Thứ Tư, 2 tháng 11, 2016

prosport gauges? part 15

ryan_west06 09-23-2008 03:12 PM

[quote=WRXEcho;23800880]So, is the logic behind that 3 amps per gauge? So, say I had 8 gauges, I would run 25 amp fuse?

They will all be prosport except the Autometer EGT (which I've had forever) and the AEM UEGO Wideband.

Also, my 52mm performance boost gauge registers like -10hg when the car is turned on, but not running. This apparently shouldn't be the case.

Thanks,
- Justin K.[/quote]


You would be drawing 18 amps so the gauge could retain memory. this is basicly nothing.
chanders 09-23-2008 03:17 PM

I sorted this out by myself. Below is a picture of the settings you need to use for the LC-1 programmer to get the 5V on the Prosport gauge to work using the Gray (or Green in some cases) wire.

[IMG]http://b.imagehost.org/0108/LC-1.jpg[/IMG]
ryan_west06 09-23-2008 03:20 PM

[quote=chanders;23808020]I sorted this out by myself. Below is a picture of the settings you need to use for the LC-1 programmer to get the 5V on the Prosport gauge to work using the Gray (or Green in some cases) wire.

[IMG]http://b.imagehost.org/0108/LC-1.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

I believe i talked to you on the phone about this! i thought you had these settings in the AFR
chanders 09-23-2008 04:52 PM

^^ The values you told me to use was 0.22 and 3.45 or something to that effect. The above does not equate to any of that. Even if I convert the AFR to lambda..
jackansi 09-23-2008 05:00 PM

Decided to try one more prosport guage, an electrical oil pressure. Sits 2 psi above 0 with power to the guages, engine off...

So I guess that is also the last prosport guage for me.

Edit: read the scale on the oil pressure guage wrong. It's actually 5 psi off 0.
txl146 09-23-2008 07:03 PM

Considering how many people are having problems with prosport, I am glad I went with Omori gauges instead.
Abnormal 09-24-2008 11:12 AM

ok, my two issues:

Oil Pressure Gauge:

Will do half the initial opening sequence, then sits at the maxed out position (turns on, backlight on, needle scans all the way to the right, and sits there).

Boost Gauge:

Does the whole scan (Electric w/ sender), then sits at the bottom. When I disconnect the sensor, it slowly rises to max. Reconnect the sensor, it sits at the bottom of the gauge (Max vacuum). Sending unit has filter installed 4" away from sender. Sending unit is also T'ed in to the BPV using supplied T-fitting.


Ready and willing to test with a multimeter! Everything is wired to the radio harness FYI.
stierzy34 09-24-2008 11:19 AM

[QUOTE=a13n0rma1;23818816]ok, my two issues:

Oil Pressure Gauge:

Will do half the initial opening sequence, then sits at the maxed out position (turns on, backlight on, needle scans all the way to the right, and sits there).

Boost Gauge:

Does the whole scan (Electric w/ sender), then sits at the bottom. When I disconnect the sensor, it slowly rises to max. Reconnect the sensor, it sits at the bottom of the gauge (Max vacuum). Sending unit has filter installed 4" away from sender. Sending unit is also T'ed in to the BPV using supplied T-fitting.


Ready and willing to test with a multimeter! Everything is wired to the radio harness FYI.[/QUOTE]


Sounds like your oil pressure gauge is not hooked up or the sender has gone bad. When there is no feed to the gauge, it will do exactly what you described.
Abnormal 09-24-2008 11:22 AM

[quote=stierzy34;23818910]Sounds like your oil pressure gauge is not hooked up or the sender has gone bad. When there is no feed to the gauge, it will do exactly what you described.[/quote]

Well, how I understand it, it will do the scan (full right, then full left) then start to slowly rise to full max. That's what it does with the sender

Where as in this case the opening scan doesn't complete. It stops at full max of the gauge and stays there.
ptirmal 09-24-2008 11:22 AM

[QUOTE=a13n0rma1;23818816]ok, my two issues:

Oil Pressure Gauge:

Will do half the initial opening sequence, then sits at the maxed out position (turns on, backlight on, needle scans all the way to the right, and sits there).

Boost Gauge:

Does the whole scan (Electric w/ sender), then sits at the bottom. When I disconnect the sensor, it slowly rises to max. Reconnect the sensor, it sits at the bottom of the gauge (Max vacuum). Sending unit has filter installed 4" away from sender. Sending unit is also T'ed in to the BPV using supplied T-fitting.


Ready and willing to test with a multimeter! Everything is wired to the radio harness FYI.[/QUOTE]

You know I have the exact same problem... EXACT! Boost gage used to work fine and then just stopped reading... I'm about to just through the stock clock back on and take off the gages.
Abnormal 09-24-2008 11:24 AM

[quote=ptirmal;23818958]You know I have the exact same problem... EXACT! Boost gage used to work fine and then just stopped reading... I'm about to just through the stock clock back on and take off the gages.[/quote]

I'm about one paycheck away from just getting DEFIs so I can also dim the gauges, too! :lol: That backlight is INTENSE when I'm driving at night (Instrument cluster gauge setup).

I have an EGT probe in the header already, but unless I can get these two working correctly I won't even touch that! :lol:
ryan_west06 09-25-2008 12:31 PM

hey guys,

We are here from 9-5 EST if anyone is having problems with there gauges. You just need to contact us when you are having a issue.

Ryan
Thaddy 09-26-2008 06:10 PM

[quote=ryan_west06;23834773]hey guys,

We are here from 9-5 EST if anyone is having problems with there gauges. You just need to contact us when you are having a issue.

Ryan[/quote]

Listen to the man!

I was having some issues today with the wiring of my Premium series gauges and my mechanical boost gauge. Ryan got me all sorted out in about 10 minutes.

I'm definitely a satisfied customer, I just wish I would have gotten the 60mm gauges:furious:
ryan_west06 09-26-2008 08:12 PM

:) :)
jackansi 09-26-2008 08:41 PM

I gave my account of their support. I wasn't happy.
ryan_west06 09-26-2008 08:52 PM

[quote=jackansi;23856207]I gave my account of their support. I wasn't happy.[/quote]

huh...?
sigurd 09-27-2008 10:11 AM

still loving my boost gauge. Had some pics taken and I thought this one was cool.

[IMG]http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5118/boostgaugetf9.jpg[/IMG]
onesixnin 09-27-2008 11:15 AM

That is pure sex. When I finish with my mod list, this will be one of my first purchases...only to match the STi
gtdeitypr2 09-27-2008 11:43 AM

Love my prosport guages. I even had ryan install mine for me! He knows his guages.
SubieGenius 09-27-2008 11:48 AM

Just bought the premium series for the oil pressure, ive been hearing good and bad things. Will be installing this week, may need help ryan...I'll let you people know how it goes.
ryan_west06 09-27-2008 06:31 PM

Im always here to help! Anyone, feel free to PM if you have any trouble :)
SubieGenius 09-27-2008 10:24 PM

Thanks ryan but no need. Finished the gauge istall using the alternator spot. Works and looks great!!! NO REGRET AT ALL!!!

Cheap, stylish, Functional=PERFECT!
azn0boi04 09-28-2008 03:08 AM

Me and my bro have prosport gauges... i have boost(mech), Oil pres (elec.), and water temp(elec.)....my bro has mech boost and elec oil pressure....

i got them off this site...
[url]http://www.deftracing.com/prosport_gauges/index.htm[/url]

i ordered on a wednesday and got them on friday.... REALLY FAST SHIPPING.... there located in cali...
wpwm020 09-29-2008 01:21 PM

I bought 5 premium gauges last February boost egt op ot and volt. Few days ago the op gauge started reading 130 psi so i bought another sender and i sent them the old sender because the gauges are still under warranty. SO today i start the car with the new sender and the op now reads 0 psi and i tried to disconect the wires in the back of the gauge and connect them again but that didn't do anything. This gauge is really starting to piss me off. Does anyone know anything else that i can try and lets assume that the gauge reads correctly wich is not possible because the car got only 18000 what are the signs of 0 psi overheating or what?
wpwm020 09-29-2008 04:16 PM

Well it turns out that the old sender was good so they are not going to refund the payment for the new one. I let the car idle for a while and the op gauge started to work. I drove the car around the block and everything was fine with the new sender. Than after a few minutes i had to go somewhere so i started the car and the op was reading 0 psi again. This time i disconnected everything. There are 3 wires that connect to the sender red, black, and white. The red wire was just hanging and was not connected because the person who assembled it didn't do a good job and the black wire was in the same shape but it was still barely connected to the black plug. I reconnected the red and black wire and now the gauge works fine. But it sucks because of the red wire not installed properly i had to get a new sender and went through all the trouble trying to figure out what was wrong but at least the gauge works now.
ryan_west06 09-29-2008 05:05 PM

Ya, gotta make sure the connections are secure and tight. :) glad you got it resolved.
007WRX 09-29-2008 06:47 PM

Ryan I need a new oil pressure wire. The one that connects from the gauge to the oil pressure sender, as mine melted.

PM me please when you get a chance.
ryan_west06 10-02-2008 09:38 AM

007wrx- pmd you
JDMbyBlood 10-07-2008 12:19 PM

Reading the first post, it was back in 06. How are the gauges holding up for you guys? I've always been a Autometer fan, but these gauges look 2 nice to pass up. (REALLY like how they match the gauge cluster.) Can you guys recommend a good dash pod that wont empty the wallet? It would be nice to find a dash gauge pod just as nice as the gauges that wont cost a mint.
Thanks....
jackansi 10-07-2008 12:46 PM

[QUOTE=ryan_west06;23856328]huh...?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=jackansi;23736366]Turns out it was the guage itself. I swapped out the guage only and I'm a happy camper. The sender seems to be fine.

[B]I'm not too thrilled with prosport's support, they seemed to be trying to put the blame on me, my wiring, shipping damage, etc. The last thing they seemed to want to admit was the guage being off from the start.

If I had followed their support instructions, I would have paid for shipping the sender back only to find it was the guage thats really off, then paying to ship that back. Only advice on this to prosport would be to assume both are bad and get them both in your hands for testing.[/B]

Not sure what happened, but there seem to be plenty of people who are happy with their guages.

I'm pegging it on a one-time deal, I still plan to purchase two or three in the future.

[IMG]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3066/2865190685_6b90180270_o.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

FWIW, the oil pressure guage is still off by ~4.0psi. Confirmed on a accurate (.02 psi) digital unit. Scale aside its just about the same linear distance my boost guage was off.

So for me it wasn't a one time deal, it was an all but one time deal.

Still, not terrible for the money. But, I won't be buying any of this brand again. With anything, YMMV
ryan_west06 10-07-2008 12:57 PM

[quote=jackansi;23982871]FWIW, the oil pressure guage is still off by ~4.0psi. Confirmed on a accurate (.02 psi) digital unit. Scale aside its just about the same linear distance my boost guage was off.

So for me it wasn't a one time deal, it was an all but one time deal.

Still, not terrible for the money. But, I won't be buying any of this brand again. With anything, YMMV[/quote]

Jack,

Sorry you had a bad experience with our product. :sadbanana:
iheartmysuby 10-07-2008 01:04 PM

[QUOTE=jackansi;23982871]FWIW, the oil pressure guage is still off by ~4.0psi. Confirmed on a accurate (.02 psi) digital unit. Scale aside its just about the same linear distance my boost guage was off.

So for me it wasn't a one time deal, it was an all but one time deal.

Still, not terrible for the money. But, I won't be buying any of this brand again. With anything, YMMV[/QUOTE]

pretty sure mine is off 4psi too. it will still help though, if theres a boost spike/ problem i guess
jackansi 10-07-2008 01:20 PM

Yeah, its not a life or death thing and definitely better to have than not in some cases. These fit that role.

Its just annoying to me that while I still have a better idea than some light in dash as to what is going on, I still can't fully trust what I'm seeing. At least its off in a linear way (the needle is off, but the movement is fairly accurate) and not 4psi at 35 and 10psi at 100.

I might try cracking open the oil pressure guage and just realigning the needle myself. Not a whole lot to lose on that gamble.. Not like they wouldn't try blaming me for that anyway, as far as warranty goes.
iheartmysuby 10-07-2008 01:28 PM

whats your vac say if you remember on your boost gauge?
im tuned at 19psi but it stops at 15
paintbing 10-07-2008 05:02 PM

I've got an issue going on with my EGT gauge/sender....

When I first installed it in December/January, it worked for about a month. Then out of nowhere, it would wig out randomly... like when I adjusted any elec item (Radio, headlights, brakes) the reading would fall a little. I checked and rechecked all my wiring, and nothing was crossed... I even have the Oil pressure gauge and it was working perfectly the entire time... no issues.

Well after a week, it fixed itself somehow. Well now the problem has come back. But now it will jump between 0 EGT and 2400 (Max) EGT. If I drive for over 20 miles, it "might" start to read differently. I pulled the sender and it seems to look okay... Can I return just the sender to be tested, or do I have to send the gauge as well?
jackansi 10-07-2008 05:11 PM

Now that sounds like a loose wire.

Did you solder everything or use crimp? Always solder, just don't forget to slide on your heatshrink BEFORE you solder it together.

If you did solder, check the points you tied into ground and power and make sure they are still secure and corrosion free.

If they are fine, then check your sender's wire, the entire length of it, for any melted or worn spots.
paintbing 10-07-2008 05:28 PM

[QUOTE=jackansi;23987227]Now that sounds like a loose wire.

Did you solder everything or use crimp? Always solder, just don't forget to slide on your heatshrink BEFORE you solder it together.

If you did solder, check the points you tied into ground and power and make sure they are still secure and corrosion free.

If they are fine, then check your sender's wire, the entire length of it, for any melted or worn spots.[/QUOTE]

That's what I thought too(loose wire), but when I first had the issue in February, all my wiring was perfect (soldered and heat shrink). The sender was good too. It just somehow fixed itself.

I can recheck my wiring, but I highly doubt it's my wiring as the symptoms restarted slow, and progressively got worse (over a week).
Also if it was the wiring, wouldn't I have the same irratic behavior from my other gauge as well? I soldered both gauges into one set of wiring, and then used the one set of wiring and tied it into the clock wires. I really hate electrical bugs, so that is why I solder everything, cause you never know if a wire-nut/crimp is really doing the job or not.
ryan_west06 10-07-2008 05:45 PM

If the gauges neddle is jumping it seems that the sender wires are not getting full contact, can you confirm the wires going to the probe are very secure??
JDMbyBlood 10-07-2008 05:46 PM

Have any of you looked at a Prosport gauge and a Glowshift gauge side by side? I was comparing the 2 today and they look a lot alike except for the name thats on the face of the gauge. The face layout looks very much alike between all the gauges. Do you think maybe the 2 gauges are manufactured by the same company with different names? I could be wrong, but Im shopping around for gauges and just happen to have the 2 brands of gauges next to each other and damn do they look alike.:huh: Take a look and tell me what you think??
[U][COLOR=#800080][URL]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/02-07-SUBARU-WRX-STI-TRIPLE-DASH-POD-3-BLK-7-GAUGES_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1156Q7c39Q3a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem260296052907QQitemZ260296052907[/URL][/COLOR][/U]

[U][COLOR=#800080][URL]http://prosportgauges.com/amber-white-60mm-electrical-boost-gauge.aspx[/URL][/COLOR][/U]
IIdiceII 10-07-2008 05:48 PM

the look similar to me but not exactly the same.
ryan_west06 10-07-2008 08:25 PM

HAHA they do look like ours! weird
Thaddy 10-07-2008 10:13 PM

What do you expect? It's sold on ebay.
paintbing 10-07-2008 10:59 PM

Prosport gauges actually make almost all of the aftermarget gauges out there with the exception of Defi and AutoMeter.


[QUOTE=ryan_west06;23987692]If the gauges neddle is jumping it seems that the sender wires are not getting full contact, can you confirm the wires going to the probe are very secure??[/QUOTE]

Yes, it's getting full contact. Today it did the opening sweep, then went to 2400 as if there was no sender attached, but then it slowly dropped to 2000 and then it dropped to zero.. If I wasn't getting a good connection, it would have stayed at 2400 (as if no sender was attached).

ALSO, once the car was heated up, I parked it and turned the car off. I then turned the key to "on" and the gauge did the full sweep, then jumped to 1200 and was slowly moving towards 2400 (car was off). It was almost like as the probe cooled off, it was sending the opposite signal. Any ideas? I have a message into ProSport already. Hopefully Glenn will contact me tomorrow.
jackansi 10-09-2008 06:50 PM

This sucks. After days of just getting in the car and starting it right up while I was reflashing the ecu I noticed the oil pressure guage...

Mind you at this point its been about 7 hours since I've started the car last.

[IMG]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3164/2928086410_818f92131c_o.jpg[/IMG]

Prosport sucks...

Its atleast within ~4 psi while its running... But this isn't much better than an idiot light as far as a pressure guage goes..

Prosport can :diaf:
ryan_west06 10-09-2008 08:36 PM

[quote=jackansi;24018542]This sucks. After days of just getting in the car and starting it right up while I was reflashing the ecu I noticed the oil pressure guage...

Mind you at this point its been about 7 hours since I've started the car last.

[IMG]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3164/2928086410_818f92131c_o.jpg[/IMG]

Prosport sucks...

Its atleast within ~4 psi while its running... But this isn't much better than an idiot light as far as a pressure guage goes..

Prosport can :diaf:[/quote]


Wow man, this is pretty harsh! i dont know how many times ive put our phone number up on here. Your welcome to call and i can help you over the phone. This goes for ANYONE! we back our gauges with a full one year warranty. Im only asking that you dont sit here and say we suck and prosport can :diaf:, if your not coming to us for help.

once again, our number is 727-572-9011. Please call and ask for me (Ryan)
ryan_west06 10-09-2008 08:38 PM

[quote=paintbing;23991687]Prosport gauges actually make almost all of the aftermarget gauges out there with the exception of Defi and AutoMeter.




Yes, it's getting full contact. Today it did the opening sweep, then went to 2400 as if there was no sender attached, but then it slowly dropped to 2000 and then it dropped to zero.. If I wasn't getting a good connection, it would have stayed at 2400 (as if no sender was attached).

ALSO, once the car was heated up, I parked it and turned the car off. I then turned the key to "on" and the gauge did the full sweep, then jumped to 1200 and was slowly moving towards 2400 (car was off). It was almost like as the probe cooled off, it was sending the opposite signal. Any ideas? I have a message into ProSport already. Hopefully Glenn will contact me tomorrow.[/quote]


This sounds like the sender wires arent secure. Check the back of the gauge and see if the pigtail and nice and secure. If the needle rises slowly after the opening ceremony this means there is a open circut. ie, the probe isnt connected.

Ryan
iheartmysuby 10-09-2008 09:00 PM

whats the normal oil press supposed to read on the gauge?
ryan_west06 10-09-2008 10:39 PM

at idle it should be 30 psi, and at wot it should be 90-100 psi
paintbing 10-09-2008 10:46 PM

[QUOTE=ryan_west06;24019835]This sounds like the sender wires arent secure. Check the back of the gauge and see if the pigtail and nice and secure. If the needle rises slowly after the opening ceremony this means there is a open circut. ie, the probe isnt connected.

Ryan[/QUOTE]

Hey Ryan, I've been emailing you today already. Again everything is connected properly. I've even checked all the signals from the other 4 wires (Switch, power, neutral, acc) They are all checking out with 0 ohms resistance between the "pigtail" (connection to the guage) and where I've soldered them to my clock. I also checked for and shorts, and there were none. I'm fairly confident that the guage is somehow toast, and not the sender or pigtail.
96accord 10-10-2008 07:53 AM

I love my Prosport Boost Gauge!! :banana:
Cortez 10-18-2008 10:24 PM

i have a 3 pillar setup with elect. boost, Oil temp and EGT in the blue premiums, ive had them in for about 5 months now and really like them as well, instructions for install were pretty basic and took some searching on here to find the oil gallery plug for the Oil temp, but performance of them is great. they are slightly hard to read in really bright sunlingt price but they are nice gauges overall for the price
atlblu 10-19-2008 09:13 AM

Prosport Gauges
Ryan at prosport totally stands behind the product. Had turbo gauge, sender went bad at 9 months. he spent time on the phone to help diagnose the problem, sent out a replacement warranty part and solved the problem.
evohuntinwrx 10-19-2008 09:59 AM

Ya Prosport has one of the best customer service records IMHO, they right wrongs efficiently!
gaveup 10-19-2008 12:04 PM

Maybe I should call prosport.

The mechanical boost guage I bought from machv NEVER was accurate. Now I notice anything above 20psi, the gauge leaks. Not the connections in the back...but the guage.
ryan_west06 10-19-2008 05:00 PM

Thanks guys, im always here to help no matter what.

Gaveup~ please call me at 727-572-9011 so i can help you over the phone.

Ryan
dwmoss_68 10-19-2008 08:29 PM

ryan,

i just picked up a used prosport electric boost gauge (green/white) and i'm wondering about wiring of the sending unit.

I have three wires coming from the sending unit.. (white, red and black) and need to know what they need to be wired too...

Your faq on the prosport website has the wiring for the gauge but not the sender
Black �Ground
Red - 12v ign. power-meaning power when the ignition is on.
White- 12v ign. power
Orange-Headlight switch.
Green - Sender

thanks in advance...
(i actually have a prosport mech. boost gauge for my 02 wrx, this electric one is going into our 07 FXT)

dm
ryan_west06 10-19-2008 10:35 PM

[quote=dwmoss_68;24136666]ryan,

i just picked up a used prosport electric boost gauge (green/white) and i'm wondering about wiring of the sending unit.

I have three wires coming from the sending unit.. (white, red and black) and need to know what they need to be wired too...

Your faq on the prosport website has the wiring for the gauge but not the sender
Black �Ground
Red - 12v ign. power-meaning power when the ignition is on.
White- 12v ign. power
Orange-Headlight switch.
Green - Sender

thanks in advance...
(i actually have a prosport mech. boost gauge for my 02 wrx, this electric one is going into our 07 FXT)

dm[/quote]

The red wire:12v
The white: Green wire
Black:Ground
02BugI 10-19-2008 10:47 PM

2 1/2 months on my electric boost gauge. Still operates as it should. KOEO shows 0 psi, peak boost is right where stock levels should be, so it's staying accurate. I'm still a happy customer.
ryan_west06 10-19-2008 10:50 PM

[quote=02BugI;24138156]2 1/2 months on my electric boost gauge. Still operates as it should. KOEO shows 0 psi, peak boost is right where stock levels should be, so it's staying accurate. I'm still a happy customer.[/quote]

:D glad your happy
Jubert69 10-19-2008 10:55 PM

I am using 3 premium electric gauges from prosport, no problems whatsoever. When I had to do some rewiring, I forgot my sheets, and I called them up, got an email(offered to fax, but I don't have one), within 5 minutes.

Great products, great support.

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