| trhoppe | 08-09-2004 09:15 PM |
SportsCar STX choices
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So I got my SportsCar today and was reading their national championship picks for this year. Not surprisingly (but incorrectly :lol: ) they are picking Mikey to take it, but what I don't understand is their list of "challengers". Sure KC, Josh and I are listed, but Courtney Cormier is "at the top of that list" :lol: :confused: along with Richard West, Karl Asseily and Toby Larsson :confused: :huh: Who the hell are those guys?
-Tom
-Tom
| makofoto | 08-09-2004 09:22 PM |
Karl and Toby, along with Toby's wife Beverlee ... are some of our top STX drivers in the Los Angeles area. Toby and Beverlee switched from a WRX last year to a BMW this year. Beverlee can beat her husband! Karl is very fast (especially in his JDM EVO 7) ... they will all be sharing the BMW. It will be very interesting to see how they fare against the WRX's ... my allegiance is split between being a WRX driver and a L.A. driver ... :-)
Karl won SM2 last year in the L.A. area ... Beverlee was 2nd in STX, Toby 3rd ...
Karl won SM2 last year in the L.A. area ... Beverlee was 2nd in STX, Toby 3rd ...
| trhoppe | 08-09-2004 09:40 PM |
Hmm 4 seconds off the pace will be my guess :lol:
-Tom
-Tom
| jcroy66 | 08-09-2004 09:41 PM |
I'm pretty stoked about being listed in STXL as "Challenges could come from Jennifer Croy...". :banana:
I guess now we have to go, huh?? :lol:
I guess now we have to go, huh?? :lol:
| Storm | 08-09-2004 10:34 PM |
That's because you're already registered. and had a decent finish at a 'tour event. They didn't mention my name to upset Butts or Fauth only because I'm not regestered....... ;)
[/DREAM]
Jay Storm
[I]giving[/I] the Subaru $$$ to zzyzx this year!
[/DREAM]
Jay Storm
[I]giving[/I] the Subaru $$$ to zzyzx this year!
| zzyzx | 08-10-2004 04:38 AM |
[QUOTE=Storm][I]giving[/I] the Subaru $$$ to zzyzx this year![/QUOTE]
:lol:
Hell, Jay I think I'm gonna be the only Subaru in DSP...? :(
My goal is to be the fastest Subaru in '04 at Nats. Possible? :alien:
- Steve Sulatycki
[URL="zzyzxmotorsports.com"]Zzyzx Motorsports[/URL]
:lol:
Hell, Jay I think I'm gonna be the only Subaru in DSP...? :(
My goal is to be the fastest Subaru in '04 at Nats. Possible? :alien:
- Steve Sulatycki
[URL="zzyzxmotorsports.com"]Zzyzx Motorsports[/URL]
| jcroy66 | 08-10-2004 07:08 AM |
Storm, nice theory. Except I'm not registered yet. :lol:
| KC | 08-10-2004 07:43 AM |
I want my 'SportsCar was wrong' shirt. Didn't get mine last year. :D
Tom, I'm surprised you, of all people, bring this up after the smackdown you got last year.... this is ANYONES game at the big show.
May the best driver win. :)
--kC
(And the Jacket wouldn't hurt either)
Tom, I'm surprised you, of all people, bring this up after the smackdown you got last year.... this is ANYONES game at the big show.
May the best driver win. :)
--kC
(And the Jacket wouldn't hurt either)
| Draken | 08-10-2004 09:12 AM |
I'm registered but need to renew my SCCA membership :)
Sean Ross is gonna co-drive with me, and Pam Eames will be running my car in ESPL. Funny part is, she'll be running against Kelly Mosgrove again (the battled for STSL top honors 2 years ago.) Looks like Curtis will run my car in SM unless he can find a good tire warming spot for Tues/Wed.
Chris H.
Sean Ross is gonna co-drive with me, and Pam Eames will be running my car in ESPL. Funny part is, she'll be running against Kelly Mosgrove again (the battled for STSL top honors 2 years ago.) Looks like Curtis will run my car in SM unless he can find a good tire warming spot for Tues/Wed.
Chris H.
| jmott | 08-10-2004 09:13 AM |
any 2.5RSes gonna show up in DSP?
| trhoppe | 08-10-2004 09:18 AM |
There is only zzyzx AFAIK.
-Tom
-Tom
| stxwrxracer | 08-10-2004 10:09 AM |
Woohoo! Damn, that "Sportscar was right!" shirt is gonna feel good on Wednesday night....;)
-Mike
KC's right though...it is anyone's game.
-Mike
KC's right though...it is anyone's game.
| dwx | 08-10-2004 10:27 AM |
[QUOTE=zzyzx]:lol:
Hell, Jay I think I'm gonna be the only Subaru in DSP...? :(
My goal is to be the fastest Subaru in '04 at Nats. Possible? :alien:
- Steve Sulatycki
[URL="zzyzxmotorsports.com"]Zzyzx Motorsports[/URL][/QUOTE]
I don't see why you wouldn't be, as long as I don't show up. :)
Hell, Jay I think I'm gonna be the only Subaru in DSP...? :(
My goal is to be the fastest Subaru in '04 at Nats. Possible? :alien:
- Steve Sulatycki
[URL="zzyzxmotorsports.com"]Zzyzx Motorsports[/URL][/QUOTE]
I don't see why you wouldn't be, as long as I don't show up. :)
| trhoppe | 08-10-2004 10:27 AM |
I still have the popular vote :lol:
[url]http://www.sirota.org/picks/totals/results.html[/url]
-Tom
[url]http://www.sirota.org/picks/totals/results.html[/url]
-Tom
| trhoppe | 08-10-2004 10:29 AM |
[QUOTE=zzyzx]
My goal is to be the fastest Subaru in '04 at Nats. Possible? :alien:
- Steve Sulatycki
[URL="zzyzxmotorsports.com"]Zzyzx Motorsports[/URL][/QUOTE]
ahemyouforgotaboutstxcough
-Tom
My goal is to be the fastest Subaru in '04 at Nats. Possible? :alien:
- Steve Sulatycki
[URL="zzyzxmotorsports.com"]Zzyzx Motorsports[/URL][/QUOTE]
ahemyouforgotaboutstxcough
-Tom
| wrx2.0 555 | 08-10-2004 10:31 AM |
Is gambling forbidden on this forum??? :):)
| TyrannoSullyRex | 08-10-2004 10:32 AM |
[QUOTE=KC](And the Jacket wouldn't hurt either)[/QUOTE]
you STILL haven't gotten a jacket??
you STILL haven't gotten a jacket??
| TyrannoSullyRex | 08-10-2004 10:37 AM |
[QUOTE=trhoppe]I still have the popular vote :lol:
[url]http://www.sirota.org/picks/totals/results.html[/url]
-Tom[/QUOTE]
Hey, I got four votes and I only know (personally) one person on the voter list.
I'm ahead of KC (only because 'b' comes before 'k').
I'm gonna go vote for Superman.
[url]http://www.sirota.org/picks/totals/results.html[/url]
-Tom[/QUOTE]
Hey, I got four votes and I only know (personally) one person on the voter list.
I'm ahead of KC (only because 'b' comes before 'k').
I'm gonna go vote for Superman.
| DrBiggly | 08-10-2004 10:38 AM |
Dang, KC only has 4% of the vote.
| 10th Warrior | 08-10-2004 10:38 AM |
[quote]ahemyouforgotaboutstxcough[/quote]
bah! [i]i[/i] may beat STX :p i'll put money on Steve as the fastest RS, though i think Branden in AS or perhaps one of the ESP guys will take SFTD.
[quote]They didn't mention my name to upset Butts or Fauth only because I'm not regestered.......[/quote]
i like this theory :D Carpenter won't know what hit him! *checks phone to make sure Tanya Harding is on speed dial*
Jeff-you don't need camber when you have extra weight-Templeton
bah! [i]i[/i] may beat STX :p i'll put money on Steve as the fastest RS, though i think Branden in AS or perhaps one of the ESP guys will take SFTD.
[quote]They didn't mention my name to upset Butts or Fauth only because I'm not regestered.......[/quote]
i like this theory :D Carpenter won't know what hit him! *checks phone to make sure Tanya Harding is on speed dial*
Jeff-you don't need camber when you have extra weight-Templeton
| KC | 08-10-2004 10:40 AM |
[QUOTE=trhoppe]I still have the popular vote :lol:
[url]http://www.sirota.org/picks/totals/results.html[/url]
-Tom[/QUOTE]
Tom, asking your friends to vote for you kinda skews things.
[url]http://www.sirota.org/picks/totals/results.html[/url]
-Tom[/QUOTE]
Tom, asking your friends to vote for you kinda skews things.
| KC | 08-10-2004 10:43 AM |
[QUOTE=TyrannoSullyRex]you STILL haven't gotten a jacket??[/QUOTE]
Nahh... at this point I really don't care about it. It must be that I still have beer flowing though me from Finland.... hanging around Irish rally folks all weekend does not bode a body well. :)
Nahh... at this point I really don't care about it. It must be that I still have beer flowing though me from Finland.... hanging around Irish rally folks all weekend does not bode a body well. :)
| trhoppe | 08-10-2004 10:44 AM |
:lol: :lol:
KC did get ripped on the jacket though....
-Tom
KC did get ripped on the jacket though....
-Tom
| trojan9x | 08-10-2004 10:48 AM |
Wish I had the money to go :( I've beaten most of the people on that STS list at least once before :D
No one knows me though ;)
No one knows me though ;)
| jbrennen | 08-10-2004 10:57 AM |
[QUOTE=dwx]I don't see why you wouldn't be, as long as I don't show up. :)[/QUOTE]
Are you doing the ProSolo Finale? Those ProSolos can put your car out of commission if you're not careful... ;)
Seriously, [b]dwx[/b] is my bet for the fastest autoX Scooby in the nation.
Are you doing the ProSolo Finale? Those ProSolos can put your car out of commission if you're not careful... ;)
Seriously, [b]dwx[/b] is my bet for the fastest autoX Scooby in the nation.
| stxwrxracer | 08-10-2004 11:51 AM |
Hmm...don't forget about Kiko Seibt and Joel Fehrman in ther STi ESP monsters...its gonna take alot to beat them in raw time. After seeing Kiko's in action on the Kumho 710s...all I can say is WOW!
-Mike
-Mike
| Draken | 08-10-2004 12:28 PM |
Mike: How do you rate Kiko's chances against the "normal ESP" rides...and the Evo's that have run this year?
Chris H.
Chris H.
| zzyzx | 08-10-2004 12:32 PM |
[QUOTE=trhoppe]ahemyouforgotaboutstxcough
-Tom[/QUOTE]
You're getting [b]real[/b] optimistic now, aren't you? ;)
I think the fastest scooby award is valid seeing that they still give an FTD for Nats ... to AM every year. :rolleyes: :lol:
-Tom[/QUOTE]
You're getting [b]real[/b] optimistic now, aren't you? ;)
I think the fastest scooby award is valid seeing that they still give an FTD for Nats ... to AM every year. :rolleyes: :lol:
| trhoppe | 08-10-2004 12:35 PM |
[QUOTE=zzyzx]You're getting [b]real[/b] optimistic now, aren't you? ;)
I think the fastest scooby award is valid seeing that they still give an FTD for Nats ... to AM every year. :rolleyes: :lol:[/QUOTE]
Not really. How much faster are you then Storm ;)
Edit: and I forgot about ESP for fastest. Its definetly going to be between Phil and Kiko/Hartman. If phil is on 275s then I'll give the edge to him, but phil on 245 hoosiers vs ESP STIs on 275 V710s is going to be a tossup :)
-Tom
I think the fastest scooby award is valid seeing that they still give an FTD for Nats ... to AM every year. :rolleyes: :lol:[/QUOTE]
Not really. How much faster are you then Storm ;)
Edit: and I forgot about ESP for fastest. Its definetly going to be between Phil and Kiko/Hartman. If phil is on 275s then I'll give the edge to him, but phil on 245 hoosiers vs ESP STIs on 275 V710s is going to be a tossup :)
-Tom
| Draken | 08-10-2004 12:47 PM |
I can't find anybody with 710s in stock. Tire Rack won't have them until Sept 9th, and Vilven will not answer their phone. I've been a loyal Kumho runner for a couple years, but looks like they are driving me towards their competition. Guess I'll see if 275 Hoosiers fit.
Chris H.
Chris H.
| thechickencow | 08-10-2004 12:51 PM |
I wonder if I should go to nationals just to carry a fire extinguisher around behind phil. :lol:
| Orion | 08-10-2004 12:53 PM |
[QUOTE=KC]
Tom, I'm surprised you, of all people, bring this up after the smackdown you got last year.... this is ANYONES game at the big show.
[/QUOTE]
I was thinking the EXACT same thing.
Honestly when I see this attitude toward everyone else I hope we see it again.
Funny there was no mention of Todd. :confused:
Tom, I'm surprised you, of all people, bring this up after the smackdown you got last year.... this is ANYONES game at the big show.
[/QUOTE]
I was thinking the EXACT same thing.
Honestly when I see this attitude toward everyone else I hope we see it again.
Funny there was no mention of Todd. :confused:
| zzyzx | 08-10-2004 01:06 PM |
Well, I do have one prediction for Topeka that you can all benefit from: it's going to rain. If our weather so far this year is any indication of how it's going to be in September, you could say the chance for rain at Nats is at least 50% higher than a normal year.
- Steve Sulatycki
P.S. Take note of this, Mr. Hoppe. ;)
- Steve Sulatycki
P.S. Take note of this, Mr. Hoppe. ;)
| trhoppe | 08-10-2004 01:07 PM |
[QUOTE=zzyzx] it's going to rain.
P.S. Take note of this, Mr. Hoppe. ;)[/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol:
Oh I'm ready with "rain" tires this year (full tread azenis). Not going to repeat last years 3 seconds off the pace on dry weather tires. I was by far the fastest on KDs, does that count??
[quote]Honestly when I see this attitude toward everyone else[/quote]
What attitude? They list someone who was 4 seconds back of josh sortor as "likely to be a contender" puhlease! :lol:
If it was me predicting I would say that mikey would be "favored to win" with KC, josh and I as "top condenders" but then courtney also being able to take it. It also all depends on the courses make it a fast transitiony course and the Type argghs and minis would be favored. Sorry, but you have to be better then 5th or 6th at a national event for me to consider you a "national championship contender" ;)
-Tom
cocky bastard
P.S. Take note of this, Mr. Hoppe. ;)[/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol:
Oh I'm ready with "rain" tires this year (full tread azenis). Not going to repeat last years 3 seconds off the pace on dry weather tires. I was by far the fastest on KDs, does that count??
[quote]Honestly when I see this attitude toward everyone else[/quote]
What attitude? They list someone who was 4 seconds back of josh sortor as "likely to be a contender" puhlease! :lol:
If it was me predicting I would say that mikey would be "favored to win" with KC, josh and I as "top condenders" but then courtney also being able to take it. It also all depends on the courses make it a fast transitiony course and the Type argghs and minis would be favored. Sorry, but you have to be better then 5th or 6th at a national event for me to consider you a "national championship contender" ;)
-Tom
cocky bastard
| jcroy66 | 08-10-2004 01:25 PM |
While I hate the thought of agreeing with Tom ( :lol: ;) ), my thought is that someone who was 3rd in STX at a regional level seems an unlikely person to be listed as a contender for a national open title. Unless at least one of the following is true:
1. He missed a bunch of the local events because he was going to national events.
2. He was using the local events purely to practice different techniques for national events.
3. He's improved a lot since last year.
4. It's a very, very strong STX region (which LA might be, I don't know).
As for Beverlee, it appears I have my work cut out for me. At the San Diego Tour, it looks like she was less than a tenth back from Sortor. :eek:
1. He missed a bunch of the local events because he was going to national events.
2. He was using the local events purely to practice different techniques for national events.
3. He's improved a lot since last year.
4. It's a very, very strong STX region (which LA might be, I don't know).
As for Beverlee, it appears I have my work cut out for me. At the San Diego Tour, it looks like she was less than a tenth back from Sortor. :eek:
| dwx | 08-10-2004 01:35 PM |
[QUOTE=jbrennen]Are you doing the ProSolo Finale? Those ProSolos can put your car out of commission if you're not careful... ;)
Seriously, [b]dwx[/b] is my bet for the fastest autoX Scooby in the nation.[/QUOTE]
Yeah Jack I'll be at the finale. The car will hopefully be running a little better by then with some new toys perhaps.
I won't be on the 245 Hoosiers for the finale and Nationals. I'll be using either 265/45/16 V710s or 275/45/16 A3S04s.
We'll see how I stack up against the ESP STIs. The only tour event I've ever done is Peru this year and I stunk. I hope it's not DG syndrome. He does well in the Pros but is just too inconsistent most of the time in the tour events.
Phil
Seriously, [b]dwx[/b] is my bet for the fastest autoX Scooby in the nation.[/QUOTE]
Yeah Jack I'll be at the finale. The car will hopefully be running a little better by then with some new toys perhaps.
I won't be on the 245 Hoosiers for the finale and Nationals. I'll be using either 265/45/16 V710s or 275/45/16 A3S04s.
We'll see how I stack up against the ESP STIs. The only tour event I've ever done is Peru this year and I stunk. I hope it's not DG syndrome. He does well in the Pros but is just too inconsistent most of the time in the tour events.
Phil
| zzyzx | 08-10-2004 01:39 PM |
Phil, don't you drive an STi? I thought so, but I could be wrong...
| thechickencow | 08-10-2004 01:55 PM |
[QUOTE=zzyzx]Phil, don't you drive an STi? I thought so, but I could be wrong...[/QUOTE]
IBphilsmodlist
IBphilsmodlist
| dwx | 08-10-2004 01:58 PM |
I drive a WRX with an EJ257 block and V8 RA heads. I also have a 6MT, so it's a lot like an STI only it's not an STI. I also have a big wing on the back. :)
It's an SM car so it runs a different turbo and more boost and makes a bit more power than a STI. It's also a bit lighter, around 3000 lbs. I've been running 245 Hoosiers this year for tires, but my current set is just about done and I'm going to move up to 265 or 275s.
It's an SM car so it runs a different turbo and more boost and makes a bit more power than a STI. It's also a bit lighter, around 3000 lbs. I've been running 245 Hoosiers this year for tires, but my current set is just about done and I'm going to move up to 265 or 275s.
| zzyzx | 08-10-2004 02:01 PM |
Ah, I was wondering how those 16" Koseis would clear the Brembo brakes... guess that's not an issue. :) Did you get your wheels yet?
- Steve Sulatycki
- Steve Sulatycki
| dwx | 08-10-2004 02:15 PM |
Nah I haven't ordered them yet. I ran into some extra expenses and I'm gonna order them this winter. I have some 16x8 +45 rims I'm going to use in the meantime and hopefully with about a 10mm spacer they will clear in the rear.
| trhoppe | 08-10-2004 02:27 PM |
Phil's car > STi ;)
Just wait until phil's "next car" is together :eek:
-Tom
Just wait until phil's "next car" is together :eek:
-Tom
| stxwrxracer | 08-10-2004 03:34 PM |
[QUOTE=Draken]Mike: How do you rate Kiko's chances against the "normal ESP" rides...and the Evo's that have run this year?
Chris H.[/QUOTE]
Kiko and his car are both capable of winning ESP this year. I've only seen a couple Evo's run this year and Kiko was still beating them on street tires. And honestly most of the events that I went to this year have been wash-outs. Bottom-line, Kiko has a car that can win, and he can drive it. So, time will tell.
-Mike
Chris H.[/QUOTE]
Kiko and his car are both capable of winning ESP this year. I've only seen a couple Evo's run this year and Kiko was still beating them on street tires. And honestly most of the events that I went to this year have been wash-outs. Bottom-line, Kiko has a car that can win, and he can drive it. So, time will tell.
-Mike
| jbrennen | 08-10-2004 03:46 PM |
[QUOTE=stxwrxracer]I've only seen a couple Evo's run this year and Kiko was still beating them on street tires.[/QUOTE]
No disrespect intended to Kiko -- I know he's a very good driver -- but take a look at his performance at the DC ProSolo. He was cone-troubled on his only dry runs, but if we give him his best scratch times, he comes up with a 55.526 there. That compares favorably to the ESP-winning Evo's time of 54.871, given that Kiko was on ST tires -- some might say Kiko was very impressive -- but I wouldn't characterize it as "still beating them on street tires."
No disrespect intended to Kiko -- I know he's a very good driver -- but take a look at his performance at the DC ProSolo. He was cone-troubled on his only dry runs, but if we give him his best scratch times, he comes up with a 55.526 there. That compares favorably to the ESP-winning Evo's time of 54.871, given that Kiko was on ST tires -- some might say Kiko was very impressive -- but I wouldn't characterize it as "still beating them on street tires."
| zzyzx | 08-10-2004 04:01 PM |
[QUOTE=stxwrxracer]Kiko and his car are both capable of winning ESP this year. I've only seen a couple Evo's run this year and Kiko was still beating them on street tires. And honestly most of the events that I went to this year have been wash-outs. Bottom-line, Kiko has a car that can win, and he can drive it. So, time will tell.
-Mike[/QUOTE]
We'll see. I watched Eric Stemler run his Evo this past weekend at Forbes. He was fast - real fast. Had the right setup. His car experienced some of the issues mine does with a stiff suspension, and he also needs a front diff. - burning the front wheel around the turns... losing time. That said, he PAX'd 3rd overall, right on the tail of Madarash and Jorgensen. Good company to be in. Not often that the 3 top PAX spots go to ESP in an event with 185 drivers that includes many multi-time National champs.
[QUOTE]
1. 91/ESP MARK MADARASH, TX 88 PONT TRANS-AM (0.824) 73.427
2. 199/ESP MARK JORGENSEN, NE 98 FORD MUSTANG CO (0.824) 73.431
3. 193/ESP ERIC STEMLER, 4 03 MIST LANCER EVO (0.824) 73.671
4. 198/DS BRIAN FITZPATRICK, NE 01 ACUR INTEGRA TY (0.794) 73.713
5. 133/STS ANDY HOLLIS, LNSTR 89 HOND CIVIC SI (0.791) 74.004
6. 8/BP SAM PLATT, STL 73 CHEV CORVETTE (0.863) 74.337
7. 123/DS MATTHEW GRAINGER, STL 97 ACUR INTEGRA TY (0.794) 74.553
8. 95/CSP RON WILLIAMS, KS 85 HOND CRX (0.837) 74.649
9. 187/FSP JERRY IRVINE, KC 87 VW GOLF (0.813) 74.670
10. 71/STS ROBERT SEELIG, OK 90 HOND CIVIC SI (0.791) 74.677
[/QUOTE]
- Steve Sulatycki
-Mike[/QUOTE]
We'll see. I watched Eric Stemler run his Evo this past weekend at Forbes. He was fast - real fast. Had the right setup. His car experienced some of the issues mine does with a stiff suspension, and he also needs a front diff. - burning the front wheel around the turns... losing time. That said, he PAX'd 3rd overall, right on the tail of Madarash and Jorgensen. Good company to be in. Not often that the 3 top PAX spots go to ESP in an event with 185 drivers that includes many multi-time National champs.
[QUOTE]
1. 91/ESP MARK MADARASH, TX 88 PONT TRANS-AM (0.824) 73.427
2. 199/ESP MARK JORGENSEN, NE 98 FORD MUSTANG CO (0.824) 73.431
3. 193/ESP ERIC STEMLER, 4 03 MIST LANCER EVO (0.824) 73.671
4. 198/DS BRIAN FITZPATRICK, NE 01 ACUR INTEGRA TY (0.794) 73.713
5. 133/STS ANDY HOLLIS, LNSTR 89 HOND CIVIC SI (0.791) 74.004
6. 8/BP SAM PLATT, STL 73 CHEV CORVETTE (0.863) 74.337
7. 123/DS MATTHEW GRAINGER, STL 97 ACUR INTEGRA TY (0.794) 74.553
8. 95/CSP RON WILLIAMS, KS 85 HOND CRX (0.837) 74.649
9. 187/FSP JERRY IRVINE, KC 87 VW GOLF (0.813) 74.670
10. 71/STS ROBERT SEELIG, OK 90 HOND CIVIC SI (0.791) 74.677
[/QUOTE]
- Steve Sulatycki
| trhoppe | 08-10-2004 04:33 PM |
This is how I feel
"Kiko, Chris, etc. Please Sandbag. Don't spoil it for those of us who want in to ESP next year"
:lol: IMHO Kiko and Chris will whip Stemler/Tipple so bad their heads will spin
-Tom
"Kiko, Chris, etc. Please Sandbag. Don't spoil it for those of us who want in to ESP next year"
:lol: IMHO Kiko and Chris will whip Stemler/Tipple so bad their heads will spin
-Tom
| Jsortor | 08-10-2004 08:14 PM |
[QUOTE=jcroy66]
As for Beverlee, it appears I have my work cut out for me. At the San Diego Tour, it looks like she was less than a tenth back from Sortor. :eek:[/QUOTE]
I can call a muligan on this event right? I think everyone else would have one this year if they could.......Kieth? Tom? Mike?.......
As for Beverlee, it appears I have my work cut out for me. At the San Diego Tour, it looks like she was less than a tenth back from Sortor. :eek:[/QUOTE]
I can call a muligan on this event right? I think everyone else would have one this year if they could.......Kieth? Tom? Mike?.......
| mofugga | 08-10-2004 08:52 PM |
which STX driver lost to the STS Civic a few events back? :lol:
| trhoppe | 08-10-2004 10:03 PM |
[QUOTE=mofugga]which STX driver lost to the STS Civic a few events back? :lol:[/QUOTE]
I have no idea. As I said in another thread, my memory of that event has been wiped. I don't remember anything after friday night and before sunday night that weekend. We were driving in the tow truck and next thing I know we are loading the car back on the trailer. Dunno what happened inbetween :lol: Funny thing about that, was Corey who walked up to me and said "what the **** were you doing out there? You looked like a hack!".
[quote]I can call a muligan on this event right?[/quote] :lol: :lol: thats funny.....
-Tom
I have no idea. As I said in another thread, my memory of that event has been wiped. I don't remember anything after friday night and before sunday night that weekend. We were driving in the tow truck and next thing I know we are loading the car back on the trailer. Dunno what happened inbetween :lol: Funny thing about that, was Corey who walked up to me and said "what the **** were you doing out there? You looked like a hack!".
[quote]I can call a muligan on this event right?[/quote] :lol: :lol: thats funny.....
-Tom
| MNbiker | 08-10-2004 11:27 PM |
[QUOTE=trhoppe]Phil's car > STi ;)[/QUOTE]
Yep, except when it's on fire! :lol: :lol:
Seriously, Phil's car is a beast. :D
[QUOTE=trhoppe]Just wait until phil's "next car" is together :eek:[/QUOTE]
I can't wait to see the frankenpreza in action next year. 400+whp at the SM minimum weight should be "amusing". :devil:
Yep, except when it's on fire! :lol: :lol:
Seriously, Phil's car is a beast. :D
[QUOTE=trhoppe]Just wait until phil's "next car" is together :eek:[/QUOTE]
I can't wait to see the frankenpreza in action next year. 400+whp at the SM minimum weight should be "amusing". :devil:
| trojan9x | 08-11-2004 12:13 AM |
[QUOTE=trhoppe]I have no idea. As I said in another thread, my memory of that event has been wiped. I don't remember anything after friday night and before sunday night that weekend. We were driving in the tow truck and next thing I know we are loading the car back on the trailer. Dunno what happened inbetween :lol: Funny thing about that, was Corey who walked up to me and said "what the **** were you doing out there? You looked like a hack!".
:lol: :lol: thats funny.....
-Tom[/QUOTE]
Hey, there was nothing wrong with that event! It was one of my best events I've run.. I think I even beat you raw time on day two :p
Then again, you don't remember a thing :lol:
The STS Tom
:lol: :lol: thats funny.....
-Tom[/QUOTE]
Hey, there was nothing wrong with that event! It was one of my best events I've run.. I think I even beat you raw time on day two :p
Then again, you don't remember a thing :lol:
The STS Tom
| jbrennen | 08-11-2004 12:25 AM |
[QUOTE=trhoppe]I have no idea. As I said in another thread, my memory of that event has been wiped. I don't remember anything after friday night and before sunday night that weekend.[/QUOTE]
That's the weekend that I engaged Miranda in well over an hour of social intercourse, which you not only tolerated, but you provided the furniture... Ooops, I think I've said too much... :lol:
That's the weekend that I engaged Miranda in well over an hour of social intercourse, which you not only tolerated, but you provided the furniture... Ooops, I think I've said too much... :lol:
| z3coupe | 08-11-2004 12:43 AM |
[QUOTE]Karl Asseily and Toby Larsson Who the hell are those guys?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Hmm 4 seconds off the pace will be my guess
-Tom[/QUOTE] You know Tom, I used to have a LOT of respect for you, until I see this elitist BS!!!!!! What is with you? I might not be a national driver like you, nor might ever be. But I sure did some good driving in my earlier years, beating my old buddy Peter "PD" Cunningham more often than not in our Solo II days. And look where he is today - so that shows I did have SOME skills when I was in my 20's. It got to the point that we just had to show up to an event for the others in the class to jokingly begin to pack up. But we NEVER talked like you are doing!!!! And I wonder how you took it when you first started to come out, and someone might have had that very same attitude towards you? And as you know nothing about Karl or Toby (and act as if you don't even care to cuz you are just soooooooo good), you just might end up eating your words.
So, you are the BIG GUN now in class, but how long did it take you to get there????? Well, a bit of history about Karl. He only started racing in about 2000 with a his brand new //M Coupe. I was beating him with my Z3 Coupe at every event that first year, both in BMWCCA and SCCA. By the next year we were about even. The year after that he was creaming me, as well as about the top driver in both LA and SD BMWCCA and was in a 2 way battle for tops in ASP here in So Cal. Then he became one of the more sought after BMWCCA instructors as well as one of the top track instructors for TrackQuest driving schools. Now he is doing extremely well in his JDM EVO VII in SM. This guy just LOVES racing, and has natural talent! Something many of us need a better setup car to compensate for. And he has come quite far in so short a time. You are selling him too short, and any general knows NOT to understimate an opponent. Seems you don't though.
[QUOTE]What attitude? They list someone who was 4 seconds back of josh sortor as "likely to be a contender" puhlease! [/QUOTE] THAT ATTITUDE!!!!!!! So someone was slower at an event. Does not mean he won't be faster at the next? Or that he, like Karl has shown, won't improve every time he goes out? You must think only you get better - NOT! As much as I LOVE Sube's, I hope he puts a big hurt on you bubba!!!!!! Thank goodness there are still cool guys like KC around.
-Tom[/QUOTE] You know Tom, I used to have a LOT of respect for you, until I see this elitist BS!!!!!! What is with you? I might not be a national driver like you, nor might ever be. But I sure did some good driving in my earlier years, beating my old buddy Peter "PD" Cunningham more often than not in our Solo II days. And look where he is today - so that shows I did have SOME skills when I was in my 20's. It got to the point that we just had to show up to an event for the others in the class to jokingly begin to pack up. But we NEVER talked like you are doing!!!! And I wonder how you took it when you first started to come out, and someone might have had that very same attitude towards you? And as you know nothing about Karl or Toby (and act as if you don't even care to cuz you are just soooooooo good), you just might end up eating your words.
So, you are the BIG GUN now in class, but how long did it take you to get there????? Well, a bit of history about Karl. He only started racing in about 2000 with a his brand new //M Coupe. I was beating him with my Z3 Coupe at every event that first year, both in BMWCCA and SCCA. By the next year we were about even. The year after that he was creaming me, as well as about the top driver in both LA and SD BMWCCA and was in a 2 way battle for tops in ASP here in So Cal. Then he became one of the more sought after BMWCCA instructors as well as one of the top track instructors for TrackQuest driving schools. Now he is doing extremely well in his JDM EVO VII in SM. This guy just LOVES racing, and has natural talent! Something many of us need a better setup car to compensate for. And he has come quite far in so short a time. You are selling him too short, and any general knows NOT to understimate an opponent. Seems you don't though.
[QUOTE]What attitude? They list someone who was 4 seconds back of josh sortor as "likely to be a contender" puhlease! [/QUOTE] THAT ATTITUDE!!!!!!! So someone was slower at an event. Does not mean he won't be faster at the next? Or that he, like Karl has shown, won't improve every time he goes out? You must think only you get better - NOT! As much as I LOVE Sube's, I hope he puts a big hurt on you bubba!!!!!! Thank goodness there are still cool guys like KC around.
| MNbiker | 08-11-2004 12:49 AM |
[QUOTE=z3coupe]I hope he puts a big hurt on you bubba!!!!!! Thank goodness there are still cool guys like KC around.[/QUOTE]
Take that, you Cajun redneck! :lol: :lol: :lol:
-Steve
p.s. Yep, KC's cooler than Tom - he drives a Wagon! :disco:
Take that, you Cajun redneck! :lol: :lol: :lol:
-Steve
p.s. Yep, KC's cooler than Tom - he drives a Wagon! :disco:
| thechickencow | 08-11-2004 02:08 AM |
Wagon schmagon.
| KC | 08-11-2004 07:50 AM |
Ok, before this blows into a head on head flame war....
Let cooler heads prevail, mmmkay?
It was pointed out to Tom what he said was a bit over the top.... hopefully we can all leave it at that. (What's this... me trying to stop instead of incite a flame war??? Vaca musta done me good) but I too remember a time when it was asked 'who is this Tom Hoppe guy and where did he come from?' at the 1st ProSolo he attended.
No one heard of him... and he beat some of the best drivers... after only auto-xing also for about a year. So, Karl & Toby just as well as could put the hurt on Tom and all of us becuase they all started around the same time.
What it comes down to is this: [I]we do this (auto-x) for FUN.[/I] Sometimes things get said and what we read weren't as intended when typed. Welcome to das internetten.
Let's not start a fight over this... it's only talk, and at Nats, all head out to have some BEER. Mmmkay? :D
--kC
(And just like last year, I'm not the one with the "Target on my back" like Mike has this year :lol: )
Let cooler heads prevail, mmmkay?
It was pointed out to Tom what he said was a bit over the top.... hopefully we can all leave it at that. (What's this... me trying to stop instead of incite a flame war??? Vaca musta done me good) but I too remember a time when it was asked 'who is this Tom Hoppe guy and where did he come from?' at the 1st ProSolo he attended.
No one heard of him... and he beat some of the best drivers... after only auto-xing also for about a year. So, Karl & Toby just as well as could put the hurt on Tom and all of us becuase they all started around the same time.
What it comes down to is this: [I]we do this (auto-x) for FUN.[/I] Sometimes things get said and what we read weren't as intended when typed. Welcome to das internetten.
Let's not start a fight over this... it's only talk, and at Nats, all head out to have some BEER. Mmmkay? :D
--kC
(And just like last year, I'm not the one with the "Target on my back" like Mike has this year :lol: )
| MNbiker | 08-11-2004 11:00 AM |
[QUOTE=KC](And just like last year, I'm not the one with the "Target on my back" like Mike has this year :lol: )[/QUOTE]
So, who'd you have to pay off for the SportsCar "kryptonite"? ;)
-Steve
So, who'd you have to pay off for the SportsCar "kryptonite"? ;)
-Steve
| trhoppe | 08-11-2004 11:18 AM |
:lol: :lol:
[quote]And as you know nothing about Karl or Toby (and act as if you don't even care to cuz you are just soooooooo good), you just might end up eating your words[/quote]
Thats what I said "Who the hell are those guys"?? makafoto and you explained that :confused: Whats the problem?
If I eat my words great, I don't care. I'm having fun :)
[quote], a bit of history about Karl. snip You are selling him too short, and any general knows NOT to understimate an opponent.[/quote] Well looks like you made a good argument to not sell him short. You did a good job answering my 1st question. As fas as underestimating opponents. I just don't care. This sport is not about oponents, its about you. It all depeneds on how you drive that day and not about who your opponents are :)
[quote]But we NEVER talked like you are doing!!!! And I wonder how you took it when you first started to come out, and someone might have had that very same attitude towards you?[/quote] Well thats too bad. I really enjoy **** talking and I have fun doing it. I guess I'll put more ;) and :) and :lol: next time then since the 1 :lol: wasn't enough. I took it as an incentive for me to go faster when people had that attitude for me. Sort of a "oh yea? I'll show you who is faster beooootch" :)
-Tom
**** talker
[quote]And as you know nothing about Karl or Toby (and act as if you don't even care to cuz you are just soooooooo good), you just might end up eating your words[/quote]
Thats what I said "Who the hell are those guys"?? makafoto and you explained that :confused: Whats the problem?
If I eat my words great, I don't care. I'm having fun :)
[quote], a bit of history about Karl. snip You are selling him too short, and any general knows NOT to understimate an opponent.[/quote] Well looks like you made a good argument to not sell him short. You did a good job answering my 1st question. As fas as underestimating opponents. I just don't care. This sport is not about oponents, its about you. It all depeneds on how you drive that day and not about who your opponents are :)
[quote]But we NEVER talked like you are doing!!!! And I wonder how you took it when you first started to come out, and someone might have had that very same attitude towards you?[/quote] Well thats too bad. I really enjoy **** talking and I have fun doing it. I guess I'll put more ;) and :) and :lol: next time then since the 1 :lol: wasn't enough. I took it as an incentive for me to go faster when people had that attitude for me. Sort of a "oh yea? I'll show you who is faster beooootch" :)
-Tom
**** talker
| KC | 08-11-2004 11:21 AM |
[QUOTE=MNbiker]So, who'd you have to pay off for the SportsCar "kryptonite"? ;)
-Steve[/QUOTE]
Ain't tellin! Superman doesn't want his cover blown... but the article did a good job! :D
-Steve[/QUOTE]
Ain't tellin! Superman doesn't want his cover blown... but the article did a good job! :D
| trhoppe | 08-11-2004 11:21 AM |
[quote]Take that, you Cajun redneck![/quote]
You forgot pollack ;)
[quote]Thank goodness there are still cool guys like KC around.[/quote]
Tom <3's KC <leghump>
-Tom
You forgot pollack ;)
[quote]Thank goodness there are still cool guys like KC around.[/quote]
Tom <3's KC <leghump>
-Tom
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