| Supraru | 03-05-2011 04:22 PM |
[quote=Uncle Scotty;33484971]^^^^^
lotsa real dumb things goin on in this thread
the dumbest thing is people thinkin its s000 k000 to drive a race car on the street...which is the heart of ALL rice
that is just the dumbest thing that I can think of
there are many ways of making the car a lot better...lighter...without being so bloody bleeding fanatical about it[/quote]
Ahh...so race cars are now rice? Man you say the dumbest things sometimes. :lol:
I guess I'm smarter then everyone here since I started with an already light car instead of removing everything to make it light. I would be pissed to be that heavy.
lotsa real dumb things goin on in this thread
the dumbest thing is people thinkin its s000 k000 to drive a race car on the street...which is the heart of ALL rice
that is just the dumbest thing that I can think of
there are many ways of making the car a lot better...lighter...without being so bloody bleeding fanatical about it[/quote]
Ahh...so race cars are now rice? Man you say the dumbest things sometimes. :lol:
I guess I'm smarter then everyone here since I started with an already light car instead of removing everything to make it light. I would be pissed to be that heavy.
| GC_Anthony | 03-05-2011 04:31 PM |
Real dumb is not knowing how to ****ing use a keyboard.
| Supraru | 03-05-2011 04:40 PM |
[quote=GC_Anthony;33485776]Real dumb is not knowing how to ****ing use a keyboard.[/quote]
Or using curse words knowing that you're going to be blocked. Real dumb. ;)
Or using curse words knowing that you're going to be blocked. Real dumb. ;)
| GC_Anthony | 03-05-2011 06:40 PM |
[quote=Supraru;33485845]Or using curse words knowing that you're going to be blocked. Real dumb. ;)[/quote]
:lol:
The reinforcement webbing from a steel RS hood weights 3-4 pounds. I removed it from a spare hood I had to see if it was worth it on my good one. Its not worth the effort like alot of things around here. :D
:lol:
The reinforcement webbing from a steel RS hood weights 3-4 pounds. I removed it from a spare hood I had to see if it was worth it on my good one. Its not worth the effort like alot of things around here. :D
| Supraru | 03-05-2011 07:09 PM |
[quote=GC_Anthony;33486515]:lol:
The reinforcement webbing from a steel RS hood weights 3-4 pounds. I removed it from a spare hood I had to see if it was worth it on my good one. Its not worth the effort like alot of things around here. :D[/quote]
Can't say I'd ever do that. I've read horror stories with flexing and buckling. I guess if you really need to shave 4lbs that's better then a diet. haha. My next step before I paint the car will be aluminum hood, lightweight front and rear bumper beams, and if they make them aluminum trunk or carbon fiber but that would be painted.
The reinforcement webbing from a steel RS hood weights 3-4 pounds. I removed it from a spare hood I had to see if it was worth it on my good one. Its not worth the effort like alot of things around here. :D[/quote]
Can't say I'd ever do that. I've read horror stories with flexing and buckling. I guess if you really need to shave 4lbs that's better then a diet. haha. My next step before I paint the car will be aluminum hood, lightweight front and rear bumper beams, and if they make them aluminum trunk or carbon fiber but that would be painted.
| Splinter | 03-06-2011 01:15 PM |
[quote=Supraru;33483238]I don't get it, move your ecu into your dash yet they are still rocking carpet. If you're gonna go that far go all out don't half ass it. haha[/quote]
Cops.
You go through a roadblock with a gutted interior and your chances of being pulled over for a closer look go up 10000%.
Apparently I'm super duper lame because I want to have a very fast car to race but I can't afford to have a truck and trailer to take it to the track for me. I can live with Uncle Scotty thinking I'm lame. I'm not even sure that's an insult. Kinda like a kid with Down's syndrome telling you he hates your shoes.
I want to have my car as fast as possible and make it stick out as little as possible. That means full interior and quiet exhaust. Yes its still obvious my car is modified, but not to the extent where it'll attract unwanted attention.
Fun fact: I have another car to drive, I don't have to commute in this thing.
Cops.
You go through a roadblock with a gutted interior and your chances of being pulled over for a closer look go up 10000%.
Apparently I'm super duper lame because I want to have a very fast car to race but I can't afford to have a truck and trailer to take it to the track for me. I can live with Uncle Scotty thinking I'm lame. I'm not even sure that's an insult. Kinda like a kid with Down's syndrome telling you he hates your shoes.
I want to have my car as fast as possible and make it stick out as little as possible. That means full interior and quiet exhaust. Yes its still obvious my car is modified, but not to the extent where it'll attract unwanted attention.
Fun fact: I have another car to drive, I don't have to commute in this thing.
| Supraru | 03-06-2011 01:22 PM |
[quote=Splinter;33491341]Cops.
You go through a roadblock with a gutted interior and your chances of being pulled over for a closer look go up 10000%.
Apparently I'm super duper lame because I want to have a very fast car to race but I can't afford to have a truck and trailer to take it to the track for me. I can live with Uncle Scotty thinking I'm lame. I'm not even sure that's an insult. Kinda like a kid with Down's syndrome telling you he hates your shoes.
I want to have my car as fast as possible and make it stick out as little as possible. That means full interior and quiet exhaust. Yes its still obvious my car is modified, but not to the extent where it'll attract unwanted attention.
Fun fact: I have another car to drive, I don't have to commute in this thing.[/quote]
Don't know if it's a Canadian thing but I can't say I go through to many "road blocks" where cops search your car. Closest thing to that is a dui check point I went through once and they just pointed me to keep going. lol
You go through a roadblock with a gutted interior and your chances of being pulled over for a closer look go up 10000%.
Apparently I'm super duper lame because I want to have a very fast car to race but I can't afford to have a truck and trailer to take it to the track for me. I can live with Uncle Scotty thinking I'm lame. I'm not even sure that's an insult. Kinda like a kid with Down's syndrome telling you he hates your shoes.
I want to have my car as fast as possible and make it stick out as little as possible. That means full interior and quiet exhaust. Yes its still obvious my car is modified, but not to the extent where it'll attract unwanted attention.
Fun fact: I have another car to drive, I don't have to commute in this thing.[/quote]
Don't know if it's a Canadian thing but I can't say I go through to many "road blocks" where cops search your car. Closest thing to that is a dui check point I went through once and they just pointed me to keep going. lol
| Splinter | 03-06-2011 01:50 PM |
[quote=Supraru;33491388]Don't know if it's a Canadian thing but I can't say I go through to many "road blocks" where cops search your car. Closest thing to that is a dui check point I went through once and they just pointed me to keep going. lol[/quote]
dui checks, seatbelt checks, cellphone checks
Just because you're not doing something they are specifically looking for doesn't mean they won't pull you over. Canada has a big hate-on for cars in general, and it's evidenced in the policing of modified cars.
You go through a seatbelt check and you've got a gutted interior? The cop can easily pull you over and give you an inspection ticket.
dui checks, seatbelt checks, cellphone checks
Just because you're not doing something they are specifically looking for doesn't mean they won't pull you over. Canada has a big hate-on for cars in general, and it's evidenced in the policing of modified cars.
You go through a seatbelt check and you've got a gutted interior? The cop can easily pull you over and give you an inspection ticket.
| Supraru | 03-06-2011 02:04 PM |
[quote=Splinter;33491549]dui checks, seatbelt checks, cellphone checks
Just because you're not doing something they are specifically looking for doesn't mean they won't pull you over. Canada has a big hate-on for cars in general, and it's evidenced in the policing of modified cars.
You go through a seatbelt check and you've got a gutted interior? The cop can easily pull you over and give you an inspection ticket.[/quote]
Man that sucks. I'd hate to live there. My friend worked for Pratt & Miller and was going up to a alms race in Canada and wouldn't let him and another co-worker in because they had "work boots" in the back. They asked him why they had them he told them because it was supposed to rain. The boarder guy looked at him funny and said that race cars don't race in the rain and refused them entry. :lol: What a holes.
Just because you're not doing something they are specifically looking for doesn't mean they won't pull you over. Canada has a big hate-on for cars in general, and it's evidenced in the policing of modified cars.
You go through a seatbelt check and you've got a gutted interior? The cop can easily pull you over and give you an inspection ticket.[/quote]
Man that sucks. I'd hate to live there. My friend worked for Pratt & Miller and was going up to a alms race in Canada and wouldn't let him and another co-worker in because they had "work boots" in the back. They asked him why they had them he told them because it was supposed to rain. The boarder guy looked at him funny and said that race cars don't race in the rain and refused them entry. :lol: What a holes.
| Splinter | 03-06-2011 02:22 PM |
[quote=Supraru;33491648]Man that sucks. I'd hate to live there. [/quote]
Good for some stuff, bad for other stuff. Just like anywhere else :)
Good for some stuff, bad for other stuff. Just like anywhere else :)
| 68Cadillac | 03-14-2011 03:24 PM |
[quote=Splinter;33491341]I can live with Uncle Scotty thinking I'm lame. I'm not even sure that's an insult. Kinda like a kid with Down's syndrome telling you he hates your shoes.[/quote]
Literally laughed out loud reading that.
Back on topic.
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_3865.jpg[/IMG]
MYO Tranny Jack
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_3866.jpg[/IMG]
Didn't even take the axles out.
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_3863.jpg[/IMG]
OEM Flywheel 10.16 kg (22.4 lbm) Out
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_3768.jpg[/IMG]
Prolite flywheel installed. 4.254 kg (9.378 lbm)
A 5.906 kg (13.02 lbm) reduction in mass.
[SIZE="1"][B]Current Mass of my Subaru[/B][/SIZE]
1292.617 kg (2849.733 lbm): curb weight (full of fuel), or
1248.346 kg (2752.132 lbm): dry weight (no fuel)
Total mass removed: 143.004 kg (315.27 lbm)
Literally laughed out loud reading that.
Back on topic.
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_3865.jpg[/IMG]
MYO Tranny Jack
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_3866.jpg[/IMG]
Didn't even take the axles out.
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_3863.jpg[/IMG]
OEM Flywheel 10.16 kg (22.4 lbm) Out
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_3768.jpg[/IMG]
Prolite flywheel installed. 4.254 kg (9.378 lbm)
A 5.906 kg (13.02 lbm) reduction in mass.
[SIZE="1"][B]Current Mass of my Subaru[/B][/SIZE]
1292.617 kg (2849.733 lbm): curb weight (full of fuel), or
1248.346 kg (2752.132 lbm): dry weight (no fuel)
Total mass removed: 143.004 kg (315.27 lbm)
| u2_m4r1n3 | 03-14-2011 03:45 PM |
^ NICE!
I plan on going big...
Aiming for a 2700 lbs car....
I plan on going big...
Aiming for a 2700 lbs car....
| Str8Gone | 03-14-2011 03:48 PM |
I just got my stock flywheel back in after cracking my exedy, it takes a tad longer to get going from a lower rpm but up top it pulls harder and smoother imo.
| Supraru | 03-14-2011 08:15 PM |
[quote=68Cadillac;33570220]Literally laughed out loud reading that.
Back on topic.
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_3865.jpg[/IMG]
MYO Tranny Jack
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_3866.jpg[/IMG]
Didn't even take the axles out.
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_3863.jpg[/IMG]
OEM Flywheel 10.16 kg (22.4 lbm) Out
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_3768.jpg[/IMG]
Prolite flywheel installed. 4.254 kg (9.378 lbm)
A 5.906 kg (13.02 lbm) reduction in mass.
[SIZE="1"][B]Current Mass of my Subaru[/B][/SIZE]
1292.617 kg (2849.733 lbm): curb weight (full of fuel), or
1248.346 kg (2752.132 lbm): dry weight (no fuel)
Total mass removed: 143.004 kg (315.27 lbm)[/quote]
I hope you got lucky and yours doesn't make the decel noise. I've been through two flywheels and two transmissions and still have the noise. Once I swap out the block I'll be going with the stock flywheel with no more noise. haha
Back on topic.
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_3865.jpg[/IMG]
MYO Tranny Jack
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_3866.jpg[/IMG]
Didn't even take the axles out.
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_3863.jpg[/IMG]
OEM Flywheel 10.16 kg (22.4 lbm) Out
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t278/RasmusHansen/SubaruParts/IMG_3768.jpg[/IMG]
Prolite flywheel installed. 4.254 kg (9.378 lbm)
A 5.906 kg (13.02 lbm) reduction in mass.
[SIZE="1"][B]Current Mass of my Subaru[/B][/SIZE]
1292.617 kg (2849.733 lbm): curb weight (full of fuel), or
1248.346 kg (2752.132 lbm): dry weight (no fuel)
Total mass removed: 143.004 kg (315.27 lbm)[/quote]
I hope you got lucky and yours doesn't make the decel noise. I've been through two flywheels and two transmissions and still have the noise. Once I swap out the block I'll be going with the stock flywheel with no more noise. haha
| BeBop86 | 03-15-2011 12:10 AM |
What's the noise?
| fastwrx25 | 03-15-2011 12:35 AM |
not to be a stickler but, in the pic you weighed the stock fly w/ the pilot bearing. weight is not 100% accurate now...lol
| JDwhiteWRX | 04-13-2011 07:48 AM |
Since my last post in here I have removed my fog lights and hella supertones, also replaced u-brace with h-brace and using the Oswald wrx undertray mount kit to keep my plastic tray.
My goal is to remove 100kg from stock weight and I estimate I have already removed 54kg, not much to photos to show really but I thought what I did tonight was pretty cool.
On the left are the brackets that hold up the evap system at the rear of the car, on the right are my homemade brackets I made using some leftover aluminium bar from my fire extinguisher bracket.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/EvapBrackets01.jpg[/IMG]
I don'y have any scales at the moment so I cant tell you what the factory brackets weigh but my DIY brackets weigh a fraction of OEM.
Installed, its very solid.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/EvapBrackets02.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/EvapBrackets03.jpg[/IMG]
My goal is to remove 100kg from stock weight and I estimate I have already removed 54kg, not much to photos to show really but I thought what I did tonight was pretty cool.
On the left are the brackets that hold up the evap system at the rear of the car, on the right are my homemade brackets I made using some leftover aluminium bar from my fire extinguisher bracket.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/EvapBrackets01.jpg[/IMG]
I don'y have any scales at the moment so I cant tell you what the factory brackets weigh but my DIY brackets weigh a fraction of OEM.
Installed, its very solid.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/EvapBrackets02.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/EvapBrackets03.jpg[/IMG]
| JDwhiteWRX | 04-14-2011 12:37 AM |
Can anyone who has removed the firewall sound proofing foam comment on how much noise it adds? I have a real quiet exhaust and want to be able to hear my engine more anyway.
| BeBop86 | 04-14-2011 12:55 AM |
[B]^^^^^^ What's with the inner-tube around the swaybar mount? To kept it clean?[/B]
| u2_m4r1n3 | 04-14-2011 12:55 AM |
There really isn't a huge difference. I was actually surprised that it wasn't really louder, but it definitely took like 10 lbs off (maybe a tad bit more).
Removing the transmission tunnel sound proofing made a bigger difference; I can definitely hear my trans pretty well. But, at least to me, doesn't really bother.
Removing the transmission tunnel sound proofing made a bigger difference; I can definitely hear my trans pretty well. But, at least to me, doesn't really bother.
| bemani | 04-14-2011 01:01 AM |
[quote=JDwhiteWRX;33843634]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/EvapBrackets02.jpg[/IMG]
[/quote]
I'm surprise a zip tie expert like yourself would even bother with a bracket and not just zip tie the canister directly to the car.;)
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/EvapBrackets02.jpg[/IMG]
[/quote]
I'm surprise a zip tie expert like yourself would even bother with a bracket and not just zip tie the canister directly to the car.;)
| JDwhiteWRX | 04-14-2011 02:00 AM |
[quote=BeBop86;33853001][B]^^^^^^ What's with the inner-tube around the swaybar mount? To kept it clean?[/B][/quote]
Yes, keep the dirt out and the grease in.
[quote=u2_m4r1n3;33853002]There really isn't a huge difference. I was actually surprised that it wasn't really louder, but it definitely took like 10 lbs off (maybe a tad bit more).
Removing the transmission tunnel sound proofing made a bigger difference; I can definitely hear my trans pretty well. But, at least to me, doesn't really bother.[/quote]
Thanks for that info.
[quote=bemani;33853043]I'm surprise a zip tie expert like yourself would even bother with a bracket and not just zip tie the canister directly to the car.;)[/quote]
ha ha the brackets allow it to be done up nice and tight instead of flopping around or rubbing on the underbody.
Yes, keep the dirt out and the grease in.
[quote=u2_m4r1n3;33853002]There really isn't a huge difference. I was actually surprised that it wasn't really louder, but it definitely took like 10 lbs off (maybe a tad bit more).
Removing the transmission tunnel sound proofing made a bigger difference; I can definitely hear my trans pretty well. But, at least to me, doesn't really bother.[/quote]
Thanks for that info.
[quote=bemani;33853043]I'm surprise a zip tie expert like yourself would even bother with a bracket and not just zip tie the canister directly to the car.;)[/quote]
ha ha the brackets allow it to be done up nice and tight instead of flopping around or rubbing on the underbody.
| gtasti | 04-14-2011 09:13 PM |
i like that idea up top maybe I'll do something like that
| JDwhiteWRX | 04-15-2011 06:50 PM |
Made up some radiator support brackets last night.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/RadSupport01.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/RadSupport02.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/RadSupport01.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/RadSupport02.jpg[/IMG]
| Uncle Scotty | 04-15-2011 07:08 PM |
[quote]I can live with Uncle Scotty thinking I'm lame. I'm not even sure that's an insult. Kinda like a kid with Down's syndrome telling you he hates your shoes.[/quote]
but idiots are still idiots and you cant change that......and idiots do real stupid things to nice cars, and wear ugly shoes, every day
and I see LOTS of ugly shoes on stupid people every day
sorry d0000000000d but the power of logical thought process can seem foreign to many who poses limited intelligence....and I see THAT every day, too :D
so, in the end, the joke is STILL on you
but idiots are still idiots and you cant change that......and idiots do real stupid things to nice cars, and wear ugly shoes, every day
and I see LOTS of ugly shoes on stupid people every day
sorry d0000000000d but the power of logical thought process can seem foreign to many who poses limited intelligence....and I see THAT every day, too :D
so, in the end, the joke is STILL on you
| 20pvwrx11 | 04-16-2011 12:26 PM |
I bet uncle scotty has ugly shoes and a bad mustache. Possibly a small child locked up somewhere. I'm not sure but id say never invite him over for dinner with the family.
| 573 | 04-16-2011 05:58 PM |
Uncle scotty hating really seems to be in now. Despite being a bit harsh, he generally seems to be right. Obsessing over weight reduction on a street car is pretty illogical. If this thread were in the motorsport section, I'm sure he wouldn't be judging, but these are your daily drivers. On a DD, the work involved in weight reduction is hardly proportionate to the reward.
| A-man07 | 04-16-2011 08:32 PM |
[quote=573;33875525]Obsessing over weight reduction on a street car is pretty illogical. If this thread were in the motorsport section, I'm sure he wouldn't be judging, but these are your daily drivers. On a DD, the work involved in weight reduction is hardly proportionate to the reward.[/quote]
For some they are daily drivers and for some of us they are not, even if they are street cars. Nonetheless, it is nice to have one thread for those of us who enjoy this kind of pursuit to be able to show off and compare. Because it is the internet, there will be judgement...but you'll get it right back.
For some they are daily drivers and for some of us they are not, even if they are street cars. Nonetheless, it is nice to have one thread for those of us who enjoy this kind of pursuit to be able to show off and compare. Because it is the internet, there will be judgement...but you'll get it right back.
| SoCal_Scooby | 04-16-2011 08:53 PM |
What do you guys think are the top 10 weight reduction mods? car needs to pass smog though so no air pump delete
| JDwhiteWRX | 04-17-2011 02:49 AM |
[quote=SoCal_Scooby;33876434]What do you guys think are the top 10 weight reduction mods? car needs to pass smog though so no air pump delete[/quote]
Front bumper beam
Rear bumper beam (my car never had one, we didn'y get them in Oz.)
Battery
Front U-brace
Front seats
Aftermarket exhaust
wheels
2-piece front rotors (DBA5000)
Those are the bigger things, the rest is a lot of small things which do add up to a lot in the end. I didn't mention spare tire and jack because you really do need these as I found out recently with 2 punctures in one month, one of which destroyed my tire.
Front bumper beam
Rear bumper beam (my car never had one, we didn'y get them in Oz.)
Battery
Front U-brace
Front seats
Aftermarket exhaust
wheels
2-piece front rotors (DBA5000)
Those are the bigger things, the rest is a lot of small things which do add up to a lot in the end. I didn't mention spare tire and jack because you really do need these as I found out recently with 2 punctures in one month, one of which destroyed my tire.
| u2_m4r1n3 | 04-17-2011 11:19 AM |
[quote="SoCal_Scooby"]What do you guys think are the top 10 weight reduction mods? car needs to pass smog though so no air pump delete[/quote]
What I did or have and is planned:
-Racing seats
-Firewall insulation
-Insulation under carpet
-Single exit exhaust (muffler delete drops more lbs)
-Lightweight battery
-remove spare tire kit
-DD stereo (I removed mine)
-Carbon fiber hood
-carbon fiber/aluminum driveshaft (not installed yet)
-lightweight rotors (planned)
What I did or have and is planned:
-Racing seats
-Firewall insulation
-Insulation under carpet
-Single exit exhaust (muffler delete drops more lbs)
-Lightweight battery
-remove spare tire kit
-DD stereo (I removed mine)
-Carbon fiber hood
-carbon fiber/aluminum driveshaft (not installed yet)
-lightweight rotors (planned)
| XanRules | 04-17-2011 11:36 AM |
Carbon fiber is heavier than stock most of the time.
You do not need or want lightweight rotors.
You do not need or want lightweight rotors.
| A-man07 | 04-17-2011 11:49 AM |
[quote=XanRules;33879264]Carbon fiber is heavier than stock most of the time.
You do not need or want lightweight rotors.[/quote]
That obviously depends on whether you have an aluminum STI hood or steel WRX hood.
Lightweight rotors are fine as long as you know what they're limits are and your intended uses. I've been using The Brake Man 2 piece front rotors on the street for almost 2 years without a single issue and they have both the lightest top hats and rotors available. I use Girodisc 2 piece on the rear.
You do not need or want lightweight rotors.[/quote]
That obviously depends on whether you have an aluminum STI hood or steel WRX hood.
Lightweight rotors are fine as long as you know what they're limits are and your intended uses. I've been using The Brake Man 2 piece front rotors on the street for almost 2 years without a single issue and they have both the lightest top hats and rotors available. I use Girodisc 2 piece on the rear.
| SUBYS R US | 04-17-2011 12:29 PM |
[quote=A-man07;33879323]That obviously depends on whether you have an aluminum STI hood or steel WRX hood.
Lightweight rotors are fine as long as you know what they're limits are and your intended uses. I've been using The Brake Man 2 piece front rotors on the street for almost 2 years without a single issue and they have both the lightest top hats and rotors available. I use Girodisc 2 piece on the rear.[/quote]
my WRX hood is light as crap. I this its the rs that has the steel hood
Lightweight rotors are fine as long as you know what they're limits are and your intended uses. I've been using The Brake Man 2 piece front rotors on the street for almost 2 years without a single issue and they have both the lightest top hats and rotors available. I use Girodisc 2 piece on the rear.[/quote]
my WRX hood is light as crap. I this its the rs that has the steel hood
| u2_m4r1n3 | 04-17-2011 05:56 PM |
[quote="XanRules"]Carbon fiber is heavier than stock most of the time.
You do not need or want lightweight rotors.[/quote]
2008+ has steel hoods ;)
That's why I said what I've done.
You do not need or want lightweight rotors.[/quote]
2008+ has steel hoods ;)
That's why I said what I've done.
| gtasti | 04-17-2011 10:00 PM |
DBA front 2 piece rotors are very nice as well
| 68Cadillac | 04-19-2011 03:14 PM |
[quote=JDwhiteWRX;33869466][IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/RadSupport02.jpg[/IMG][/quote]
Nice. I'm copying that.
Nice. I'm copying that.
| u2_m4r1n3 | 04-19-2011 04:27 PM |
Agreed ^^^ I might have to copy that as well!
| girodisc | 04-19-2011 07:04 PM |
I have come to terms with the fact my Legacy is a tank and there isn't much I can do so I spent my time dropping as much rotational mass as I could and then removing weight from the higher points on the car and relocating heavier bits to lower COG areas.
[quote=gtasti;33882767]DBA front 2 piece rotors are very nice as well[/quote]
DBA Rotors are bolted and not directional vane. If you are lightening your car for better gas mileage and street use they are fine but if you are doing to attack the race track as hard as you can then get a set of 2pc floating directional vane rotors. They will cool better and not be as likely to warp when you start hammering on them.
Johann @ Girodisc
[quote=gtasti;33882767]DBA front 2 piece rotors are very nice as well[/quote]
DBA Rotors are bolted and not directional vane. If you are lightening your car for better gas mileage and street use they are fine but if you are doing to attack the race track as hard as you can then get a set of 2pc floating directional vane rotors. They will cool better and not be as likely to warp when you start hammering on them.
Johann @ Girodisc
| gtasti | 04-19-2011 07:47 PM |
according to this they are pretty good
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PzWFn6lGBs&feature=related"]YouTube - DBA Kangaroo Paw Disc Rotor Ventilation Design[/ame]
and this
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdvUxqKj-Zc&feature=related"]YouTube - DBA 4000 & 5000 series performance brake rotors[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PzWFn6lGBs&feature=related"]YouTube - DBA Kangaroo Paw Disc Rotor Ventilation Design[/ame]
and this
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdvUxqKj-Zc&feature=related"]YouTube - DBA 4000 & 5000 series performance brake rotors[/ame]
| A-man07 | 04-19-2011 08:07 PM |
Have to say I really like my Girodisc 2 piece rotors I have on the rear, and if I hadn't already purchased The Brake Man fronts I woudl have gone with Girodisc 2 piecers there as well.
| JDwhiteWRX | 04-19-2011 09:19 PM |
[quote=68Cadillac;33899452]Nice. I'm copying that.[/quote]
Cool I have been getting ideas from you too ;)
Looking at the lower rad support brackets now, should be some good savings there as they are twice the size.
Cool I have been getting ideas from you too ;)
Looking at the lower rad support brackets now, should be some good savings there as they are twice the size.
| JDwhiteWRX | 04-19-2011 09:31 PM |
[quote=girodisc;33901876]I have come to terms with the fact my Legacy is a tank and there isn't much I can do so I spent my time dropping as much rotational mass as I could and then removing weight from the higher points on the car and relocating heavier bits to lower COG areas.
Johann @ Girodisc[/quote]
Johann do you have any plans to make your 2-piece rear rotors to suit 06 wrx 4pot/2pot setups?
Johann @ Girodisc[/quote]
Johann do you have any plans to make your 2-piece rear rotors to suit 06 wrx 4pot/2pot setups?
| Str8Gone | 04-19-2011 11:18 PM |
I just installed a Helix full Ti catback weighing 11.5 lbs. It replaced the greddy evo2 which weighed about 35lbs. It also got rid of that 2.5" taper that was on the greddy midpipe. Im sitting at about 2820lbs low on gas. I still need to remove my ac components.
[IMG]http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii282/04dubrex/013-1.jpg[/IMG]
Alot of lightness in this pic, aluminum DS and Ti midpipe.
[IMG]http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii282/04dubrex/010-1.jpg[/IMG]
Added some weight with this new shiftknob
[IMG]http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii282/04dubrex/009-4.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii282/04dubrex/013-1.jpg[/IMG]
Alot of lightness in this pic, aluminum DS and Ti midpipe.
[IMG]http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii282/04dubrex/010-1.jpg[/IMG]
Added some weight with this new shiftknob
[IMG]http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii282/04dubrex/009-4.jpg[/IMG]
| JDwhiteWRX | 04-20-2011 12:12 AM |
Nice, how much weight does the aluminum DS save you?
| Str8Gone | 04-20-2011 03:58 PM |
Idk maybe 12 lbs, It frees up a good bit of hp... about 5%
| JDwhiteWRX | 04-20-2011 09:36 PM |
I just ordered 10kg of dry ice, doing the sound deadening removal this weekend and hopefully the pad behind the dash.
| A-man07 | 04-20-2011 09:46 PM |
[quote=JDwhiteWRX;33904305]Nice, how much weight does the aluminum DS save you?[/quote]
[quote=Str8Gone;33910096]Idk maybe 12 lbs, It frees up a good bit of hp... about 5%[/quote]
The lightest DS available, ACPT CF DS, saves 10 lbs over stock (14 lbs total since you have to ditch the heavy protection plate as well). The aluminum one won't be more than 7, maybe less.
5% hp gain would be about 15hp on an STi. Not even close. I could barely feel it when I swapped mine out. Let's try to avoid hyperbole as most of these changes we make by themselves make only very small differences.
[quote=Str8Gone;33910096]Idk maybe 12 lbs, It frees up a good bit of hp... about 5%[/quote]
The lightest DS available, ACPT CF DS, saves 10 lbs over stock (14 lbs total since you have to ditch the heavy protection plate as well). The aluminum one won't be more than 7, maybe less.
5% hp gain would be about 15hp on an STi. Not even close. I could barely feel it when I swapped mine out. Let's try to avoid hyperbole as most of these changes we make by themselves make only very small differences.
| DamnThatRevLimiter | 04-20-2011 10:17 PM |
[quote=A-man07;33879323]That obviously depends on whether you have an aluminum STI hood or steel .[/quote]
[quote=SUBYS R US;33879532]my WRX hood is light as crap. I this its the rs that has the steel hood[/quote]
[quote=XanRules;33879264]Carbon fiber is heavier than stock most of the time.[/quote]
[quote=u2_m4r1n3;33881235]2008+ has steel hoods ;)
That's why I said what I've done.[/quote]
My 2002 wrx has a aluminum and as far as i know it is stock ,to check use a magnite ,it stuck to my fenders but not my hood. also aluminum does not spark when grinding on ,but steel sparks yellow/orange and titaniumsparks white. about 2008 hood idk check them out.
[quote=JDwhiteWRX;33904305]Nice, how much weight does the aluminum DS save you?[/quote]
[quote=Str8Gone;33910096]Idk maybe 12 lbs, It frees up a good bit of hp... about 5%[/quote]
[quote=A-man07;33913182]The lightest DS available, ACPT CF DS, saves 10 lbs over stock (14 lbs total since you have to ditch the heavy protection plate as well). The aluminum one won't be more than 7, maybe less.
5% hp gain would be about 15hp on an STi. Not even close. I could barely feel it when I swapped mine out. Let's try to avoid hyperbole as most of these changes we make by themselves make only very small differences.[/quote]
Some of those weights seem more drastic than i remember i have an aluminum one and [B]I Hate it .[/B] Fitment is horrable you have to bang on this cut that blah blah. Should fit like a glove. Also mine causes a vibration from 80mph to 120mph that i have notice .I would take a stock Sti one over mine 10 times out of 10. The weight difference of mine was not more than a couple pounds . I also could have a poor quality one , i imagine quality control is not a high priorty search the forums and other people have had problems too.
I am Not trying to hate or be a jerk i just want to make fellow subaru owners aware of my experience.
[quote=SUBYS R US;33879532]my WRX hood is light as crap. I this its the rs that has the steel hood[/quote]
[quote=XanRules;33879264]Carbon fiber is heavier than stock most of the time.[/quote]
[quote=u2_m4r1n3;33881235]2008+ has steel hoods ;)
That's why I said what I've done.[/quote]
My 2002 wrx has a aluminum and as far as i know it is stock ,to check use a magnite ,it stuck to my fenders but not my hood. also aluminum does not spark when grinding on ,but steel sparks yellow/orange and titaniumsparks white. about 2008 hood idk check them out.
[quote=JDwhiteWRX;33904305]Nice, how much weight does the aluminum DS save you?[/quote]
[quote=Str8Gone;33910096]Idk maybe 12 lbs, It frees up a good bit of hp... about 5%[/quote]
[quote=A-man07;33913182]The lightest DS available, ACPT CF DS, saves 10 lbs over stock (14 lbs total since you have to ditch the heavy protection plate as well). The aluminum one won't be more than 7, maybe less.
5% hp gain would be about 15hp on an STi. Not even close. I could barely feel it when I swapped mine out. Let's try to avoid hyperbole as most of these changes we make by themselves make only very small differences.[/quote]
Some of those weights seem more drastic than i remember i have an aluminum one and [B]I Hate it .[/B] Fitment is horrable you have to bang on this cut that blah blah. Should fit like a glove. Also mine causes a vibration from 80mph to 120mph that i have notice .I would take a stock Sti one over mine 10 times out of 10. The weight difference of mine was not more than a couple pounds . I also could have a poor quality one , i imagine quality control is not a high priorty search the forums and other people have had problems too.
I am Not trying to hate or be a jerk i just want to make fellow subaru owners aware of my experience.
| Str8Gone | 04-20-2011 11:43 PM |
The aluminum DS is lighter than the carbon but it a pita to fit properly. I managed to gain a tenth in the quarter by switching to alum DS. I run very consistent so I can notice small improvements.
| JDwhiteWRX | 04-21-2011 03:17 AM |
So I took off the big horse shoe (u-brace) and drove around for a week with it removed while waiting for the h-brace to show up, didn't notice any difference without it except the steering feels lighter because I dropped another 11kg off the front end :lol:
The h-brace is not meant as a replacement for it, it is meant to bolt to it and tie it all together. What I have done is remove the u-brace altogether and use a couple of cheap sockets as spacers where the u-brace would usually be (see below).
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010020-3.jpg[/IMG]
I also bought one of these so I can still mount the plastic undertray [url]http://oswaldperformance.com/WRXUNDERTRAYMOUNTKIT.aspx[/url]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010018-2.jpg[/IMG]
The h-brace is not meant as a replacement for it, it is meant to bolt to it and tie it all together. What I have done is remove the u-brace altogether and use a couple of cheap sockets as spacers where the u-brace would usually be (see below).
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010020-3.jpg[/IMG]
I also bought one of these so I can still mount the plastic undertray [url]http://oswaldperformance.com/WRXUNDERTRAYMOUNTKIT.aspx[/url]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010018-2.jpg[/IMG]
| JDwhiteWRX | 04-21-2011 05:31 AM |
Post whoring now but Just knocked this up before dinner, came out pretty good :cool:
Replaced solid steel bonnet prop with hollow aluminium home made one.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010003-8.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010001-6.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010005-9.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010008-5.jpg[/IMG]
Cost me $10 for material and about 40 minutes of my time :-D
Replaced solid steel bonnet prop with hollow aluminium home made one.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010003-8.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010001-6.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010005-9.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010008-5.jpg[/IMG]
Cost me $10 for material and about 40 minutes of my time :-D
| A-man07 | 04-21-2011 06:10 AM |
[quote=JDwhiteWRX;33915224]So I took off the big horse shoe (u-brace) and drove around for a week with it removed while waiting for the h-brace to show up, didn't notice any difference without it except the steering feels lighter because I dropped another 11kg off the front end :lol:
The h-brace is not meant as a replacement for it, it is meant to bolt to it and tie it all together. What I have done is remove the u-brace altogether and use a couple of cheap sockets as spacers where the u-brace would usually be (see below).
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010020-3.jpg[/IMG]
[/quote]
I'm afraid you may have defeated the purpose of the H-brace by having to use the spacers (sockets). Under load you'll get lateral deflection there as the mounting tab isn't flush to an area of frame.
Whiteline makes a brace that can be used with the subframe removed.
The h-brace is not meant as a replacement for it, it is meant to bolt to it and tie it all together. What I have done is remove the u-brace altogether and use a couple of cheap sockets as spacers where the u-brace would usually be (see below).
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010020-3.jpg[/IMG]
[/quote]
I'm afraid you may have defeated the purpose of the H-brace by having to use the spacers (sockets). Under load you'll get lateral deflection there as the mounting tab isn't flush to an area of frame.
Whiteline makes a brace that can be used with the subframe removed.
| JDwhiteWRX | 04-21-2011 06:25 AM |
[quote=A-man07;33915467]I'm afraid you may have defeated the purpose of the H-brace by having to use the spacers (sockets). Under load you'll get lateral deflection there as the mounting tab isn't flush to an area of frame.
Whiteline makes a brace that can be used with the subframe removed.[/quote]
I looked at the whiteline version (like yours) but because I have a 5-speed gearbox it means I would have to remove the brace each time I changed gearbox fluids and because the way it bolts up with the bolts that go through the front control arm bushings this would be a major PITA.
I could possible make up some better aluminum spacers that lock the brace against the chassis more in a lateral direction.
Whiteline makes a brace that can be used with the subframe removed.[/quote]
I looked at the whiteline version (like yours) but because I have a 5-speed gearbox it means I would have to remove the brace each time I changed gearbox fluids and because the way it bolts up with the bolts that go through the front control arm bushings this would be a major PITA.
I could possible make up some better aluminum spacers that lock the brace against the chassis more in a lateral direction.
| Supraru | 04-21-2011 06:42 AM |
[quote=Str8Gone;33910096]Idk maybe 12 lbs, It frees up a good bit of hp... about 5%[/quote]
Don't believe everything you read please. That comment is lol funny.
Don't believe everything you read please. That comment is lol funny.
| u2_m4r1n3 | 04-21-2011 09:43 AM |
[quote="DamnThatRevLimiter"]
My 2002 wrx has a aluminum and as far as i know it is stock ,to check use a magnite ,it stuck to my fenders but not my hood. also aluminum does not spark when grinding on ,but steel sparks yellow/orange and titaniumsparks white. about 2008 hood idk check them out.[/quote]
Like I said, 2008+ have steel hoods. Science fact.
My 2002 wrx has a aluminum and as far as i know it is stock ,to check use a magnite ,it stuck to my fenders but not my hood. also aluminum does not spark when grinding on ,but steel sparks yellow/orange and titaniumsparks white. about 2008 hood idk check them out.[/quote]
Like I said, 2008+ have steel hoods. Science fact.
| DamnThatRevLimiter | 04-21-2011 01:18 PM |
I agree for 2008^^^If the magnet sticks.
| u2_m4r1n3 | 04-21-2011 03:56 PM |
[quote="DamnThatRevLimiter"]If the magnet sticks.[/quote]
Hmmmm....
Hmmmm....
| 68Cadillac | 04-22-2011 10:48 AM |
[quote=JDwhiteWRX;33915403]
Replaced solid steel bonnet prop with hollow aluminium home made one.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010001-6.jpg[/IMG]
[/quote]
Before you go further go back and add the 'hook' to the hood end of that prop-rod. The hook prevents the wind from smashing your hood into your windshield.
Replaced solid steel bonnet prop with hollow aluminium home made one.
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010001-6.jpg[/IMG]
[/quote]
Before you go further go back and add the 'hook' to the hood end of that prop-rod. The hook prevents the wind from smashing your hood into your windshield.
| JDwhiteWRX | 04-23-2011 04:19 AM |
[quote=68Cadillac;33926542]Before you go further go back and add the 'hook' to the hood end of that prop-rod. The hook prevents the wind from smashing your hood into your windshield.[/quote]
Damn thanks for the tip, didn't think of that :(
Took another 10kg out of the car today by removing the sound deadner. Didn't have time to take the dash out so just grabbed as much foam out as I could reach. How hard is it to take the dash out and will that enable me to get all the foam out?
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010020-4.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010015-4.jpg[/IMG]
Damn thanks for the tip, didn't think of that :(
Took another 10kg out of the car today by removing the sound deadner. Didn't have time to take the dash out so just grabbed as much foam out as I could reach. How hard is it to take the dash out and will that enable me to get all the foam out?
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010020-4.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd209/sivadleoj/P1010015-4.jpg[/IMG]
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