| TheWRX | 04-10-2006 12:05 PM |
[QUOTE=ratt_finkel]I was getting MASSIVE wheelspin on the turn out and two corner exits.[/QUOTE]
People with AWD complaining about wheel spin! What is this world coming to? ;) Picture a RWD car with an open diff in the same turn...
Except for the last turnaround, I thought that the course worked quite well. That pivot was tough, and it was easy to loose enormous amounts of time there. When we looked at the data logs from Saturday, I lost a full second on my codriver in that single turn. I only got it right once on Sunday. You had to pretty much park it to keep you from pushing out.
As others have said, the community support in Walnut Ridge is tremendous. Many of us have probably experienced how difficult it can be to find (and keep) good event sites in most regions. It's just a very nice feeling to be at a site where you're actually wanted, and people get excited about you being there. We also got questions from people away from the event site, everybody was genuinely interested in our sport.
Great event overall. I hadn't run a ProSolo in almost two years. While there were still some minor timing issues, it looks like there has been a lot of progress during that time.
People with AWD complaining about wheel spin! What is this world coming to? ;) Picture a RWD car with an open diff in the same turn...
Except for the last turnaround, I thought that the course worked quite well. That pivot was tough, and it was easy to loose enormous amounts of time there. When we looked at the data logs from Saturday, I lost a full second on my codriver in that single turn. I only got it right once on Sunday. You had to pretty much park it to keep you from pushing out.
As others have said, the community support in Walnut Ridge is tremendous. Many of us have probably experienced how difficult it can be to find (and keep) good event sites in most regions. It's just a very nice feeling to be at a site where you're actually wanted, and people get excited about you being there. We also got questions from people away from the event site, everybody was genuinely interested in our sport.
Great event overall. I hadn't run a ProSolo in almost two years. While there were still some minor timing issues, it looks like there has been a lot of progress during that time.
| crystalhelix | 04-10-2006 12:59 PM |
Sorry to hijack but what days does BSP run in Topeka.
| KC | 04-10-2006 01:28 PM |
[QUOTE=crystalhelix]Sorry to hijack but what days does BSP run in Topeka.[/QUOTE]
See new thread. :)
See new thread. :)
| jcroy66 | 04-10-2006 02:47 PM |
[QUOTE=ratt_finkel]EDIT: I'd also like to personally thank Phil and Jen for taking me under their wing and showing me the ropes at my first Pro. You guys are awesome! I hope I'll see you in Mineral Wells![/QUOTE]You're welcome! Mineral Wells is definitely too far of a drive for us. Only chance of us doing Mineral Wells, Denver, or any of the farther west Pros is if we fly in and co-drive with someone.
| PhilC | 04-10-2006 03:14 PM |
Yep, Mapquest tells me that it would be 1265 miles each way for us to do Mineral Wells. Looking at my calendar I've got one vacation day left for this year that isn't already claimed by another autocross event which means we'd have to drive straight through after work on Thursday and try to drive straight through after the event on Sunday, skipping the challenge if we were to make it, for the 19 hour drive home. If we left TX at 11AM (very optimistic) that puts us home in time to shower and only be 2-3 hours late to work on Monday. :)
| jcroy66 | 04-11-2006 06:28 AM |
Hey Karen, I just remembered - what, if anything, were we supposed to do in impound for Yokohama contingency money? Yok money is being administered and paid this year by SCCA. So will it happen automatically? Or were we supposed to get impound to fill out one of those sheets for us?
| CamaroFS34 | 04-11-2006 10:15 AM |
AFAIK, since SCCA is administering the contingency, they are going by your entry and impound's sticker-and-equipment check for verification. I was wondering the same thing about Kumho money. I was just an impound plebe this weekend, so I am as much in the dark as anyone else.
| Scooby South | 04-11-2006 10:21 AM |
Kuhmo sent us money...as long as the paperwork was on file...;)...
not sure on the others...
Bill
not sure on the others...
Bill
| CamaroFS34 | 04-11-2006 10:23 AM |
[QUOTE=AUTOwrXER]I feel like I should have won the class, but never pulled my head out on the right side...[/QUOTE]
Change that to "left side" and you have my feeling on the weekend. I had Patty on the right, but she ripped off a 38.1 to my 38.6 on the left... I [i]know[/i] I could have run faster. Then to lose by 0.042 to her in the runoff round... I know for a fact that it was the missed shift to third heading out on the left that cost me third place in the Challenge. <sigh> Experience in a car helps, I can say that much. I often felt like I was just along for the ride in the STi. If I thought that car was a handful last year, then I don't know how to describe it now.
It was great seeing everyone again, and Jen and Reto weren't kidding about the community support! While the course wasn't my favorite (I'd have been [i]really[/i] cursing those turnarounds if I'd been in the Camaro with the crappy diff), the fact that it was treated like a [i]real[/i] motorsports event by Walnut Ridge made up for it in some ways.
Karen
Change that to "left side" and you have my feeling on the weekend. I had Patty on the right, but she ripped off a 38.1 to my 38.6 on the left... I [i]know[/i] I could have run faster. Then to lose by 0.042 to her in the runoff round... I know for a fact that it was the missed shift to third heading out on the left that cost me third place in the Challenge. <sigh> Experience in a car helps, I can say that much. I often felt like I was just along for the ride in the STi. If I thought that car was a handful last year, then I don't know how to describe it now.
It was great seeing everyone again, and Jen and Reto weren't kidding about the community support! While the course wasn't my favorite (I'd have been [i]really[/i] cursing those turnarounds if I'd been in the Camaro with the crappy diff), the fact that it was treated like a [i]real[/i] motorsports event by Walnut Ridge made up for it in some ways.
Karen
| CamaroFS34 | 04-11-2006 11:27 AM |
While I'm thinking about it.... anyone know if there was a photographer there?
| AUTOwrXER | 04-11-2006 11:39 AM |
Karen - you totally jinxed yourself on the shift-to-third issue during our Saturday afternoon course walk. It was bound to happen...
I'm planning to take advantage of 15.10.O and build a different gate for the shifter that will make it difficult to get anything except for third without making a special effort.
I'm planning to take advantage of 15.10.O and build a different gate for the shifter that will make it difficult to get anything except for third without making a special effort.
| ChrisDP | 04-11-2006 12:42 PM |
Have you done anything to the transmission mount? I kinda wondered if the third-gear misshift is a result of the transmission twisting its mounts under heavy-load like the M3 "moneyshift" Got into the same thing in an STi last summer where I missed 3rd at a fairly moderately unfortunate time
| crystalhelix | 04-11-2006 12:55 PM |
[QUOTE=ChrisDP]Have you done anything to the transmission mount? I kinda wondered if the third-gear misshift is a result of the transmission twisting its mounts under heavy-load like the M3 "moneyshift" Got into the same thing in an STi last summer where I missed 3rd at a fairly moderately unfortunate time[/QUOTE]
At least our shifter knobs don't fall off like the M3's. Nothing like shifting to find the knob in your hand afterwards. :lol:
At least our shifter knobs don't fall off like the M3's. Nothing like shifting to find the knob in your hand afterwards. :lol:
| CamaroFS34 | 04-11-2006 01:05 PM |
[QUOTE=ChrisDP]Have you done anything to the transmission mount? I kinda wondered if the third-gear misshift is a result of the transmission twisting its mounts under heavy-load like the M3 "moneyshift" Got into the same thing in an STi last summer where I missed 3rd at a fairly moderately unfortunate time[/QUOTE]
Tommy claims he didn't miss third all weekend. The first time I drove the car, a year and a half ago, I missed on one of three tries, and that was before a lot of the work that made it [i]truly[/i] street prepared. If it's the tranny mount, it's been that way for a while. ;)
Karen
Tommy claims he didn't miss third all weekend. The first time I drove the car, a year and a half ago, I missed on one of three tries, and that was before a lot of the work that made it [i]truly[/i] street prepared. If it's the tranny mount, it's been that way for a while. ;)
Karen
| ratt_finkel | 04-11-2006 01:13 PM |
FYI, you guys were shifting SUPER SLOW between 2nd and 3rd. Is that because there is a perpensity[sp?] to miss the gear?
| CamaroFS34 | 04-11-2006 01:21 PM |
[QUOTE=ratt_finkel]FYI, you guys were shifting SUPER SLOW between 2nd and 3rd. Is that because there is a perpensity[sp?] to miss the gear?[/QUOTE]
I didn't [i]feel[/i] like I was shifting slowly. It was probably most noticeable if I missed a shift, since I would try, know it didn't go in, try again, and on one particularly frustrating run, try a [i]third[/i] time, and once I knew it was in third gear, let the clutch out.
Or were you talking primarily about Joel and Tommy? I guess you were working while they were running, since you ran group 1.
Karen
I didn't [i]feel[/i] like I was shifting slowly. It was probably most noticeable if I missed a shift, since I would try, know it didn't go in, try again, and on one particularly frustrating run, try a [i]third[/i] time, and once I knew it was in third gear, let the clutch out.
Or were you talking primarily about Joel and Tommy? I guess you were working while they were running, since you ran group 1.
Karen
| ratt_finkel | 04-11-2006 01:52 PM |
[QUOTE=CamaroFS34]Or were you talking primarily about Joel and Tommy? I guess you were working while they were running, since you ran group 1.
Karen[/QUOTE]
Yes mam ;)
Karen[/QUOTE]
Yes mam ;)
| CamaroFS34 | 04-11-2006 01:55 PM |
I found some pictures that Jeff Cashmore took.
[url]http://www.cashmo.org/2006/06walnutridge.pro.html[/url]
Karen
[url]http://www.cashmo.org/2006/06walnutridge.pro.html[/url]
Karen
| ratt_finkel | 04-11-2006 02:28 PM |
Sweet pics, I need camber!
| AUTOwrXER | 04-11-2006 05:00 PM |
[QUOTE=ChrisDP]Have you done anything to the transmission mount? I kinda wondered if the third-gear misshift is a result of the transmission twisting its mounts under heavy-load like the M3 "moneyshift" Got into the same thing in an STi last summer where I missed 3rd at a fairly moderately unfortunate time[/QUOTE]
Tranny mounts have been replaced. I've also done the Kartboy shifter bushing and the TIC bushings. I have the factory short-shift that came with the car.
Tranny mounts have been replaced. I've also done the Kartboy shifter bushing and the TIC bushings. I have the factory short-shift that came with the car.
| AUTOwrXER | 04-11-2006 05:02 PM |
[QUOTE=ratt_finkel]FYI, you guys were shifting SUPER SLOW between 2nd and 3rd. Is that because there is a perpensity[sp?] to miss the gear?[/QUOTE]
I took extra time with it to make sure I got it right, but even with that there were at least two runs were it wouldn't go into 3rd and I had to hunt for it. Even at that we were still doing 68 mph on the way into the slalom :devil:
I took extra time with it to make sure I got it right, but even with that there were at least two runs were it wouldn't go into 3rd and I had to hunt for it. Even at that we were still doing 68 mph on the way into the slalom :devil:
| CamaroFS34 | 04-11-2006 05:07 PM |
[QUOTE=AUTOwrXER]Even at that we were still doing 68 mph on the way into the slalom :devil:[/QUOTE]
As verified by a radar gun (for me) and the data acquisition (for Joel and Tommy). :D
Karen
As verified by a radar gun (for me) and the data acquisition (for Joel and Tommy). :D
Karen
| Scooby South | 04-11-2006 05:21 PM |
[QUOTE=AUTOwrXER]I took extra time with it to make sure I got it right, but even with that there were at least two runs were it wouldn't go into 3rd and I had to hunt for it. Even at that we were still doing 68 mph on the way into the slalom :devil:[/QUOTE]
Interestingly enough...my car..as well as other STi's have this same issue from time to time..It's not the shifter at all...its the awkward angle we have to use to get it into 3rd gear on course....MK had the same issue with my car....and I have had it also...Driving normal..it goes right in..with no problem...now do 1.5g's plus and try to put into 3rd gear..becomes laborsome for sure...
Bill
Interestingly enough...my car..as well as other STi's have this same issue from time to time..It's not the shifter at all...its the awkward angle we have to use to get it into 3rd gear on course....MK had the same issue with my car....and I have had it also...Driving normal..it goes right in..with no problem...now do 1.5g's plus and try to put into 3rd gear..becomes laborsome for sure...
Bill
| AUTOwrXER | 04-11-2006 06:07 PM |
My idea is to take advantage of the open shift linkage allowance to build a shift gate that basically channels 2nd and 3rd toward each other. I don't drive the car on the street, so I could just leave a small notch for the shifter to move between that part of the gate.
| trhoppe | 04-11-2006 06:39 PM |
I wonder if some of this shifting thing could have been my issue with 4th gear on track. I can't replicate it on teh street and all my 4th gear shifts that were a pita were while pulling serious G's on track out.
That shift gate seems like a good idea. I saw an EP BMW with that at nationals a few years back.
-Tom
That shift gate seems like a good idea. I saw an EP BMW with that at nationals a few years back.
-Tom
| JerryLamb | 04-11-2006 08:47 PM |
[QUOTE=CamaroFS34]AFAIK, since SCCA is administering the contingency, they are going by your entry and impound's sticker-and-equipment check for verification. I was wondering the same thing about Kumho money.[/QUOTE]
The National office should send you a single check for all of the contingency sponsors that they administer. The check will have a sheet that shows all of the sources for the check and may include several events.
For example:
[email�protected] 3/5/2006 $200
[email�protected] 3/12/2006 $400
[email�protected] 3/15/2006 $90
indicates $200 from Kumho for 2nd place in San Diego, $400 from BMW for first in Fontana, and $90 for fourth qualifier for the Super Challenge in Fontana. Check it because it's a manual process and they may have missed something.
My check was mailed less than two weeks after Fontana! This is much better than dealing with the individual companies.
The National office should send you a single check for all of the contingency sponsors that they administer. The check will have a sheet that shows all of the sources for the check and may include several events.
For example:
[email�protected] 3/5/2006 $200
[email�protected] 3/12/2006 $400
[email�protected] 3/15/2006 $90
indicates $200 from Kumho for 2nd place in San Diego, $400 from BMW for first in Fontana, and $90 for fourth qualifier for the Super Challenge in Fontana. Check it because it's a manual process and they may have missed something.
My check was mailed less than two weeks after Fontana! This is much better than dealing with the individual companies.
| ChrisDP | 04-11-2006 10:01 PM |
Interesting... I forget, does the STi have an extended/tall armrest? I found it a lot easier to do 3rd/4th shifts without the big armrest.
[QUOTE=trhoppe]I wonder if some of this shifting thing could have been my issue with 4th gear on track. I can't replicate it on teh street and all my 4th gear shifts that were a pita were while pulling serious G's on track out.
[/QUOTE]
What, are you saying you can't find some school zone to go blasting through at the top of 3rd with the suspension crushed under cornering load so you can replicate your your 4th-gear-shifting issue? :lol: Weak!
[QUOTE=trhoppe]I wonder if some of this shifting thing could have been my issue with 4th gear on track. I can't replicate it on teh street and all my 4th gear shifts that were a pita were while pulling serious G's on track out.
[/QUOTE]
What, are you saying you can't find some school zone to go blasting through at the top of 3rd with the suspension crushed under cornering load so you can replicate your your 4th-gear-shifting issue? :lol: Weak!
| Storm | 04-11-2006 10:48 PM |
[QUOTE=AUTOwrXER]My idea is to take advantage of the open shift linkage allowance to build a shift gate that basically channels 2nd and 3rd toward each other. I don't drive the car on the street, so I could just leave a small notch for the shifter to move between that part of the gate.[/QUOTE]Just don't forget to leave a path to reverse! That'd suck in grid!
| trhoppe | 04-11-2006 10:56 PM |
:lol:
Joel's car doesn't have the armrest IIRC.
As far as my school zone rips, I tried it in front of Norcross High School, but it was a tight bend so I could only get into 3rd (with no crunching problems) at 60+ mph while sliding sideways. It was at 2:15 though, right when school lets out and I almost hit the kids getting onto the short bus, so I called it a success.
-Tom
Joel's car doesn't have the armrest IIRC.
As far as my school zone rips, I tried it in front of Norcross High School, but it was a tight bend so I could only get into 3rd (with no crunching problems) at 60+ mph while sliding sideways. It was at 2:15 though, right when school lets out and I almost hit the kids getting onto the short bus, so I called it a success.
-Tom
| KC | 04-12-2006 07:38 AM |
[QUOTE=trhoppe]:lol:
Joel's car doesn't have the armrest IIRC.
As far as my school zone rips, I tried it in front of Norcross High School, but it was a tight bend so I could only get into 3rd (with no crunching problems) at 60+ mph while sliding sideways. It was at 2:15 though, right when school lets out and I almost hit the kids getting onto the short bus, so I called it a success.
-Tom[/QUOTE]
It's only a success if you make one of them cry...
Joel's car doesn't have the armrest IIRC.
As far as my school zone rips, I tried it in front of Norcross High School, but it was a tight bend so I could only get into 3rd (with no crunching problems) at 60+ mph while sliding sideways. It was at 2:15 though, right when school lets out and I almost hit the kids getting onto the short bus, so I called it a success.
-Tom[/QUOTE]
It's only a success if you make one of them cry...
| ratt_finkel | 04-12-2006 10:45 AM |
[QUOTE=ratt_finkel]I'm proud to say that for the Saturday morning runs, on the right side I had the 3rd fastest time, and would've been 3rd overall for the morning had I not hit a cone on the left. Unfortunately, I did worse and everyone else got better.
[/QUOTE]
Make that 4th, I forgot G.H. ran a faster time than me as well. Ah crap, I need a mini :lol:
[/QUOTE]
Make that 4th, I forgot G.H. ran a faster time than me as well. Ah crap, I need a mini :lol:
| zzyzx | 04-12-2006 10:58 AM |
[QUOTE=trhoppe]As far as my school zone rips, I tried it in front of Norcross High School, but it was a tight bend so I could only get into 3rd (with no crunching problems) at 60+ mph while sliding sideways. It was at 2:15 though, right when school lets out and I almost hit the kids getting onto the short bus, so I called it a success.[/QUOTE]
2 second bonus for each one you [i]help[/i] onto the bus with the outside rear 1/4 panel.
2 second bonus for each one you [i]help[/i] onto the bus with the outside rear 1/4 panel.
| Scooby South | 04-12-2006 11:38 AM |
[QUOTE=ratt_finkel]Make that 4th, I forgot G.H. ran a faster time than me as well. Ah crap, I need a mini :lol:[/QUOTE]
boooooo-hisssssss.....;)
Bill
boooooo-hisssssss.....;)
Bill
| PhilC | 04-12-2006 11:45 AM |
[url]http://www.scca.com/News/News.asp?Ref=555[/url]
Sweet I made the writeup along with Tommy and Joel. Good Subaru representation.
Sweet I made the writeup along with Tommy and Joel. Good Subaru representation.
| CamaroFS34 | 04-12-2006 05:01 PM |
What kind of 60' and RTs were you guys getting? Once I... um.... "settled down" (or, as Greg Hahn put it, "realized I was in the central time zone"), I cut .6XX for the rest of my runs, except for one minor dip into the .5s (0.594). I had mostly 1.8XX 60' times, except for a single 1.7XX (which was my +2 run), and the occasional 2.XXX when it bogged off the line.
Karen
Karen
| AtomicRacer | 04-12-2006 05:12 PM |
60' were mostly 1.9 with a rare 1.8 on Saturday. Reaction times on Sunday were all in the low .500 range but my 60' went bad as I tried to change my launch a little and ended up bogging to the tune of 2.3 60'. So I ran matching times on Sunday as I did on Saturday with .4 seconds slower 60' on both sides. I know there is a lesson in there somewhere. =/
-Paul
-Paul
| PhilC | 04-12-2006 05:22 PM |
I ran my typical low .7xx RTs almost all weekend. Don't know why I can throw down consistent .5xx in practice starts and then leave .2 at the light during competition. Don't really recall the 60s other than the fact that we were seeing some 1.9s but never got to the 1.8s we're used to and had a few in the 2.0s and even a 2.1.
Ask Darin for the RT and 60 results, his software records all of that into a seperate result file that never gets posted most places.
Ask Darin for the RT and 60 results, his software records all of that into a seperate result file that never gets posted most places.
| jcroy66 | 04-12-2006 05:25 PM |
IIRC I think most of my 60' times were 1.90x times. Which I think made me the fastest in STX to 60' - most of the other WRX times I saw were high 1.9s or 2.0s. That may not necessarily have been a good thing though - I think it might just mean that I was short-shifting too late.
Edit: my RT ditto'd Phil's - nice .5xx times in the (wet!) practice starts, crappy .7xx RTs when it actually counted.
Edit: my RT ditto'd Phil's - nice .5xx times in the (wet!) practice starts, crappy .7xx RTs when it actually counted.
| RacerMike | 04-12-2006 05:34 PM |
[QUOTE=AtomicRacer]60' were mostly 1.8 with a rare 1.7 on Saturday. Reaction times on Sunday were all in the low .500 range but my 60' went bad as I tried to change my launch a little and ended up bogging to the tune of 2.3 60'. So I ran matching times on Sunday as I did on Saturday with .5 seconds slower 60' on both sides. I know there is a lesson in there somewhere. =/
-Paul[/QUOTE]
The lesson is buy a BMW and deal with 2.2 60' times :p
Mike
-Paul[/QUOTE]
The lesson is buy a BMW and deal with 2.2 60' times :p
Mike
| TheWRX | 04-12-2006 05:35 PM |
On my last two (fastest) runs, my reaction times were 0.508 and 0.506. That was probably just dumb luck, though. I normally try to not cut it too close, I'm perfectly happy if I get consistent times in the high 500s or low 600s. Fortunately nobody told me that I was getting this close to 500. It probably would have messed me up completely.
My 60' times were mostly 2.1xx. The lowest was 2.11. Not too bad for a non-AWD car.
My 60' times were mostly 2.1xx. The lowest was 2.11. Not too bad for a non-AWD car.
| AtomicRacer | 04-12-2006 05:41 PM |
[QUOTE=RacerMike]The lesson is buy a BMW and deal with 2.2 60' times :p
Mike[/QUOTE]
Then I would have to learn how to drive. =P
-Paul
ps: I had a 99' M3 (no sunroof) for two years. I do miss that car. =(
Mike[/QUOTE]
Then I would have to learn how to drive. =P
-Paul
ps: I had a 99' M3 (no sunroof) for two years. I do miss that car. =(
| crystalhelix | 04-12-2006 07:06 PM |
Hearing you guys talk about this makes me think I will be doing sucky at my first pro. I have a sticky clutch and a lightened flywheel this year and it's a lot harder to launch IMHO than the stocker.
| AUTOwrXER | 04-12-2006 07:58 PM |
You can try launch control, but the torque curve with boost is much more difficult to get right at one rpm than it was last year. I found that we either got tremendous wheelspin or bog, but nothing inbetween. FWIW last year we were turning 1.6 60' times, and this past weekend we only turned a few 1.7s and mostly 1.8s...
| CamaroFS34 | 04-12-2006 08:31 PM |
[QUOTE=AtomicRacer]Then I would have to learn how to drive. =P[/QUOTE]
Naaaa.... it's the "ultimate driving machine." It drives itself! How do you think 'Teucci and Ramey were so fast? ;) :lol:
Karen
Naaaa.... it's the "ultimate driving machine." It drives itself! How do you think 'Teucci and Ramey were so fast? ;) :lol:
Karen
| crystalhelix | 04-12-2006 10:52 PM |
[QUOTE=AUTOwrXER]You can try launch control, but the torque curve with boost is much more difficult to get right at one rpm than it was last year. I found that we either got tremendous wheelspin or bog, but nothing inbetween. FWIW last year we were turning 1.6 60' times, and this past weekend we only turned a few 1.7s and mostly 1.8s...[/QUOTE]
The problem is....I've never turned an "anything..xxxx" :lol:
Never 60' my car, ever :(
The problem is....I've never turned an "anything..xxxx" :lol:
Never 60' my car, ever :(
| PhilC | 04-13-2006 09:30 AM |
Launching and getting a good reaction time are harder than it sounds. We tried going to the drag strip a few times before our first Pro but it's just not quite the same. It did help us to at least get the staging and such correct and to find out just how badly we were bogging the launch when we first started.
In Walnut Ridge we were getting a lot more wheel spin off the line than in the other locations we've had Pros. Last year at the finale I was launching at or above 6000 and still hooking up right away. In Walnut Ridge I had best results launching at about 4600, anything higher and it just spun, anything lower and you're in bog city.
In Walnut Ridge we were getting a lot more wheel spin off the line than in the other locations we've had Pros. Last year at the finale I was launching at or above 6000 and still hooking up right away. In Walnut Ridge I had best results launching at about 4600, anything higher and it just spun, anything lower and you're in bog city.
| SloRice | 04-13-2006 10:02 AM |
[QUOTE=crystalhelix]The problem is....I've never turned an "anything..xxxx" :lol:
Never 60' my car, ever :([/QUOTE]
Well, you better get to a dragstrip and practice, practice, practice!!!
If your clutch is as "sticky" as you say it is, be careful on the launches.....I'm now on broken half shaft #2. :furious: Damn Exedy Twin Disk.
Never 60' my car, ever :([/QUOTE]
Well, you better get to a dragstrip and practice, practice, practice!!!
If your clutch is as "sticky" as you say it is, be careful on the launches.....I'm now on broken half shaft #2. :furious: Damn Exedy Twin Disk.
| crystalhelix | 04-13-2006 10:09 AM |
[QUOTE=SloRice]Well, you better get to a dragstrip and practice, practice, practice!!!
If your clutch is as "sticky" as you say it is, be careful on the launches.....I'm now on broken half shaft #2. :furious: Damn Exedy Twin Disk.[/QUOTE]
Ooooh..snap...literally. :lol:
Passenger rear?
If your clutch is as "sticky" as you say it is, be careful on the launches.....I'm now on broken half shaft #2. :furious: Damn Exedy Twin Disk.[/QUOTE]
Ooooh..snap...literally. :lol:
Passenger rear?
| CamaroFS34 | 04-13-2006 10:11 AM |
[QUOTE=SloRice]Well, you better get to a dragstrip and practice, practice, practice!!![/QUOTE]
The dragstrip is really only good to practice the lights. Because it's going to be flat (no rollouts there, unlike most ProSolos), and sticky (VHT), you're not going to get quite the same experience. But if you've never done a drag strip style launch before, then it could be good just for the timing of the lights. Since the timer starts when the light goes green at a ProSolo, any time you leave at the lights can ultimately affect your overall position in class. Consistent 0.6x RTs are well and good for making sure you get a time, but if you lost by 0.05, then that 0.1 you left at the lights cost you the win.
Karen
[i]yes, i have drag racing trophies[/i]
The dragstrip is really only good to practice the lights. Because it's going to be flat (no rollouts there, unlike most ProSolos), and sticky (VHT), you're not going to get quite the same experience. But if you've never done a drag strip style launch before, then it could be good just for the timing of the lights. Since the timer starts when the light goes green at a ProSolo, any time you leave at the lights can ultimately affect your overall position in class. Consistent 0.6x RTs are well and good for making sure you get a time, but if you lost by 0.05, then that 0.1 you left at the lights cost you the win.
Karen
[i]yes, i have drag racing trophies[/i]
| SloRice | 04-13-2006 10:12 AM |
Passenger rear was last summer.
Driver rear was last night.
The odd thing is most people say that actually snap the axle shaft. Both my halfshafts have broke in the CV joints. So it's not like I can call The Driveshaft Shop and order of set of axles becuase I'm not breaking that part. :mad:
Driver rear was last night.
The odd thing is most people say that actually snap the axle shaft. Both my halfshafts have broke in the CV joints. So it's not like I can call The Driveshaft Shop and order of set of axles becuase I'm not breaking that part. :mad:
| 10th Warrior | 04-13-2006 10:14 AM |
[quote]Launching and getting a good reaction time are harder than it sounds.[/quote]
you need a GS 2.5RS then ;) I always used to get 5.2-4 RT's 90% of the time with 2.0 60', unless Io eclipsed Ganymede, then I would get a 1.9. One of these days hopefully I'll get to do a Pro in the STi :(
you need a GS 2.5RS then ;) I always used to get 5.2-4 RT's 90% of the time with 2.0 60', unless Io eclipsed Ganymede, then I would get a 1.9. One of these days hopefully I'll get to do a Pro in the STi :(
| crystalhelix | 04-13-2006 10:26 AM |
I guess I will have to talk technique with everyone then at some point. Because locally I don't really coun't on the launch that much.
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| CamaroFS34 | 04-13-2006 10:30 AM |
[QUOTE=10th Warrior]you need a GS 2.5RS then ;) I always used to get 5.2-4 RT's 90% of the time with 2.0 60', unless Io eclipsed Ganymede, then I would get a 1.9. One of these days hopefully I'll get to do a Pro in the STi :([/QUOTE]
In Billy's STS car, I would routinely get mid-to-low 0.5XXs (at Wendover, it was a routine .502, .504, .503, and then, bang, 0.498 in the challenge :( ), but I don't remember the 60' times. Maybe it's just an RS thing. ;)
I thought the reason you weren't at the Pro was because you were previously committed to something else.... you're only in the car for the Tours? I guess since you've won a Super Challenge, James feels threatened? ;)
Karen
In Billy's STS car, I would routinely get mid-to-low 0.5XXs (at Wendover, it was a routine .502, .504, .503, and then, bang, 0.498 in the challenge :( ), but I don't remember the 60' times. Maybe it's just an RS thing. ;)
I thought the reason you weren't at the Pro was because you were previously committed to something else.... you're only in the car for the Tours? I guess since you've won a Super Challenge, James feels threatened? ;)
Karen
| ratt_finkel | 04-13-2006 11:10 AM |
I only saw one slip. It was a 2.0xx. I think all my launches were pretty consistent. Though I started to get lots of wheel spin as the day went on.
Also, it Ann Hollis was trying to give me some tips right before I took off on my first runs. I come back from the left side of my first run with a mid .5. She was like, WTH did that come from? The look on her face was priceless. :lol: I think the worst I did was a .8 with the average being high .6's. Almost all my morning runs were .5xx.
Also, it Ann Hollis was trying to give me some tips right before I took off on my first runs. I come back from the left side of my first run with a mid .5. She was like, WTH did that come from? The look on her face was priceless. :lol: I think the worst I did was a .8 with the average being high .6's. Almost all my morning runs were .5xx.
| Mhyrr | 04-13-2006 01:06 PM |
Darrin posted results with RT and 60' on sccaforums..
| 10th Warrior | 04-13-2006 01:26 PM |
[quote]Maybe it's just an RS thing.[/quote]
lord knows I can't drive, but a car with lots more traction then power is easy to launch consistantly.
[quote]I thought the reason you weren't at the Pro was because you were previously committed to something else.... you're only in the car for the Tours? I guess since you've won a Super Challenge, James feels threatened?[/quote]
lol, I doubt it. I would have been there, but I was enjoying SF instead for a few days. Still not sure what my schedule will be this year. I'll do some more local events in the STi and probably a divisional or two, but I may be done with National events this year.
lord knows I can't drive, but a car with lots more traction then power is easy to launch consistantly.
[quote]I thought the reason you weren't at the Pro was because you were previously committed to something else.... you're only in the car for the Tours? I guess since you've won a Super Challenge, James feels threatened?[/quote]
lol, I doubt it. I would have been there, but I was enjoying SF instead for a few days. Still not sure what my schedule will be this year. I'll do some more local events in the STi and probably a divisional or two, but I may be done with National events this year.
| jcroy66 | 04-13-2006 01:29 PM |
[QUOTE=jcroy66]IIRC I think most of my 60' times were 1.90x times.[/QUOTE]I should have typed that most of my [b]Saturday am[/b] 60' times were 1.90x. :) I stopped paying attention to my 60' times after Saturday morning. Looks like I managed to REALLY bog it on my first Sunday morning run and actually got a 2.368! Youch. I am glad to see that my fastest left side had a 0.526 RT and 1.916 60'. I'd have been really kicking myself if I'd had a .7xx RT, as that would have made the difference between DFL and not-DFL. :p
| ratt_finkel | 04-13-2006 01:37 PM |
Once again, I was way off on my times. It looks like my best RT was a .6xx.
Solid 2.0 60' times.
Solid 2.0 60' times.
| bbimpreza | 04-13-2006 09:52 PM |
My 60' times were in the 2.0xx sec range. The car definitely pulls hard now at the start instead of bogging like it use to when Karen drove it. Yoshio knows his stuff on tuning.
| XeviousR | 04-14-2006 12:52 AM |
[URL=http://www.shimmysideways.com/Default.aspx?tabid=59&path=2006%20AutoX]Just uploaded some videos.[/URL] One out of car of Tommy & Stompy. The rest are my In-Car.
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