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Who is your racing God/Hero?.... part 1

RaceComp Engineering 12-22-2004 05:59 PM

Who is your racing God/Hero?....
In my early years it was Mario Andretti, then as I got older there was something about this guy named .."Senna" that seemed very on edge all the time with his driving style and antics. Later on , I was mesmorized by Willy T. Ribbs's driving style and attitude, and then as of late, Tsuchiya (JGTC and drift king) has just impressed me very much. Carlos Sainz and McRae both are incredible,.....but 3 stand out that seem to drive from their heart,......

1. Senna
2. Tsuchiya
3. Sainz

3 different drivers from different era's in motorsports. If anyone has has the dream of being able to choose 3 drivers style's to combine into 1 ,..knows this is a sweet combo.

Oh, let not forget, Hans Stuck and lately Bill Aubberlen. These guys rarely make mistakes and bring home the win, no matter what the case.

Oh, well, these are my hero's and they motivate me. Even my 4 year old knows who Tsuchiya is.................lol


who are your hero's?.......


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kfoote 12-22-2004 06:29 PM

In the Prost/Senna days, I was always a Prost fan. Senna was faster, but in his prime Prost was always thinking about the big picture.

From the US Open wheel scene, at about the same time there was Rick Mears, who was VERY good on road courses even though most of his wins cam on ovals.

From the "other" category (bias b/c I've worked with him the last 2 yrs) I'll take Bill Auberlen in any car, on any road course, over anyone. The best indication that I have of how good he really is is the 2003 SPEED World Challenge GT series, where he was consistently 0.5-0.75 sec/lap faster than his teammates in identical cars, and Boris Said is not exactly a slouch.

My memories only go back to the early 80's, and there are many drivers prior to them that I respect looking back, but never followed in their prime.

Honorable mentions:
Al Holbert
Rob Dyson
James Weaver
Michael Schumacher
Ayrton Senna
Marcus Grunholm
Hans Stuck
Derek Bell
Walter Rohrl
Hurley Heywood
Tony Stewart
Harry Gant

...and I could go on for a LONG time
artkevin 12-22-2004 06:30 PM

Gilles, Jackie and Aryton, Much respect for Michael Schumacher just don't like him that much.
MattGC8 12-22-2004 06:38 PM

As a young kid, I often cheered for Emerson Fittipaldi. At first I think it was the color of his car(yeah, that young), as I grew older, it was his finesse and prowess(it's also easy to cheer for someone who wins alot!). To this day I can't think of anyone that I truly get excited about watching. I'm starting to warm up to Petter, but I think I'm waiting for the next great American driver to follow. Bill Aubberlen is an amazing driver, but I'm also a sucker for the marque of the car they drive as well.
thesmokingman 12-22-2004 06:50 PM

[COLOR=Blue]Tazio Nuvolari's[/COLOR] legend is full of exploits of daring and almost unbelievable personal courage and will to win. He would continuously beat better equipped rivals and come back from numerous injuries only to compete in bandages. In his entire career Tazio Nuvolari won almost two hundred major races and only came in second 17 times.

[COLOR=Blue]Michael Schumacher[/COLOR] "The German" in his short time in Formula One already has made a legend for himself. His first 2 World Championships, wins were with inferior equipment. He has the ability to destroy teammates with his raw speed. Since then he has become the most prolific champion of our time.

[COLOR=Blue]Ayrton Senna[/COLOR] the greatest driver I ever saw was according to Stirling Moss "...the only driver who could be spoken of in the same breath as Fangio and Clark. The mere sight of his yellow helmet in a drivers mirror would raise any drivers pulse. His battles against Prost reminded one of the famous epic battles between Frazer and Ali with neither side giving quarter. I fondly remember him as the Rainman.
cooleyjb 12-22-2004 06:52 PM

Hans Stuck
that guy is insanely good

Out there but near the top

Mark Donohue
Hurley Haywood
Juan Fangio II camel GTP
Parker Johnstone camel light days
Senna
Stroker Ace
Phil Hill
Most early race drivers (people died every race it seemed and they still did it)
ChrisW 12-22-2004 07:00 PM

And no one mentions Alex Zenardi... :(

1) Alex (I never quit) Zenardi
2) Senna
3) Schumacher
pio!pio! 12-22-2004 07:04 PM

When I was a kid watching CART on ABC I would cheer for Al Unser Jr in the late 80's/early 90's....now not so much :DDDD

Right now I like Takuma Sato, Petter Solberg, Boris Said, Ron Fellows
theBob 12-22-2004 07:09 PM

Gilles Villeneuve. What a competitor! He drove a complete 'bathtub' of a Ferrari to actually win a couple of races in '81. He won Monaco in a turbo vs. normally aspirated cars !! He scared more people than Senna did.
3 Top F1: Gilles, Schumi and Senna.
WRXedUSA 12-22-2004 07:10 PM

Dale Earnhardt <-- All time Fav.
Stig Blomqvist
Alex Zanardi
Carlos Sainz
Al Unser Jr.
Kha0S 12-22-2004 07:15 PM

Walter Rohrl
Ari Vatanen
HoRo1 12-22-2004 07:17 PM

In no particular order in my lifetime;
Graham Hill
Jackie Stewart
Jim Clark
Stirling Moss
Paddy Hopkirk

Pre me
Rudolf Carraciola
Tazio Nuvolari
Bernd Rosemeyer
Porter 12-22-2004 07:38 PM

ARI VATANEN.

That is all.

Thank you.
Templar 12-22-2004 08:22 PM

I almost hate to say it but

Rick Mears!!!
M. Hurst 12-22-2004 08:25 PM

A.J. Foyt

A few years ago IMS brought cars out from the museum, and had some of their original drivers parade them around the track (at about 25mph), a different driver each day the track was open for practice or quals (1999 I think). On pole day, A.J. was to drive his 1961 winning car, a front engined Watson / offy roadster.

Instead of driving around the track slow like everyone else, AJ blows into turn 1 sideways at (according to the speed trap on the front straight), 130mph. AJ was sawing at the wheel sliding around turns 1 and 2 on 40 year old, 6" wide tires and the old offenhauser was screaming as he disappeared down the backstretch...awesome.

1983 24 hours of Daytona...Bob Wollek pulls Preston Henn's Porsche 935 in for a night driver change, and is stunned to find that AJ has just been hired as a relief driver. Foyt looks at Wollek and Yells "Boy, has this got 4 gears or five?" Wollek and Foyt win the race.

Favorite rally driver : Juha Kankunen

Mike Hurst
Technical Director
Rally-America
baileypicks24 12-22-2004 08:48 PM

Dale Earnhardt
Alex Zanardi
Ayrton Senna

....I think I have a thing for drivers killed/seriously injured while racing :(
SoCal Scott 12-22-2004 08:56 PM

For me, coming from the BMW background, Billy Auberlen is my #1. He may actually have more series championships in the last 10 years than Micheal Schumacher.

After that, there are a lot of great drivers that seem to do well no matter what they get to drive and can win in different series: Nic Jonsson, Hans Stuck, Boris Said, Scott Pruett, Randy Pobst, Max Angilelli (sp?), etc.

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artkevin 12-22-2004 09:41 PM

[QUOTE=pio!pio!]When I was a kid watching CART on ABC I would cheer for Al Unser Jr in the late 80's/early 90's....now not so much :DDDD

Right now I like Takuma Sato, Petter Solberg, Boris Said, Ron Fellows[/QUOTE]
A vote for Taco. I am surprised pio!poi! I thought I was the only american that liked him. I am sorry to have left out Zinardi from my list. He is one of the most insperational humans I have ever heard of.
dentsport 12-22-2004 09:50 PM

Walter Rorhl
Carlos Sainz
Jean Ragnotti
C. McRae in the early/mid 90's

Of course Senna
Rich10 12-22-2004 10:42 PM

Currently: Michael Schumacher because he is the best driver with the best team (although I would also cast a biased vote for Solberg).

Recent past: Niki Lauda because he won the first F1 race that I watched in the early 1970's.

Far past and overall favorite: Fangio because the written reports of his driving are nearly beyond belief. He could win in anything in any type of racing.
AlpineFD 12-22-2004 10:54 PM

takumi?

j/k :lol:
BriDrive 12-22-2004 11:01 PM

J M Fangio
M Schumacher
M Alboreto
R Pobst

Fabrizio Giovanardi
pittspilot 12-22-2004 11:06 PM

#3 Earnhardt.
Juan-Manuel Fangio (Possibly the greatest)
Jody Schecter (First World Champion I ever met)
Dan Gurney
Sarel Van Der Merwe (Best Alfa Driver EVER)
no-coast-punk 12-22-2004 11:42 PM

Haha... only 1 mention each of mine. Mark Donohue and Ari Vatanen.

Solberg also makes the list just for his absolute love of what he does and his absolute passion and enthusiasm.
esteve 12-23-2004 01:48 AM

[QUOTE=theBob]Gilles Villeneuve. What a competitor! He drove a complete 'bathtub' of a Ferrari to actually win a couple of races in '81. He won Monaco in a turbo vs. normally aspirated cars !! He scared more people than Senna did.
3 Top F1: Gilles, Schumi and Senna.[/QUOTE]

I second that! I really admire how he worked his way from rock bottom to the top of F1. And watching the footage of him banging wheels with Arnoux was unreal.

Even Jackie Stewart said he had the best car control he'd ever seen...other aspects of Gilles he wasn't so complimentary! Enzo Ferrari compared him to Nuvolari. You get the feeling that if he was still alive he'd be playing around in the D1GP doing drifting in his 50s, probably kicking some butt too!

Of course, Senna is right at the top too.
greg donovan 12-23-2004 01:53 AM

ari
juan pablo
tommi
Joel Gat, 1.8L 12-23-2004 02:26 AM

Hello,

Hmm, am I allowed to vote for someone who is not yet a god but has the skills and potential to work his way to quasi-god / godling status in the next decade?

I have yet to see him get into a car and not be faster than all other drivers of the car, regardless of whether they have more experience in general, in racing, in that car or any other car, or even if they have more prestegious experience than he has.

He started a little late and will never make it to F1, I'm sure, but someday, his name may be one of the biggest in production-based or even prototype racing.

Who is he? :cool:Gary Sheehan:cool:

Joel
NWWagon 12-23-2004 02:38 AM

Rally

Richard Burns, I certainly hope he'll be able to get back into the drivers seat again, he was always my favorite (mostly cause I coulkd understand what he was saying j/k)

F1

J Button He's got the mad skillz to keep up with "Mikey" plus I'm a long time Honda fan

NASCAR

I was always a Richard Petty fan, more reciently I've liked Jr.

other than that I really don't know the drivers in other types of racing other than what I hear everynow and then on Speed.
az ej20 fan 12-23-2004 04:17 AM

Petter Solberg
John Force
Tony Stewart
Gilles Panizzi
Boris Said
Gary Sheehan
John Felstead
Phil Hill
Dan Gurney
Barry 12-23-2004 06:19 AM

IMSA fans surely remember Peter Gregg.....superb driver

[url]http://www.motorsportshalloffame.com/halloffame/1992/Peter_Gregg_main.htm[/url]
grandpa rex 12-23-2004 07:03 AM

1. Senna. I began following F1 seriously in 1993. that year, Senna drove a McLaren with Ford V8 power. I don't even think that it was a factory sponsorship - Benneton was the factory team I believe. He won 5 races that year driving decidedly inferior equipment. In Montreal, I watched him come from 8th (or so) on the grid to 4th on the first lap. It was breathtaking.

2. Dale Earnhardt. I'm not the biggest NASCAR fan, but E was in a horrible accident at Talledaga in the mid to late 90's. He broke his sternum, collarbone and separated a shoulder. The next week, he got into his car at Watkins Glen and qualified it on the pole. Tough? This guy defined it.

Honorable mention:

Nigel Mansell pushes his failed car across the finish line.
Alex Zanardi - not the greatest drive, but tough, fearless and inspirational
Mika Hakkinen - His pass on Schumi and Zonta at Spa will be a classic forever
Danno 12-23-2004 08:26 AM

Just because nobody's mentioned him yet - Helio Castroneves. IMHO Helio has the best attitude and competitive spirit out there...you'll never hear him whining in a post-race interview because something didn't go his way. He hasn't won many races in the last year or two, but he's always there at the end because he doesn't make foolish mistakes that take him and others out of the race.
GQ 12-23-2004 08:33 AM

Michael Delaney
Mario Andretti
skuttledude 12-23-2004 08:39 AM

Senna
CTKAG 12-23-2004 09:05 AM

I can't believe no-one has mentioned the *Awesome* One - Raj!! :lol:

Seriously - Mark Donohue. Mark had the ability to get in just about any car, on any track, in any type of racing, and WIN! Phenomenal talent Trans-Am, NASCAR, Indy cars, F1, etc.

Others: Dan Gurney, Parnelli Jones, Little Al (in his earlier days), certainly AJ, Senna & Prost, and even Mario are worth mentioning.

-Keith-
AlanO 12-23-2004 09:14 AM

[IMG]http://www.ddavid.com/formula1/images/sen22.jpg[/IMG]
MulletSlayer 12-23-2004 09:41 AM

Hans Stuck
Walter Rorhl
greg donovan 12-23-2004 10:21 AM

wow there alot of closet nacsar fans out there. i expected someone like AJ from mike hurst but the rest of you surprise me. i appreciate your admiration of talent. as far as NASCAR goes i would put tony stewart on my list for modern drivers.
parker/slc/gc8fan 12-23-2004 10:52 AM

marcus gronholm for his interview skills, and petter for his ability to push beyond normal pace.

cant forget fangio, a man who excelled when racers would die every day.

and an honerable mention for jackie stewart, all because of his F1 win at nordschliefe in horrible rain.
Subie Gal 12-23-2004 10:57 AM

Senna ---->no brainer

Juha Kankkunen

Tommi Makinen

Carlos Sainz

in no particular order :D

Jamie
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Jason02WRXCT 12-23-2004 11:07 AM

Gotta say Schumi just becuse he is the greatest F1 driver out there.

I also am a fan of Fernando Alonso. He shows a lot of heart and can be a geat driver with a little more maturity.
Georgethefierce 12-23-2004 11:21 AM

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thesmokingman 12-23-2004 11:55 AM

[QUOTE=Jason02WRXCT]Gotta say Schumi just becuse he is the greatest F1 driver out there.[/QUOTE]

I think there is some serious merit to this. I had him in my list of 3 as well. I wonder is people had forgotten how fast Schumi was actually was when he battled with Prost and Senna is his rookie years in his less than stellar car.
Fred 12-23-2004 02:03 PM

I can't believe nobody's mentioned the great Tom Hoppe... :eek:










:lol:
pio!pio! 12-23-2004 02:05 PM

[QUOTE=Subie Gal]Senna ---->no brainer

Juha Kankkunen

Tommi Makinen

Carlos Sainz

in no particular order :D

Jamie
[url]www.subiegal.com[/url][/QUOTE]
whaa? no burnsie?
dave bruener 12-23-2004 02:11 PM

I gotta go with Big E as well for the same reason that grandpa rex sited.

Somebody no one has mentioned yet is John Sourtes (sp?). He is the only man to win both an F1 and MotoGP championships. He is from the early 60's era I think. I have seen him a few times on Speed Channel when they cover vintage stuff, like Goodwood. He is always a fascinating interview.
rallynutdon 12-23-2004 02:38 PM

Al Holbert
Mark Donahue
Mario Andretti
Akarui 12-23-2004 02:41 PM

I know I will probly get bombed for this but my top 3 list is

1. Micheal Schumacher
2. Hans Stuck
3. Takumo Sato - yeah I know he's new but take a look at his rise into the ranks of F1 and you will see why I am so intreagued by him.
TOM MAC 12-23-2004 03:09 PM

Dan Gurney

Jim Clark

Don Garlits
M 12-23-2004 03:20 PM

Dan Gurney

engineer and driver. smart guy, hard to find that in a race car driver
FujiFast 12-23-2004 03:36 PM

Keiichi Tsuchiya - simply amazing
* Naoki Hattori - my GF's vote
Bobby Rahal - you can't beat the coke bottle glasses on an Indy track :p
Petter Solberg - points for a proven champ

(tried to be diverse with my list here as I generally prefer touring car racing)
digitalpimp 12-23-2004 04:21 PM

#1 = loeb, because he's so precise.
sato because.... uh yeah. he's good.
taniguchi, when he's drifting it looks like he's asleep, and he seems to do quite well in group N road racing. and having the nickname NOB - no ones better

they are my favorite racers, but at any given performace rally you may hear me yell "utecht is my hero!!!!11"
speedypete 12-23-2004 08:53 PM

1. Without a doubt Ayrton Senna. The guy was so quick and such a competitor. NO ONE in his class!

Senna Rules!!

Nowadays it's probably Loeb, although I don't like him very much. He kicked ass in the race of champions.

Favorite is Solberg.
Rapid_Roo 12-23-2004 09:22 PM

Ayrton Senna - pure talent
Al Holbert - gentileman racer
Michael Schumacher - overall pacakage
Hans Stuck - when I grow up I want to be him
Derek Bell - in car commentary :lol:
Walter Rohrl - ultimate rally cars need ultimate drivers
ALex Zanardi - an example to live by
Colin McRae - because he made Subaru popular
Dan Gurney - for President
Mark Donahue - 1200Hp Porsche enough said.
Carlos Sainz - great rally driver
Marcus Gronholm - Honesty
Gilles Panizzi - knows how to take care of the fans
John Force - I think his mouth has as Hp as his cars sometimes :lol:
Keiichi Tsuchiya - bridges the gap between racing and entertainment
rkkwan 12-24-2004 03:05 AM

Well, nobody has mentioned these names, so I will:

Nobuhibe Tachi, Masahiro Hasemi, Hoshino Kazuyoshi

I first know these names when they were racing touring cars in the Ghia race in Macau in the 70's. I especially remembered Nobuhide's Corolla Levin against Hoshino's Sylvia in the late 70's. And all three have done great things to Japanese racing from then till now.

- [b]Nobuhide Tachi[/b] later founded TOMS.
- [b]Masahiro Hasemi[/b] started in the 1976 F1 race at Fuji; and has raced all kinds of cars - F2, GT, everything up until the 90's.
- [b]Hoshino Kazuyoshi[/b] started in both the 76 & 77 F1 races at Fuji. He was known as the "fastest man in Japan", and has also raced everything, including JGTC till last year I believe.
TV3WRX 12-24-2004 11:22 PM

Good thread.

I grew up working at my Grandfather's Sunoco gas station in Virginia in the 60's and 70's until out of high school. He and all the boys that worked for him were early NASCAR freaks, bigtime. We built a lot of cars. Even my sweet old Grandmother drove a hotrodded 64 Galaxy 500 with 4 barrel, cam, side pipes and Keystones...funny. We followed Yarborough, Pearson, lots of guys through the years. They were all tough, poor, self-made daredevils, not like some of the media-made guys we have today. We knew every move they all made and every word they said, and all their engine tricks. Also followed AJ Foyt at Indy in those days, the guy was tough as nails.

BUT: When CanAm came around, Sunoco sponsored the Sunoco Special 917 Porsches, driven by Mark Donohue. He, and that car, were godlike to me. I had the posters of it everywhere, had a 45 record single of the sound. I dreamed about it constantly. Had the model. Had the Die cast. That car and that driver changed everything for me. Nascar to me was about engines and scrappiness....cool enough in the day, but the 917 and Donohue to me were the pure essence of racing. I still feel that way.

So Donahue is my number 1 by a mile.

Jim Clark also had my interest and respect for a long time, he is #2.

The Shelby crews/cars of Lemans mid 60's, including Gurney/Foyt #3

Jackie Stewart, #4, he changed everything about the racing world and F1

WRC drivers #5: Rally again changed my whole understanding of cars in early 90's, and of driving and racing. I drove a lot of dirt roads as a kid, and on a lot of snow while living in Vermont and working in Montreal. But what rally drivers do on loose surfaces just blew my mind. Colin McRae, Ari Vatenen, Carlos Sainz.

Today: Boris Said #6. He is so so underated. In May of this year he became the first American to ever podium in the Nurburgring 24. He is so intense, loves racing so much, and such a nice guy despite his badboy image. He can drive anything well, including rally cars. He inspires me in a lot of ways. Scott Speed has also inspired me this year by living in Europe and winning the F Renault title in dominating fashion. There has not been an American driver in Europe with that kind of talent in a long long time, he will make my list in the future, I bet.

I'd like to put one of the current F1 guys on my list, but I just can't. MS is the greatest ever of course, but I'm just not inspired by him or any of the current crop at all. I appreciate the skill, but they are just too machine-like and suave. Nothing raw about them at all. I like raw.

If I were to take this list to 10, Senna would be on there, as would one of the Dakar or Baja 1000 guys, there are lots of good ones.

Happy Holidays.
Apex Rex 12-25-2004 01:56 AM

My favorite drivers have to be Hans Stuck and Bill Auberlean.

I love watching motorsports, no matter who's driving or what the event is.
ANZAC_1915 12-25-2004 03:41 PM

1. Roger Clark -- most sideways ever -- quote from one of the better drivers in the London-Sydney marathon, they thought they were doing pretty well when Roger Clark passed them (sideways) in a corner going about 20MPH faster..... and my all time favorite Roger Clark quote when asked how he prepared for the physical rigors of such a long rally "Well I walked the mile to the pub every night."

2. Bjorn Waldegard -- as the Evolution of Rallying says, "The All Rounder", and anyone who still wants to do donuts in his 60's (Goodwood...) is all right by me.

3. Ari -- for the times he could keep it on the road, fiercely fast.

Honorable mention to Michelle Mouton -- to quote David Sutton while we were driving around at Ramada "the most graceful, charming, attractive woman you'll ever meet, but she turns into a demon behind the wheel of a rally car".
Trunk_Monkey 12-25-2004 04:23 PM

Petter Solberg - Feel obligated to...
AndyRoo 12-25-2004 04:57 PM

I'm a young guy, but Moss and Nuvolari are my heroes.

So many great stories about both.

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