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The FIX! 05 STi clusters into 02-03s (possibly 04s) part 3

Norrberrt 09-19-2008 01:58 PM

[QUOTE=wrxwhip;17998749]Is the b28 wire on an 05 cluster yellow/green. I'm not sure which wire to cut to prevent fuses from blowing. In the picture in the top of the cluster, do I just cut the wire that matches with the pin listed in the pic of the 05 cluster, because I am pretty sure that wire isn't yellow/green. Let me know. Thanks.

Cliff[/QUOTE]

.. the wires you need to cut B28 and A9 are located on your OEM plug.. which is behind your cluster.. oce you remove the cluster you will see the wires/plugs there are 3 plugs.. do not touch the middle wire.. the left plug is where B28 is located[green/yellow].. and youre far right plug is where A9 is located[orange/white].. on your left plug make sure you do not cut the red/white wire.. i made that mistake yesterday.. i thought it was orange/white.. but follow the picturs.. where the needled are located.. have a lashlight in handy.. i did this in my garage with he sun out.. and sure enough i still cut the wrong one.. but all is working well.. all fixed

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zGb 03-23-2009 06:56 AM

Hi all! This is my 1st post here even if i watch this forum for a long time so here we go...i have an edm 06 wrx and i recently bought a totaled edm 06 sti...i will make full swap on my wrx including full transmission /w dccd brakes rims interior etc...and i don't know exactly what to do about the instrument cluster...i want my dccd to work as well...if anyone has any idea i will REALLY apreciate it. I was thinking to get the sti computer/ecu to put it in my car so the water pump will work automatically as well. Really need some advices. Thanks!
zGb 03-24-2009 09:25 AM

[quote=zGb;26052094]Hi all! This is my 1st post here even if i watch this forum for a long time so here we go...i have an edm 06 wrx and i recently bought a totaled edm 06 sti...i will make full swap on my wrx including full transmission /w dccd brakes rims interior etc...and i don't know exactly what to do about the instrument cluster...i want my dccd to work as well...if anyone has any idea i will REALLY apreciate it. I was thinking to get the sti computer/ecu to put it in my car so the water pump will work automatically as well. Really need some advices. Thanks![/quote]

anyone
Chapel 03-24-2009 11:27 PM

<shrug> this is mainly for the US market cars.
JSA 05-15-2009 04:10 AM

do you have to cut both A9/B28 or just the 28 on the 04 STi cluster? I blew a fuse. Not too worried but just wanted some verification. Thnx
JSA 05-15-2009 03:44 PM

bump.
broosewee 05-15-2009 03:53 PM

I just installed an 05 cluster in my 02. I did cut the A9 wire, but not the B28 (gray/yellow looks similar to green/yellow at dusk....) and I was blowing fuses. I cut the B28 wire and voil�... stereo and clock worked perfectly. I'd say only B28.
JSA 05-15-2009 03:59 PM

I was thinking that too
mems3 05-15-2009 06:13 PM

07 to 02 RS b28 and thats it!
ShaneInHisRoom 05-22-2009 09:36 AM

I have an 05 STi cluster going into an 03 WRX...I keep seeing I have to cut the C9 (the connector with 2 rows of pins) wire...so is it the C9 wire, ,or the A9 wire?

[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1458180&page=16[/url]

see diagram for reference...everyone has been telling me to cut C9? Has anyone here had 05 STi go into 03 WRX that cut C9 instead of A9?
tony1w 05-26-2009 07:42 AM

[quote=Chris05STi;23760662]I also did shave that middle nub down long ago. My main problem is that the two guide grooves that on the plug, they are not as wide as the channels for the plug to go in the cluster. Anyone else have this problem? I will take pics to show later on.[/quote]

Okay, it is very simple for an 05 STi cluster going into a 03 WRX.

the LEFT (driver side) of the 3 harnesses is the Major issue.

The STi cluster is wider than the harness on the WRX side (2 extra pins)

What need to be done to that LEFT side.
1, do not file off tab on the STI cluster.
2, match up that tab on the STI cluster with the WRX harness
notice that when you line up that center tab, two other tabs will match up as well. That leaves two tabs that dont match up.
3, Cut those two tabs that dont match. Now the harness will slide in.
4, Dont worry about those 2 extra pins.

It works well with my car.
Nitrousspeed 05-26-2009 04:27 PM

04 STI Cluster into an 02 WRX
OK, So I just purchased a [B]2004 STI gauge[/B] cluster to install into my [B]2002 WRX[/B]. Running kind of short on time with finals week in school and was hoping somebody could just answer my question real quick instead of reading through the pages of info. I know I have to cut some wire, which one is it? If you can, PLEASE TAKE PIX!

Thank you so much for helping me out!
Chapel 05-26-2009 07:37 PM

nevermind. I'm an ass.
I think the 04 > 02 clusters bolt right in and you cut the wire that pops the fuse (in first post)
RossLH 05-26-2009 07:39 PM

[quote=Chapel;26855257]I TOOK PICS!
READ THE FIRST POST!
It's SPECIFICALLY done using an 04 STI gauge cluster and an 02 WRX!
I took macro photos of the wires that need cutting!

ARGH![/quote]

The first post is specifically done using an '05 STi cluster. The '04 should be plug and play.

EDIT: NINJA EDITED!

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Chapel 05-26-2009 09:31 PM

aha!
I figured someone was gonna see that! damnit!

well, either way. I'm grouchy
skate enjoi 05-26-2009 10:42 PM

Im having problems with my swap... I cut both wires and have everything working but it seems like the entire left side of my cluster. My left turn signal light doesnt flash at all, my engine temp light doesnt work and my fuel gauge doesnt work... anyone, anything?
broosewee 05-28-2009 01:23 AM

[quote=skate enjoi;26857544]Im having problems with my swap... I cut both wires and have everything working but it seems like the entire left side of my cluster. My left turn signal light doesnt flash at all, my engine temp light doesnt work and my fuel gauge doesnt work... anyone, anything?[/quote]

I would venture to guess that the plug on the left side is not completely in, or it's plugged incorrectly. I think.

On a side note, my 05 cluster doesn't beep (like it's [not] supposed to), does anybody know how to get around this?
Mythos 05-28-2009 03:17 AM

Hi there, has someone found a solution for the handbrake-problem "Rice Devil" discribed in Post #21?

Got a 05STI cluster in my 04WRX and the handbrake light stays on.
alexxxphilly 06-09-2009 10:54 PM

Hey guys. there are 2000000 pages on this topic. so i just need a simple answer lol

my speedo dnt work. i need a new one
i have a 2002 wrx.
can i buy a 204-5 impreza speedometer? and just plug it and thats all? or i gotta do mods to it?
i found one with almost the same miles and cheap. let me know
ShaneInHisRoom 06-10-2009 09:39 AM

^? What? There are 6 pages. If you get the impreza speedometer, get the WRX one...that will be plug and play. This thread is for the STi clusters...
hoffmanEstates 06-10-2009 09:10 PM

i wonder if i put a sti cluster in my car, and try to sell it for less mileage then it really has......hmmmm
DanWRX 06-10-2009 09:24 PM

[quote=hoffmanEstates;27034709]i wonder if i put a sti cluster in my car, and try to sell it for less mileage then it really has......hmmmm[/quote]

1. post quoted
2. that's illegal
3. that's unethical
4. you're a douchebag
:unamused:
boostin23 01-10-2010 02:18 AM

bump going to try this tomorrow

anyone have a link on how to get the outside temp working on the cluster? :about to do a search for it lol:
25rsti 01-10-2010 09:01 AM

no, no link from me, but you need the sensor and wire it up properly to do so
boostin23 01-10-2010 12:49 PM

ya no sensor for me... yet anyways haha.


but i read other threads for this 05STi cluster into a 02 wrx (exactly what im doing) and they follow these instructions but the brake light is still always on. Any fix for that?
Gutantag 01-10-2010 02:12 PM

I have a JDM v8 (04) Sti Cluster that I installed in my 02 wrx, and everything went fine following the instructions mentioned (cutting the B28 wire): However, my speedometer, tach, and engine temp gauges all start in completely the wrong place. So when I start the car, the speedometer is sitting around 140kph, the tach is sitting at 8500 rpm, and the engine temp is sitting at the High. As the car warms up and I drive, the temp gauge moves the correct amount, the speedometer moves about the right amount (but from like 140 to 160, etc, the tach moves from 8500 to the black part below.. it's crazy! But the amount the needles move seems correct, it's just they're all starting in the wrong place.

Anyone experienced this? It's supposed to be plug and go, and I've read numerous forum postings, but never read about anything like this.
boostin23 01-10-2010 06:12 PM

[B][SIZE=5][COLOR=red]...DID IT...[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B]
[COLOR=black][/COLOR]
So i just installed a 05 STi cluster into my 02 wrx sedan.

I cut the two wires that were mentioned in the OP (B28 (yellow/green) on the main [biggest] plug in the car, as well as A9 (orange/white) on the [smallest] plug on the right side)

[B]However, I DID NOT[/B] shave the tab off of the left side plug. Instead I did what was said below...
[quote=tony1w;26846926]Okay, it is very simple for an 05 STi cluster going into a 03 WRX.

the LEFT (driver side) of the 3 harnesses is the Major issue.

The STi cluster is thicker than the harness on the WRX side (2 extra pins)

What need to be done to that LEFT side.
1, do not file off tab on the STI cluster.
2, match up that tab on the STI cluster with the WRX harness
notice that when you line up that center tab, two other tabs will match up as well. That leaves two tabs that dont match up.
3, Cut those two tabs that dont match. Now the harness will slide in.
4, Dont worry about those 2 extra pins.

It works well with my car.[/quote]
sounds a bit confusing but once you're there, it all makes sense.

and i also got to set the beep on/off AND the brightness of the cluster by following this: (edited the below quote for spelling and making it an easier read lol)
[quote=Disaster646;23021268] idk why u guys keep saying the buzzer doesnt work.. for the shift light.. if it does.... i cut the two wires said on this thread.. but i still have the shift light beeping... u can turn the beeping off and on.. all u have to do is.. with the left stick to set ur rev.. u put it on ur desired rpm.. and then wait a few secs.. keep looking at where the outside temperature appears.. and u can see the rpm the light will go on.. but after the number clears.. u can see two lines like this (--) if u more the stick again.. u can see the on.. or off will appear as the two lil lines.. if u put it on the ON position u will hear the shift beeping... i tried turning it off and it works too..

u can adjust the illumination brightness.. if u press the trip stick 3 times.. then u can see the 5 settings of brightness u can choose from.. 5 being the brightest.. u have to use the rev stick to choose from 1-5.. other than that.. the cluster kicks as$[/quote]

I did put black tape under the cluster to block out the DCCD, Rear diff temp ect..

Only thing that ive seen is the break light is always on. Trying to work with other members to see if that can be taken care of.
Jncominco2 01-10-2010 06:21 PM

are you talking about the ABS light? you can supposedly fix that with a relay. im going to be trying to do it here soon

and thank you for the info on the beeper, it was really bugging me that mine wouldnt work. but now it does!
boostin23 01-11-2010 03:15 AM

Well in my previous post i was talking about the E-brake light. I said that before I actually went out for a drive. My ebrake light DOES turn off when i release the brake. I was asking tho because in previous posts in here it ppl complain about it and i know someone who just did this swap and their ebrake light stays on..


But on a side note..

Now i cant seem to get my fogs to turn on.. Theres a green light in the upper rightish hand corner that looks like a fog light symbol and its on. But i also have HIDs. Before I put in the cluster once in a while my fogs wouldnt turn on so i would just turn the fog switch off and turn my lights off, then turn everythign back on and they would work.

Well now they wont turn on at all. Anyone have any thoughts on that?
Jncominco2 01-11-2010 09:17 AM

that symbol isnt the fog symbol, its just a light symbol saying your lights are on (or at least thats the only time it comes on for me)
if your lights were only coming on some times, sounds like your fog switch may be bad
boostin23 01-11-2010 12:50 PM

hmm might look at the switch then. It is kinda weird tho that they dont come on at all now that i put the cluster in tho :o
Jncominco2 01-11-2010 01:50 PM

cluster shouldnt have anything to do with it unless it somehow blew a fuse
fredtga 01-11-2010 02:13 PM

Just to chip in to this great thread : best sti cluster swap for a bugeye is the 2004 STi one.
I just finished my swap : I have an 02 wrx and installed an 04 STi cluster.
The only thing i had to do is cut the B28 wire and that's it, nothing else.
- all 3 wrx plugs must be rotated 180 deg in order to plug into the cluster
- no tabs need to be shaved, plugs slide in with no issue
- cut B28 wire
- based on my search, looks like 2004 STi clusters have the same polarity for ABS as the wrx ones, so the ABS light works right
- i grounded the pin for the diff temp sensor, so the light in the cluster goes off
- i have a 6speed swap in my bugeye with spiider's deluxe controller, i wired in the dccd and all works perfect

- outside temp does not work since i don't have the sensor...
ScoobyDrooler 01-11-2010 03:17 PM

I'm parting an 05 STi for a friend and picked up the cluster and steering wheel for my 04 wrx... so Hopefully I can get this done... after all the reading doesn't sound too hard.
boostin23 01-11-2010 03:59 PM

[quote=Jncominco2;29366174]cluster shouldnt have anything to do with it unless it somehow blew a fuse[/quote]
Ya i should check my fuses. Not sure why it would blow one but worth a look
boostin23 01-12-2010 12:39 AM

Well my fuses are all good. My switch is good.

We used a volt meter inside the car at the switch and it gets power. Then went and unplugged a fog light and something weird is happening. Right when the lights get turned on at the switch, the meter reads voltage at the light, but then it goes to zero... not sure whats going on with that
Jncominco2 01-12-2010 12:44 AM

possible short
boostin23 01-12-2010 03:08 AM

fun part is finding out where/why lol
xcrament 01-12-2010 07:26 AM

[quote=fredtga;29366523]Just to chip in to this great thread : best sti cluster swap for a bugeye is the 2004 STi one.
I just finished my swap : I have an 02 wrx and installed an 04 STi cluster.
The only thing i had to do is cut the B28 wire and that's it, nothing else.
- all 3 wrx plugs must be rotated 180 deg in order to plug into the cluster
- no tabs need to be shaved, plugs slide in with no issue
- cut B28 wire
- based on my search, looks like 2004 STi clusters have the same polarity for ABS as the wrx ones, so the ABS light works right
- i grounded the pin for the diff temp sensor, so the light in the cluster goes off
- i have a 6speed swap in my bugeye with spiider's deluxe controller, i wired in the dccd and all works perfect

- outside temp does not work since i don't have the sensor...[/quote]

good to know! i am about to do the same swap but i did get the sensor
Jncominco2 01-12-2010 11:15 AM

[quote=xcrament;29375432]good to know! i am about to do the same swap but i did get the sensor[/quote]

you need the auto HVAC as well from what i have read. just an FYI
ScoobyDrooler 01-12-2010 01:32 PM

I managed to get my cluster installed last night.

Cliped the wires for the stereo fix and buzzer fix and it works...

however the ABS and rear diff lights are on (as to be expected) but the e-brake light is on too?

and now the horn doesn't work?

I havn't hooked up the cruise yet as I used the 04 clockspring and the plugs are different because the 05+ has the on/off for the cruise on the wheel not the dash like in the 04's.

I did have to shave a couple guides on the plug with two rows of pins to get it in as others have found.
indytruckboy 02-07-2010 06:55 AM

[quote=fredtga;29366523]Just to chip in to this great thread : best sti cluster swap for a bugeye is the 2004 STi one.
I just finished my swap : I have an 02 wrx and installed an 04 STi cluster.
The only thing i had to do is cut the B28 wire and that's it, nothing else.
- all 3 wrx plugs must be rotated 180 deg in order to plug into the cluster
- no tabs need to be shaved, plugs slide in with no issue
- cut B28 wire
- based on my search, looks like 2004 STi clusters have the same polarity for ABS as the wrx ones, so the ABS light works right
- i grounded the pin for the diff temp sensor, so the light in the cluster goes off
- i have a 6speed swap in my bugeye with spiider's deluxe controller, i wired in the dccd and all works perfect

- outside temp does not work since i don't have the sensor...[/quote]Does the cruise control work?
maxpowr 03-27-2010 11:31 PM

subcribd.
Disaster646 03-28-2010 02:36 PM

i did this mod to my 02 wrx.. with the 05 sti cluster.. .. i still get to use the beeping sound for the shift light.. everything works great.. i only cut the two wires mentioned in this thread. and i dont remember connecting them to anything just cutting them. and shaving the plug so it would fit.. and problem solved.. light and everything works except the dimming from the turning signal handle.. but u can still lower the brightness from the cluster itself.. and also adjust the beeping for the shift light from there.. also u have to tape the abs/ and differential temp light. and i think thats it..
elarson1423 04-07-2010 12:50 PM

I just did this as well last night, one of the easiest mods I've done. Thought it would be a lot more involved.

Cut the 2 wires mentioned in the OP. I left mine just cut and taped apart; if I ever want to reconnect my factory cluster I can crimp on some quick disconnects or throw in a butt connector at that point in time. As a minor point of clarification, the wire to cut from the center plug is yellow with a green stripe, or Yl/Grn. It is shown in the diagram as Grn/Yl, so I was hunting around for a green wire with a yellow stripe. The pic shows the right wire though, and the location is correct.

On the driver side harness plug I shaved off 2 tabs, and left the STi cluster intact. If you look closely at the driver side plug and socket on the STi harness, you'll see that the slot on the center of the plug lines up with the spline on the cluster, but on the cluster it is offset to one side. Try to plug it in and you'll see which splines on the plug need to be trimmed. Everything plugged in ok, just had to flip over the plugs. Made for a slightly tighter fit, but nothing hard to deal with. Plug in the left (driver) side first, then the center, then the right (pass).

Tape under the velvety STi overlay for the ABS and rear diff temp lights works fine, but the corner of the ABS tape I put on covers a tiny bit of the battery light, only noticable when the car isn't running. I might fix that today, but doesn't bother me that much. Someone mentioned using tweezers to put in the electrical tape, and that works really well. Just gently pull up the overlay, it will make a popping noise, insert the tape, and press it back down. Voila, lights covered, and overlay will stay firmly in place. Must be temporary adhesive down there or something.

I'll drive the car today and find out if the cruise control works. I can't think of a reason why it wouldn't though. I think the CC reads the speed from the sensor directly, not from what the speedometer gauge output says.

The shift light and buzzer work, gauge sweep works, radio works, I'm a happy camper. Let me know if you want me to take anything apart and take pictures, its pretty freaking easy. MAYBE 5 minutes to get it out and back in, an extra 5 if I take the cluster apart to work on the electrical tape.
broosewee 04-07-2010 12:57 PM

Dang, i wish i had the buzzer. That's the only thing that doesn't work on my 05 cluster.
elarson1423 04-07-2010 01:16 PM

You have to turn on the buzzer. Read back in the pages here, someone explains how to do it. It won't work unless you actually enable it.
broosewee 04-07-2010 01:27 PM

I remember that, and I did enable it. Still doesn't work though.
Chris05STi 04-07-2010 02:20 PM

You guys sending in the clusters to that place to get the mileage to the correct number?
broosewee 04-07-2010 02:32 PM

[quote=Chris05STi;30328757]You guys sending in the clusters to that place to get the mileage to the correct number?[/quote]

Not until I need to. I've already recorded my actual mileage, so the cluster mileage makes no difference. Except during inspection, which sucks, but no big deal for me.
elarson1423 04-07-2010 02:44 PM

Hm. I'll set my shift alert to a low rpm today when I go for a drive, see if it works.
broosewee 04-07-2010 03:06 PM

Cool, I'll try again too. I haven't messed with it since I installed it last year - I think.
02RexWI 04-07-2010 03:30 PM

[quote=elarson1423;30327429]I just did this as well last night, one of the easiest mods I've done. Thought it would be a lot more involved.

Cut the 2 wires mentioned in the OP. I left mine just cut and taped apart; if I ever want to reconnect my factory cluster I can crimp on some quick disconnects or throw in a butt connector at that point in time. As a minor point of clarification, the wire to cut from the center plug is yellow with a green stripe, or Yl/Grn. It is shown in the diagram as Grn/Yl, so I was hunting around for a green wire with a yellow stripe. The pic shows the right wire though, and the location is correct.

On the driver side harness plug I shaved off 2 tabs, and left the STi cluster intact. If you look closely at the driver side plug and socket on the STi harness, you'll see that the slot on the center of the plug lines up with the spline on the cluster, but on the cluster it is offset to one side. Try to plug it in and you'll see which splines on the plug need to be trimmed. Everything plugged in ok, just had to flip over the plugs. Made for a slightly tighter fit, but nothing hard to deal with. Plug in the left (driver) side first, then the center, then the right (pass).

Tape under the velvety STi overlay for the ABS and rear diff temp lights works fine, but the corner of the ABS tape I put on covers a tiny bit of the battery light, only noticable when the car isn't running. I might fix that today, but doesn't bother me that much. Someone mentioned using tweezers to put in the electrical tape, and that works really well. Just gently pull up the overlay, it will make a popping noise, insert the tape, and press it back down. Voila, lights covered, and overlay will stay firmly in place. Must be temporary adhesive down there or something.

I'll drive the car today and find out if the cruise control works. I can't think of a reason why it wouldn't though. I think the CC reads the speed from the sensor directly, not from what the speedometer gauge output says.

The shift light and buzzer work, gauge sweep works, radio works, I'm a happy camper. Let me know if you want me to take anything apart and take pictures, its pretty freaking easy. MAYBE 5 minutes to get it out and back in, an extra 5 if I take the cluster apart to work on the electrical tape.[/quote]
Was this an 05' cluster into an 03'?
elarson1423 04-07-2010 04:27 PM

Yeah, sorry, I had written that on my original reply, then accidentally hit the back button and lost everything I typed. 05 STi cluster into an 03 WRX.

I lowered my shift buzzer to 3k, and it worked fine. Buzzed at me and the light went off. Just turn the left knob clockwise until it beeps, then turn it C to raise it, CC to lower it until you get to the rpm you want. Hint: the outside temp box shows your selected rpm/100. If the needle is at 3000, then the temp display shows 30. Once you get it where you want it, let go of the knob until it beeps, then turn it clockwise so the outside temp box shows "on". Turning it counter-clockwise will show --, or off. Let go once again, it'll beep, and then the tach needle drops to its resting position. BTW, do this with the car on, but not running.
broosewee 04-07-2010 04:29 PM

Yea, really, I've tried it all man. I have an 02 though, perhaps there was something a little different about an 03 stock cluster wiring?
elarson1423 04-07-2010 05:54 PM

Could be, but I thought that the 02 and 03 had the same wiring. Might just be something wrong with your cluster.
broosewee 04-07-2010 09:41 PM

Could be that too, but I thought the buzzer just doesn't work on some model year combinations. Everything else works as expected though, so I can't complain. :)
Disaster646 04-07-2010 10:53 PM

[quote=broosewee;30333925]Could be that too, but I thought the buzzer just doesn't work on some model year combinations. Everything else works as expected though, so I can't complain. :)[/quote]

ha my buzzer does work.. but i never use it anymore.. everytime i disconnect my battery when i work on my car.. the buzzer resets. .and unless i turn it back on it wont beep.. i actually forgot about my buzzer till i read post from this subscribed thread..lol i'll probably turn it on tomorrow before i go to work if i dont forget..:lol:
broosewee 04-07-2010 10:57 PM

haha, yea, i figured the buzzer isn't really necessary. Although I prefer an audible alert vs. visual when driving to the limits. Which I don't do 99% of the time.
Disaster646 04-07-2010 11:20 PM

[quote=broosewee;30334740]haha, yea, i figured the buzzer isn't really necessary. Although I prefer an audible alert vs. visual when driving to the limits. Which I don't do 99% of the time.[/quote]

damn.. no wonder y im always working on my car.. i see redline everyday..:lol:, i think the buzzer is good.. but i got too many gauges already to look at plus a shift light?.. nah i'll pass on that.. and i cant hear the beeping with my ewg anyways..lol

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