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You might want one of these (cordless impact) now that they're on sale. part 1

TyrannoSullyRex 11-01-2005 09:42 AM

You might want one of these (cordless impact) now that they're on sale.
I saw one (or two) of these in almost every grid position at nationals whether I was running or working (grid), and they are on sale now. Just a heads up, I've had one for a year, and my dad has had his for two and they work great.

[url]http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92798[/url]
Bishop 11-01-2005 09:49 AM

nice find! thanks!
aidrock 11-01-2005 09:59 AM

Not to be an idiot or anything, but how is this company for quality of product?
TyrannoSullyRex 11-01-2005 10:05 AM

[QUOTE=aidrock]Not to be an idiot or anything, but how is this company for quality of product?[/QUOTE]
Hit and miss, but I've using the hell outta mine for a year. Pulled out the rear end of an RX7 with it the other day.
Ryokosman 11-01-2005 10:51 AM

They do offer a kicka** warranty. And its cheap.
sleepy98 11-01-2005 11:03 AM

I agree....Hit and Miss. but, the prices are more than resonable:)

Mike
funsti 11-01-2005 11:07 AM

70 bucks for a cordless impact of those specs is an absolute steal. Probably would make more sense to buy one of those every year than one expensive one and have it break in 3 years.

-JWM
Jon Bogert 11-01-2005 11:13 AM

This wrench has been discussed in the past. Very reliable and good power. Only drawback is the archaic NiCd battery.

It's one of those HF items that makes Makita and DeWalt executives wake up screaming in the night. :D
funsti 11-01-2005 11:19 AM

Yea NiCd's are crap. Damn memory issues and stuff. I wonder if they offer upgrade battery packs that are NiMh or L-ion. But, bottom line is if it pulls my lugs off even with the battery well worn (and I bet it probably does since you all are using them for multiple years) then that's all that matters.

-JWM
ExitVisa 11-01-2005 12:06 PM

I'm going to snag one. By the way, the aluminum racing jacks are on sale too:

[url]http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Category.taf?CategoryID=710&pricetype=[/url]
funsti 11-01-2005 12:53 PM

I just ordered the impact; can't pass that up!

-JWM
bfarm 11-01-2005 12:58 PM

Do you guys use these impacts on Aluminum lugs with no problem? I ask because I have some on the way for my new wheels - don't wanna chew em up.

Thanks,
B
skunkfifty 11-01-2005 01:04 PM

FYI, that jack is not the rapid rise jack.
8Complex 11-01-2005 01:06 PM

Heh... $70 for the impact with a battery, $60 for just a battery. Might as well buy two just for the extra battery.

battery -- [url]http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=90167[/url]
WJM 11-01-2005 01:51 PM

snap......*gets out card to order*
dwx 11-01-2005 01:52 PM

Someone on our local autocross list mentioned that isn't the same one that most people have already. That one is still $150. The one for $70 has identical specs though, it just looks a little different...

I love my Milwaukee one but it was $300.
dowroa 11-01-2005 02:39 PM

[QUOTE=funsti]I just ordered the impact; can't pass that up!

-JWM[/QUOTE]
Ack.. damn it! I just bought this last week for 150.. oh well....

- dow
IBAUCLAPlaya 11-01-2005 03:23 PM

Just ordered mine :banana:
DougM 11-01-2005 03:45 PM

:banana: sooooooooo stoked! thanks for posting that. (that's more than half off, mmm daddy, got me one on the way).
SolbergWRCfan 11-01-2005 03:48 PM

[QUOTE=bfarm]Do you guys use these impacts on Aluminum lugs with no problem? I ask because I have some on the way for my new wheels - don't wanna chew em up.

Thanks,
B[/QUOTE]

Using an impact wrench on lugs other than to take them off is not the brightest idea. It is important for the life of your brakes and other various bits to make sure you torque the wheel lugs properly.

Jon

PS: If you get the polymer lined attachments they will not mar aluminum.
funsti 11-01-2005 03:55 PM

Just got off the phone with Harbor Freight. These things are backordered until the 14th (or was it 15th?) so it'll be a while before we get them. :(

I was calling to inquire about paying for expedited shipping because their website has no way of doing it. When I heard it was backordered I decided to just save my money because if I already have to wait a while I can just wait a while longer.

-JWM
Bishop 11-01-2005 04:01 PM

[QUOTE=SolbergWRCfan]Using an impact wrench on lugs other than to take them off is not the brightest idea. It is important for the life of your brakes and other various bits to make sure you torque the wheel lugs properly.

Jon

PS: If you get the polymer lined attachments they will not mar aluminum.[/QUOTE]

unless you have a set of these:

[url]http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=42478[/url]
akuhner 11-01-2005 04:36 PM

[QUOTE=SolbergWRCfan]Using an impact wrench on lugs other than to take them off is not the brightest idea. It is important for the life of your brakes and other various bits to make sure you torque the wheel lugs properly.[/QUOTE]
Huh? Yes, it's important that you torque your lugnuts with a torque wrench - it would suck for the wheel to fall off. How does it affect your brakes? And what's wrong with using a gun to put it on? As long as you get the nut threaded before you put the gun on it, use the star pattern, and you torque it, what's the harm? Everyone in rally does it, and we never have any problems.

I'd still wait for the snap-on version to be afforable... We have 3 of the 18v versions in the service truck and they keep on kicking through their second season of rough use.

Alex
psg 11-01-2005 06:55 PM

I was under the impression that cordless impact wrenches usually suck, but I guess you can't be too disappointed for $70. :lol:
Homemade WRX 11-01-2005 07:07 PM

wow, what a steal. for the price I had paid for my craftsman, I could have bought 3 of these and had some money left over...
trhoppe 11-01-2005 10:37 PM

a) This one by specs looks to be SUPERIOR to the $150 one. Check out line item 2. Variable Speed Trigger :banana:
b) I wonder if this one is of the same "quality" as the $150 one that we all have been using for the longest time. Its got better specs and its 1/2 the price.
c) If b) == true, the dowroa, return yours and buy this one, harbor freight will let you do that.

-Tom
D_Sagan 11-01-2005 11:11 PM

What about this one from the same company??

24V - I assume the downside is only 30 minutes of continuous run time?

[url]http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=92907[/url]

Anyone have experience with this model?

D_Sagan
trhoppe 11-01-2005 11:56 PM

Only 130ft lbs.

-Tom
Snakebot 11-02-2005 12:17 AM

I'm not trying to piss on anyone's parade but the last time someone used an cordless impact drill on my STi they managed to strip/cross thread 5 of the 20 lugs. I know it wasn't intentional, it just happened.

This was enough for me to NOT trust any type of impact drill. I'm sticking with a plan jane cordless drill and a torque wrench.
wrxsubaru 11-02-2005 12:42 AM

[QUOTE=Snakebot]I'm not trying to piss on anyone's parade but the last time someone used an cordless impact drill on my STi they managed to strip/cross thread 5 of the 20 lugs. I know it wasn't intentional, it just happened.

This was enough for me to NOT trust any type of impact drill. I'm sticking with a plan jane cordless drill and a torque wrench.[/QUOTE]

I dought it was the impact but the person that used it. They probley dident even thread the lugs on.

I hate habor freight, i go there to buy $10 in tools and leave with at least $100 every time.
trhoppe 11-02-2005 01:11 AM

[QUOTE=Snakebot]I'm not trying to piss on anyone's parade but the last time someone used an cordless impact drill on my STi they managed to strip/cross thread 5 of the 20 lugs. I know it wasn't intentional, it just happened.

This was enough for me to NOT trust any type of impact drill. I'm sticking with a plan jane cordless drill and a torque wrench.[/QUOTE] Just because you had an idiot work on your car, it doesn't mean that cordless impact wrenches suck. I have used a cordless impact wrench on my cars hundreds and hundreds of times w/o any problems, you just have to be smrt.

-Tom
pio!pio! 11-02-2005 01:18 AM

so if I buy this thing...how can I be sure that it won't overtorque my lug nuts?
it has like 200ftlbs of tq or something..

I can use these to take on and off my wheel hub nuts :)
closure 11-02-2005 06:10 AM

[QUOTE=pio!pio!]so if I buy this thing...how can I be sure that it won't overtorque my lug nuts?
it has like 200ftlbs of tq or something..

I can use these to take on and off my wheel hub nuts :)[/QUOTE]

Don't use them to tighten the lugs. Or if you do, do it at a very slow speed until it is just snug and then use a torque wrench to finish the job. Also, start threading the lug on first. Don't just stick it in the socket.


To give you an idea, a comparable Sears impact wrench is $329.99 and a Snap-On one is in the $400 range. Even if the quality sucks or it breaks, I'm willing to risk it at $70 Awesome find!
thrdeye 11-02-2005 09:33 AM

[QUOTE=J*Bishop]unless you have a set of these:

[url]http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=42478[/url][/QUOTE]


Yous guys musta missed this link.

The properties of the metal allow the extention to twist instead of applying torque to the nut - I think.
akuhner 11-02-2005 09:39 AM

You guys are being little girls about using impact guns on lugs. It's perfectly fine as long as you aren't an idiot about it. Snakebot's lugs got screwed up by the person, not by the gun... When we put the wheels on the rally car (keep in mind we take the tires off at least 6 to 8 times a rally) we use the Snap-on 18v gun, and we let it "bang" 2 or 3 times when it goes on. Then we put the Snap-on electronic torque wrench on it and it never reads above 100ftlbs. We even made it a rule with our mechanics that you must let it bang 2 or 3 times, because one guy was afraid of over-torquing and kept under tightening it.

psg - the snap-on ones are so good we don't even bother with the air impact guns when we are working in the shop. We keep the air on for other tools like the grinders, but we use the snap-on impacts for all the stuff on the car. Granted, this is a car that is fully torn down at least once a year, so nothing is corroded or rusted in place, but every bolt is torqued properly so you do need the gun.

Bottom line - electric impacts are just fine for putting lugs on if you are smart about it. As for this one, you get what you pay for...
cowapult 11-02-2005 10:09 AM

Ditto. I've tightened lugnuts using my cordless impact wrench hundreds of times. Even as a novice who had never used one of these tools before, there was not a single time that they were overtorqued. It is so easy to spin them down flush without putting hardly a foot pound of tension in them. Then you just follow up with a torque wrench. The only possible way that it can go wrong is if you deliberatedly machine gun those nuts for a few seconds after they have landed. Then again, you can also drive your car straight into a brick wall....

I might try those torque extensions that other guy posted. That would shave another few minutes off the setup and breakdown time.
hampster 11-02-2005 10:27 AM

That's a good find. I picked up that ones little brother a couple months ago for light duty jobs...it's on sale right now also:

[URL=http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=90798]87 ft-lb 18V cordless impact wrench[/URL]

This one's quite a bit smaller, but doesn't have the peak torque for difficult jobs.

Edit: Not a good deal now...sale's off.
JoshP 11-02-2005 10:34 AM

[QUOTE=funsti]I just ordered the impact; can't pass that up!

-JWM[/QUOTE]
me too
Bishop 11-02-2005 12:45 PM

ok so which is the better buy out of these two??

first one posted:
[url="http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92798"]http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ct...temnumber=92798[/url]

second posted:
[url="http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=92907"]http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ct...temnumber=92907[/url]
ExitVisa 11-02-2005 01:08 PM

first one posted: 220 ft/lbs of torque

second one: 135 ft/lbs

Unfortunately, they don't list the same parameters for both so I can't say if the first will run longer on a charge or if the second one has a better battery, etc.
leecea 11-02-2005 01:15 PM

This torque stick is cheaper than buying the entire set and is close to our lug nut specs... [url]http://www.torquestick.com/cart/customer/product.php?productid=31&cat=1&page=1[/url]
Bishop 11-02-2005 01:47 PM

thx for the info guys!!
Ruff 11-02-2005 02:04 PM

Anyone know how long these are on sale? And if these are the same prices as in store?
hampster 11-02-2005 03:05 PM

[QUOTE=leecea]This torque stick is cheaper than buying the entire set and is close to our lug nut specs... [url]http://www.torquestick.com/cart/customer/product.php?productid=31&cat=1&page=1[/url][/QUOTE]

With a spokesperson like [URL=http://www.torquestick.com/cart/images/header.gif]this[/URL] , they must be good. ;)

Oh, and from my experience, the prices are good in the store. The items might not be listed as on sale in the store, but they will honor internet prices. I believe their sales end on the weekends...but I'm not 100% on this one.
Warp3 11-02-2005 03:17 PM

I'm sticking by my recent (within the last month) purchase of the Milwaukee 18V one instead (with its two batteries and 5 year warranty, although priced at $300 (though, it was on sale for less when I bought it)). I had the 24V Chicago Electric (i.e. Harbor Freight) one previously, but it recently expired on me with a puff of smoke from the motor. (FWIW, it was one of the centrifugal style like the 12V cigarette lighter wrenches are, though, not steady impact like the 19.2V Chicago Electric or the 18V Milwaukee.)

One thing I found very interesting, is that the Milwaukee weighs about as much WITHOUT battery than the 24V Chicago Electric one weighs WITH the battery. The motor on this thing is freaking huge compared to the wussy little motor in the 24V Chicago Electric impact.

Shane
Imprezanator 11-02-2005 11:41 PM

Not having equal torque on each lugnut is the #1 cause of warped rotors, even if you go the star pattern route. Get the toerque stick or use a torque wrench!
Jon Bogert 11-03-2005 09:28 AM

[QUOTE]Not having equal torque on each lugnut is the #1 cause of warped rotors[/QUOTE]Any data to support this old wives tale?
thrdeye 11-03-2005 09:37 AM

[QUOTE=leecea]This torque stick is cheaper than buying the entire set and is close to our lug nut specs... [url]http://www.torquestick.com/cart/customer/product.php?productid=31&cat=1&page=1[/url][/QUOTE]

This is what it says about the TQ stick. If your impact doesn't make that much TQ, is the stick still accurate?

[COLOR=Red][I]Torque Stick is accurate to within +/- 4% when used with a 1/2" Drive Impact Gun that delivers a maximum torque of 375-400ft/lb [/I] [/COLOR]
8Complex 11-03-2005 10:36 AM

[QUOTE=Imprezanator]Not having equal torque on each lugnut is the #1 cause of warped rotors, even if you go the star pattern route. Get the toerque stick or use a torque wrench![/QUOTE]
Funny, I've driven with a lugnut missing on 2 wheels (1f/1r) for 10k without any issues... and I [b]don't[/b] drive easy.
fliz 11-03-2005 11:02 AM

[QUOTE=8Complex]Funny, I've driven with a lugnut missing on 2 wheels (1f/1r) for 10k without any issues... and I [b]don't[/b] drive easy.[/QUOTE]
That eases my mind about driving around this week w/ a lug nut missing.

I didn't thread the nut on far enough last weekend and it cross threaded when I hit it with the impact gun.

Luckily it was an air impact, so I turned the pressure up to 11 and spun it until it basically melted the wheelstud and came off.
IamRascal 11-03-2005 11:06 AM

on a 5 lug setup 3 lugs is sufficient for holding a wheel on. I personally like having 5 lugs for safe feeling reasons.

I purhased mine this morning :)
trhoppe 11-03-2005 11:32 AM

[QUOTE=Imprezanator]Not having equal torque on each lugnut is the #1 cause of warped rotors, even if you go the star pattern route. Get the toerque stick or use a torque wrench![/QUOTE]
There is no such thing as warped rotors.

-Tom
cowapult 11-03-2005 11:38 AM

[QUOTE=trhoppe]There is no such thing as warped rotors.

-Tom[/QUOTE]

Well... there is a real "disease" that happens to rotors... Are you just saying that technically it is not caused by the rotor being actually bent? You're pointing out that usually it is actually caused by a material problems due to pad deposits?
Imprezivblue 11-03-2005 11:41 AM

[QUOTE=Ruff]Anyone know how long these are on sale? And if these are the same prices as in store?[/QUOTE]

If you go to the store, bring a copy of the ad from the website and they will give it to you for the website price if the instore price is more. :)
IBAUCLAPlaya 11-03-2005 12:01 PM

What is the actual torque spec for the Subaru wheels? For autocross, I usually tighten the racing wheels and tires to about 85 ft/lb. Is that right?
akuhner 11-03-2005 12:14 PM

[QUOTE=IBAUCLAPlaya]What is the actual torque spec for the Subaru wheels? For autocross, I usually tighten the racing wheels and tires to about 85 ft/lb. Is that right?[/QUOTE]
That's what we do on the rally cars. I think it's a little higher than spec, but the driver had researched it and decided on 85.
trhoppe 11-03-2005 12:26 PM

[QUOTE=cowapult]Well... there is a real "disease" that happens to rotors... Are you just saying that technically it is not caused by the rotor being actually bent? You're pointing out that usually it is actually caused by a material problems due to pad deposits?[/QUOTE]
It has nothing to do with warping, bending etc etc. Its due to uneven pad deposits which has NOTHING to do with warping. Warping is a myth.

[url]http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_warped_brakedisk.shtml[/url]

Not that I'm condoning uneven torquing of lug bolts, as its a safety issue, but it has nothing to do with warping your rotors.

-Tom
trhoppe 11-03-2005 12:26 PM

As far as wheel torque, we have a 90ft lb torque stick that we use with the snap on cordless impact. Works like a charm.

-Tom
thrdeye 11-03-2005 12:30 PM

[QUOTE=trhoppe]As far as wheel torque, we have a 90ft lb torque stick that we use with the snap on cordless impact. Works like a charm.

-Tom[/QUOTE]


Tom, I posted a question other must have missed it.

Does your impact have to make a specified torque for the torque stick to work correctly? Or does it just need to make more torque that the stick is ratred?
IamRascal 11-03-2005 12:34 PM

Subarus spec if my memory serves me correctly is 80-85ft/lbs. Stick to 80 if you want to be safe.

On my sunfire it's 100 ft/lbs as are most GM's

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