| greg donovan | 08-06-2006 10:27 AM |
[QUOTE=Mopho]Why not, most of what is posted on Nasioc is garbage, so what difference does it make?
Keep it in your pants chief, I am just winding you guys up because it is late and I am exhausted from trying to fight my way past the Gestapo security, awful music and crowds for a week
Just have to laugh because myself and some others were joking about a conspiracy before the event even started, and this just was too much :lol:
And BTW, looking at the pictures I took, Colin probably came close to rolling it first time over the jump[/QUOTE]
i knew that is what you were doing. you even said that in your first post. i just enjoy playing along. just thought i would give you what you are looking for.
sadly there are people here who do think you are serious.
i wonder if they have time to include the X Games into Colin's new game Dirt. that game sounds like a blast.
Keep it in your pants chief, I am just winding you guys up because it is late and I am exhausted from trying to fight my way past the Gestapo security, awful music and crowds for a week
Just have to laugh because myself and some others were joking about a conspiracy before the event even started, and this just was too much :lol:
And BTW, looking at the pictures I took, Colin probably came close to rolling it first time over the jump[/QUOTE]
i knew that is what you were doing. you even said that in your first post. i just enjoy playing along. just thought i would give you what you are looking for.
sadly there are people here who do think you are serious.
i wonder if they have time to include the X Games into Colin's new game Dirt. that game sounds like a blast.
| DrBiggly | 08-06-2006 10:28 AM |
[QUOTE=greg donovan]you should see the injuries these kids are getting at the x games.
dave mirra has a serious laceration on his liver from his crash.[/QUOTE]
Ouch. Now that I can imagine, but honestly I didn't know the injury record was that high. I watched everything leading up to the rally section at 60X thanks to my DVR. I couldn't really tell much other than it wasn't a rally car. :( :)
-Biggly
dave mirra has a serious laceration on his liver from his crash.[/QUOTE]
Ouch. Now that I can imagine, but honestly I didn't know the injury record was that high. I watched everything leading up to the rally section at 60X thanks to my DVR. I couldn't really tell much other than it wasn't a rally car. :( :)
-Biggly
| davis10 | 08-06-2006 11:34 AM |
It was amazing how much smoother colin was on the pavement then everyone else. if he haddnt of rolled he would have had travis for sure.
| REDrum | 08-06-2006 12:20 PM |
[QUOTE=Mopho] It is totally conceivable that it was intentional.[/QUOTE]
It was intentional, Colin had time and was trying 'own' Travis by rolling twice and beating him at his own tricks. :devil:
Hey rolling only once and getting second in the games is pretty epic. Yesterdays super special was the most thrilling stage I'd ever seen. Travis and Christian won it fair and square, enough with the grassy knoll stuff. But, I wonder what Travis' testosterone levels were like....
Two years ago even a wild fantasy idea of rally being in the x-games would have been shot down, (well at least on SS); big up to RA for making it a reality in 2006 :banana:
It was intentional, Colin had time and was trying 'own' Travis by rolling twice and beating him at his own tricks. :devil:
Hey rolling only once and getting second in the games is pretty epic. Yesterdays super special was the most thrilling stage I'd ever seen. Travis and Christian won it fair and square, enough with the grassy knoll stuff. But, I wonder what Travis' testosterone levels were like....
Two years ago even a wild fantasy idea of rally being in the x-games would have been shot down, (well at least on SS); big up to RA for making it a reality in 2006 :banana:
| Mopho | 08-06-2006 12:55 PM |
[QUOTE=REDrum]I But, I wonder what Travis' testosterone levels were like....
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:lol:
[/QUOTE]
:lol:
| FaastLegacy | 08-06-2006 12:56 PM |
[QUOTE=Kitsune]Dude what? You just said X-Game is not the same as WRC, but that since it is Rally America, it is the same as WRC? And you are claiming to have followed rally since before I could buy a WRX...Uh, good for you you can afford an STi I guess?
Honestly, I read that as you saying the X-Games is the same as WRC, or, Rally America is the same as WRC? Make me understand what you mean here. :confused:
If you belive that X-games is the same as WRC, you are completely dillusional. If you think that Rally America is the same as WRC, then, maybe I could see why but would still disagree with that.
The talent pool of WRC is by far, by far larger then Rally America. Not there are not some amazing drivers here, but the lack of a coherent feeder system, exposure for feeder classes (like 2WD) means most people can not afford to rally enough to raise themselves to a level near WRC.
I totally admit, I am annoyed with the idea that it took such a spectacle at the X-Games to get people interested in rally as a sport and that people praise Pastrana constantly when there are tons of drivers out there that can and do run him down with less. Pastrana [I]is[/I] talented enough to rally and be competative. He also has a great ride and tons of sponsership cash, so he should be competative.
So good for him, he is a sly marketing man with some driving talent and lots of fans, but right now, he is a shark in a ever increasing shark pond, either you have to go big or not even bother showing up.
I'm pissed the sport is so disorganized, expensive and has been poorly managed. That it could not gain popularity just based on its merit as a sport. So, maybe Pastrana will help the [I]sport[/I] of rally grow, bring in sponsers so people won't have to shell out $1,000+ for a national event entry fee and can get exposure driving something other then an open class Subaru, then I'll get on his big brass nuts. :p
Side note Greg: I was'nt just refering to PWRC, though, I would imagine you are correct most people in that also pay their way and should correct myself. However, I do belive Subaru's talent pool is more focused on their FIA prospects not North America, as its historically been with other manufactures. Americans rarely get brought to Europe.
I will take my bitchyness elsewhere though. :P[/QUOTE]
I couldn't agree with you more. Not to take anything away from RA or its competitors, but you can't even begin to compare RA to the WRC, you might as well be comparing a puddle to an ocean.
I've been critical of Travis in the past, but I'll admit he's really talented. Unfortunately we've seen some really talented drivers in RA/the former SCCA, not make it to the WRC or make it and not make much of an impact. Travis does seem to have a lot of contacts, name recognition, and the finances to make a good run of it. Though those will only take you so far on the WRC level, especially when you're relatively unknown outside of the states. I wish the man good luck, his success is ultimately US rally's success, for better or worse.
People seem to be drawing references to US coverage of the WRC now because the X-games seem to have been rather successful. I don't think it's going to work. The X-games were built for TV and they're exciting. The WRC isn't, and most people wouldn't find it entertaining. Heck, sometimes I find it rather boring when Petter's out of it, Loeb's running away with it with a three minute lead and the best competition is for 6th place. Rallying just isn't a lazy man's sport. You really have to love it, to love it. I think the X-games skew things a bit, because that's the premise of the X-games, to be successful on the air. I just don't have the confidence that the WRC could be successful with a mainstream audience, if it wasn't successful with a targetted enthusiast audience.
Honestly, I read that as you saying the X-Games is the same as WRC, or, Rally America is the same as WRC? Make me understand what you mean here. :confused:
If you belive that X-games is the same as WRC, you are completely dillusional. If you think that Rally America is the same as WRC, then, maybe I could see why but would still disagree with that.
The talent pool of WRC is by far, by far larger then Rally America. Not there are not some amazing drivers here, but the lack of a coherent feeder system, exposure for feeder classes (like 2WD) means most people can not afford to rally enough to raise themselves to a level near WRC.
I totally admit, I am annoyed with the idea that it took such a spectacle at the X-Games to get people interested in rally as a sport and that people praise Pastrana constantly when there are tons of drivers out there that can and do run him down with less. Pastrana [I]is[/I] talented enough to rally and be competative. He also has a great ride and tons of sponsership cash, so he should be competative.
So good for him, he is a sly marketing man with some driving talent and lots of fans, but right now, he is a shark in a ever increasing shark pond, either you have to go big or not even bother showing up.
I'm pissed the sport is so disorganized, expensive and has been poorly managed. That it could not gain popularity just based on its merit as a sport. So, maybe Pastrana will help the [I]sport[/I] of rally grow, bring in sponsers so people won't have to shell out $1,000+ for a national event entry fee and can get exposure driving something other then an open class Subaru, then I'll get on his big brass nuts. :p
Side note Greg: I was'nt just refering to PWRC, though, I would imagine you are correct most people in that also pay their way and should correct myself. However, I do belive Subaru's talent pool is more focused on their FIA prospects not North America, as its historically been with other manufactures. Americans rarely get brought to Europe.
I will take my bitchyness elsewhere though. :P[/QUOTE]
I couldn't agree with you more. Not to take anything away from RA or its competitors, but you can't even begin to compare RA to the WRC, you might as well be comparing a puddle to an ocean.
I've been critical of Travis in the past, but I'll admit he's really talented. Unfortunately we've seen some really talented drivers in RA/the former SCCA, not make it to the WRC or make it and not make much of an impact. Travis does seem to have a lot of contacts, name recognition, and the finances to make a good run of it. Though those will only take you so far on the WRC level, especially when you're relatively unknown outside of the states. I wish the man good luck, his success is ultimately US rally's success, for better or worse.
People seem to be drawing references to US coverage of the WRC now because the X-games seem to have been rather successful. I don't think it's going to work. The X-games were built for TV and they're exciting. The WRC isn't, and most people wouldn't find it entertaining. Heck, sometimes I find it rather boring when Petter's out of it, Loeb's running away with it with a three minute lead and the best competition is for 6th place. Rallying just isn't a lazy man's sport. You really have to love it, to love it. I think the X-games skew things a bit, because that's the premise of the X-games, to be successful on the air. I just don't have the confidence that the WRC could be successful with a mainstream audience, if it wasn't successful with a targetted enthusiast audience.
| Mopho | 08-06-2006 01:12 PM |
The sand in the Vaseline is that there is no other rally programs on TV here in the US, so all these "new found rally fans" have no where to go to see it again. By the time another rally is on TV, all momentum from this will be lost :(
| DrBiggly | 08-06-2006 01:26 PM |
[QUOTE=Mopho]The sand in the Vaseline is that there is no other rally programs on TV here in the US, so all these "new found rally fans" have no where to go to see it again. By the time another rally is on TV, all momentum from this will be lost :([/QUOTE]
Sadly true. Unless ESPN starts hitting some RallyAmerica events and drops Pastrana's name all over them to keep the kids following him that follow the Moto X.
-Biggly
Sadly true. Unless ESPN starts hitting some RallyAmerica events and drops Pastrana's name all over them to keep the kids following him that follow the Moto X.
-Biggly
| FaastLegacy | 08-06-2006 01:37 PM |
[QUOTE=Mopho]The sand in the Vaseline is that there is no other rally programs on TV here in the US, so all these "new found rally fans" have no where to go to see it again. By the time another rally is on TV, all momentum from this will be lost :([/QUOTE]
What ever happened to the OLN coverage RA had last year?
What ever happened to the OLN coverage RA had last year?
| Mopho | 08-06-2006 01:41 PM |
[QUOTE=FaastLegacy]What ever happened to the OLN coverage RA had last year?[/QUOTE]
I believe OLN did not want to renew
I believe OLN did not want to renew
| STiMULi | 08-06-2006 02:02 PM |
[QUOTE=Mopho]I believe OLN did not want to renew[/QUOTE]
I'd bet they wish they would now. I hope ESPN picks it up. I have been begging DirecTV to carry Eurosport
I'd bet they wish they would now. I hope ESPN picks it up. I have been begging DirecTV to carry Eurosport
| Black-Falcon | 08-06-2006 04:09 PM |
It would be so neat if they piced up WRC again. It seemed like Rally was really well recieved.
| matt30 | 08-06-2006 04:59 PM |
What happend to the other x-games threads?
| Chromer | 08-06-2006 05:19 PM |
[QUOTE=matt30]What happend to the other x-games threads?[/QUOTE]
Consolidated. Thankfully.
Someone has put the X-Games rally coverage online. Torrent is here:
[url]http://isohunt.com/torrents.php?iht=-1&ihq=summer+games+rally+coverage[/url]
Caution for possible NWS advertisements. I have no idea, I blocked all their ads long ago.
Consolidated. Thankfully.
Someone has put the X-Games rally coverage online. Torrent is here:
[url]http://isohunt.com/torrents.php?iht=-1&ihq=summer+games+rally+coverage[/url]
Caution for possible NWS advertisements. I have no idea, I blocked all their ads long ago.
| XenoWolf | 08-06-2006 05:34 PM |
Is anyone watching FMX right now? Travis just tripped walking through the pits/stands and injured his knee... lol.
| calibre68 | 08-06-2006 06:40 PM |
Can someone host an animated gif for me and post it? I found some good pix off of a flickr member's gallery of Colin McRae's rollover and made an animated gif of it.
Thanks.
Thanks.
| freq | 08-06-2006 07:40 PM |
thanks for the torrent!
| Flaps | 08-06-2006 08:09 PM |
PLEASE seed the torrent after you're done! That looks like the torrent I created , so it would be great if we could get a whole bunch of people serving this up other than just myself. Hope everyone enjoys the footage! :banana:
| gpatmac | 08-06-2006 09:03 PM |
I have watched WRC a good bit but am considerably a n00b. However, I've always wondered why the Euro-style autox I've played in Rallisport hasn't caught on more. I know it's pretty popular at the grassroots level in Europe, but not in WRC or anywhere in the states that I know of. If I'm not mistaken, the video of Colin when he starts on tarmac and ends on dirt is what I'm talking about, although isn't the euro version with multiple cars on the track simultaneously?
I wish it would take seed more, especially here in the states.
I wish it would take seed more, especially here in the states.
| Kostamojen | 08-06-2006 11:19 PM |
ESPN has the video clips of the Block, Pastrana, and McRae runs on its espn.go website.
| Ice racer | 08-06-2006 11:20 PM |
[QUOTE=gpatmac] I've always wondered why the Euro-style autox I've played in Rallisport hasn't caught on more. I wish it would take seed more, especially here in the states.[/QUOTE] Me too!
There have been a few smaller grassroots Euro-Rallycross events over the years in the US. I am working on one right now in the eastern upstate NY area for this fall. It'll be a mix of tarmac and sandy sections. Too soon to spill the beans right now, [or hi-jack this thread].
Mike Kamm
[url=http://www.icerace.com][b]A.M.E.C.[/b][/url]
There have been a few smaller grassroots Euro-Rallycross events over the years in the US. I am working on one right now in the eastern upstate NY area for this fall. It'll be a mix of tarmac and sandy sections. Too soon to spill the beans right now, [or hi-jack this thread].
Mike Kamm
[url=http://www.icerace.com][b]A.M.E.C.[/b][/url]
| RA29 | 08-07-2006 05:38 AM |
Wow, McRae rocks!
His tarmac stage was awesome and if not for that crash, he wouldve won the rally race.
His tarmac stage was awesome and if not for that crash, he wouldve won the rally race.
| KnightWRX | 08-07-2006 11:26 AM |
In case someone needs a non-torrent'ed version of colins run....here it is....
[url="http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1063485"]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1063485[/url]
[url="http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1063485"]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1063485[/url]
| ctechnik | 08-07-2006 12:16 PM |
Here are some of my pics from the event. I took these on the tarmac section, cause my camera wouldn't be able to zoom enough inside the stadium. :P I need a DSLR! Gives a slightly different perspective though. Enjoy!
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames01.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames02.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames03.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames04.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames05.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames06.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames07.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames08.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames09.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames10.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames01.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames02.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames03.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames04.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames05.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames06.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames07.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames08.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames09.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames10.jpg[/IMG]
| ctechnik | 08-07-2006 12:16 PM |
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames11.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames12.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames13.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames14.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames15.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames16.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames17.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames18.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames12.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames13.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames14.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames15.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames16.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames17.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames18.jpg[/IMG]
| KC | 08-07-2006 12:31 PM |
Crash McRae's drive around that 180 tarmac turn was nothing more than spectacular. IMHO, that is where he made up most of the time against Pastrana (if one were doing split times for sections.)
This weekend, I'll take the video and analyze it to see if my thoughts on the splits between Crash and Pastrana and see if it's right. It's the slow stuff that's a killer on your final time, especially with a fast section following. Crash executed it perfectly. The sooner he was straight, the sooner he could get on it, and this pays off in spades at the end of the straight. :)
Compare these two pics and compare the angle of the cars in virtually the same spot. Colins not only slowing down a bit in his drift, but setting up to get on the power out of the turn faster for the straight that follows.
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames11.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames14.jpg[/IMG]
Now keep in mind, this isn't the fast way around a paved corner on anything better than rally/dirt tires as they just don't have the same traction.
--kC
This weekend, I'll take the video and analyze it to see if my thoughts on the splits between Crash and Pastrana and see if it's right. It's the slow stuff that's a killer on your final time, especially with a fast section following. Crash executed it perfectly. The sooner he was straight, the sooner he could get on it, and this pays off in spades at the end of the straight. :)
Compare these two pics and compare the angle of the cars in virtually the same spot. Colins not only slowing down a bit in his drift, but setting up to get on the power out of the turn faster for the straight that follows.
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames11.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://users.adelphia.net/~ctechnik/xgames14.jpg[/IMG]
Now keep in mind, this isn't the fast way around a paved corner on anything better than rally/dirt tires as they just don't have the same traction.
--kC
| PKer | 08-07-2006 12:45 PM |
[QUOTE=KC]Crash McRae's drive around that 180 tarmac turn was nothing more than spectacular. IMHO, that is where he made up most of the time against Pastrana (if one were doing split times for sections.)
--kC[/QUOTE]
I totally agree, when my wife and I (both autocrossers) were watching it we both said "wow" as he made that turn. It was incredible. In the entire paved section you could just see McRae make up time, he was slow in fast out and turned early.
--kC[/QUOTE]
I totally agree, when my wife and I (both autocrossers) were watching it we both said "wow" as he made that turn. It was incredible. In the entire paved section you could just see McRae make up time, he was slow in fast out and turned early.
| WRXedUSA | 08-07-2006 12:54 PM |
Anything is possible with gravel tires man!
| fastfreddy | 08-07-2006 01:27 PM |
I'd love if you were forced to use gravel tires for AutoX!
| KC | 08-07-2006 01:34 PM |
[QUOTE=fastfreddy]I'd love if you were forced to use gravel tires for AutoX![/QUOTE]
:lol:
You mean just me, or everyone? :lol:
:lol:
You mean just me, or everyone? :lol:
| greg donovan | 08-07-2006 01:34 PM |
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]Anything is possible with gravel tires man![/QUOTE]
i am glad that they were required to use rally tires. tarmac tires would have been faster but not nearly as fun to watch.
i am glad that they were required to use rally tires. tarmac tires would have been faster but not nearly as fun to watch.
| KC | 08-07-2006 01:37 PM |
[QUOTE=greg donovan]i am glad that they were required to use rally tires. tarmac tires would have been faster but not nearly as fun to watch.[/QUOTE]
Agreeeeeeed. I just love he howl they made... like protesting, i don't wanna but you're killing me howl on the smoothness of it. :lol:
Agreeeeeeed. I just love he howl they made... like protesting, i don't wanna but you're killing me howl on the smoothness of it. :lol:
| Easy Rider | 08-07-2006 01:55 PM |
[QUOTE=Mopho]Why? It was not a real rally, it was made for TV. It is totally conceivable that it was intentional.
A) How many times had he driven the course? He had that corner down pretty well
B) He was well ahead of Travis, he had to know by how much since they had Travis' time before they started the stage. There was no reason to push it over the jump
C) The X Games has become the Travis Pastrana show
D) Rolling out of contention while having a big lead like he did was a good way to let Travis win and still keep his reputation of being fast (and spectacular)
Not saying I necessarily believe it (we will likely never know will we?), but it [i]is[/i] a possibility[/QUOTE]
Ahhh Mopho son - you are wise beyond your years!
(line from drivers meeting on Sat. morning - "remember - this is a TV show , not a rally")
Watch the front angle video - Colin turns his wheels milli seconds before landing - - plus - to be able to roll and still keep the car running????
Or it might have been the remote control tire blow out swithc in Lance's pocket? :D
A) How many times had he driven the course? He had that corner down pretty well
B) He was well ahead of Travis, he had to know by how much since they had Travis' time before they started the stage. There was no reason to push it over the jump
C) The X Games has become the Travis Pastrana show
D) Rolling out of contention while having a big lead like he did was a good way to let Travis win and still keep his reputation of being fast (and spectacular)
Not saying I necessarily believe it (we will likely never know will we?), but it [i]is[/i] a possibility[/QUOTE]
Ahhh Mopho son - you are wise beyond your years!
(line from drivers meeting on Sat. morning - "remember - this is a TV show , not a rally")
Watch the front angle video - Colin turns his wheels milli seconds before landing - - plus - to be able to roll and still keep the car running????
Or it might have been the remote control tire blow out swithc in Lance's pocket? :D
| SlowboyCSE | 08-07-2006 03:03 PM |
[url]http://www.slowboyracing.com/Newsletterinfo/X-Games%20Rally/DSC00196.JPG[/url]
This is my favorite pic that mike took.
I'm guessing right about here is when he thought, Oh $&I+...
This is my favorite pic that mike took.
I'm guessing right about here is when he thought, Oh $&I+...
| WRXedUSA | 08-07-2006 03:09 PM |
[QUOTE=greg donovan]i am glad that they were required to use rally tires. tarmac tires would have been faster but not nearly as fun to watch.[/QUOTE]
Given how smooth Ken looked, I swore he was running a slick!
Given how smooth Ken looked, I swore he was running a slick!
| jacobsen1_ | 08-07-2006 03:41 PM |
[QUOTE=KC]Crash McRae's drive around that 180 tarmac turn was nothing more than spectacular. IMHO, that is where he made up most of the time against Pastrana (if one were doing split times for sections.)
This weekend, I'll take the video and analyze it to see if my thoughts on the splits between Crash and Pastrana and see if it's right. It's the slow stuff that's a killer on your final time, especially with a fast section following. Crash executed it perfectly. The sooner he was straight, the sooner he could get on it, and this pays off in spades at the end of the straight. :)
Compare these two pics and compare the angle of the cars in virtually the same spot. Colins not only slowing down a bit in his drift, but setting up to get on the power out of the turn faster for the straight that follows.
Now keep in mind, this isn't the fast way around a paved corner on anything better than rally/dirt tires as they just don't have the same traction.
--kC[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but what do you know old man!? :lol:
[color=#e3e3e3]
Lose the 70lbs and just think how fast you'll be able to go!!![/COLOR]
Great shots to be able to compare. The funny part for me watching McCrash is how slow he looks on the tarmac, being as smooth as he is... You know he's flying but it looks slower due to how friggin smooth he is... I also loved the fact they were on dirt tires while the motards are on complete slicks :lol: No one but us car nuts will realize that though. Now they'll be even more kid's doriftoriing their cars. :rolleyes:
This weekend, I'll take the video and analyze it to see if my thoughts on the splits between Crash and Pastrana and see if it's right. It's the slow stuff that's a killer on your final time, especially with a fast section following. Crash executed it perfectly. The sooner he was straight, the sooner he could get on it, and this pays off in spades at the end of the straight. :)
Compare these two pics and compare the angle of the cars in virtually the same spot. Colins not only slowing down a bit in his drift, but setting up to get on the power out of the turn faster for the straight that follows.
Now keep in mind, this isn't the fast way around a paved corner on anything better than rally/dirt tires as they just don't have the same traction.
--kC[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but what do you know old man!? :lol:
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Lose the 70lbs and just think how fast you'll be able to go!!![/COLOR]
Great shots to be able to compare. The funny part for me watching McCrash is how slow he looks on the tarmac, being as smooth as he is... You know he's flying but it looks slower due to how friggin smooth he is... I also loved the fact they were on dirt tires while the motards are on complete slicks :lol: No one but us car nuts will realize that though. Now they'll be even more kid's doriftoriing their cars. :rolleyes:
| Kosmic | 08-07-2006 03:54 PM |
[QUOTE=Chromer]Consolidated. Thankfully.
Someone has put the X-Games rally coverage online. Torrent is here:
[url]http://isohunt.com/torrents.php?iht=-1&ihq=summer+games+rally+coverage[/url]
Caution for possible NWS advertisements. I have no idea, I blocked all their ads long ago.[/QUOTE]
Very good quality torrent. Thank you.
I'm seeding at max upload. :D
Someone has put the X-Games rally coverage online. Torrent is here:
[url]http://isohunt.com/torrents.php?iht=-1&ihq=summer+games+rally+coverage[/url]
Caution for possible NWS advertisements. I have no idea, I blocked all their ads long ago.[/QUOTE]
Very good quality torrent. Thank you.
I'm seeding at max upload. :D
| RichardM | 08-07-2006 04:06 PM |
[QUOTE=Mopho]Dude, it happened right in front of me, it was a slow roll and the damage is just body panels. VT Car fixes damage like that in their sleep. And the only lives "risked" were the two camera men, who were well off to the side, out of the trajectory of the car and mostly blocked by the hill. For someone with a lot of experience (especially at crashing cars) it would be real easy to make the car go over like that
The only way we will know is if they release the in car video, if they swear out loud, then you know it was an accident
I bet Nicky had his arms crossed bracing for the roll before they even hit the jump! :devil:[/QUOTE]
There indeed were two drivers in the rally that are very experienced at making that type of roll as that is what they do for a living. And that would be Tanner Foust and Rhys Millen.
But then, they didn't roll. :)
The only way we will know is if they release the in car video, if they swear out loud, then you know it was an accident
I bet Nicky had his arms crossed bracing for the roll before they even hit the jump! :devil:[/QUOTE]
There indeed were two drivers in the rally that are very experienced at making that type of roll as that is what they do for a living. And that would be Tanner Foust and Rhys Millen.
But then, they didn't roll. :)
| WRXedUSA | 08-07-2006 04:07 PM |
[QUOTE=bjorn240]Good eye Chad. It is Toshi and Richard.[/QUOTE]
Aye [I]!!!![/I]
:)
Aye [I]!!!![/I]
:)
| clbd39 | 08-07-2006 05:13 PM |
Gah it took me a few tries to read all of this thread, i think i need to go have Lasik after reading this whole post! :p
BUT ANYWAYS... I think that the coverae was pretty awesome, especially for the first Rally in X-Games, yea i wish they would've shown more of the 8 stage part, but the x-games are about the crowd, remember that skydiving crap? from the 90's yea it's gone, and the rock climbing? gone...... but have the spacial stage with about half the race, ok maybe a third in front of the crowd, that was awesome and a great way to close the rally part of the X-Games, very awesome, i'm totally jealous of all of you that got to go too! i've been watching the x games since 96 and this is by far the coolest!
as for you who think this was rigged or McCrash rolled on purpose... ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!?!
Colin probably had an IDEA of what his time was but not so much as where he could say in his head "oh i think i'll make it just a little bit closer and roll my car" or where he could do something so travis COULD WIN, he tried his hardest and pushed as hard as he could and had an excellent race, and even better when the car just kept going, i cheered and laughed because it was amazing that he could pull that off....
also for this being "the travis show" well when a guy was wowing the crowd with his lazyboy, indian air, BACKFLIP, superbackflip, and loads of others, starting when he was 15 or 16, hell i remeber when he was at the x-games and was doing calculus in between runs when he was 16! lol, then flipping the bike into the san fran bay! he's been an amazing addition to the X-Games and continues to WOW the crowds, also not to mention that he was in 4 events, 2 of which he had already placed 1st in, that kinda makes it a quote un-quote travis show, i mean that's basically a quarter of the events that people actually watch!
he's 22, he can pretty much only get better, so i think he has an awesome chance/opportunity to become a very good rally racer!
cheers to colin though, he frickin tore the street section up! he was flying through the 8 stages, especially the later few and was just amazing! my friend and i were in awe at it (don't get oln, only gone to a few rally races and never actually seen him race on tv except for clips off the net)
i'm super pumped about this coverage and hope they start holding rally on ABC or whatnot, atleast start out on espn, if they put darts and dominoes on espn, why not rally?!
yay subaru! yay rally! yay x-games!
BUT ANYWAYS... I think that the coverae was pretty awesome, especially for the first Rally in X-Games, yea i wish they would've shown more of the 8 stage part, but the x-games are about the crowd, remember that skydiving crap? from the 90's yea it's gone, and the rock climbing? gone...... but have the spacial stage with about half the race, ok maybe a third in front of the crowd, that was awesome and a great way to close the rally part of the X-Games, very awesome, i'm totally jealous of all of you that got to go too! i've been watching the x games since 96 and this is by far the coolest!
as for you who think this was rigged or McCrash rolled on purpose... ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!?!
Colin probably had an IDEA of what his time was but not so much as where he could say in his head "oh i think i'll make it just a little bit closer and roll my car" or where he could do something so travis COULD WIN, he tried his hardest and pushed as hard as he could and had an excellent race, and even better when the car just kept going, i cheered and laughed because it was amazing that he could pull that off....
also for this being "the travis show" well when a guy was wowing the crowd with his lazyboy, indian air, BACKFLIP, superbackflip, and loads of others, starting when he was 15 or 16, hell i remeber when he was at the x-games and was doing calculus in between runs when he was 16! lol, then flipping the bike into the san fran bay! he's been an amazing addition to the X-Games and continues to WOW the crowds, also not to mention that he was in 4 events, 2 of which he had already placed 1st in, that kinda makes it a quote un-quote travis show, i mean that's basically a quarter of the events that people actually watch!
he's 22, he can pretty much only get better, so i think he has an awesome chance/opportunity to become a very good rally racer!
cheers to colin though, he frickin tore the street section up! he was flying through the 8 stages, especially the later few and was just amazing! my friend and i were in awe at it (don't get oln, only gone to a few rally races and never actually seen him race on tv except for clips off the net)
i'm super pumped about this coverage and hope they start holding rally on ABC or whatnot, atleast start out on espn, if they put darts and dominoes on espn, why not rally?!
yay subaru! yay rally! yay x-games!
| [email�protected] | 08-07-2006 05:16 PM |
Pat Richard/ Rocket Rally/ COBB Tuning
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| clbd39 | 08-07-2006 05:58 PM |
/\ /\ /\ i was wanting them to do well, a brother sister team, that's awesome! :)
| Easy Rider | 08-07-2006 06:05 PM |
Pat and Nat had a great time.
They had a couple of gremlins on Wed. which knocked them down a bit.
They were also up against some much newer and MUCH more expensive equipment.
I am just glad they were back at it - and can now work on finding some real $$ to fight the good fight!
They had a couple of gremlins on Wed. which knocked them down a bit.
They were also up against some much newer and MUCH more expensive equipment.
I am just glad they were back at it - and can now work on finding some real $$ to fight the good fight!
| WRXedUSA | 08-07-2006 06:08 PM |
[url]http://expn.go.com/expn/story?pageName=sx12rally[/url]
My god did they butcher "McCrae".
My god did they butcher "McCrae".
| Easy Rider | 08-07-2006 06:45 PM |
/\ /\ /\
You would think that someone would have caught that kind of a typo?
You would think that someone would have caught that kind of a typo?
| STiMULi | 08-07-2006 11:45 PM |
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA][url]http://expn.go.com/expn/story?pageName=sx12rally[/url]
My god did they butcher "McCrae".[/QUOTE]
Lets just add a few more C's in there
MccccccccRAE!
My god did they butcher "McCrae".[/QUOTE]
Lets just add a few more C's in there
MccccccccRAE!
| flyboymike | 08-07-2006 11:53 PM |
[QUOTE=clbd39]
cheers to colin though, he frickin tore the street section up![/QUOTE]
I would say Colin wasn't so much racing there as putting on a tarmac rally clinic. So smooth, so fast... if I had 1/4 of those skills, I bet I'd get FTD at my next autocross. :lol:
cheers to colin though, he frickin tore the street section up![/QUOTE]
I would say Colin wasn't so much racing there as putting on a tarmac rally clinic. So smooth, so fast... if I had 1/4 of those skills, I bet I'd get FTD at my next autocross. :lol:
| yuji | 08-08-2006 12:59 AM |
For all the photographers and friends I met, it was great meeting you!
Andrew, Mopho, Jeff, and lots of others!
The event was fantastic, but ESPN PR were not so media friendly! has no knowledge about rally and no info about anything what so ever!!! Let's hope next year will be better and I would like to see more stars and WRC cars too!
If anyone got great great shots of McRae's roll, please email me asap.
Thanks
Yuji
[url]www.yujirootsuki.com[/url]
Andrew, Mopho, Jeff, and lots of others!
The event was fantastic, but ESPN PR were not so media friendly! has no knowledge about rally and no info about anything what so ever!!! Let's hope next year will be better and I would like to see more stars and WRC cars too!
If anyone got great great shots of McRae's roll, please email me asap.
Thanks
Yuji
[url]www.yujirootsuki.com[/url]
| scoobyRx | 08-09-2006 07:27 PM |
my pics from X games that I got while also working 4 stages on Wed and all the super special runs. Also ended up working as a yellow flagger for SuperMoto. Had never seen that before, but it was pretty cool --esp. when they were jumping over my head.
[url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/rx555/Pro%20Rally/2006%20X-Games/2006XGames071.jpg[/url]
[url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/rx555/Pro%20Rally/2006%20X-Games/2006XGames071.jpg[/url]
| WRXedUSA | 08-09-2006 10:34 PM |
[url]http://www.subaru-msm.com/global/news/060809.html[/url]
On Subaru-Global now w/gallery
On Subaru-Global now w/gallery
| Sideshowbob | 08-09-2006 11:38 PM |
[url]http://www.dentsport.com/gallery/v/dsg/events/X+GAMES/[/url]
| Jtree | 08-09-2006 11:39 PM |
Travis on Leno soon (tonite) with a reporter ride along with Ken Block
| Sideshowbob | 08-09-2006 11:44 PM |
oh watching now
| scoobyRx | 08-10-2006 12:32 AM |
[QUOTE=Jtree]Travis on Leno soon (tonite) with a reporter ride along with Ken Block[/QUOTE]
the guy/s that rode with Ken got one heckuva ride as he was sideways around every turn and hit the barriers a couple times, I think too. He stayed on it for most of the cool down lap also :) Didn't get to see Tonite show, though.
the guy/s that rode with Ken got one heckuva ride as he was sideways around every turn and hit the barriers a couple times, I think too. He stayed on it for most of the cool down lap also :) Didn't get to see Tonite show, though.
| WRXedUSA | 08-10-2006 01:17 AM |
Damn! I missed it. Anyone tivo it?
| STiMULi | 08-10-2006 01:31 AM |
West Coast is just now airing...
| Kostamojen | 08-10-2006 03:30 AM |
[QUOTE=Jtree]Travis on Leno soon (tonite) with a reporter ride along with Ken Block[/QUOTE]
What a waste...
20 seconds of rally talk, and that was it, no pics or vids or anything.
What a waste...
20 seconds of rally talk, and that was it, no pics or vids or anything.
| XenoWolf | 08-10-2006 04:07 AM |
Everything from Saturday can be watched here:
[url]http://www.guba.com/watch/3000012896[/url]
[url]http://www.guba.com/watch/3000012896[/url]
| psg | 08-10-2006 04:16 AM |
I think they wanted a rip of Travis' appearance on the Tonight Show.
Good link though. You can get the X-Games Rally Preview/Rally America recap show off of that user's library in the in mp4 format.
[url]http://free.guba.com/download/mpeg4/1/2/3000013057/xgames_2006_rally_preview.mp4?ts=1155197537&uid=424128&bs=200&hash=cedd57ae75757cac705eab6f50239ef3ebf6deba[/url]
"Right-click, save as" and the link is good to go.
Good link though. You can get the X-Games Rally Preview/Rally America recap show off of that user's library in the in mp4 format.
[url]http://free.guba.com/download/mpeg4/1/2/3000013057/xgames_2006_rally_preview.mp4?ts=1155197537&uid=424128&bs=200&hash=cedd57ae75757cac705eab6f50239ef3ebf6deba[/url]
"Right-click, save as" and the link is good to go.
| jacobsen1_ | 08-10-2006 08:20 AM |
Well I went through TIVO to find the reruns of the Xgames. It's listed as playing tonight on (I think) ESPN2 in the wee hours of the morning and then again on normal ESPN over the weekend, again in the wee hours. I have my TIVO set to a season's pass to anything "Xgames" so I will be recording them all tonight. After I sift through it, I then have the ability to get them onto my PC (although they keep switching IP addresses which is a PITA) and then from there I can burn a DVD. If all goes well I'll be able to burn copies. I successfully did this for the limerock ALMS races and have that on DVD so this should work.
If it works, I'd be willing to send them to anyone who wants them for like $5 to cover my time, the disk, and the shipping.
I'll post tomorrow, or this weekend once I have time to see what it recorded and verify that I can get it onto my PC and then burned onto a DVD that will at least work on a PC if not a DVD player. I know this is all out online now too, so maybe no one will want the disk.
Ben
If it works, I'd be willing to send them to anyone who wants them for like $5 to cover my time, the disk, and the shipping.
I'll post tomorrow, or this weekend once I have time to see what it recorded and verify that I can get it onto my PC and then burned onto a DVD that will at least work on a PC if not a DVD player. I know this is all out online now too, so maybe no one will want the disk.
Ben
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