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Rice or not? part 1

Matth3w 08-30-2005 07:48 PM

Rice or not?
Well on another message board, people are discussing and telling me my WRX is rice, because I have the STi fog covers (with writing) and front splitters.

They are saying im trying to "look" like something im not. My argument is two fold. one, im not trying to do that, i just wanted something to change the front of the car without having some low or problematic front lip, and i like the look of the STi. second, STi is a company much like TRD, Nismo, Mazdaspeed, etc IIRC...so its not like im stealing parts etc from the WRX STi and trying to pass my car off as one. It's not rebadged nor do i tell people it is one.

For some reason the main person arguing feels that if its a performance part, that is different (from what i gather about his logic)...example, the STi fog covers are rice, but say, having STi exhaust system isnt.

What is your opinion? ARe you a poser/rice for having STi appearance parts, or are you just supporting or sporting stuff from a performance/parts company? this includes i gues by his logic of non performance related parts, STi skirts, wheels, wing, splitters, fog covers, seats, etc...

for referrance here is a pic of my car:
[IMG]http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/3407/img04071nq.jpg[/IMG]
kaisersouse 08-30-2005 08:08 PM

not rice mainly because an STi IS a WRX (or so ive come to understand). IMHO anyways...

isnt STi a subdivision of subaru/FHI anyhow? people correct me if im wrong (which i usually am)
Matth3w 08-30-2005 08:09 PM

thats my understanding...just like Nismo, TRD, Mazdaspeed, etc.
kero 08-30-2005 08:15 PM

Okay noob here, rice? I thought this referred to rice burners like honda and toyotas that were modded up??
KingOfSiam 08-30-2005 08:18 PM

^^^

No. You're correct. The other board is full of morons.
Hondaslayer 08-30-2005 08:18 PM

Foglamp cover stickers = rice (When combined with the splitters etc... to make the front end look like an STi)

Foglamp covers with no stickers, with splitters = not rice.

STi swap= I'll allow it :)

Nice wheels BTW.
Matth3w 08-30-2005 08:19 PM

while id like this to not turn into a discussion on the definition of rice, this is what i define rice as or part of it:

1) unpainted body kits
2) fart can mufflers no real performance
3) LED anything (wiper squirters, tireflys, etc)
4) partial body kits, painted or not...for example, front lip rear lip stock skirts...exceptions apply, but im talking about something of a major body changing kit but with stock sides
5) cut springs
6) anything bought from autozone that is supposed to enhance the look of your car (ie - typeR anything, NOS anything, NOS floor mats, etc)
7) stupid decals...like, flames, tribals, big skulls, etc.
8) decals for **** you dont have...ex - NOS decal, no nitrous
9) fake FMIC intakes or things like it (ebay exhaust additions that make BOV noises)

and the list goes on but thats my partial take.
Matth3w 08-30-2005 08:21 PM

[QUOTE=hondaslayer]Foglamp cover stickers = rice (When combined with the splitters etc... to make the front end look like an STi)

Foglamp covers with no stickers, with splitters = not rice.

STi swap= I'll allow it :)

Nice wheels BTW.[/QUOTE]

hmmm...but say STi wing? rice? what about the BBS wheels? arguably what about the STi scoop, since i highly doubt it makes a huge if any perf difference?
grannyshifter 08-30-2005 08:21 PM

not a rice!

what board was saying you're car is a rice?
Matth3w 08-30-2005 08:23 PM

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Capitals : 250 million yen ( 100% funded by Fuji Heavy Industries )

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kaisersouse 08-30-2005 08:23 PM

[QUOTE=kero]Okay noob here, rice? I thought this referred to rice burners like honda and toyotas that were modded up??[/QUOTE]
Rice = the addition of aftermarket parts to a vehicle (typically slow stock honda, hyundai etc) to make it LOOK fast...without touching any of the engine internals. These include things like rear downforce on a FWD vehicle, flame decals, 6" muffler tips screwed onto the stock 1.5" pipe, BOV-sound kits on NA engines, Pretend/empty NOS bottles, neon all over (including the inside), gauges for things you dont have (boost gauge on boostless cars), grond effects kits that allow .5" of clearance, $20 fartcan mufflers....you get the idea.

It started with honda-esque people...but has moved to vehicles like the cavalier, focus etc (like the focus hunchback that leapt in front of me and blew thru an intersection (light was red for a while)...giant wing and light-up license plate bolts abound).
DerrickRH 08-30-2005 08:23 PM

[IMG]http://blogs.sohh.com/media_check/archives/poser-mobile.jpg[/IMG]
i think you will get a better answer from these guys so lets ask them.

i personally dont think it is rice at all. STi is Subaru's in house tuning company.

Fees shorty, fees

Derrick
Hondaslayer 08-30-2005 08:23 PM

6) anything bought from autozone that is supposed to enhance the look of your car (ie - typeR anything, NOS anything, NOS floor mats, etc)

8) decals for **** you dont have...ex - NOS decal, no nitrous


STi decals in the same spots as an STi are an attempt to mimic an STi.

A good example of this would be a TypeR badge on a civic sedan.
If it were a Civic hatch with a TypeR swap, the TypeR badge would be appropriate (Think of it as a TypeR clone)
left footed whooten 08-30-2005 08:25 PM

if they think your car is rice, then either dont let them drive it or tell them to put some hamachi on top of it, dredge it in soy sauce, and gag it down....
your car looks fine if you like it.
and i like the wheels too.
stokdd 08-30-2005 08:25 PM

It's WRX owners that want STi parts either to look fast/better, add downforce, etc., that allow some of us STi owners to veer away from the STi look (aka sleeper). Therefore, I have no problem with it. Hell, I have WRX interior and a WRX wing in my STi...would that be anti-rice -- adding/changing/modifying something to make it look [i]slower[/i] and more descreet?
Hondaslayer 08-30-2005 08:25 PM

[QUOTE=Matth3w]hmmm...but say STi wing? rice? what about the BBS wheels? arguably what about the STi scoop, since i highly doubt it makes a huge if any perf difference?[/QUOTE]


Those would be fine, as long as the badges were left off. However when you put the badges on it's a whole new ballgame.
kaisersouse 08-30-2005 08:26 PM

oh forgot one:

[SIZE=5]muffler tips with a ring of blue LEDs that you can get at kmart (currently $9 on clearance here. I wanted to hide them to save some poor idiot the embarassment)[/SIZE]
Hondaslayer 08-30-2005 08:28 PM

[QUOTE=kaisersouse]oh forgot one:

[SIZE=5]muffler tips with a ring of blue LEDs that you can get at kmart (currently $9 on clearance here. I wanted to hide them to save some poor idiot the embarassment)[/SIZE][/QUOTE]


Heh,

I had one of those on my GLH-S.

Sometimes you can use rice to make a fast car a total sleeper :devil:
left footed whooten 08-30-2005 08:28 PM

[QUOTE=hondaslayer]6) anything bought from autozone that is supposed to enhance the look of your car (ie - typeR anything, NOS anything, NOS floor mats, etc)

8) decals for **** you dont have...ex - NOS decal, no nitrous


STi decals in the same spots as an STi are an attempt to mimic an STi.

A good example of this would be a TypeR badge on a civic sedan.
If it were a Civic hatch with a TypeR swap, the TypeR badge would be appropriate (Think of it as a TypeR clone)[/QUOTE]
i have a type r badge on my unicycle....totally makes it faster and the chicks dig me now :lol:
Hondaslayer 08-30-2005 08:29 PM

[QUOTE=left footed whooten]i have a type r badge on my unicycle....totally makes it faster and the chicks dig me now :lol:[/QUOTE]


I have a GTR badge on my Lawnmower.

Although I do run 110 octane turbo blue in it :lol:
Matth3w 08-30-2005 08:31 PM

[QUOTE=grannyshifter]not a rice!

what board was saying you're car is a rice?[/QUOTE]

im the top poster over at msprotege.com (about 20k+ posts) and so ive developed quite a bad rep for telling people what i think about their car , or **** in general (which this is the friggin internet so i dont give a ****)...so,

well basically it started because some idiots got offended when they posted pics of all their crew's mazdas at some car show at Wal-Mart.

here is a touch of what was there:
[url]http://www.msprotege.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=57672[/url]

i said the wing on the RX7, and the body kit and general, as well as the fitament of the hood was garbage, and couldnt believe how some people take a perfectly good car and ruin it. i said ok, so it has over 400whp but that doesnt negate the fact that the owner has no taste in appearance. much like making a corvette have 1000whp but putting altezzas, a crappy whale wing, and poor fitting hood and chipped body kit would still suck.

their counter wasnt really much other than, **** and get out of our walmart picture thread, and that my STi fog covers were or could be considered rice because i dont drive an STi.

my counter was that one, that has nothing to do with what i commented on, and two, i didnt feel that it was ricer or even being a poser because the company STi is a subsiderary of Subaru much like TRD, Nismo, etc, and im simply buying their parts. I dont have the car badged as, nor try to pass the car off as an STi. as a matter of fact, my trunk isnt even debadged, so you can still see the rgular WRX badging.

frankly, i dont give two ****s what they think, i dont need someone elses opinion to mod my car. i modded my last car on my own, and it made it on MazdaUSA's tuning section of their Mazdapseed section of their site. you may not like my other car, but i had a lot of CF on it because i was sponsored...anyhow, i was just curious what the gneral consensus was here...if i realyl cared to the point of changing the way i mod, i would have asked prior to buying and installing a month and a half ago, but i didnt. but i do care enough just to see what others think, if that makes sense.
capecod_wrx 08-30-2005 08:32 PM

[QUOTE=hondaslayer]Nice wheels BTW.[/QUOTE]

^ +1 :cool:
MD04WRX 08-30-2005 08:32 PM

Nice - not rice.
Matth3w 08-30-2005 08:34 PM

word, thanks. keep the votes coming.
johnnywu 08-30-2005 08:35 PM

ok heres an idea.... just throwing it out there for you...

this is what you should do,
1)go to your car, pull out the registration check to see whos name is on there
2)check the title, check to see whos name is on it
3)find the car note, check to see whos name is on it
4)find the checks that the car notes have been paid with, check the name on that

now go find these people and ask them for their opinions...
and there you go...

JWU
kero 08-30-2005 08:35 PM

[QUOTE=kaisersouse]Rice = the addition of aftermarket parts to a vehicle (typically slow stock honda, hyundai etc) to make it LOOK fast...without touching any of the engine internals. These include things like rear downforce on a FWD vehicle, flame decals, 6" muffler tips screwed onto the stock 1.5" pipe, BOV-sound kits on NA engines, Pretend/empty NOS bottles, neon all over (including the inside), gauges for things you dont have (boost gauge on boostless cars), grond effects kits that allow .5" of clearance, $20 fartcan mufflers....you get the idea.

It started with honda-esque people...but has moved to vehicles like the cavalier, focus etc (like the focus hunchback that leapt in front of me and blew thru an intersection (light was red for a while)...giant wing and light-up license plate bolts abound).[/QUOTE]

So we are talking about POSERS then, okay, understood. I personally think sleepers are the coolest thing!
stArs Inked 08-30-2005 08:36 PM

I think the your front end would look smoother without the decals, but to each his own.

My vote=no rice vote for me!!!
Matth3w 08-30-2005 08:37 PM

oh , i agree, again...see the last paragraph of post 21...and again i dont care to the point of changing the way i mod, but i wasj ust wondering like if i go to a suby meet is everyone going to be snickering when my back is turned, etc
99subi 08-30-2005 08:37 PM

just becuase it say's STi doesnt mean its rice maybe he is sporting an STi intercooler and is showing that he has STi parts.People think wrx's and "STi's" are diffrent cars. correct me if im wrong but isnt the "STi" a wrx tuned by STi therefore it being called the WRX STI
J-Rex2004 08-30-2005 08:40 PM

[QUOTE=hondaslayer]Foglamp cover stickers = rice (When combined with the splitters etc... to make the front end look like an STi)

Foglamp covers with no stickers, with splitters = not rice.

STi swap= I'll allow it :)

Nice wheels BTW.[/QUOTE]


So if someone with a bugeye or GC has STi foglighgt covers thats rice....or is it ok since they where unavailable at the time :rolleyes: just like your FXT.
johnnywu 08-30-2005 08:44 PM

[QUOTE=Matth3w] i was just wondering like if i go to a suby meet is everyone going to be snickering when my back is turned, etc[/QUOTE]


well, you know ... ;)
Hondaslayer 08-30-2005 08:45 PM

[QUOTE=J-Rex2004]So if someone with a bugeye or GC has STi foglighgt covers thats rice....or is it ok since they where unavailable at the time :rolleyes: just like your FXT.[/QUOTE]


As I already stated, if it is clearly an attempt to clone a model that was not available here, then it is o.k.


And FWIW the Forester engine is identical to the STi engine except for the ECM,turbo, I/C and intake manifold.

I have all those items (I am sticking with the 5 speed due to the amazing 4.44 final drive) as well as the Forester STi interior (with the black centre console,side cupholder etc) the Forester STi wheels, the front and rear bumpers are on their way over. I'm only running the older STi 4 pots (gotta have 16's for winter) and I have prgress coil-overs instead of the clunk prone STi struts.

Damn, I'm such a poseur :roplleyes:
MU5A5HI 08-30-2005 08:51 PM

What makes a THREAD rice?

:banana:
Matth3w 08-30-2005 08:52 PM

what if you dont need the STi, the payments, or the insurance but like fog light covers and splitters? and since they are a company which is a subdivision of subaru, and not JUST the wrx sti, i dont see the problem i guess.

maybe if STi wasnt a company, and the WRX STi with those fog covers was the only STi ever of anything, thats one thing. but when you consider its a company, and etc etc, i dont see it as rice. i see it as buying parts from a company related to subaru, like buying a short shifter from the dealer, etc.
Honkey3k 08-30-2005 08:54 PM

**** haters :). i think it looks good.
Subie Gal 08-30-2005 08:54 PM

your car.

your car payment.

screw what anyone else thinks.

period :)

Jamie
[url]www.subiegal.com[/url]
joeyb7 08-30-2005 08:55 PM

What, so my plastic spinners are rice??
Matth3w 08-30-2005 08:56 PM

nope, ghetto lol.
make sure you vote if you havent already everyone so i can show this
Poseur2000 08-30-2005 09:02 PM

[i]Rice[/i] can be defined as a car made to appear more than it is. Add neons to a car to make it "flashier". Add a huge spoiler to make it seem like the car needs stupendous amounts of downforce. A [i]poser[/i] has the same connotations but refers, instead, to the type of person driving the car.

My vote is that the car is [b]not[/b] rice as it all appears functional.

But I clicked 'poser' because only a 'poser' needs the ego-stroking this thread was obviously meant to solicit.

You guys who worry too much about what other people think, need to grow up. :)
Hondaslayer 08-30-2005 09:02 PM

[QUOTE=Subie Gal]your car.

your car payment.

screw what anyone else thinks.

period :)

Jamie
[url]www.subiegal.com[/url][/QUOTE]


Jamie,

This ones fast, is it still rice???

[IMG]http://www.unclebens.de/NR/rdonlyres/4B1912A4-D5B8-4A3A-A272-916B71CD96F7/10430/expressspitzenlangkorn.jpg[/IMG]
Hondaslayer 08-30-2005 09:03 PM

[QUOTE=Poseur2000][i]Rice[/i] can be defined as a car made to appear more than it is. Add neons to a car to make it "flashier". Add a huge spoiler to make it seem like the car needs stupendous amounts of downforce. A [i]poser[/i] has the same connotations but refers, instead, to the type of person driving the car.

My vote is that the car is [b]not[/b] rice as it all appears functional.

But I clicked 'poser' because only a 'poser' needs the ego-stroking this thread was obviously meant to solicit.

You guys who worry too much about what other people think, need to grow up. :)[/QUOTE]


Says the guy who's name is Poseur :lol:


Sooooooo perfect.


You get 2 Guru "you're cool" pts
J-Rex2004 08-30-2005 09:07 PM

[QUOTE=hondaslayer]As I already stated, if it is clearly an attempt to clone a model that was not available here, then it is o.k.


And FWIW the Forester engine is identical to the STi engine except for the ECM,turbo, I/C and intake manifold.

I have all those items (I am sticking with the 5 speed due to the amazing 4.44 final drive) as well as the Forester STi interior (with the black centre console,side cupholder etc) the Forester STi wheels, the front and rear bumpers are on their way over. I'm only running the older STi 4 pots (gotta have 16's for winter) and I have progress coil-overs instead of the clunk prone STi struts.

Damn, I'm such a poseur :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Actually you just said if you did an STi swap you would allow it, not if it wasn't available here. So since you haven't done a swap for the full STi driveline you are rice by your standards, as I assume that you have STi decals all over your car by your hostile response.
Hondaslayer 08-30-2005 09:08 PM

[QUOTE=J-Rex2004]Actually you just said if you did an STi swap you would allow it, not if it wasn't available here. So since you haven't done a swap for the full STi driveline you are rice by your standards, as I assume that you have STi decals all over your car by your hostile response.[/QUOTE]


The only STi lettering on my car is on the seats and the Intercooler.

Nice try.
J-Rex2004 08-30-2005 09:15 PM

Well then, I hope that you leave the STi off of the bumper and the grill when you get them in or you'll being seeing the rice police.

PS you're forrester isn't an STi, you haven't done a full swap so you need to take it out of your profile before someone calls rice on you.
left footed whooten 08-30-2005 09:17 PM

[QUOTE=hondaslayer]I have a GTR badge on my Lawnmower.

Although I do run 110 octane turbo blue in it :lol:[/QUOTE]
sweet....must be all wheel drive
SubasaurusWrex 08-30-2005 09:25 PM

if you have sti parts (wing, scoop, etc.,) the YES i think the stickers comply because you are adding sti parts to a wrx. Im going to sporting sti emblems like mad once i buy them, got an sti engine in my wrex so i have the right to, just like someone with lesser sti mods does too.
Matth3w 08-30-2005 09:26 PM

[QUOTE=J-Rex2004]Well then, I hope that you leave the STi off of the bumper and the grill when you get them in or you'll being seeing the rice police.

PS you're forrester isn't an STi, you haven't done a full swap so you need to take it out of your profile before someone calls rice on you.[/QUOTE]
lol...damn
Hondaslayer 08-30-2005 09:34 PM

[QUOTE=J-Rex2004]Well then, I hope that you leave the STi off of the bumper and the grill when you get them in or you'll being seeing the rice police.

PS you're forrester isn't an STi, you haven't done a full swap so you need to take it out of your profile before someone calls rice on you.[/QUOTE]


They can call rice all they want.

I'm not self conscious about what some kids on the internet think.

And another tidbit of info for ya. The Forester XT gearbox is an older STi RA gearbox.
mcowger 08-30-2005 09:53 PM

WHo cares?

I have a 05 WRX with sti fog covers, sti splitters, sti hoodscoop, sti wing, sti interior, etc. Now, I also have some pretty decent performance ot go along with it (Custom stage 2, etc), but my cars looks are for me, not anyone else.
IronMedic 08-30-2005 09:55 PM

i have the fog light covers on my car as well. i took the STi off of it though. i left the rest of the words on it! i put them on to protect my fog lights :)
Matth3w 08-30-2005 10:04 PM

just curious who voted rice.
Hondaslayer 08-30-2005 10:08 PM

I voted poseur
zmaster 08-30-2005 10:15 PM

Dude,
I have a rs and im adding the side splitter on them too..i just like the look ..and dont want to shell out a 300 dollars trying to get a ill fitting front lip..i say..forget a'bout it!!

zmaster
chris-man 08-30-2005 11:42 PM

your car aint rice.
moogoob 08-30-2005 11:46 PM

all you sukiyami types is rice. with or without fog covers.

That said: I dig it!
steeter 08-31-2005 12:19 AM

+1 for the rims.

Not rice for the win :)

This being rice is like every other WRX that has an STI scoop. Right?
Matth3w 08-31-2005 12:20 AM

i wish all the people who voted rice came in to explain why
Jesse00 08-31-2005 12:57 AM

[QUOTE=Matth3w]i wish all the people who voted rice came in to explain why[/QUOTE]

cuz they are spies from the srt4 forums... muahahaha :devil:
WikdRX 08-31-2005 02:30 AM

if it was me i would have taken the stickers off (it looks cleaner) but to me its in no way rice. Forget what others think. Ive had my car called rice before too, just ignore them. At the end of the day whose garage is the car parked in?
Matth3w 08-31-2005 09:06 AM

63-26 isnt quite what i expected...

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