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X-Games Rally pics, vids & discussion thread. part 6

ricochet 08-10-2006 12:22 PM

[QUOTE=Kostamojen]What a waste...

20 seconds of rally talk, and that was it, no pics or vids or anything.[/QUOTE]

Props to Travis for getting in plugs for his sponsors, Red Bull (nice hat!) and Subaru, however. Though, yeah, Jay didn't really let him talk about much. I also got the feeling that Rally was a bit of a dead topic to the audience. That or it was just too awkward to get in any more.

Too bad, too, since they had footage for a ride-along with Ken Block during the Super Special Stage, where I hear he smacks the car around pretty good. Probably cut so they could show multiple clips from that goofy Disney show.

Not sure about everyone else in America, but I'd rather see rally car action than see some dude get hit in the head multiple times with baseballs.

Ryan Douthit
Subiesport Magazine
[url]http://www.subiesport.com[/url]
STiMULi 08-10-2006 03:53 PM

[QUOTE=ricochet] I'd rather see rally car action than see some dude get hit in the head multiple times with baseballs. [/QUOTE]


Unless it was whoever decided on putting Pirellis on Subarus :)

TG that's over soon :D
STI_SLC 08-10-2006 04:01 PM

this was a great showing. period... of course all of the cynical heads are gonna come
out of the cracks and dis the finer details..
pastrana? remove all of your opinions and break it down. this kid is good. so much
talent for anything with a throttle.
my boy block came in with a bronze which really stoked me out since he and travis
were the main reasons this was even in xgames. period.
as far as WRC, word around the industry is that he has already been looked at as the first driver from the US to ever compete in WRC. he is only 22 so i really dont
see this as a slim possibility.. i see it as when.
with 33 concussions under his belt from moto (yes 33) there will be a point when
hucking a motocross bike is not going to be very high on his list.
i have already heard reports and interest of making the rally portion of X, twice as big for next year.. personally, i cant wait.
great job for the top 3.. TP, CM, KB!
now when does the amatuer tarmac / canyon carving circuit get organized.......... please?
WRXedUSA 08-10-2006 04:02 PM

[url]http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor/2006-08-10-rally-pastrana_x.htm[/url]
Easy Rider 08-10-2006 05:02 PM

Travis and Ken have already done recce at the WRC Mexico and rumors are that they will do the same at least one time this year at another event.

Yes - I think it is a matter of when Travis tries the WRC - not if. My guess is the when will be quite soon!

Thanks to all for a GREAT show at the X Games.
ricochet 08-10-2006 05:43 PM

When I asked Pastrana about WRC last fall, he said his intention is to be the best in the world at whatever he does. And in rally, that means winning the WRC. So yes, just a matter of time.

Ryan Douthit
PastranaSport Magazine (j/k!)
[url]http://www.subiesport.com[/url]
Kostamojen 08-10-2006 06:13 PM

[QUOTE=WRXedUSA][url]http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor/2006-08-10-rally-pastrana_x.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
[quote=USAToday]Pastrana has invited Edstrom and his wife to live at Pastrana's home near San Antonio so they can train for a run at the World Rally Championship Series.[/quote]
Is this true Chris???
STI_SLC 08-10-2006 07:38 PM

i would see them training at the DC Gravel Lab that is coming soon to utah before living together in san antonio.
eitherway..... HUGE for rally, worldwide.

nice work, guys...
greg donovan 08-10-2006 07:47 PM

[QUOTE=STI_SLC]i would see them training at the DC Gravel Lab that is coming soon to utah before living together in san antonio.
eitherway..... HUGE for rally, worldwide.

nice work, guys...[/QUOTE]

so that is what christian was hinting at.
WRXMaster 08-10-2006 08:34 PM

[QUOTE=STI_SLC]i would see them training at the DC Gravel Lab that is coming soon to utah before living together in san antonio.
eitherway..... HUGE for rally, worldwide.

nice work, guys...[/QUOTE]


I thought travis lived in maryland?
bjorn240 08-10-2006 09:57 PM

Travis lives in Maryland and owns a ranch in San Antonio. I live in NYC, and will do so for at least the next 3 to 5 years. I've been invited to go visit though. Apparently, there are jetskis, and I've only ridden a jetski once, so that seems a good excuse!

If we get invited to the Gravel Lab, we'll definitely go. That place looks sweet! I live in constant low-level dread that Ken will just use it to get faster and faster, and deny us all access to the Bat Cave! You wouldn't do that to us, would you, Ken? Ken? Hello?

I haven't hinted at anything, I don't think. In 2007, we hope to win the Rally America championship and possibly run some other events, time and budget allowing. As Ken said on Specialstage, twice now, I'm on a need to know basis! :)

- Christian
WRXedUSA 08-10-2006 10:03 PM

:lol:
wvallwheeldrive 08-10-2006 10:46 PM

As you fans we need to know
KBlock 08-11-2006 12:07 AM

Christian - I would tell you everything if you just asked the right questions. :)

Did you have the correct year in your last post?

You can come to Utah soon. I promise.


-KB
greg donovan 08-11-2006 01:54 AM

[QUOTE=KBlock]Christian - I would tell you everything if you just asked the right questions. :)

[B]Did you have the correct year in your last post?[/B]
You can come to Utah soon. I promise.


-KB[/QUOTE]

the way i read that it seems to me that he means to win it [I]again[/I] in '07.
STI_SLC 08-11-2006 02:15 AM

ha........ i guess we can all consider ourselves nerds, now? luckily im not TOO local here..

-c j s-

and i was also wondering about the year in that post.. seems you
still have one to win in 06... or are you two already claiming the title? ;)
good getting to hang with you guys in santa clarita..

hopefully we'll get some tarmac time at miller before the snow falls...

peaces.
bjorn240 08-11-2006 09:20 AM

Yeah. I assumed the question was about our plans for 2007. We'd like to win it in 2006, too, but I didn't think that was in question.
STI_SLC 08-11-2006 11:50 AM

jus giving you a hard time... you guys seem pretty poised to claim it..
keep it up, as far as i know ken is right behind you and commited as hell.

have a good day.
bjorn240 08-11-2006 12:19 PM

Yeah, Ken and Alex are only 2 or 3 points behind (Rally-America is best 7 of 9 events), so it could go down to the wire.
WRXedUSA 08-11-2006 12:24 PM

[QUOTE=STI_SLC]jus giving you a hard time... you guys seem pretty poised to claim it..
keep it up, as far as i know ken is right behind you and commited as hell.

have a good day.[/QUOTE]


If Pinker has sponsorship issues, they most definately have it.
bjorn240 08-11-2006 12:27 PM

[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]If Pinker has sponsorship issues, they most definately have it.[/QUOTE]
For God's sake, don't piss off Ken. He doesn't need any more motivation.
KBlock 08-11-2006 03:41 PM

[QUOTE=bjorn240]For God's sake, don't piss off Ken. He doesn't need any more motivation.[/QUOTE]

Seeing you with a gold medal is motivation enough!

Can you wear it at the next race? That will help keep me even more motivated.

Our driving shoes already have 2 X Games medals and they aren't even for sale yet. Nice testing and deveopment, eh?


-KB
ricochet 08-11-2006 03:46 PM

Just uploaded: Both of McRae's passes, then the two runs composited and run in slow-mo:

[url]http://mag.subiesport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=48[/url]

Or, [url]http://www.subiesport.com[/url], click 'Video Features', select item.

Cheers,

Ryan Douthit, Publisher
Subiesport Magazine
[url]http://www.subiesport.com[/url]
WRXedUSA 08-11-2006 04:03 PM

[QUOTE=bjorn240]For God's sake, don't piss off Ken. He doesn't need any more motivation.[/QUOTE]


oops!
LastResort 08-11-2006 04:08 PM

ricochet, Thanks for that video. It was quite impressive to see the precision in which he runs that course. The two cars are almost indistinguishable before jump 1 and jump 2, and look like the even land in the same spot. I suppose the first jump may have made a bit of divot. What was the final time difference between those two pieces?
ricochet 08-11-2006 04:23 PM

[QUOTE=LastResort]ricochet, Thanks for that video. It was quite impressive to see the precision in which he runs that course. The two cars are almost indistinguishable before jump 1 and jump 2, and look like the even land in the same spot. I suppose the first jump may have made a bit of divot. What was the final time difference between those two pieces?[/QUOTE]

They're aligned with the moment Colin appeared at the top of the ramp. On the second pass he took that first ramp a little faster, flew just a hair higher/longer. He also swung wider prior to the jump (again, barely noticable, probably due to landing lower on the entrance ramp). The slow mo section is 60% regular speed. Someone want to grab a stop watch and figure out the difference between the two runs as he exits the screen?
LastResort 08-11-2006 04:57 PM

It's not that critical, I was just wondering. I tried to download it to count frames, but that didn't work. :furious: :lol:
psg 08-11-2006 05:30 PM

Any need for a World Rally-caliber Fluffer at the DC Gravel Lab? Dibs!

:lol:
AJS 08-11-2006 06:08 PM

[QUOTE=bjorn240]
If we get invited to the Gravel Lab, we'll definitely go. That place looks sweet! I live in constant low-level dread that Ken will just use it to get faster and faster, and deny us all access to the Bat Cave! You wouldn't do that to us, would you, Ken? Ken? Hello?

- Christian[/QUOTE]

Are there any pictures of the super secret Gravel Lab?

Andrew S.
bjorn240 08-11-2006 06:18 PM

Not just secret. Super secret. Like even more secret than regular secret. You know, secret enough for me, but pH balanced for Ken. Secret, in other words. Knock knock. Who's there? Secret. :)
psg 08-11-2006 06:25 PM

I think Christian's now on double-secret probation for even mentioning the possibility of a secret Gravel Lab that may or may not be located in an undisclosed region of the western United States. :lol:
KBlock 08-11-2006 06:43 PM

[QUOTE=AJS]Are there any pictures of the super secret Gravel Lab?

Andrew S.[/QUOTE]

Yes, there are photos...but, until it's complete, I don't want to let the proverbial "cat out of the bag". Sometime soon...

Christian's "secret" post had me laughing very hard. I think his "need to know" folder just got a little smaller.


-KB
Easy Rider 08-11-2006 06:48 PM

Ah Christian - you just got UN-invited to the Christmas party!

Ken - thanks for everything at the X Games - my kid is still "on a high"
STI_SLC 08-11-2006 07:39 PM

[QUOTE=psg]Any need for a World Rally-caliber Fluffer at the DC Gravel Lab? Dibs!

:lol:[/QUOTE]


sorry, this just sounds sketchy. :huh:

and sorry, maybe i should never have mentioned the lab..................
roadrashrallyracer 08-11-2006 08:19 PM

subaru sponsorship letter - truth?
hi all,
the x games were awesome. thanks for the torrent.

i've been reading the comments about how some teams were limited by budget way more than others at xgames. i'm not sure how sponsorship deals actually work, but here's one version. last year i wrote a letter to subaru complaining about the drop in sponsorship, compared to previous years, for some teams who were at mountain trials 2006, bc. At my peril, here is the reply. i'm a bit new to rally so i'm not sure if it's true, or propaganda...?

*****NB - in the letter i wrote i stated CLEARLY that one of the rally volunteers told me about the sponsorship history and that subaru was no longer interested, even though his reply it was Pat Richard. I just gave Richard's as an example of a team that deserves more support.

here's the email i got back:

Brian Hyland <bhyland Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 5:18 AM
To: Jennifer
Cc: Reid Thorburn <rthorburn

Jennifer,

Thank you very much for your letter dated December 2, 2005.

Subaru Canada, Inc. entered into Canadian rally in 1991 with Tom and Trish McGeer in a Legacy Turbo. We have had a team fielded in the sport from that time until the end of 2004.

In the late 1990�s when Michelin Tire dropped out as the sponsor of the Canadian Rally Championship ( CRC ), Subaru was asked by the Canadian Association of Rallysport ( C.A.R.S. ) to help out the sport by co-sponsoring it along with Yokohama Tire.

Subaru Canada, Inc. has either co-sponsored or was the Title sponsor or funded the CRC from that time until the end of 2004.

In 2001, Subaru Canada, Inc. increased it�s commitment to the sport by entering a 3 car team into the CRC. The reasons were to both promote our product but also to try to increase the level of spectators, organizers, competitors, sponsors and other vehicle manufacturers.

Spectators went up, the events got better, there were more competitors, Toyota and Suzuki fielded teams during this time but there were no more sponsors. In fact Yokohama dropped out and Subaru was left to sponsor the CRC by itself. Over the period 2001 � 2004, Subaru Canada, Inc. worked with C.A.R.S to try to find other sponsors to help defray some of our costs that resulted from both sponsoring the CRC and also fielding the Subaru Rally Team Canada. Unfortunately, no other sponsors were found.

It was a very difficult decision to withdraw our sponsorship of the CRC but also to disband the Subaru Rally Team Canada ( S.R.T.C ). We had been together for 4 years as a team but a lot of us had been together since 1991.

The comments that you are attributing to Patrick Richard that Subaru Canada, Inc.� had no more advertising advantage to gain from continuing to support the sport � are hard to believe. In the end there were many solid business reasons for our decision but we still did not walk away from the sport. We continue to fund a Contingency programme for the competitors, we supply parts and service support for the competitors on site and we continue to work in the background of the sport to help make it better.

Again, thank you for your letter and the passion that you have for the sport. I hope that you will continue to drive Subarus for many more years.



Yours truly,
Brian Hyland
Director
Vehicle Distribution and Sponsorships
905-568-4959 ext. 241




i'd be interested in hearing the other sides of this story.
cheers
jj
esteve 08-12-2006 12:17 PM

Here's my favorite pic that I took from the X-Games. It's now my desktop background. :D

[IMG]http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTI5MDA5OTZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg[/IMG]
KBlock 08-12-2006 01:11 PM

Nice shot.

Damn, that was really fun!


-KB
esteve 08-12-2006 03:07 PM

[QUOTE=KBlock]Nice shot.

Damn, that was really fun!


-KB[/QUOTE]

Thanks, awesome jump! You definitely got extra style points from the fans for the big air!
Easy Rider 08-12-2006 03:19 PM

Dude - I can see me and my son sitting in the stands!
Section all the way to the right - but on the left asile - about half way up second seat in - in red shirt with my son in a grey shirt and red hat beside me.
I have my arms up taking a movie with my camera!
Wheeeeee.
esteve 08-12-2006 03:40 PM

[QUOTE=Easy Rider]Dude - I can see me and my son sitting in the stands!
Section all the way to the right - but on the left asile - about half way up second seat in - in red shirt with my son in a grey shirt and red hat beside me.
I have my arms up taking a movie with my camera!
Wheeeeee.[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah, I can make you guys out. Cool, it's a small world!
Kostamojen 08-12-2006 06:40 PM

[QUOTE=KBlock]
Christian's "secret" post had me laughing very hard. I think his "need to know" folder just got a little smaller.

-KB[/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Rallyroo 08-12-2006 06:45 PM

Sorry for the delay, but the panoramas are here now.

From the SCIC [SoCal] caravan to the Home Depot Center.
[IMG]http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/6897/pano01tk6.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1288/pano02jx7.jpg[/IMG]
psg 08-12-2006 06:53 PM

If anyone's interested, there's a nice writeup in the Motorsports section of Autoweek (Aug 14, 2006; Pg 48, 50). Big picture of Travis launching over the stadium jump on the first page, mid-air shot of Ken on the second, and a couple shots of Colin's famous roll as well. Only two pages, but it's no more than they devote to NASCAR or F1. Article quotes Chris Stiepock, GM of ESPN Events, as saying that rally will "definitely" be back next year. Rally America wants a Winter event as well.

Thanks Rallyroo (right-click, save as). I can see myself!
TristanP 08-13-2006 12:14 AM

Love that first wide-angle pic. Nice work.
csimon 08-16-2006 10:45 AM

Travis in Chicago Aug 23
TP will be a Schaumburg Subaru in Schaumburg, IL on Aug 23 from 6-8P.

This was schedule before the X Games...good for us in the midwest.
WRXedUSA 08-16-2006 11:24 AM

[QUOTE=csimon]TP will be a Schaumburg Subaru in Schaumburg, IL on Aug 23 from 6-8P.

This was schedule before the X Games...good for us in the midwest.[/QUOTE]
Might want to post this in the MWSOC
greg donovan 08-16-2006 06:12 PM

[QUOTE=csimon]TP will be a Schaumburg Subaru in Schaumburg, IL on Aug 23 from 6-8P.

This was schedule before the X Games...good for us in the midwest.[/QUOTE]

must be a stopover on the way to OFPR.
psg 08-21-2006 09:48 PM

The latest Autoweek (Aug 21, 2006) has a Subaru ad in the motorsports section about rally at the X-Games. The header reads "Turning the X Games into the WRX Games. It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru." Under it is a picture of McRae, Pastrana, and Block showing off their medals. I'm in the background of that photo, white t-shirt and sunglasses to the left of McRae's head. I'll try to get a friend to scan it, for those that don't receive the magazine.

This is turning into "Where's Waldo?" for me. Do I get royalties? :lol:
KBlock 08-21-2006 11:33 PM

[QUOTE=psg]The latest Autoweek (Aug 21, 2006) has a Subaru ad in the motorsports section about rally at the X-Games. The header reads "Turning the X Games into the WRX Games. It's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru." Under it is a picture of McRae, Pastrana, and Block showing off their medals. I'm in the background of that photo, white t-shirt and sunglasses to the left of McRae's head. I'll try to get a friend to scan it, for those that don't receive the magazine.

This is turning into "Where's Waldo?" for me. Do I get royalties? :lol:[/QUOTE]


Never in my wildest dreams did I (or Travis) imagine being in a congrats ad with Colin McRae. Amazing.

Thanks to Subaru for making a great ad to celebrate that amazing event and podium finishes.


-KB
Rallyroo 08-22-2006 04:56 PM

[QUOTE=psg]I'm in the background of that photo, white t-shirt and sunglasses to the left of McRae's head. I'll try to get a friend to scan it, for those that don't receive the magazine.

This is turning into "Where's Waldo?" for me. Do I get royalties? :lol:[/QUOTE]

Well, let's see. Your photo is being used in an advertisement. Your photo is NOT being used for photojournalism purposes. So technically you would need to have signed a model release. etc etc mumble jumble.

Just be proud you got into a Subaru ad.
psg 08-22-2006 05:25 PM

[QUOTE=Rallyroo]Well, let's see. Your photo is being used in an advertisement. Your photo is NOT being used for photojournalism purposes. So technically you would need to have signed a model release. etc etc mumble jumble.

Just be proud you got into a Subaru ad.[/QUOTE]

You don't think I'm actually serious about receiving royalties, do you? Hence the laughing smiley.
Rallyroo 08-22-2006 05:58 PM

Of course I didn't think you were serious.

There are already enough sue happy people in America. Sure keeps the lawyers happy. Just recently a senior citizen tripped on the sidewalk at the city park. She sued and got $50,000 from the City of LA.

Oh no, what if I tripped from the little ant hill in the grass? Sheeeeesh. Or that little twig? Or I hurt myself from touching the roses? Anyways....... [/rant]
Mopho 08-22-2006 06:32 PM

[QUOTE=Rallyroo]Of course I didn't think you were serious.

There are already enough sue happy people in America. Sure keeps the lawyers happy. Just recently a senior citizen tripped on the sidewalk at the city park. She sued and got $50,000 from the City of LA.

Oh no, what if I tripped from the little ant hill in the grass? Sheeeeesh. Or that little twig? Or I hurt myself from touching the roses? Anyways....... [/rant][/QUOTE]

Completely different scenario, Subaru is taking advantage of psg without his permission. Subaru is making money off this ad.
This is not a situation where someone was an idiot and hurt themselves and tried to blame others.

Technically, if he is identifiable in the ad, they needed a model release from him. Sounds like pretty sloppy work by the ad agency.


Of course, I am not necessarily suggesting that you should go after Subaru for this...
Rallyroo 08-22-2006 06:35 PM

[QUOTE=Mopho]Technically, if he is identifiable in the ad, they needed a model release from him. Sounds like pretty sloppy work by the ad agency.

Of course, I am not necessarily suggesting that you should go after Subaru for this...[/QUOTE]

Refer to my post #350. I mentioned the model release already.
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=14983328&postcount=350[/url]

The ad agency should of blurred out the audience then.
jlawrx 08-22-2006 06:37 PM

Hey psg you get that scan yet? I wanna see if I made it in the ad too.
psg 08-22-2006 06:48 PM

Isn't there some sort of clause on the ticket that says you consent to being photographed, broadcasted, etc? My face is slightly blurred, but looks like it's more of an effect of the focal length of the lens. I couldn't care in the slightest--it's pretty awesome in my book.

[QUOTE=jlawrx]Hey psg you get that scan yet? I wanna see if I made it in the ad too.[/QUOTE]

No scan yet, but I don't think you or Twizhimself were in the ad. You guys were just left of frame against the wall, while I was to your left, standing on the bleachers.
Mopho 08-22-2006 11:40 PM

[QUOTE=psg]Isn't there some sort of clause on the ticket that says you consent to being photographed, broadcasted, etc? [/QUOTE]

If it was there, I believe it would only apply to ESPN/XGames to use the images, unless otherwise stated.

And I happen to have a ticket here and it basically says (you pretty much need a microscope to read it) you only gave permission for them to use your likeness for any live or recorded video display and or other TV transmission that is part of the event. ;)

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