| 2006STI | 10-04-2006 08:42 PM |
Defi oil temp question??
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does the Subaru oil plug gallery fit the Defi oil temp sensor? it only goes on about 1 turn when i tried to screw on the sensor with my hand. is it because of the pipe thread of the temp sensor? here is the plug that i ordered
[url]https://www.subarugenuineparts.com/product_info.php?products_id=961[/url]
[url]https://www.subarugenuineparts.com/product_info.php?products_id=961[/url]
| Rootus | 10-04-2006 09:47 PM |
No, it does not fit. One is 1/8 NPT, the other PT. IIRC.
| 2006STI | 10-04-2006 10:08 PM |
where can i get one that fits the oil drain gallery??
| bdi | 10-04-2006 10:55 PM |
Where are you putting this oil temp sensor at? If your putting it under the alternator then you dont need the adaptor. Mine went in the same adaptor plug that the stock dump light oil pressure sensor was in (its under the alternator).
P.s. I know this is confusing.
P.s. I know this is confusing.
| MO_MD | 10-04-2006 11:11 PM |
[QUOTE=bdi;15498858]Where are you putting this oil temp sensor at? If your putting it under the alternator then you dont need the adaptor. Mine went in the same adaptor plug that the stock dump light oil pressure sensor was in (its under the alternator).
P.s. I know this is confusing.[/QUOTE]
The idiot light goes on though, once you remove the stock sensor, right? Did you just clear the CEL? I am thinking about putting the pressure gauge in the oil galley plug under the intercooler and the temp in the one under the alternator.
P.s. I know this is confusing.[/QUOTE]
The idiot light goes on though, once you remove the stock sensor, right? Did you just clear the CEL? I am thinking about putting the pressure gauge in the oil galley plug under the intercooler and the temp in the one under the alternator.
| 2006STI | 10-05-2006 07:31 AM |
i'm putting mine under the intercooler so i have to buy a new plug. i thought the gallery plug that i bought from Subaru would fit. i heard that the plug under the alternator does not quit fit. you have to force the sensor in that plug. is this true? i just don't want to ruin the new temp sensor. i guess i will have to buy a new drain plug and tap my own threads. anybody know what size are the thread on the Defi oil temp sensor?
| Turn in Concepts | 10-05-2006 09:28 AM |
[QUOTE=MO_MD;15499015]The idiot light goes on though, once you remove the stock sensor, right? Did you just clear the CEL? I am thinking about putting the pressure gauge in the oil galley plug under the intercooler and the temp in the one under the alternator.[/QUOTE]
The idiot light does not come on.
The Defi oil temp and pressure sensors are the same thread pitch as the subaru galley plug adapters. They are 1/8 bspt and screw in just fine.
The idiot light does not come on.
The Defi oil temp and pressure sensors are the same thread pitch as the subaru galley plug adapters. They are 1/8 bspt and screw in just fine.
| Turn in Concepts | 10-05-2006 09:30 AM |
[QUOTE=2006STI;15501667]i'm putting mine under the intercooler so i have to buy a new plug. i thought the gallery plug that i bought from Subaru would fit. i heard that the plug under the alternator does not quit fit. you have to force the sensor in that plug. is this true? i just don't want to ruin the new temp sensor. i guess i will have to buy a new drain plug and tap my own threads. anybody know what size are the thread on the Defi oil temp sensor?[/QUOTE]
The plug under the alternator fits just fine. I have installed both Defi oil temp and pressure sensors there without issues.
The plug under the alternator fits just fine. I have installed both Defi oil temp and pressure sensors there without issues.
| 2006STI | 10-05-2006 10:45 AM |
i bought the defi imperial gauge and i think it came with the 1/8 npt sensor. i checked it with a tap and die set and the 1/8 npt die fits the sensor. check the gallery plug and the 1/8 npt tap did not fit. maybe the metric temp gauge comes with the bspt thread sensor and the imperial comes with the npt sensor. if someone with a metric temp sensor can check the thread to see what it came with. i order the one from WRXTRA.com with a 1/8 npt thread and i'll if it fits when it come in.
| InfamousDX | 10-05-2006 11:23 AM |
My Defi Metric oil pressure fits perfctly in the subaru oil galley... for the past 2 years. in fact i just reinstalled it in my new block.
| pioneer_sti | 10-05-2006 02:37 PM |
[QUOTE=2006STI;15503276]i bought the defi imperial gauge and i think it came with the 1/8 npt sensor. i checked it with a tap and die set and the 1/8 npt die fits the sensor. check the gallery plug and the 1/8 npt tap did not fit. maybe the metric temp gauge comes with the bspt thread sensor and the imperial comes with the npt sensor. if someone with a metric temp sensor can check the thread to see what it came with. i order the one from WRXTRA.com with a 1/8 npt thread and i'll if it fits when it come in.[/QUOTE]
I think your sensor is 1/8 NPT, but it should have come with a 1/8 PT adapter, [URL="http://www.defi-shop.com/product/bf/bf_manual.html"]http://www.defi-shop.com/product/bf/bf_manual.html[/URL]
I think your sensor is 1/8 NPT, but it should have come with a 1/8 PT adapter, [URL="http://www.defi-shop.com/product/bf/bf_manual.html"]http://www.defi-shop.com/product/bf/bf_manual.html[/URL]
| 2006STI | 10-05-2006 08:08 PM |
didn't see any adapter with the oil temp gauge. i taped the subaru plug and it work but don't feel too good about it using it. i'll just wait for the WRXTRA.com one to come and see how it fits.
| tekgnosis | 10-05-2006 08:38 PM |
ok...so for temp, the majority of people use the hole under the alternator?
| 2006STI | 10-05-2006 08:56 PM |
on my 06 STI, the plug under the alternator is used by the factory oil pressure light (idiot light). i used the plug under the intercooler for the Defi oil temp.
| tekgnosis | 10-05-2006 09:09 PM |
a ha, ok, cool. thanks!
| 2006STI | 10-11-2006 07:08 PM |
well got the WRXTRA.com plug in and the sensor fits but the plug does not fit into the block. i justed used the Subaru plug and tap it with a 1/8 npt tap and it didn't leak when installed. anyone have any idea whats the normal oil temp should be and how high the temp would it have to get before i should worry? it got to about 210-215 F when i did a full throttle pass and cooled down to 200-205 F when i came to a stop light
| BNut | 12-09-2006 12:23 PM |
I have a Defi Imperial Gauge Oil Temp and the Subaru oil galley plug. The Defi oil temp sensor does NOT fit the Subaru oil galley plug. I can turn the sensor about 1/4 turn and it stops. According to the booklet that comes with the guage, the sensor is a 1/8NPT. According to Defi's website the Metric gauges come with a 1/8PT thread pattern but the Imperial gauges come with a 1/8NPT thread pattern. Neither my Oil Temp or Water Temp came with a conversion adapter for 1/8NPT to 1/8PT.
Does wrxtra.com sell a conversion socket or galley plug that has the correct thread pattern? I emailed Gruppe-S (company I bought my gauges from) to see if they could help me with the Defi conversion socket.
UPDATE: I just checked WRXTRA.com and it looks like they sell a galley plug with the correct thread pattern for the 1/8NPT oil temp sensor but I'm confused why the one that 2006STI purchased did not fit his engine block. Did you attempt to install the WRXTRA.com galley plug at the rear of the block under the intercooler or near the front underneath the alternator?
Thanks,
Brian
Does wrxtra.com sell a conversion socket or galley plug that has the correct thread pattern? I emailed Gruppe-S (company I bought my gauges from) to see if they could help me with the Defi conversion socket.
UPDATE: I just checked WRXTRA.com and it looks like they sell a galley plug with the correct thread pattern for the 1/8NPT oil temp sensor but I'm confused why the one that 2006STI purchased did not fit his engine block. Did you attempt to install the WRXTRA.com galley plug at the rear of the block under the intercooler or near the front underneath the alternator?
Thanks,
Brian
| blue blurr | 12-09-2006 12:41 PM |
You could also try an oil filter plate, 60 bucks, no hassel.
| jbhebert | 12-09-2006 06:53 PM |
[QUOTE=BNut;16266312]
UPDATE: I just checked WRXTRA.com and it looks like they sell a galley plug with the correct thread pattern for the 1/8NPT oil temp sensor but I'm confused why the one that 2006STI purchased did not fit his engine block. Did you attempt to install the WRXTRA.com galley plug at the rear of the block under the intercooler or near the front underneath the alternator?
Thanks,
Brian[/QUOTE]
To clear up the confusion, the plug that 2006STI purchased was the Oil Temp Sender Plug (ACC-1001) that is designed to be installed in the oil pan, not the block. This is why it did not work. The correct part for the block is ACC-1011 (Block Adapter). I apologize if the website is misleading and will try to reword the description better.
Regards,
J.B. Hebert
[url]www.WRXtra.com[/url]
UPDATE: I just checked WRXTRA.com and it looks like they sell a galley plug with the correct thread pattern for the 1/8NPT oil temp sensor but I'm confused why the one that 2006STI purchased did not fit his engine block. Did you attempt to install the WRXTRA.com galley plug at the rear of the block under the intercooler or near the front underneath the alternator?
Thanks,
Brian[/QUOTE]
To clear up the confusion, the plug that 2006STI purchased was the Oil Temp Sender Plug (ACC-1001) that is designed to be installed in the oil pan, not the block. This is why it did not work. The correct part for the block is ACC-1011 (Block Adapter). I apologize if the website is misleading and will try to reword the description better.
Regards,
J.B. Hebert
[url]www.WRXtra.com[/url]
| BNut | 12-09-2006 11:50 PM |
[QUOTE=jbhebert;16268918]To clear up the confusion, the plug that 2006STI purchased was the Oil Temp Sender Plug (ACC-1001) that is designed to be installed in the oil pan, not the block. This is why it did not work. The correct part for the block is ACC-1011 (Block Adapter). I apologize if the website is misleading and will try to reword the description better.
Regards,
J.B. Hebert
[url]www.WRXtra.com[/url][/QUOTE]
J.B.,
Thanks for the quick reply!!! That is the answer I was looking for! :banana: I only dread having to pull the intercooler again to be able to get to the oil galley plug. (Plus some other hoses that are right over the plug) It takes about 5 minutes to remove the intercooler but about 30 minutes to get it back on. :lol:
Brian
Regards,
J.B. Hebert
[url]www.WRXtra.com[/url][/QUOTE]
J.B.,
Thanks for the quick reply!!! That is the answer I was looking for! :banana: I only dread having to pull the intercooler again to be able to get to the oil galley plug. (Plus some other hoses that are right over the plug) It takes about 5 minutes to remove the intercooler but about 30 minutes to get it back on. :lol:
Brian
| rkramer | 12-10-2006 12:02 PM |
[QUOTE=BNut;16271053]J.B.,
Thanks for the quick reply!!! That is the answer I was looking for! :banana: I only dread having to pull the intercooler again to be able to get to the oil galley plug. (Plus some other hoses that are right over the plug) It takes about 5 minutes to remove the intercooler but about 30 minutes to get it back on. :lol:
Brian[/QUOTE]
get silicon hoses!!! takes 5 minutes to take off, 5 minutes to put on.
with the wrxtra kit you CAN do it without removing the intercooler if you have some crows foot wrenches or in my case, an O2 wrench that fit the galley plug very snugly.
Thanks for the quick reply!!! That is the answer I was looking for! :banana: I only dread having to pull the intercooler again to be able to get to the oil galley plug. (Plus some other hoses that are right over the plug) It takes about 5 minutes to remove the intercooler but about 30 minutes to get it back on. :lol:
Brian[/QUOTE]
get silicon hoses!!! takes 5 minutes to take off, 5 minutes to put on.
with the wrxtra kit you CAN do it without removing the intercooler if you have some crows foot wrenches or in my case, an O2 wrench that fit the galley plug very snugly.
| oldmansan | 12-10-2006 12:20 PM |
I wouldn't use an oil plate adapter as the temps aren't as accurate at speed due to airflow. I have an oil pressure gauge (Apexi) with the probe under the intercooler, and an oil temp gauge (Defi) threaded under the alternator (dummy light location). As stated above, the dummy light won't come on when the mechanism is removed.
San
San
| BNut | 12-11-2006 06:49 PM |
[QUOTE=rkramer;16273514]get silicon hoses!!! takes 5 minutes to take off, 5 minutes to put on.
with the wrxtra kit you CAN do it without removing the intercooler if you have some crows foot wrenches or in my case, an O2 wrench that fit the galley plug very snugly.[/QUOTE]
Have you seen where the size difference b/w the STI and WRX intercoolers? I'm a pretty thin guy and even my hands couldn't fit to remove the oil galley plug with the intercooler in place. Heck even after I removed the intercooler the galley plug is still hiding behind some black hoses that are underneath the intercooler.
So the silicon hoses really make it that much easier to put the intercooler back on?
with the wrxtra kit you CAN do it without removing the intercooler if you have some crows foot wrenches or in my case, an O2 wrench that fit the galley plug very snugly.[/QUOTE]
Have you seen where the size difference b/w the STI and WRX intercoolers? I'm a pretty thin guy and even my hands couldn't fit to remove the oil galley plug with the intercooler in place. Heck even after I removed the intercooler the galley plug is still hiding behind some black hoses that are underneath the intercooler.
So the silicon hoses really make it that much easier to put the intercooler back on?
| Turn in Concepts | 12-12-2006 11:13 AM |
[QUOTE=BNut;16289189]Have you seen where the size difference b/w the STI and WRX intercoolers? I'm a pretty thin guy and even my hands couldn't fit to remove the oil galley plug with the intercooler in place. Heck even after I removed the intercooler the galley plug is still hiding behind some black hoses that are underneath the intercooler.
So the silicon hoses really make it that much easier to put the intercooler back on?[/QUOTE]
There is a difference in those hose between the 02 wrx and 04+. The 04+ hose routing makes it more difficult to get to that area. Since he has an 02 it is easier to get to for him.
Silicone hoses do make a difference. I have never had much luck with the STI hose even though it is silicone. It is a pain in the ass. My wrx plasitc hose was much easier.
So the silicon hoses really make it that much easier to put the intercooler back on?[/QUOTE]
There is a difference in those hose between the 02 wrx and 04+. The 04+ hose routing makes it more difficult to get to that area. Since he has an 02 it is easier to get to for him.
Silicone hoses do make a difference. I have never had much luck with the STI hose even though it is silicone. It is a pain in the ass. My wrx plasitc hose was much easier.
| benw | 12-12-2006 12:14 PM |
Brian, I had good luck spraying a bit of WD40 on the turbo compressor and sliding the intercooler over it. Also there should be a molded piece on the intercooler hose which can be used to pry against with a long screwdriver (or the lug wrench in your trunk toolkit works great). If you can lightly pry on it with some wd-40 as lube, it usually goes right on.
Silicone hoses make it a LOT easier for sure.
Silicone hoses make it a LOT easier for sure.
| mattyg | 02-25-2011 02:59 PM |
I just ordered a Defi Racer Temp gauge and I'm a little confused about how to mount the probe after reading through all the 1/8NPT vs. 1/8PT info. I think I need this: [url]http://www.wrxtra.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=38[/url]
but I'm not really clear where it goes. And is there a stock probe in that location currently? 2003 WRX
Thanks. . .
but I'm not really clear where it goes. And is there a stock probe in that location currently? 2003 WRX
Thanks. . .
| xluben | 02-25-2011 03:11 PM |
[quote=mattyg;33407945]I just ordered a Defi Racer Temp gauge and I'm a little confused about how to mount the probe after reading through all the 1/8NPT vs. 1/8PT info. I think I need this: [URL]http://www.wrxtra.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=38[/URL]
but I'm not really clear where it goes. And is there a stock probe in that location currently? 2003 WRX
Thanks. . .[/quote]
This thread is very old.
The OEM Subaru Galley Plug that you linked to, and the item that is referred to in the original post are the same thing. They have [B]1/8PT[/B] threads. Back when this thread was originally created the Defi gauges that were Imperial units (degrees F, PSI, etc) had senders with [B]1/8NPT[/B] threads. Back in those days you needed an adapter. Now all Defi senders have 1/8PT threads.
[B]The Defi sender will fit into the OEM Subaru Galley Plug without any other adapters.[/B]
I know this, because I went round and round trying to figure this out for myself a few weeks ago. I eventually figured it out, ordered the Defi gauge, and installed it without any issues at all. I got the pressure gauge, and the sender fits nicely under the alternator without any clearance issues.
If you wanted to use the galley plug under the TMIC, then you will have to buy the galley plug that you linked to. It will have the correct threads to mount the Defi sender.
but I'm not really clear where it goes. And is there a stock probe in that location currently? 2003 WRX
Thanks. . .[/quote]
This thread is very old.
The OEM Subaru Galley Plug that you linked to, and the item that is referred to in the original post are the same thing. They have [B]1/8PT[/B] threads. Back when this thread was originally created the Defi gauges that were Imperial units (degrees F, PSI, etc) had senders with [B]1/8NPT[/B] threads. Back in those days you needed an adapter. Now all Defi senders have 1/8PT threads.
[B]The Defi sender will fit into the OEM Subaru Galley Plug without any other adapters.[/B]
I know this, because I went round and round trying to figure this out for myself a few weeks ago. I eventually figured it out, ordered the Defi gauge, and installed it without any issues at all. I got the pressure gauge, and the sender fits nicely under the alternator without any clearance issues.
If you wanted to use the galley plug under the TMIC, then you will have to buy the galley plug that you linked to. It will have the correct threads to mount the Defi sender.
| mattyg | 02-25-2011 03:26 PM |
Are there pluses/minus to where you locate the probe? I'm interested in Oil Temp so I didn't want to use the drain pan bolt but other than that I'm not sure
| KillerBMotorsport | 02-25-2011 04:28 PM |
For temp, the drain pan bolt is prefered as it monitors the oil going into your motor. There are a few vendors who sell plus tapped for this, just like the OEM temp sensor.
| Sk8er | 02-27-2011 11:12 AM |
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Use the adapter and mount it into the galley port.
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Use the adapter and mount it into the galley port.
| Sk8er | 02-27-2011 11:13 AM |
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