1140205[/URL]

I just saw this myself :)
o2sys 11-19-2006 06:21 PM

making any 6spd knobs?
WRXDriftR 11-19-2006 07:41 PM

[quote=o2sys;16046839]making any 6spd knobs?[/quote]

That is my next endeavor. I have the capability, must do tests on it after I develop a 5-speed inventory. They will be on the TiC site if I decide to do the 6-speeds
robbieshonda 11-19-2006 07:55 PM

Nice knobs and congrats. I made a few ball knobs using a radial jig on a lathe. Way to make something from nothing.
amiyourflava 11-20-2006 01:07 PM

idea
hey try burning the round knob with a torch to make it look like a rainbow burn. similiar to the tip on this exhaust

[IMG]http://www.superstyling.co.uk/ProdImages/SPC4.JPG[/IMG]
WRXDriftR 11-20-2006 04:12 PM

[quote=amiyourflava;16054987]hey try burning the round knob with a torch to make it look like a rainbow burn. similiar to the tip on this exhaust

[/quote]

That is titanium. Its not burned either. You pass an electric current through the metal to get the blue/purple/yellow colors to appear on the titanium surface.

I make these from aluminum so it wont work. Besides, titanium is like 300-400 dollars for a foot long rod :eek:
WRXDriftR 11-23-2006 05:50 PM

Heres my latest project at the completed stage!
Its got a three-stage curve at the top which was sanded smooth, 1.5" tall taper, 0.6" knurled section, and 2.6" tall... with a very nice center of gravity towards the top of it:

[img]http://web.njit.edu/~cdm4/ShiftKnobs/Knob13-1.JPG[/img]
[img]http://web.njit.edu/~cdm4/ShiftKnobs/Knob13-2.JPG[/img]
[img]http://web.njit.edu/~cdm4/ShiftKnobs/Knob13-3.JPG[/img]
G3Red04WRX 11-23-2006 08:51 PM

^ WOW :eek: That looks sweet! Can't wait to see your next creation.
amukaoen 11-23-2006 08:53 PM

did you know that the machine lathe is the only machine that can recreate itself?

as is... a lathe can completely make another lathe
WRXDriftR 11-23-2006 09:15 PM

[quote=G3Red04WRX;16093621]^ WOW :eek: That looks sweet! Can't wait to see your next creation.[/quote]

George, glad you like it! It's headed your way in a couple days


[quote=amukaoen;16093631]did you know that the machine lathe is the only machine that can recreate itself?

as is... a lathe can completely make another lathe[/quote]


I never thought of that, but...How does a lathe make gears though?? And it cant make the inner workings of the main chuck or the tracks :p
o2sys 11-23-2006 10:16 PM

that last knob looks nice keep up the good work!!! and start the 6-spds!
amukaoen 11-23-2006 10:52 PM

[QUOTE=WRXDriftR;16093787]George, glad you like it! It's headed your way in a couple days





I never thought of that, but...How does a lathe make gears though?? And it cant make the inner workings of the main chuck or the tracks :p[/QUOTE]

How DOESNT it make gears? Ive definatly seen gears being made with a lathe before. I didnt say it would be easy, I just know that it can be done, which is pretty awesome.
WRX_tougue_squirrel 11-23-2006 10:58 PM

sweet indeed
WRXDriftR 11-23-2006 11:02 PM

[quote=amukaoen;16094502]How DOESNT it make gears? Ive definatly seen gears being made with a lathe before. I didnt say it would be easy, I just know that it can be done, which is pretty awesome.[/quote]

Can you explain how that's done? I only know you can make the worm gear, but not the flat gears in the drivebox... thats a different type of manufacturing process im sure. :confused:
G3Red04WRX 11-24-2006 06:43 PM

Im still trying to figure out how you lathe the jaws... Theres nothing cylindrical about them whatsoever....
CryderSpeed 11-24-2006 09:41 PM

[QUOTE=G3Red04WRX;16100546]Im still trying to figure out how you lathe the jaws... Theres nothing cylindrical about them whatsoever....[/QUOTE]

My first thought as well...
amukaoen 11-25-2006 02:36 AM

shrug.

im no pro. all I remeber is hearing that it can be done, so thats what ill believe till I hear otherwise.

maybe it can, maybe it cant. who knows
G3Red04WRX 11-25-2006 10:45 AM

[QUOTE=amukaoen;16103524]shrug.

im no pro. all I remeber is hearing that it can be done, so thats what ill believe till I hear otherwise.

maybe it can, maybe it cant. who knows[/QUOTE]

It definitely can NOT reproduce every mechanical part of itself.

Im sure a good machinist can lathe himself some new hubs and tail stocks, but definitely is not going to be making himself a whole new lathe anytime soon.
WRXDriftR 11-26-2006 11:41 PM

How I spend Thanksgiving weekend :)
[img]http://web.njit.edu/~cdm4/ShiftKnobs/GroupTiC1.JPG[/img]

After I digested all the turkey and mashies.... i managed to finish these for TurnInConcepts

Hope everyone had a great weekend because its back to the normal grind in a few hours :(

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