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prosport gauges part 3

o2sys 03-21-2007 10:43 AM

yea same issues here, the red really seems to match the cluster better but only does it as warning
Fred Fredburger 03-21-2007 10:56 AM

I don't think the gauges will warn you of any impending doom [i]at all[/i].

My pressure gauge is pegged all the time (unless the car is warm and I've got the clutch in and revs @ 750) and it's definitely not warning me. :)

Is it possible my ground is too long? I spliced the grounds for the oil senders together right by the sandwich adapter, but then I run the ground all the way back to the cabin (where my clock is) before I actually ground it. Is it possible there's too much resistance along the way and it's skewing the results?

Anyone know how the temp and pressure senders work? Does the resistance increase or decrease with a higher temp? With a higher pressure?
o2sys 03-21-2007 11:14 AM

do you have the premiums?
Mikie13 03-21-2007 12:15 PM

[quote=Fred Fredburger;17430712]I wired them for amber all the time. I saw that if you don't hook up either illumination lead it will be red, but I think the red was rather dim so during the day it would be [I]very[/I] tough to read.

With my brief testing there was no way to get it to change from a "wired" color (white/amber) back to the "unwired" color (red). For example, when I have it wired for amber, if I were to disconnect the illumination lead while the gauge was on it would stay amber rather than going red. It appears the only time the gauge will go red is on startup, you can't get it to go red after the gauge is on.[/quote]

The red was a very cool color. I have a Electric boost and Oil Pressure in my STI. Ironically, the Red and the Amber both match the dash of an STI. I saw the red was too dim in the day, so I changed to amber. Its only a little dim during direct light...pics coming in a bit...
Mikie13 03-21-2007 12:23 PM

[IMG]http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r6/Mikie13/STIInterior01.jpg[/IMG]
Here they are...I love em...this gauge pod is crappy...its a cheap ebay one.

I just changed it out with an Autometer A Pillar Pod and it looks phenomenal...pretty much perfect fit over the stock piece with a little shimmying and wiggling...so now I'm happy with it :)

...and for the record, I really do like how the hoods look while on the pod too
blkwagon 03-21-2007 12:48 PM

i've had the mech boost and electric oil pressure now for a long while now. When i got them there was no threds up about them...it is nice to see people also found them. The only question i have is i've had an electric boost gauge sitting around waiting for me to install it but i am wondering where the little pill restrictior thing should go? It says in the pcv line, but that looks to big? any help would be apperrciated or if i am posting in the wrong spot please redirect me.
Fred Fredburger 03-21-2007 12:56 PM

[quote=o2sys;17432185]do you have the premiums?[/quote]
I didn't know there were premiums... I'll have to check on their site. The ones I got were around $30-45 each (little less than $200 for the set of 5).
Fred Fredburger 03-21-2007 12:58 PM

[quote=blkwagon;17433415]i've had the mech boost and electric oil pressure now for a long while now. When i got them there was no threds up about them...it is nice to see people also found them. The only question i have is i've had an electric boost gauge sitting around waiting for me to install it but i am wondering where the little pill restrictior thing should go? It says in the pcv line, but that looks to big? any help would be apperrciated or if i am posting in the wrong spot please redirect me.[/quote]
I think I got a little inline air filter with my boost gauge. I don't recall a restrictor. I had the Subaru boost gauge on my car originally so I simply put the boost sender (and the filter) under the dash, plugging it into the boost hose from the engine bay. I had to use a T since I've got a turbo timer, too.
blkwagon 03-21-2007 01:37 PM

[QUOTE=Fred Fredburger;17433566]I think I got a little inline air filter with my boost gauge. I don't recall a restrictor. I had the Subaru boost gauge on my car originally so I simply put the boost sender (and the filter) under the dash, plugging it into the boost hose from the engine bay. I had to use a T since I've got a turbo timer, too.[/QUOTE]

yeah i guess it is like a filter. Now i figured it out thanks.
skate enjoi 03-21-2007 03:13 PM

can anyone else post up pictures of the gauges in amber and red? and how they match the sti cluster?
Fred Fredburger 03-21-2007 03:24 PM

I'll take some pics when I get home of mine.

I've got my EGT and Boost gauges in the [url=http://www.oakos.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=355&Product_Code=AUT20015&Category_Code=3400][u]Autometer Instrument Cluster Bezel[/u][/url] and the Oil Temp, Oil Pressure and Water Temp in the [url=http://www.scoobytuner.com/products/?&productID=40][u]ScoobyTuner Custom Gauge Pod[/u][/url].
skate enjoi 03-21-2007 05:07 PM

cool cant wait... are they 60mm or 52?
Ultimate Collision Center 03-21-2007 05:10 PM

I am getting in a ton of the 52mm green peak series, anyone who wants to be the first to have the first batch please pm me...they are sweet looking...
Fred Fredburger 03-21-2007 05:29 PM

Mine are the 52mm. I don't know about 60mm since I'm more of a "stock look" kind of guy.
Fred Fredburger 03-21-2007 07:59 PM

Here are some pics of my setup. Sorry for the fuzziness, it was at 1/8 second without the flash.

I don't have the water temp gauge hooked up yet. I just ordered a 38mm adapter for the top radiator hose, but I may look at plumbing the gauge into a heater hose, since the heater hoses are flowing water all the time (as opposed to when the thermostat is open). Thoughts?

Also, take note of the [COLOR="Red"][B][I]RED[/I][/B][/COLOR] Blitz DCII. I swapped the colors so the turbo timer is red all the time (except for warn mode when it's green). Thread [thread=818206][u]here[/u][/thread].

Click on the thumbnail for larger image.

[B]Headlights off[/B]
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[B]Headlights on, dash only[/B]
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[B]Headlights on, showing Tuner in glovebox[/B]
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skate enjoi 03-21-2007 08:46 PM

wow that looks great! now i know for sure i will be ordering them... i just wasnt sure about them matching
Fred Fredburger 03-21-2007 10:23 PM

Do you have an STi dash in your WRX?
skate enjoi 03-21-2007 10:57 PM

yessir!
Fred Fredburger 03-21-2007 10:59 PM

Cool. For the price, it's definitely a great way to go. The one problem is that in daylight (especially in direct sunlight) the gauges are [i]really[/i] washed out. I don't know if the MadDad gauges (a little more reasonably priced) or if the Defi gauges are better.
skate enjoi 03-21-2007 11:13 PM

dont they come with a hood or whatever? does that help at all with the sunlight problem?
Ultimate Collision Center 03-21-2007 11:58 PM

the visor helps a bit but the blue the amber and the green in day are harder to see, the whites pretty clear though
WRblueX_Guy 03-22-2007 12:26 AM

[QUOTE=Fred Fredburger;17439289]Here are some pics of my setup. Sorry for the fuzziness, it was at 1/8 second without the flash.
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From the pictures, those seem to match the STi cluster pretty well.

Are those on the Amber or Red setting? You say the red is too dim in the day, do you know how it looks at night? Would it be possible to run white with the headlights off, and red with the headlights on? Or can you only do that with white and amber?
WRblueX_Guy 03-22-2007 12:29 AM

[QUOTE=ULTIMATE CC;17441930]the visor helps a bit but the blue the amber and the green in day are harder to see, the whites pretty clear though[/QUOTE]

So the white visability it good in the day? I mainly want to get gauges so I can keep an eye on things while I'm at the track, but it would be pointless if I couldn't even see them while I'm on the track :lol:
WRblueX_Guy 03-22-2007 12:46 AM

[QUOTE=evohuntinwrx;17410994]just got mine in today. They look HAWT.

[IMG]http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n136/Stea1thv/DSC02900.jpg[/IMG]

PROSPORT has the most amazing customer service. Now im just waiting for my a-pillar pods to get them installed. I hope im as pleased with thier performance as I am thier customer service..[/QUOTE]

Is that just the box, or did you really get metric gauges? If so, are they the Premium gauges and where did you get them?
Ultimate Collision Center 03-22-2007 09:25 AM

[QUOTE=WRblueX_Guy;17442203]So the white visability it good in the day? I mainly want to get gauges so I can keep an eye on things while I'm at the track, but it would be pointless if I couldn't even see them while I'm on the track :lol:[/QUOTE]

yea the white is very good in the day, thats why they have both white and a color except for the blue gauge...
Fred Fredburger 03-22-2007 09:27 AM

[quote=ULTIMATE CC;17444311]yea the white is very good in the day, thats why they have both white and a color except for the blue gauge...[/quote]
Good to hear! I'll need to give that a shot. I guess having amber (during the day) to match the dash doesn't matter if I can't read the gauge. :p I'll need to give that a shot!
Fred Fredburger 03-22-2007 09:29 AM

[quote=WRblueX_Guy;17442353]Is that just the box, or did you really get metric gauges? If so, are they the Premium gauges and where did you get them?[/quote]
If I recall, the boxes are very generic (same boxes for [i]all[/i] gauges). There is a panel on the side opposite the window that tells what the gauge is and what unit of measure.

But that's not to say that [B]evohuntinwrx[/B] didn't get metric gauges.
Ultimate Collision Center 03-22-2007 11:20 AM

yea those are the normal boxes, they are all like that for the most part, but they aren't metric...
skate enjoi 03-22-2007 03:59 PM

i just sent the payment for 60mm amber egt and boost... let me know when you send them out!
Ultimate Collision Center 03-22-2007 04:56 PM

will do...
WRblueX_Guy 03-23-2007 03:26 AM

[QUOTE=ULTIMATE CC;17444311]yea the white is very good in the day, thats why they have both white and a color except for the blue gauge...[/QUOTE]
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Fred Fredburger;17444355]If I recall, the boxes are very generic (same boxes for [i]all[/i] gauges). There is a panel on the side opposite the window that tells what the gauge is and what unit of measure.

But that's not to say that [B]evohuntinwrx[/B] didn't get metric gauges.[/QUOTE]
Ahh, I see.

Were those gauges on the red or amber setting in the pictures you posted? Can you do white in the day and red and night, or is it only red if you choose red?
skate enjoi 03-23-2007 08:09 AM

[QUOTE=WRblueX_Guy;17456450]
Were those gauges on the red or amber setting in the pictures you posted? Can you do white in the day and red and night, or is it only red if you choose red?[/QUOTE]


i was wondering the same thing...
Fred Fredburger 03-23-2007 08:16 AM

[quote=WRblueX_Guy;17456450]Were those gauges on the red or amber setting in the pictures you posted? Can you do white in the day and red and night, or is it only red if you choose red?[/quote]
My gauges are wired for amber all the time. I took the pictures with the lights on and lights off to try to show the brightness of the gauges vs. brightness of the dash.

You can't go from white or amber to red without powering off the gauges. On the gauges, there are two leads for illumination, white and orange. You get the deep red illumination by not connecting either of the illumination leads at power-up. Once you apply power to either of the illumination leads, you will not be able to go red unless you power off the gauge, even if you remove power from the illumination leads.
eggeegg 03-23-2007 01:50 PM

i leave my headlights on the on position all the time. when i had the white for day/green for night setup, i couldn't switch to white (turning off headlights) after starting the car. it stayed green. they only way i can switch back and forth between white and green is if i start the car with the headlights in the off position. is this normal? for this reason, i set it up so that it's red in the ACC (engine off) position and green all other times when the engine is on.
Fred Fredburger 03-23-2007 01:57 PM

[quote=eggeegg;17461008]when i had the white for day/green for night setup, i couldn't switch to white (turning off headlights) after starting the car. it stayed green. they only way i can switch back and forth between white and green is if i start the car with the headlights in the off position. is this normal?[/quote]

I hope it's not normal. I'm going to try white-day/amber-night this weekend and it's gonna suck if it doesn't go back to white when you turn the lights off. I understand that you're generally not going to turn your headlights off during normal driving, but it seems that if you wire the gauges for a particular color for "day time," that means when the lights are off [i]all[/i] the time, not just before you turn your lights on.
makeitlookeasy 03-23-2007 10:41 PM

I've had my gauges for about 3 months now and the egt is now acting strange, it was reading 1800 while I was cruising at 30 mph and it started bounce around. :eek: I need to contact them to get a replacement now.Other than that they are pretty good gauges so far.
turtl631 03-23-2007 11:08 PM

So, is the consensus that the oil pressure gauge is no good? I've seen a few mentions of failures on here. I was hoping to pick one up for my 240SX just so I have something to monitor it, not too keen on shelling out $150+ for a gauge that isn't something I'll be looking at very often.
G3Red04WRX 03-23-2007 11:10 PM

[QUOTE=makeitlookeasy;17466578]I've had my gauges for about 3 months now and the egt is now acting strange, it was reading 1800 while I was cruising at 30 mph and it started bounce around. :eek: I need to contact them to get a replacement now.Other than that they are pretty good gauges so far.[/QUOTE]

Exact same thing happened to me after 2 months of use. Its a fubbed up sensor. Just call them up and let them know. They will ship you a new sensor (different brand, much more reinforced wiring, and better probe) and hold your credit card info as deposit until you send the faulty one back. My new one works better than the old one ever did. The needle is much more accurate and smooth now and a lot less "choppy" steeping around instead of sweeping like a needle should.
G3Red04WRX 03-23-2007 11:13 PM

[QUOTE=turtl631;17466801]So, is the consensus that the oil pressure gauge is no good? I've seen a few mentions of failures on here. I was hoping to pick one up for my 240SX just so I have something to monitor it, not too keen on shelling out $150+ for a gauge that isn't something I'll be looking at very often.[/QUOTE]

My oil pressure gauge seems to be just fine for reading. It doesnt seem to be very accurate until everything has gotten up to temp, but after 5-10 minutes of driving, it reads low 20's at idle, and varies based on my speed and gear. Id say Prosport is probably the best bang for buck gauge out there right now. Especially after getting a bad EGT and having a replacement in 2 days, back up and running again another day later, and i even reused the packaging they sent the new one in to send it back to them. Total cost on my part was $1.11 for the return shipping of the bad sensor. I am VERY pleased with Prosport product AND customer service.
Ultimate Collision Center 03-23-2007 11:15 PM

yea the old style egt sensors were junk but the new ones are money :)...much better...
Fred Fredburger 03-24-2007 11:29 AM

I ended up getting a new EGT sensor since the little bushing around the sensor wouldn't budge on my first one (got it around October). I got the new one around January and it looked identical. I wonder if it's an "old style" or a "new style" sensor.

Still having weirdness with my oil pressure/temp... I'm gonna need to check the ground and make sure it's not too long (grounding the sensors at the gauges).
o2sys 03-24-2007 01:01 PM

ok mine is busted and i have no idea how. One day i turn it on, it does the sweep, the the needle pegs to 26PSI and keeps flashing different colors....had it for about 1 week....
4sevens 03-24-2007 01:45 PM

[quote=o2sys;17470162]ok mine is busted and i have no idea how. One day i turn it on, it does the sweep, the the needle pegs to 26PSI and keeps flashing different colors....had it for about 1 week....[/quote]

Mine does that too after the cars been running for 40 minutes or more.
Recently I found out that if I left the keys in the ignition on ACC
for that long it does the same thing. :(

Let me know if you figure it out.
Ultimate Collision Center 03-27-2007 11:01 AM

[IMG]http://www.ultimate-cc.com/images/Prosport/prosportAW003.jpg[/IMG]
R6_rider 03-27-2007 07:58 PM

i just got mine today and my boost is off or something! everyone tells me it should be idleing at around -20 and it bairly goes above the 0 mark on full throghtle none the less anyone have any answers? should i use the air filter it seems to be realy hard to blow through.
eggeegg 03-27-2007 08:04 PM

i had the same feeling about the air filter but put it in there just because the directions told me to. the gauge was pretty accurate in my car. what does your gauge read when in idle? what gear are you in with full throttle? is it a mechanical or electrical gauge?
R6_rider 03-27-2007 08:05 PM

its electrical idle is about 15 and full throghtle from 1st to 3rd
R6_rider 03-27-2007 08:11 PM

also does the lenght of the vacume line matter? its about 4.5 feet long?
jeeps1998 03-27-2007 08:32 PM

I contacted customer service about the using a different diameter vacum tube because I already had one ran through my firewall and they told me that the diameter of the hose doesn't matter, so I would say no the length doesn't matter.
WRblueX_Guy 03-27-2007 09:19 PM

I'm getting a little worried. In the past several pages it seems like a lot of people have had problems with their gauges breaking or malfunctioning. I'm sure Prosport has great customer service and replaces the gauges, sensors, etc, but it just seems like an inconvenience. Especially if you track your car, where monitoring your engine is very crucial, you want your gauges to be reliable.

I was planning on ordering 4 Prosport gauges pretty soon, but I'm not sure now. I might still get them.
R6_rider 03-27-2007 09:26 PM

diameter and length are 2 completely diffrent things
wilrock 03-27-2007 09:49 PM

lol
[QUOTE=ULTIMATE CC;17501702][IMG]http://www.ultimate-cc.com/images/Prosport/prosportAW003.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]


Wow that gauge is totally lit, I can't really see the middle during the day. But For 50 bucks, I'm a happy customer.
R6_rider 03-27-2007 10:17 PM

anyone know of a fix for -15 (instead of -20) on my boost gauge and not going past 0 on full throtle. im going to try to shorten the tube length tommorow and see where that gets me.
bmms8 03-28-2007 01:49 AM

[QUOTE=R6_rider;17508941]anyone know of a fix for -15 (instead of -20) on my boost gauge and not going past 0 on full throtle. im going to try to shorten the tube length tommorow and see where that gets me.[/QUOTE]

there has to be a leak in the pipe, either in your vacuum or in your line from your T to your gauge. make sure its on a tight fit onto your gauge also. if you want, disconnect it from the T and suck and blow into the line and see if it moves dramatically or not. i think if you suck on it, it should go into boost but i am not to sure. goodluck and take care.
R6_rider 03-28-2007 07:59 AM

it acts the same. i went our and bought difftrent black vacuum line. i dont know if that makes a diffrence but im still a little ****ty. Also i have a oil temp and oil pressure which arnt hooked up to sensors but are wired in the oil temp falls back down after the start up but the oil pressure doesnt. any advice?
Cation 03-28-2007 08:34 AM

[QUOTE=R6_rider;17512142]it acts the same. i went our and bought difftrent black vacuum line. i dont know if that makes a diffrence but im still a little ****ty. Also i have a oil temp and oil pressure which arnt hooked up to sensors but are wired in the oil temp falls back down after the start up but the oil pressure doesnt. any advice?[/QUOTE]

Yes, disconnect both of them until you have the sensors hooked up. I'm in the same boat as you, don't run power to them until they are hooked up properly.
sluflyer06 03-28-2007 10:54 AM

does anyone know if you have to use the included t-fitting with gauge? I already have a boost gauge so my manifold is already t'd, i know their's has a regulator or something in it, but to tell you the truth their T is 2 large for their vacuum line and it doesn't really fit on so i'd rather use my smaller t.
o2sys 03-28-2007 11:33 AM

[QUOTE=sluflyer06;17513922]does anyone know if you have to use the included t-fitting with gauge? I already have a boost gauge so my manifold is already t'd, i know their's has a regulator or something in it, but to tell you the truth their T is 2 large for their vacuum line and it doesn't really fit on so i'd rather use my smaller t.[/QUOTE]

you can use any T fitting you'd like, just make sure you use the shiny metal "air filter" they supply before you connect it to the boost sensor sending unit.

Also i ended up fixing my boost gauge, the gauge itself seems very sensitive to the connections on the back...slight movement the gauge either resets or shows an open circuit warning.
eggeegg 03-28-2007 12:36 PM

I used a T from Kragen. and yes, you should use the air filter. does your tube go through the grommit? Mine doesn't. just the wires from the sensor.

I've asked this before but nobody answered but it's a pretty straight forward question. Is scenario 2 below normal for white/green setup?

Scenario 1: engine is off. headlights are on OFF position. start the car. the gauge displays white. turn the headlights ON while the engine is on. gauge displays green. turn headlights off and they turn white again. this is how it's supposed to work. However...

Scenario 2: engine is off. headlights are on ON position. start the car. the gauge displays green. turn the headlights OFF while the engine is on. gauge remains green. turn headlights on, still green.
infinite012 03-28-2007 12:42 PM

it should turn back to white when you turn your headlights off regardless of how it started. you wired it incorrectly.

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