| IXLR8 | 01-20-2003 02:41 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by johnfelstead [/i]
[B]That's a little tricky now, as they have banned the use of videos.[/B][/QUOTE]
If you've mentioned this previously, sorry, but what's the rationale behind the ban?
With less video, more people will want to do the real thing instead of the virtual one and revenues will increase?!@# Can't figure that one...
[B]That's a little tricky now, as they have banned the use of videos.[/B][/QUOTE]
If you've mentioned this previously, sorry, but what's the rationale behind the ban?
With less video, more people will want to do the real thing instead of the virtual one and revenues will increase?!@# Can't figure that one...
| Dussander | 01-20-2003 03:48 PM |
<snip>
[QUOTE]the Ring had banned car cams because someone had posted a video of a fatal accident on the net.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]the Ring had banned car cams because someone had posted a video of a fatal accident on the net.[/QUOTE]
| IXLR8 | 01-20-2003 04:11 PM |
Got it. Thanks
| johnfelstead | 01-20-2003 07:41 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Subie Gal [/i]
[B]
Q - how to shut subie gal up?
A - put her in a car w/JF at Donno....
i was so intensified by the experience... for once... i had nothing to say... :lol:
J. [/B][/QUOTE]
The car that shut Jamie up (although the ocasional woohoooooo down craner curves was still going on :lol: )
[IMG]http://www.btinternet.com/~john.felstead/scoobynet/westie.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.btinternet.com/~john.felstead/scoobynet/DCP02557.JPG[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.btinternet.com/~john.felstead/scoobynet/knickerbrook.JPG[/IMG]
That's my Westfield ZEi220, all 330BHP cosworth turbo powered 700Kg rocket ship of it. What an awesome car. That day was huge fun Jamie, never forget the "oh my god" :eek: you had first run down craner curves. :D
[B]
Q - how to shut subie gal up?
A - put her in a car w/JF at Donno....
i was so intensified by the experience... for once... i had nothing to say... :lol:
J. [/B][/QUOTE]
The car that shut Jamie up (although the ocasional woohoooooo down craner curves was still going on :lol: )
[IMG]http://www.btinternet.com/~john.felstead/scoobynet/westie.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.btinternet.com/~john.felstead/scoobynet/DCP02557.JPG[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.btinternet.com/~john.felstead/scoobynet/knickerbrook.JPG[/IMG]
That's my Westfield ZEi220, all 330BHP cosworth turbo powered 700Kg rocket ship of it. What an awesome car. That day was huge fun Jamie, never forget the "oh my god" :eek: you had first run down craner curves. :D
| Andrew Bacon | 01-20-2003 07:50 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by johnfelstead [/i]
[B].....That's my Westfield ZEi220, all 330BHP cosworth turbo powered 700Kg rocket ship of it. What an awesome car. That day was huge fun Jamie, never forget the "oh my god" :eek: you had first run down craner curves. :D [/B][/QUOTE]
Gawd, that is unwholly! :D Dontcha have collision standards in the UK?!? :lol:
[B].....That's my Westfield ZEi220, all 330BHP cosworth turbo powered 700Kg rocket ship of it. What an awesome car. That day was huge fun Jamie, never forget the "oh my god" :eek: you had first run down craner curves. :D [/B][/QUOTE]
Gawd, that is unwholly! :D Dontcha have collision standards in the UK?!? :lol:
| johnfelstead | 01-20-2003 07:58 PM |
funny you should say that! I killed that car in April 2002 by going under a land rover discovery at 60MPH. :eek:
I got out fine, although the car was banana shaped. Oh, the land rover had no rear suspension left either. :lol:
That is a very rare car, it was the first of 11 made, they came with 220BHP, i took mine upto 330BHP because it was too slow. :D It's curently being rebuilt into a new chassis. Believe it or not, that car passed all the European type aproval crash tests, it's very strong (thank god).
I got out fine, although the car was banana shaped. Oh, the land rover had no rear suspension left either. :lol:
That is a very rare car, it was the first of 11 made, they came with 220BHP, i took mine upto 330BHP because it was too slow. :D It's curently being rebuilt into a new chassis. Believe it or not, that car passed all the European type aproval crash tests, it's very strong (thank god).
| Arnie | 01-20-2003 07:59 PM |
Hey John, think you could break into the 7's at the Ring if you still had the Westie? Yikes, never knew it had that much horsepower. Scary.
| johnfelstead | 01-20-2003 08:07 PM |
oh yeh, no problem at all. I have a video of me doing an 8:10 lap back when i had only driven 30 laps, 7:30 would be posible now i think.
The video is good fun, filmed by a friend of mine from his Yamaha R1 superbike as he follows me. Sadly Joerund was killed at the ring last year, so we never had a chance to do the same thing with my Impreza. He was a great guy, filmed every lap he rode there. The video of Joerund and I has had over 18,000 downloads, it's a very popular ring video.
The video is good fun, filmed by a friend of mine from his Yamaha R1 superbike as he follows me. Sadly Joerund was killed at the ring last year, so we never had a chance to do the same thing with my Impreza. He was a great guy, filmed every lap he rode there. The video of Joerund and I has had over 18,000 downloads, it's a very popular ring video.
| Arnie | 01-20-2003 08:17 PM |
yeah, I remeber you mentioning that last year. Very sad. It certainly puts it into perspective as to how dangerous the Ring and just doing some track days can be.
| Kostamojen | 01-21-2003 02:15 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Arnie [/i]
Kostamojen, you make it sound like John made these videos just to teach you how to drive and now that you've seen one video you're disappointed that it doesn't give you step by step input on how to drive. This video "didn't help much..."? What the heck are you going on about? Who is it supposed to help?[/quote]
I didnt get to see the cockpit view til yesterday, and I didnt get a chance to come online and respond either. I was talking about the "doormirror" view. You pretty much just see the track and nothing else... But thats ok, it has a better sense of speed to it. That cockpit view vid was great though, and all I wanted in the first place. Thanks again Casey. (80mb is physically impossible for me to download, I'm sorry about that and I dont have a choice in the matter)
[quote]Why is everyone taking you so seriously and not just ingnoring you? Good question. Perhaps its because you are being such an A$$ in front of god and everyone and it doesn't seem like you even see that. Just need to point it out. I dunno, I just don't understand how you can be so obnoxious and disrespectful on this thread.[/QUOTE]
Maybe cause Ive been getting home from work at ~1am and going straight online a little tired and cranky? :p I dont know... I also dont understand why everyone here seems to think that this is like my first post ever and im some sort of troll :confused: Oh well... Ill just stay out of this forum then...
It could also be that I've done video editing myself, and spent alot of time compressing vids so that I could host them, and amazed that anyone could even get several 80mb vids hosted :lol:
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by johnfelstead [/i]
You just dont get it do you? I am anoyed by your tone, because like too many people these days, you moan about something not being 100% perfect for YOU and you completely forget that maybe other people are getting something positive.[/quote]
I guess i'm the only one still on a modem :(
[quote]If you dont understand the concept of a freebie, i.e. it costs you nothing, then you've lost me there too. The cost to me isnt an issue, if it was a problem i wouldnt be putting these on the net at all. I put these vids up so people can enjoy them, not to allow myself to feel estatic, as you put it.[/quote]
$25 a month for internet service, $2500 for a computer... Its not free. And putting them up so folks can enjoy them is exactly what I meant... I thought... Maybe I'm just not typing well right now? I dont get it either...
[quote]I am in the middle of making a comercial video, the idea for that came from the reception my videos on here plus other websites have received. This is a big investment of time from both myself and a profesional TV producer. I hope that is something extra special and gives an insight into driving at the ring you dont get from anything else on the market. We shall see.[/quote]
BTW, i'm sure you know that most commercial vids are released as small, low-quality files or short clips as free samples, so that you just get a taste of the full vids.
Your just making some vids for fun with good editing, and can afford to do so... which along with the fact you get to even go to the nuremberg, makes us all jelous of course :p
And yes, thanks for making vids of this! They are good vids with good quality (.wmv compression does not ruin the vids at all)
Kostamojen, you make it sound like John made these videos just to teach you how to drive and now that you've seen one video you're disappointed that it doesn't give you step by step input on how to drive. This video "didn't help much..."? What the heck are you going on about? Who is it supposed to help?[/quote]
I didnt get to see the cockpit view til yesterday, and I didnt get a chance to come online and respond either. I was talking about the "doormirror" view. You pretty much just see the track and nothing else... But thats ok, it has a better sense of speed to it. That cockpit view vid was great though, and all I wanted in the first place. Thanks again Casey. (80mb is physically impossible for me to download, I'm sorry about that and I dont have a choice in the matter)
[quote]Why is everyone taking you so seriously and not just ingnoring you? Good question. Perhaps its because you are being such an A$$ in front of god and everyone and it doesn't seem like you even see that. Just need to point it out. I dunno, I just don't understand how you can be so obnoxious and disrespectful on this thread.[/QUOTE]
Maybe cause Ive been getting home from work at ~1am and going straight online a little tired and cranky? :p I dont know... I also dont understand why everyone here seems to think that this is like my first post ever and im some sort of troll :confused: Oh well... Ill just stay out of this forum then...
It could also be that I've done video editing myself, and spent alot of time compressing vids so that I could host them, and amazed that anyone could even get several 80mb vids hosted :lol:
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by johnfelstead [/i]
You just dont get it do you? I am anoyed by your tone, because like too many people these days, you moan about something not being 100% perfect for YOU and you completely forget that maybe other people are getting something positive.[/quote]
I guess i'm the only one still on a modem :(
[quote]If you dont understand the concept of a freebie, i.e. it costs you nothing, then you've lost me there too. The cost to me isnt an issue, if it was a problem i wouldnt be putting these on the net at all. I put these vids up so people can enjoy them, not to allow myself to feel estatic, as you put it.[/quote]
$25 a month for internet service, $2500 for a computer... Its not free. And putting them up so folks can enjoy them is exactly what I meant... I thought... Maybe I'm just not typing well right now? I dont get it either...
[quote]I am in the middle of making a comercial video, the idea for that came from the reception my videos on here plus other websites have received. This is a big investment of time from both myself and a profesional TV producer. I hope that is something extra special and gives an insight into driving at the ring you dont get from anything else on the market. We shall see.[/quote]
BTW, i'm sure you know that most commercial vids are released as small, low-quality files or short clips as free samples, so that you just get a taste of the full vids.
Your just making some vids for fun with good editing, and can afford to do so... which along with the fact you get to even go to the nuremberg, makes us all jelous of course :p
And yes, thanks for making vids of this! They are good vids with good quality (.wmv compression does not ruin the vids at all)
| skope | 01-21-2003 03:01 AM |
I'm on dialup and I downloaded them. And I can only usually only connect at around 24k. Just use a program like GetRight and resume downloads. I just let it run overnight and got them one at a time.
| Kostamojen | 01-21-2003 03:56 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by skope [/i]
[B]I'm on dialup and I downloaded them. And I can only usually only connect at around 24k. Just use a program like GetRight and resume downloads. I just let it run overnight and got them one at a time. [/B][/QUOTE]
Got any links?
I usually let stuff run a little while overnight, but I usually loose some sleep cause of it (keep on waking up to check and see if it didnt disconnect, waking up from the HD noises, etc.)
[B]I'm on dialup and I downloaded them. And I can only usually only connect at around 24k. Just use a program like GetRight and resume downloads. I just let it run overnight and got them one at a time. [/B][/QUOTE]
Got any links?
I usually let stuff run a little while overnight, but I usually loose some sleep cause of it (keep on waking up to check and see if it didnt disconnect, waking up from the HD noises, etc.)
| skope | 01-21-2003 06:48 PM |
Well my service logs me out after 8 hours so it works out okay. The program I use can be found at: [URL]http://www.getright.com/[/URL]
| Kostamojen | 01-22-2003 03:58 AM |
Thanks
| whoobaru | 01-24-2003 09:20 PM |
Wow! I can't believe I missed this thread. Simply awesome videos John, thanks! BTW, when is the DVD going to be available?
| 4or2wheels | 01-25-2003 01:06 AM |
John, thanks for the vids. They are great...
Its a realistic feeling of speed you get with the helmet cam.
Its a realistic feeling of speed you get with the helmet cam.
| johnfelstead | 01-26-2003 05:40 PM |
my video release has been put back a few weeks as the producer got a last minute call to produce a new TV show for Dutch TV, so that had to take priority. When it's available i'll make sure you guys know.
| Drew888 | 01-28-2003 10:41 PM |
John,
For starters, thanks for some of the best reading (and viewing of vids) I have ever read here or on any Impreza website.
I was not thinking of upgrading my exhaust anytime soon but the sound of yours has changed my mind.
Would you happen to know of an exhaust I could buy that is close in sound to yours that's offered here in the states?
Thanks again for all your effort!
Drew
For starters, thanks for some of the best reading (and viewing of vids) I have ever read here or on any Impreza website.
I was not thinking of upgrading my exhaust anytime soon but the sound of yours has changed my mind.
Would you happen to know of an exhaust I could buy that is close in sound to yours that's offered here in the states?
Thanks again for all your effort!
Drew
| johnfelstead | 01-29-2003 08:00 AM |
Hi Drew, thanks.
My exhaust is a standard STi5 downpipe and centre resonator with a 3" stainless scoobymania backbox, mine was the prototype for scoobymania's new range.
You may be able to buy the system via Jamie at allsubaru.com? i know she is in contact with Mike at scoobymania, drop her a line on [email][email protected][/email].
If Jamie cant help then let me know and i'll have a word with Mike for you.
My exhaust is a standard STi5 downpipe and centre resonator with a 3" stainless scoobymania backbox, mine was the prototype for scoobymania's new range.
You may be able to buy the system via Jamie at allsubaru.com? i know she is in contact with Mike at scoobymania, drop her a line on [email][email protected][/email].
If Jamie cant help then let me know and i'll have a word with Mike for you.
| GDB | 02-02-2003 09:17 AM |
John,
Aren't 40psi front 39psi rear hot tire pressures a little on the high side? Or are they the norm for 'Ring setup?
Usually I (and my fellow trackies) run AT MOST low 30's psi (hot of course). I live in a hot climate but comparing hot to hot pressures takes it out of the equation altogether.
By the way, in the future could you possibly set the camera position a little higher, like so:
[url]http://www.geocities.com/yksimtoo/[/url]
Keep the videos coming!
Aren't 40psi front 39psi rear hot tire pressures a little on the high side? Or are they the norm for 'Ring setup?
Usually I (and my fellow trackies) run AT MOST low 30's psi (hot of course). I live in a hot climate but comparing hot to hot pressures takes it out of the equation altogether.
By the way, in the future could you possibly set the camera position a little higher, like so:
[url]http://www.geocities.com/yksimtoo/[/url]
Keep the videos coming!
| johnfelstead | 02-02-2003 09:25 AM |
not sure re the camera angle question? there are many diferent angles shown, are you just downloading the first videos? there are lots more in this thread.
30PSI Hot is way too low a tyre presure on an Impreza on track, you are going to destroy the sidewalls, chunk the treads with that. 40PSI hot gives the tyres a good chance of standing up to the sustained loadings they recieve on a track, for the road i run 34PSI, but on track with this the tyres are torn to pieces. I suggest you try my presures, they work much better.
These presures are for road tyres, not slicks.
30PSI Hot is way too low a tyre presure on an Impreza on track, you are going to destroy the sidewalls, chunk the treads with that. 40PSI hot gives the tyres a good chance of standing up to the sustained loadings they recieve on a track, for the road i run 34PSI, but on track with this the tyres are torn to pieces. I suggest you try my presures, they work much better.
These presures are for road tyres, not slicks.
| GDB | 02-02-2003 09:30 PM |
Yea I did notice that my tires are practically destroyed after only a few track days, but I thought that was normal.
After my last track day, the sidewalls were completely shaved.
For the record, I ran 28psi front, 30psi rear on Yokohama AVS Sport. As mentioned before, the sidewalls were gone. This was quite disappointing because when I was still running OEM RE040 the tires were relatively fine at those pressures.
Either the AVS' sidewalls are less stiff, or the car's mechanical grip has increased (due to recent mods), or I was driving harder than before.
Probably a little bit of all of the above...
I have tried higher pressures before, the grip didn't seem to be there :confused: IIRC my first laps were run at 38psi front 36psi rear, and I noticed that not the entire tire widths were scrubbing the tarmac. I then progressively reduced the pressures, until I arrived at a combo that "felt right".
Would never ever run 28psi on AVS in the future, it doesn't look 'healthy'.
Oh BTW yes I was referring to the very first video on the camera angle; the video made me feel like a dwarf :)
After my last track day, the sidewalls were completely shaved.
For the record, I ran 28psi front, 30psi rear on Yokohama AVS Sport. As mentioned before, the sidewalls were gone. This was quite disappointing because when I was still running OEM RE040 the tires were relatively fine at those pressures.
Either the AVS' sidewalls are less stiff, or the car's mechanical grip has increased (due to recent mods), or I was driving harder than before.
Probably a little bit of all of the above...
I have tried higher pressures before, the grip didn't seem to be there :confused: IIRC my first laps were run at 38psi front 36psi rear, and I noticed that not the entire tire widths were scrubbing the tarmac. I then progressively reduced the pressures, until I arrived at a combo that "felt right".
Would never ever run 28psi on AVS in the future, it doesn't look 'healthy'.
Oh BTW yes I was referring to the very first video on the camera angle; the video made me feel like a dwarf :)
| 4or2wheels | 02-03-2003 12:36 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by johnfelstead [/i]
[B]
The video is good fun, filmed by a friend of mine from his Yamaha R1 superbike as he follows me. Sadly Joerund was killed at the ring last year, so we never had a chance to do the same thing with my Impreza. He was a great guy, filmed every lap he rode there. The video of Joerund and I has had over 18,000 downloads, it's a very popular ring video. [/B][/QUOTE]
Jon, Is this video still available for download? If so where can I find it?
Thanks
Mitch
[B]
The video is good fun, filmed by a friend of mine from his Yamaha R1 superbike as he follows me. Sadly Joerund was killed at the ring last year, so we never had a chance to do the same thing with my Impreza. He was a great guy, filmed every lap he rode there. The video of Joerund and I has had over 18,000 downloads, it's a very popular ring video. [/B][/QUOTE]
Jon, Is this video still available for download? If so where can I find it?
Thanks
Mitch
| 4or2wheels | 02-03-2003 12:55 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by johnfelstead [/i]
[B]
40PSI hot gives the tyres a good chance of standing up to the sustained loadings they recieve on a track, for the road i run 34PSI, but on track with this the tyres are torn to pieces. I suggest you try my presures, they work much better.
These presures are for road tyres, not slicks. [/B][/QUOTE]
John,
I roadrace motorcycles and was led to believe that setting a tires pressure when cold was the proper way. From my understanding a tire when hot (after a few hots laps) should be about 10% higher than the cold pressure. If its less than 10% the tire has too high a pressure and conversley if the tire is over 10% the tire has too low a pressure. You could then adjust the pressures accordingly.
What do you think of these guidelines?
Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.
-mitch
[B]
40PSI hot gives the tyres a good chance of standing up to the sustained loadings they recieve on a track, for the road i run 34PSI, but on track with this the tyres are torn to pieces. I suggest you try my presures, they work much better.
These presures are for road tyres, not slicks. [/B][/QUOTE]
John,
I roadrace motorcycles and was led to believe that setting a tires pressure when cold was the proper way. From my understanding a tire when hot (after a few hots laps) should be about 10% higher than the cold pressure. If its less than 10% the tire has too high a pressure and conversley if the tire is over 10% the tire has too low a pressure. You could then adjust the pressures accordingly.
What do you think of these guidelines?
Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.
-mitch
| johnfelstead | 02-03-2003 07:16 PM |
Tyre presures have to be higher than you are running or you will wipe out the sidewalls. Running higher presures will drop some of the grip away, but at least your tyres will survive and be safe. The important thing is to have a balance front/rear. If you want to run lower presures you need much more static camber.
4or2wheels, i think your guidlines are wrong. Sure you will have a good idea on what cold presures to set, but it's the hot presures that matter, so if you have the ability to set them hot, do so. You cant do this in race situations for example, but testing and qualifying will give you prety acurate cold presures for that particular track/day. Each track and day alters the cold/hot presure changes you will see.
You can improve matters by using an inert gas rather than air to pump your tyres up too of course. The main reason presures change is due to the air you pump the tyres up with having a high water content. The better the quality of air/gas the more stable the presures.
4or2wheels, i think your guidlines are wrong. Sure you will have a good idea on what cold presures to set, but it's the hot presures that matter, so if you have the ability to set them hot, do so. You cant do this in race situations for example, but testing and qualifying will give you prety acurate cold presures for that particular track/day. Each track and day alters the cold/hot presure changes you will see.
You can improve matters by using an inert gas rather than air to pump your tyres up too of course. The main reason presures change is due to the air you pump the tyres up with having a high water content. The better the quality of air/gas the more stable the presures.
| johnfelstead | 02-03-2003 07:20 PM |
The Westie video isnt available online right now, i'll look into getting that back up, it would be a shame to not have joerund's videos there for people to enjoy.
Joerund and I had a laugh last year about it, as they used it on a TV shopping chanel station over in the USA to show a PC playing a video. Very funny.
Joerund and I had a laugh last year about it, as they used it on a TV shopping chanel station over in the USA to show a PC playing a video. Very funny.
| 4or2wheels | 02-04-2003 11:14 AM |
John, thanks for your feedback on tire pressures.
I would love to see that westie vid once it becomes available again.
Keep us posted
-mitch
I would love to see that westie vid once it becomes available again.
Keep us posted
-mitch
| johnfelstead | 02-05-2003 08:52 PM |
OK, here is my 30th lap of the ring, driving my Westfield Cosworth. 330BHP/700Kg. My line at times is poor, but i hardly knew the track and being low down it wasnt easy to drive on sight.
It has me being filmed by my late friend Joerund Siem from his Yamaha R1. Lap time is 8:10BTG.
[URL=http://www.johnfelstead.co.uk/videos/Westie V Yamaha R1 at the nurburgring.mpg]My Westfield ZEi220 v Yamaha R1 at the ring[/URL]
It has me being filmed by my late friend Joerund Siem from his Yamaha R1. Lap time is 8:10BTG.
[URL=http://www.johnfelstead.co.uk/videos/Westie V Yamaha R1 at the nurburgring.mpg]My Westfield ZEi220 v Yamaha R1 at the ring[/URL]
| Eric SS | 02-05-2003 09:01 PM |
I soooooo hate you... ;)
Eric
Eric
| Narcisse91 | 02-05-2003 09:21 PM |
Anybody else getting the error "The parameter is incorrect. " when they try to download?
| 4or2wheels | 02-06-2003 08:15 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by johnfelstead [/i]
[B]OK, here is my 30th lap of the ring, driving my Westfield Cosworth. [/B][/QUOTE]
John, thanks for trying to get this up for viewing but there's a problem when trying to download.
[B]OK, here is my 30th lap of the ring, driving my Westfield Cosworth. [/B][/QUOTE]
John, thanks for trying to get this up for viewing but there's a problem when trying to download.
| johnfelstead | 02-06-2003 08:48 AM |
It's official, my web server is crap. :lol:
I'll try sort something out later.
I'll try sort something out later.
| mch | 02-06-2003 12:29 PM |
download
I was able to get the video down last night. Took almost 3 hours over a 1mb/s DSL.
It is a terrific view, if only for the speedo on the R1. Putting numbers to the visuals makes it all the more impressive - especially for the BIKE!
Yikes! :eek: :eek: :eek:
Joerund was a hell of a rider.
Thanks John.
mch.
It is a terrific view, if only for the speedo on the R1. Putting numbers to the visuals makes it all the more impressive - especially for the BIKE!
Yikes! :eek: :eek: :eek:
Joerund was a hell of a rider.
Thanks John.
mch.
| grandpa rex | 02-06-2003 12:47 PM |
Still trying to download the latest. I keep timing out. But, that's not what my comment is about.
The March 2003 issue of Motor Trend magazine here says the following in an article about the new Porsche Cayenne:
"We were told by renowned rally legend and Porsche test driver Walter Rohrl that the Cayenne ran a tick faster than the BMW X5 and Boster S around Germany's fabled Nurburgring. The best rime for a Cayenne S (non-turbo) was nine minutes, four seconds, against the BMW X5's 9:06 and Porsche BoxterS' 9:05. Factory Turbo Cayennes run the Ring at 8:42."
Are you really running that much faster than these guys?
The March 2003 issue of Motor Trend magazine here says the following in an article about the new Porsche Cayenne:
"We were told by renowned rally legend and Porsche test driver Walter Rohrl that the Cayenne ran a tick faster than the BMW X5 and Boster S around Germany's fabled Nurburgring. The best rime for a Cayenne S (non-turbo) was nine minutes, four seconds, against the BMW X5's 9:06 and Porsche BoxterS' 9:05. Factory Turbo Cayennes run the Ring at 8:42."
Are you really running that much faster than these guys?
| mch | 02-06-2003 01:02 PM |
lap times
The times I noted are not full lap times. They are calculated from the first overpass as you come onto the track to the overhead sign around Dottinger Hohe. I took these simply because the guy in the GT3 (Ulf?) seemed to use these points as references when he self-timed. I do not know if these are the "official" points or not. John certainly will be able to settle this.
Also, I used a bar-b-que timer that is certainly not FIA certified, but these guys were cookin'.... :lol:
mch.
p.s. The best a Boxster S can do is 9:05??? :confused:
Also, I used a bar-b-que timer that is certainly not FIA certified, but these guys were cookin'.... :lol:
mch.
p.s. The best a Boxster S can do is 9:05??? :confused:
| johnfelstead | 02-06-2003 07:36 PM |
There are two ways to time your laps.
1) full lap time
2) Bridge to Gantry (BTG)
When the track is open to the general public, you can't do a full lap, so the best way to get a comparable time is to time from the first bridge you pass under to the last gantry. This misses out the long straight where the toll booths are placed.
The time it would take to travell the distance between the gantry and bridge varies depending on how fast the car is. Most people estimate around 20-25 seconds for a fast road car.
All my times are BTG times. The westfield i was doing 8:00BTG on it's last trip, so that would have been 8:20 full lap i think. The STi i am 8:20BTG fastest, i expect thats 8:45 full lap time.
I have still a way to go yet, compared to guys like Walter i am a real novice on this track, but compared to 99% of other people i am pretty much up there now. It's quite fun talking lap times in the Cafe at the ring entrance, i have seen the odd guy's jaw drop when they heard the times the westie did. That car would be 7:30's BTG now.
I need to borrow anders GT3 for the day and see what i could manage. ;)
I should have the westie lap on a faster server for download by tomorrow.
And yes, Joerund was an awesome rider, the best i have seen at that track. It was a tragedy when he died there, he was a lovely guy.
1) full lap time
2) Bridge to Gantry (BTG)
When the track is open to the general public, you can't do a full lap, so the best way to get a comparable time is to time from the first bridge you pass under to the last gantry. This misses out the long straight where the toll booths are placed.
The time it would take to travell the distance between the gantry and bridge varies depending on how fast the car is. Most people estimate around 20-25 seconds for a fast road car.
All my times are BTG times. The westfield i was doing 8:00BTG on it's last trip, so that would have been 8:20 full lap i think. The STi i am 8:20BTG fastest, i expect thats 8:45 full lap time.
I have still a way to go yet, compared to guys like Walter i am a real novice on this track, but compared to 99% of other people i am pretty much up there now. It's quite fun talking lap times in the Cafe at the ring entrance, i have seen the odd guy's jaw drop when they heard the times the westie did. That car would be 7:30's BTG now.
I need to borrow anders GT3 for the day and see what i could manage. ;)
I should have the westie lap on a faster server for download by tomorrow.
And yes, Joerund was an awesome rider, the best i have seen at that track. It was a tragedy when he died there, he was a lovely guy.
| wrxinfx | 02-06-2003 07:44 PM |
westy vs. r1 vid
never fear, I've downloaded the vid (took 4hrs) and I'll upload it to my super-quick server (unless John says otherwise) tonight. Watch for a post from me tomorrow with the link.
btw: the vid is unbelivable - I got sweaty palms watching it.
Gimme a day or three and I'll try to compress it for those of you who are bandwidth challenged.
Casey
btw: the vid is unbelivable - I got sweaty palms watching it.
Gimme a day or three and I'll try to compress it for those of you who are bandwidth challenged.
Casey
| johnfelstead | 02-06-2003 07:51 PM |
Hi Casey,
That would be great. :D
You may see in the video after about 2/3rd lap the bike isnt reving as hard as at the start, thats because my boost solonoid failed and it dropped to low boost. At the start i am running about 300BHP, at 2/3rd onwards i am around 220BHP. You will be able to tell.
Still fast though ;) :D
That would be great. :D
You may see in the video after about 2/3rd lap the bike isnt reving as hard as at the start, thats because my boost solonoid failed and it dropped to low boost. At the start i am running about 300BHP, at 2/3rd onwards i am around 220BHP. You will be able to tell.
Still fast though ;) :D
| IXLR8 | 02-06-2003 07:52 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by johnfelstead [/i]
[B]When the track is open to the general public, you can't do a full lap [/B][/QUOTE]
John, Is there an "official" source (other than you) for information on driving the ring? I'd be interested in a web site that would post a schedule of when it's open, what it costs, what are the driver/vehicle restrictions/requirements (if any, given that I think I saw a minivan with bikes on the roof that was mostly a blur as you blasted by in one of your vids...). Thanks
[B]When the track is open to the general public, you can't do a full lap [/B][/QUOTE]
John, Is there an "official" source (other than you) for information on driving the ring? I'd be interested in a web site that would post a schedule of when it's open, what it costs, what are the driver/vehicle restrictions/requirements (if any, given that I think I saw a minivan with bikes on the roof that was mostly a blur as you blasted by in one of your vids...). Thanks
| johnfelstead | 02-06-2003 08:10 PM |
The best non oficial website has to be Ben Lovejoy's [url]http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/[/url]
the official website is [url]http://www.nuerburgring.de/eng/index_e.htm[/url]
Restrictions on vehicles? i wish there were some, you can be doing 150MPH over a blind crest and find a 50 seater bus on the racing line. I dont like that. :lol:
the official website is [url]http://www.nuerburgring.de/eng/index_e.htm[/url]
Restrictions on vehicles? i wish there were some, you can be doing 150MPH over a blind crest and find a 50 seater bus on the racing line. I dont like that. :lol:
| IXLR8 | 02-07-2003 08:23 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by johnfelstead [/i]
[B]you can be doing 150MPH over a blind crest and find a 50 seater bus on the racing line. I dont like that. :lol: [/B][/QUOTE]
yeah, but they're probably on type "R" tires though...
Thanks very much for the info/links. Lovejoy's site is terrific.
[B]you can be doing 150MPH over a blind crest and find a 50 seater bus on the racing line. I dont like that. :lol: [/B][/QUOTE]
yeah, but they're probably on type "R" tires though...
Thanks very much for the info/links. Lovejoy's site is terrific.
| wrxinfx | 02-07-2003 10:46 AM |
westy vs. r1 vid
Give this a try:
[url]http://208.184.121.11/i-club/Westie_Vs_YamahaR1_nurburgring.mpeg[/url]
Casey
[url]http://208.184.121.11/i-club/Westie_Vs_YamahaR1_nurburgring.mpeg[/url]
Casey
| 4or2wheels | 02-07-2003 04:56 PM |
wrxinfx, thanks for putting that on your server.
John, that was fantastic. Too bad about Joerund, he was a hell of a rider. Great camera angle from his bike.
John. You made my day.
-thanks again
Mitch
John, that was fantastic. Too bad about Joerund, he was a hell of a rider. Great camera angle from his bike.
John. You made my day.
-thanks again
Mitch
| SubaruImpreza_power | 02-07-2003 08:57 PM |
WOW I really have to see all these Videos!
| grandpa rex | 02-08-2003 10:34 AM |
John, this last one is over the top. Absolutely sensational. I also appreciate the link to Ben Lovejoy's site. Thank you for making them available. If you ever do a compilation video or DVD, count me in. Thanks again.
| SubaruImpreza_power | 02-08-2003 11:31 AM |
WOW!!
WOW!! I watched the Mirror Video.. Holy crap.. I never seen a person so smooth with the car.. That is some aewsome drivng!! if you make this on Dvd or whatever I will buy it!!
Btw whats the name of that song on the Mirror Video? It fits it Perfectly!
Btw whats the name of that song on the Mirror Video? It fits it Perfectly!
| johnfelstead | 02-08-2003 03:47 PM |
Glad you like the vids, the westie is going back to my early days at the ring really, it was quite hard work learning the track in that car thinking back, being so low and with such a high power/weight ratio.
The music on the doormirror lap is a version of Metallica's Nothing Else Matters, recorded by a Belgium friend of mine.
My video is still being produced at the moment, it's been delayed a few weeks due to workload issues but it is ongoing and i think it will be worth the wait. It will be available in NTSC and PAL VHS format, we looked into DVD but the costs were too high unfortunately.
The music on the doormirror lap is a version of Metallica's Nothing Else Matters, recorded by a Belgium friend of mine.
My video is still being produced at the moment, it's been delayed a few weeks due to workload issues but it is ongoing and i think it will be worth the wait. It will be available in NTSC and PAL VHS format, we looked into DVD but the costs were too high unfortunately.
| SubaruImpreza_power | 02-08-2003 04:22 PM |
Hey were did you get that small camera from? I could hook one of those up to my Camcorder. It's the perfect size!
| johnfelstead | 02-08-2003 04:40 PM |
Would you really want to spend the sort of money this unit costs? [URL=http://www.optexint.com/sales/minicams/tusm50h.htm]Camera and control unit[/URL]
Camera Head is $1400
Camera Control Unit is $1040
Camera Lens is $606
Total $3046
That cost does not include the Video recording unit or the sound recording amp/mic. It's pro quality kit that comes at a premium. :eek:
You may be better off buying a bullit cam system that is a little bigger, lower resolution, you can get these to plug straight into a recorder unit for around $200 now.
Camera Head is $1400
Camera Control Unit is $1040
Camera Lens is $606
Total $3046
That cost does not include the Video recording unit or the sound recording amp/mic. It's pro quality kit that comes at a premium. :eek:
You may be better off buying a bullit cam system that is a little bigger, lower resolution, you can get these to plug straight into a recorder unit for around $200 now.
| SubaruImpreza_power | 02-08-2003 11:14 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by johnfelstead [/i]
[B]Would you really want to spend the sort of money this unit costs? [URL=http://www.optexint.com/sales/minicams/tusm50h.htm]Camera and control unit[/URL]
Camera Head is $1400
Camera Control Unit is $1040
Camera Lens is $606
Total $3046
That cost does not include the Video recording unit or the sound recording amp/mic. It's pro quality kit that comes at a premium. :eek:
You may be better off buying a bullit cam system that is a little bigger, lower resolution, you can get these to plug straight into a recorder unit for around $200 now. [/B][/QUOTE]
too tired to post a picture of my Camera I have now.. But I wont need a Mic for the small camera.. It's going to be on the outside on the car.. $200 is not bad.. But I need that Black box looking thing to make it work as well?
[B]Would you really want to spend the sort of money this unit costs? [URL=http://www.optexint.com/sales/minicams/tusm50h.htm]Camera and control unit[/URL]
Camera Head is $1400
Camera Control Unit is $1040
Camera Lens is $606
Total $3046
That cost does not include the Video recording unit or the sound recording amp/mic. It's pro quality kit that comes at a premium. :eek:
You may be better off buying a bullit cam system that is a little bigger, lower resolution, you can get these to plug straight into a recorder unit for around $200 now. [/B][/QUOTE]
too tired to post a picture of my Camera I have now.. But I wont need a Mic for the small camera.. It's going to be on the outside on the car.. $200 is not bad.. But I need that Black box looking thing to make it work as well?
| SubaruImpreza_power | 02-09-2003 07:09 AM |
This is the camera I'm strongy thinking about getting..
[url]http://www.jameco.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prmenbr=91&prrfnbr=267148&cgrfnbr=501&ctgys=[/url]
Color Interline Camera
Water Resistant!!!!!!!!!! with Adjustable Mounting Bracket
EIA format
1/3" CMOS image sensor
EIA format: 512(H) x 492(V)
330 horizontal line resolution
2:1 scanning interlace system
5 lux sensitivity
Video output: 1V p-p; 75 ohms
6mm lens/F2.0
S/N ratio: 40dB
FOV: 530
Electronic shutter: 1/60 - 1/1,200 sec.
Connectors: 1 standard RCA female jack for video, and in-line 2.1mm power-plug connector for power supply
Size: 2.6"L x 0.9"Dia.
Includes: Adjustable mounting bracket, 9V @ 100mA power supply and instruction sheet
Now what I would do is hook the RCA Cable from the camera to my Camcorder which would be recording I can fit about 1 Hour of Video on One tape.. and later on I can put the Video on my Computer via firewire.. Plus this camera is small enough as well :)
I would be curious about Night time Video.. on the highway it might be ok because of all the car lights.. Total darkness then would be bad It's a CMOS image sensor but the Video size would be 512x492
And the Field Of View is 530 I don't know how good that would be.. But I would gess good enough.
I would not need the mounting bracket..
[url]http://www.jameco.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prmenbr=91&prrfnbr=267148&cgrfnbr=501&ctgys=[/url]
Color Interline Camera
Water Resistant!!!!!!!!!! with Adjustable Mounting Bracket
EIA format
1/3" CMOS image sensor
EIA format: 512(H) x 492(V)
330 horizontal line resolution
2:1 scanning interlace system
5 lux sensitivity
Video output: 1V p-p; 75 ohms
6mm lens/F2.0
S/N ratio: 40dB
FOV: 530
Electronic shutter: 1/60 - 1/1,200 sec.
Connectors: 1 standard RCA female jack for video, and in-line 2.1mm power-plug connector for power supply
Size: 2.6"L x 0.9"Dia.
Includes: Adjustable mounting bracket, 9V @ 100mA power supply and instruction sheet
Now what I would do is hook the RCA Cable from the camera to my Camcorder which would be recording I can fit about 1 Hour of Video on One tape.. and later on I can put the Video on my Computer via firewire.. Plus this camera is small enough as well :)
I would be curious about Night time Video.. on the highway it might be ok because of all the car lights.. Total darkness then would be bad It's a CMOS image sensor but the Video size would be 512x492
And the Field Of View is 530 I don't know how good that would be.. But I would gess good enough.
I would not need the mounting bracket..
| johnfelstead | 02-09-2003 02:25 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SubaruImpreza_power [/i]
[B]$200 is not bad.. But I need that Black box looking thing to make it work as well? [/B][/QUOTE]
I think you misunderstood, i meant you can buy cheap bullit cams for around $200. My kit is $3000 for the camera/controller.
[B]$200 is not bad.. But I need that Black box looking thing to make it work as well? [/B][/QUOTE]
I think you misunderstood, i meant you can buy cheap bullit cams for around $200. My kit is $3000 for the camera/controller.
| SubaruImpreza_power | 02-09-2003 10:22 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by johnfelstead [/i]
[B]
I think you misunderstood, i meant you can buy cheap bullit cams for around $200. My kit is $3000 for the camera/controller. [/B][/QUOTE]
No.. I understood.. I looked around on the web.. I found a few sites they sell them.. question I have to ask you ( I have not looked at it yet) But the Rear View cam how did you run the wire from the camera?
[B]
I think you misunderstood, i meant you can buy cheap bullit cams for around $200. My kit is $3000 for the camera/controller. [/B][/QUOTE]
No.. I understood.. I looked around on the web.. I found a few sites they sell them.. question I have to ask you ( I have not looked at it yet) But the Rear View cam how did you run the wire from the camera?
| johnfelstead | 02-10-2003 06:40 AM |
you have :confused: me anyway. :lol:
What have you not looked at, the film or how you would run the wires?
What have you not looked at, the film or how you would run the wires?
| SubaruImpreza_power | 02-10-2003 02:03 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by johnfelstead [/i]
[B]you have :confused: me anyway. :lol:
What have you not looked at, the film or how you would run the wires? [/B][/QUOTE]
:lol: how to run the wires.. a Rear cam for the car how do you run the wires? Does the rear seat come down or some thing?
[B]you have :confused: me anyway. :lol:
What have you not looked at, the film or how you would run the wires? [/B][/QUOTE]
:lol: how to run the wires.. a Rear cam for the car how do you run the wires? Does the rear seat come down or some thing?
| johnfelstead | 02-10-2003 06:53 PM |
The rear seat doesnt come down on my car, they have a more solid bulkhead on the STi bodyshell that doesnt allow for that.
I ran the wires out of the back window then taped the wire to the bodywork. I also use a normal DV Camcorder on a suction window mount to take some footage too.
I ran the wires out of the back window then taped the wire to the bodywork. I also use a normal DV Camcorder on a suction window mount to take some footage too.
| SubaruImpreza_power | 02-10-2003 10:05 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by johnfelstead [/i]
[B]The rear seat doesnt come down on my car, they have a more solid bulkhead on the STi bodyshell that doesnt allow for that.
I ran the wires out of the back window then taped the wire to the bodywork. I also use a normal DV Camcorder on a suction window mount to take some footage too. [/B][/QUOTE]
oh.. LOL I thought you did it some kind of stelth way.. I don't feel so bad now :p
[B]The rear seat doesnt come down on my car, they have a more solid bulkhead on the STi bodyshell that doesnt allow for that.
I ran the wires out of the back window then taped the wire to the bodywork. I also use a normal DV Camcorder on a suction window mount to take some footage too. [/B][/QUOTE]
oh.. LOL I thought you did it some kind of stelth way.. I don't feel so bad now :p
| hacman | 02-11-2003 02:20 AM |
whoah!
i haven't visited in a while. what a pleasant suprise to return to! :)
in the past 12 hours, i've watched all the way up to the mirror cam. i still have 4 more to go, but this is unreal!!!
can't wait for the video!
great driving john!!!!!
in the past 12 hours, i've watched all the way up to the mirror cam. i still have 4 more to go, but this is unreal!!!
can't wait for the video!
great driving john!!!!!
| hacman | 02-11-2003 02:48 AM |
man. it's amazing how you just walk by everything out there. out of curiosity, do you have any videos where we actually can see what machine could pass you? :)
also, really quickly, what is the fastest BTG time around currently?
again, amazing driving
also, really quickly, what is the fastest BTG time around currently?
again, amazing driving
| US2JDM | 02-11-2003 05:16 AM |
John, not to hijack or get OT, but can you shed some light in this thread: [URL=http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=313709]STi DCCD Question[/URL]
Thanks,
-Milan
P.S. Can't wait for the video :D
Thanks,
-Milan
P.S. Can't wait for the video :D
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