| djcttb | 02-13-2006 05:21 PM |
hks kansai rear diffuser... worth the money?
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i know a lot of people will think its a waste regardless, but all the bs aside..
i hate the side profile of the wrx. the rear bumper, imo, doesnt flow with the sideskirts. it hangs signifiactly higher. looks even worse when u have a front lip.
im at a cross roads. ive been eyeing the hks kansai diffuser for sometime now. a friend of mine has an nsx with a cf rear diffuser and ive ALWAYS wanted one. when hks released theirs, i knew i was game. but im scared the diffuser will only change the rear profile of the car and not make so much of a side difference. i know when i had the 02-03 oem rear i LOVED the way it flowed with the side skirts.
basically i LOVE the look of the diffuser but dont know what it looks like with a side view (the best ive found is a 3/4 view)
is it worth the money for a small change?
or should i just invest in another oem rear? :rolleyes:
i hate the side profile of the wrx. the rear bumper, imo, doesnt flow with the sideskirts. it hangs signifiactly higher. looks even worse when u have a front lip.
im at a cross roads. ive been eyeing the hks kansai diffuser for sometime now. a friend of mine has an nsx with a cf rear diffuser and ive ALWAYS wanted one. when hks released theirs, i knew i was game. but im scared the diffuser will only change the rear profile of the car and not make so much of a side difference. i know when i had the 02-03 oem rear i LOVED the way it flowed with the side skirts.
basically i LOVE the look of the diffuser but dont know what it looks like with a side view (the best ive found is a 3/4 view)
is it worth the money for a small change?
or should i just invest in another oem rear? :rolleyes:
| Vostok 7 | 02-13-2006 05:25 PM |
You barely see anything from the side other than the fins sticking down but even that isn't much.
If you want something that will make a visual impact, look at the Varis rear diffuser.
Vostok 7
If you want something that will make a visual impact, look at the Varis rear diffuser.
Vostok 7
| wrxzboost | 02-13-2006 05:26 PM |
+1 for the varis rear diffuser
| IIdiceII | 02-13-2006 05:30 PM |
what about the new apr diffuser? id say just go with the oem rear lip
| Chp_Stix | 02-13-2006 05:35 PM |
Chargespeed 4th3win
| Lazaride | 02-13-2006 05:35 PM |
Here is the ING @ 892.00
[IMG]http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/images/ingswrxfullkit5LG.jpg[/IMG] and [IMG]http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/images/ingswrxfullkit2LG.jpg[/IMG]
And here is the Varis @ 1500.00
[IMG]http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/images/varisreardiffusercarbon.jpg[/IMG]
you must really not like the rear :lol:
[IMG]http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/images/ingswrxfullkit5LG.jpg[/IMG] and [IMG]http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/images/ingswrxfullkit2LG.jpg[/IMG]
And here is the Varis @ 1500.00
[IMG]http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/images/varisreardiffusercarbon.jpg[/IMG]
you must really not like the rear :lol:
| djcttb | 02-13-2006 05:38 PM |
[QUOTE=Lazaride]Here is the ING @ 892.00
[IMG]http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/images/ingswrxfullkit5LG.jpg[/IMG] and [IMG]http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/images/ingswrxfullkit2LG.jpg[/IMG]
And here is the Varis @ 1500.00
[IMG]http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/images/varisreardiffusercarbon.jpg[/IMG]
you must really not like the rear :lol:[/QUOTE]
the ing is a full bumper replacement, which is what im not looking for.
the varis needs a crazy kit, which i dont have and wont get.
i have an 03 so the apr wont fit.
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[IMG]http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/images/ingswrxfullkit5LG.jpg[/IMG] and [IMG]http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/images/ingswrxfullkit2LG.jpg[/IMG]
And here is the Varis @ 1500.00
[IMG]http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/images/varisreardiffusercarbon.jpg[/IMG]
you must really not like the rear :lol:[/QUOTE]
the ing is a full bumper replacement, which is what im not looking for.
the varis needs a crazy kit, which i dont have and wont get.
i have an 03 so the apr wont fit.
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| Vostok 7 | 02-13-2006 05:45 PM |
[QUOTE=djcttb]the ing is a full bumper replacement, which is what im not looking for.
the varis needs a crazy kit, which i dont have and wont get.
i have an 03 so the apr wont fit.
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Varis needs a crazy kit? It's no different than the H Kansai or APR units (which are nearly exactly the same) it just has those two vortex generators on the sides which you can actually see from the side view.
APR and H Kansai diffusers are real aero parts designed to create downforce on the rear. They are not for looks in any way shape or form and so they don't really show up.
Vostok 7
the varis needs a crazy kit, which i dont have and wont get.
i have an 03 so the apr wont fit.
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Varis needs a crazy kit? It's no different than the H Kansai or APR units (which are nearly exactly the same) it just has those two vortex generators on the sides which you can actually see from the side view.
APR and H Kansai diffusers are real aero parts designed to create downforce on the rear. They are not for looks in any way shape or form and so they don't really show up.
Vostok 7
| djcttb | 02-13-2006 05:58 PM |
[QUOTE=Vostok 7]Varis needs a crazy kit? It's no different than the H Kansai or APR units (which are nearly exactly the same) it just has those two vortex generators on the sides which you can actually see from the side view.
APR and H Kansai diffusers are real aero parts designed to create downforce on the rear. They are not for looks in any way shape or form and so they don't really show up.
Vostok 7[/QUOTE]
different strokes for diff folks i suppose.
ive seen the varies one in person and it was crazy. sure u can see it from a side profile but it was a bit "out there" than what im looking for. i didnt even like it that much, esp for $1500. itd look ok with maybe a v7 lip or something to that extent, but i think itd throw a subtle prodrive lip out of wack.
i havnt seen any apr or hks in person yet, which is why im asking if its worth the money. sure, its mainly for function but for the price im expecting it to look pretty good too.
APR and H Kansai diffusers are real aero parts designed to create downforce on the rear. They are not for looks in any way shape or form and so they don't really show up.
Vostok 7[/QUOTE]
different strokes for diff folks i suppose.
ive seen the varies one in person and it was crazy. sure u can see it from a side profile but it was a bit "out there" than what im looking for. i didnt even like it that much, esp for $1500. itd look ok with maybe a v7 lip or something to that extent, but i think itd throw a subtle prodrive lip out of wack.
i havnt seen any apr or hks in person yet, which is why im asking if its worth the money. sure, its mainly for function but for the price im expecting it to look pretty good too.
| Vostok 7 | 02-13-2006 06:03 PM |
[QUOTE=djcttb]different strokes for diff folks i suppose.
ive seen the varies one in person and it was crazy. sure u can see it from a side profile but it was a bit "out there" than what im looking for. i didnt even like it that much, esp for $1500. itd look ok with maybe a v7 lip or something to that extent, but i think itd throw a subtle prodrive lip out of wack.
i havnt seen any apr or hks in person yet, which is why im asking if its worth the money. sure, its mainly for function but for the price im expecting it to look pretty good too.[/QUOTE]
It looks good, yeah, but not for what you are looking to do.
You'd be better off with the OEM rear kit. Particularly since I'm not 100% sure the H Kansai Service diffuser would fit the bugeye (much like the APR piece).
Vostok 7
ive seen the varies one in person and it was crazy. sure u can see it from a side profile but it was a bit "out there" than what im looking for. i didnt even like it that much, esp for $1500. itd look ok with maybe a v7 lip or something to that extent, but i think itd throw a subtle prodrive lip out of wack.
i havnt seen any apr or hks in person yet, which is why im asking if its worth the money. sure, its mainly for function but for the price im expecting it to look pretty good too.[/QUOTE]
It looks good, yeah, but not for what you are looking to do.
You'd be better off with the OEM rear kit. Particularly since I'm not 100% sure the H Kansai Service diffuser would fit the bugeye (much like the APR piece).
Vostok 7
| djcttb | 02-13-2006 06:19 PM |
[QUOTE=Vostok 7]It looks good, yeah, but not for what you are looking to do.
You'd be better off with the OEM rear kit. Particularly since I'm not 100% sure the H Kansai Service diffuser would fit the bugeye (much like the APR piece).
Vostok 7[/QUOTE]
ya i really wanted to stay away from the oem rear lip bc thats what a lot of people have. i wanted something a little different. i may just buck up and get the hks and figure out something else on making the rear a bit different.
You'd be better off with the OEM rear kit. Particularly since I'm not 100% sure the H Kansai Service diffuser would fit the bugeye (much like the APR piece).
Vostok 7[/QUOTE]
ya i really wanted to stay away from the oem rear lip bc thats what a lot of people have. i wanted something a little different. i may just buck up and get the hks and figure out something else on making the rear a bit different.
| Vostok 7 | 02-13-2006 06:34 PM |
[QUOTE=djcttb]ya i really wanted to stay away from the oem rear lip bc thats what a lot of people have. i wanted something a little different. i may just buck up and get the hks and figure out something else on making the rear a bit different.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I've been wanting the H Kansai Service one since it came out.
I got the Cusco set which is a '06 STi diffuser with custom brackets to install it on any Subaru. I'm planning on building custom extensions to it to make it similar to the APR and HKS pieces for alot less money and out of aluminum for durability so we'll see what happens.
Vostok 7
Yeah, I've been wanting the H Kansai Service one since it came out.
I got the Cusco set which is a '06 STi diffuser with custom brackets to install it on any Subaru. I'm planning on building custom extensions to it to make it similar to the APR and HKS pieces for alot less money and out of aluminum for durability so we'll see what happens.
Vostok 7
| djcttb | 02-13-2006 06:37 PM |
[QUOTE=Vostok 7]Yeah, I've been wanting the H Kansai Service one since it came out.
I got the Cusco set which is a '06 STi diffuser with custom brackets to install it on any Subaru. I'm planning on building custom extensions to it to make it similar to the APR and HKS pieces for alot less money and out of aluminum for durability so we'll see what happens.
Vostok 7[/QUOTE]
damn id like to see that. im crazy about diffusers. like i said, my friend has one on his nsx and it totally changed the look of his car.
cant wait to see yours.
I got the Cusco set which is a '06 STi diffuser with custom brackets to install it on any Subaru. I'm planning on building custom extensions to it to make it similar to the APR and HKS pieces for alot less money and out of aluminum for durability so we'll see what happens.
Vostok 7[/QUOTE]
damn id like to see that. im crazy about diffusers. like i said, my friend has one on his nsx and it totally changed the look of his car.
cant wait to see yours.
| djcttb | 02-14-2006 12:09 PM |
bump for more opinions
| srascal36 | 02-14-2006 01:58 PM |
I say if you want to be original, get the hks, then try and custom fit a set of 04 or 05 rear spats. Lotta work and even more money, but i think that would look amazing...
| OneArmedScissor | 02-14-2006 03:19 PM |
i always wondered if the APR could be made to fit :o
get a wing :) that's what im considering.
WRC wing.
get a wing :) that's what im considering.
WRC wing.
| glilly | 02-14-2006 03:19 PM |
Ryan, swap an 04/05 bumper on your car, then go APR.
Greg ;)
Greg ;)
| GottaREX | 02-14-2006 03:57 PM |
VARIS is a crazy rear diffuser. Super functional as well. Here's a pic on one of my friend's car and it's also a trach whore. He says that it definitely added some downforce at high speeds.
[IMG]http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2018/img07054bd.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2018/img07054bd.jpg[/IMG]
| OneArmedScissor | 02-14-2006 04:08 PM |
yikes that looks pretty insane.
| srascal36 | 02-14-2006 04:11 PM |
LOLL. Judging by the way that guy drove at Pocono this summer, he wouldnt be going fast enough to tell if it was creating downforce or not :lol:
He must have been feeling the car out or something, because he wasnt pushing at ALL. Car did look amazing but idk what the hell he was doing...
I dont think that would flow with djcttb's car though unless he made some drastic changes, too busy..
He must have been feeling the car out or something, because he wasnt pushing at ALL. Car did look amazing but idk what the hell he was doing...
I dont think that would flow with djcttb's car though unless he made some drastic changes, too busy..
| Damon | 02-14-2006 04:19 PM |
that thing is ugly as sin, but yeah... i bet it actually really works.
| djcttb | 02-14-2006 05:04 PM |
[QUOTE=srascal36]LOLL. Judging by the way that guy drove at Pocono this summer, he wouldnt be going fast enough to tell if it was creating downforce or not :lol:
He must have been feeling the car out or something, because he wasnt pushing at ALL. Car did look amazing but idk what the hell he was doing...
[B]I dont think that would flow with djcttb's car though unless he made some drastic changes, too busy..[/B][/QUOTE]
ya thats what ive been saying. it looks too busy for the car. ive seen it in person. greg, i really dont wanna modify a 04-05 bumper. after the cost of all that + the apr diffuser i could just get the hks one and modify it for my bumper. and save on paint and labor, etc.
ive got something in mind but ill see how it goes.
but i still wanna see some kansais
He must have been feeling the car out or something, because he wasnt pushing at ALL. Car did look amazing but idk what the hell he was doing...
[B]I dont think that would flow with djcttb's car though unless he made some drastic changes, too busy..[/B][/QUOTE]
ya thats what ive been saying. it looks too busy for the car. ive seen it in person. greg, i really dont wanna modify a 04-05 bumper. after the cost of all that + the apr diffuser i could just get the hks one and modify it for my bumper. and save on paint and labor, etc.
ive got something in mind but ill see how it goes.
but i still wanna see some kansais
| djcttb | 02-14-2006 05:06 PM |
[QUOTE=Milin]i always wondered if the APR could be made to fit :o
get a wing :) that's what im considering.
WRC wing.[/QUOTE]
im sure it could... prob just enough modification as the hks.
im looking into buying an sti trunk/wing just to have laying around and to put on when i get bored.lol
get a wing :) that's what im considering.
WRC wing.[/QUOTE]
im sure it could... prob just enough modification as the hks.
im looking into buying an sti trunk/wing just to have laying around and to put on when i get bored.lol
| BlackSnake | 02-14-2006 05:11 PM |
ooo I like the rear Mounted cooler... mmmmmm tasty
| Patman015 | 02-14-2006 05:41 PM |
what diffuser is avaiable for a BUGEYE?? All those pix posted are 04+ model years
ALSO, the APR diffuser is only for wide body???
ALSO, the APR diffuser is only for wide body???
| djcttb | 02-14-2006 06:00 PM |
kansai fits 02-05
apr fits 04-05. not just the widebody.
apr fits 04-05. not just the widebody.
| Vostok 7 | 02-14-2006 06:04 PM |
[QUOTE=Patman015]what diffuser is avaiable for a BUGEYE?? All those pix posted are 04+ model years
ALSO, the APR diffuser is only for wide body???[/QUOTE]
I talked to the APR guys at SEMA. So far the diffuser is only available as part of the widebody kit but it will definitely fit the stock bumper and they were going to have it available separate soon.
Oddly enough, my car was within a few days of being the APR Widebody car.
Vostok 7
ALSO, the APR diffuser is only for wide body???[/QUOTE]
I talked to the APR guys at SEMA. So far the diffuser is only available as part of the widebody kit but it will definitely fit the stock bumper and they were going to have it available separate soon.
Oddly enough, my car was within a few days of being the APR Widebody car.
Vostok 7
| Patman015 | 02-14-2006 06:04 PM |
[QUOTE=Lazaride] [IMG]http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/images/ingswrxfullkit2LG.jpg[/IMG]
[/QUOTE]
What wheels are those?
[/QUOTE]
What wheels are those?
| Dforce | 02-14-2006 06:43 PM |
[QUOTE=Patman015]What wheels are those?[/QUOTE]
Volk GT-FORCE
Volk GT-FORCE
| jigga | 02-17-2006 06:29 PM |
[QUOTE=BlackSnake]ooo I like the rear Mounted cooler... mmmmmm tasty[/QUOTE]
hmm yes... I'd like some more info on it myself...
hmm yes... I'd like some more info on it myself...
| DECALFX | 02-18-2006 12:34 AM |
[QUOTE=GottaREX]
[IMG]http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2018/img07054bd.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
OMG *** :huh:
[IMG]http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2018/img07054bd.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
OMG *** :huh:
| jsmonet | 02-18-2006 11:56 AM |
nice diff cooler, heh
| innova | 02-18-2006 12:03 PM |
[QUOTE=GottaREX]VARIS is a crazy rear diffuser. Super functional as well. Here's a pic on one of my friend's car and it's also a trach whore. He says that it definitely added some downforce at high speeds.
[IMG]http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2018/img07054bd.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Haha... what is that little intercooler looking thing on it's arse?
/n00b
[IMG]http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2018/img07054bd.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Haha... what is that little intercooler looking thing on it's arse?
/n00b
| djcttb | 02-18-2006 01:08 PM |
oil cooler
| jsmonet | 02-18-2006 01:42 PM |
[QUOTE=innova]Haha... what is that little intercooler looking thing on it's arse?
/n00b[/QUOTE]
[quote]nice diff cooler, heh[/quote]
*cough cough*
it cools your differential lubricant of choice. sti's also have a diff temp sensor to let you know you've been sliding way too much and it's time to stop it :)
/n00b[/QUOTE]
[quote]nice diff cooler, heh[/quote]
*cough cough*
it cools your differential lubricant of choice. sti's also have a diff temp sensor to let you know you've been sliding way too much and it's time to stop it :)
| silverF4turbo | 02-18-2006 02:33 PM |
Does HKS Kansai diffuser fit with the 02-03 rear... I've only seen it on 04-05 model
Rear aero-mudguards i find helps the rear to sync up with the sideskirts... like on MattJK's former wrx
[QUOTE=Dforce]Volk GT-FORCE[/QUOTE]
They're Volk GT-V fwiw... Volk GT-force is like the same rim really but with covered lugs.
Rear aero-mudguards i find helps the rear to sync up with the sideskirts... like on MattJK's former wrx
[QUOTE=Dforce]Volk GT-FORCE[/QUOTE]
They're Volk GT-V fwiw... Volk GT-force is like the same rim really but with covered lugs.
| ljaviation | 02-18-2006 04:38 PM |
This is off my '03, but I upgraded to the '05 STI rear bumper cover. I do not believe it will fit the '03 cover because of the shape. Side view appearance is barely noticable. Also, they don't come precut..at least mine didn't, because of the different shapes of mufflers out there, so be prepared to cut to fit.
L J
[IMG]http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6df29b3127cce962dc6b8b00900000016108AbN2rhs5atc[/IMG]
L J
[IMG]http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6df29b3127cce962dc6b8b00900000016108AbN2rhs5atc[/IMG]
| wrxtreme2 | 02-18-2006 05:42 PM |
ljaviation, did u have to cut the lower part of the bumper to fit the hks ?
| ljaviation | 02-19-2006 06:55 PM |
Yes, and considering the directions are written in a language I can't read, I only had the enclosed pictures to go by.
It's pretty straight foward though.
I think the JDM cars don't have the same rear bumper frame, at least that's the way it looked in the pictures. I opted only to trim mine (the frame) instead of removing it.
A little FYI.
L J
It's pretty straight foward though.
I think the JDM cars don't have the same rear bumper frame, at least that's the way it looked in the pictures. I opted only to trim mine (the frame) instead of removing it.
A little FYI.
L J
| Handsdown | 02-19-2006 07:53 PM |
i'd rather have JUN make a replica of their superlemon GD rear diffuser than sport either the HKS or the INGS
| turbosporttsi | 02-21-2006 03:48 PM |
why dont you get the 'aero' side strakes? they match the lines of the side skirts very well, and they dont cost anywhere near as much as an over-hyped diffuser.
they dont create downforce...all they do is decrease lift/turbulence. the stock rear bumper is high like that for a reason. leave the middle alone......look at the evos....their rear bumpers are like parachutes, so a diffuser will help them b/c it will keep the rear bumper from trapping air...... the wrx, however, doesnt have that problem because of the bumper design.
if all you are looking to do is make the rear bumper and side skirts flow, get the strakes. i have them, but they are behind the wheels, as opposed to how some people mount them.......one set in front of the rear wheels/one set behind the rears... i think that looks funny IMHO.
they dont create downforce...all they do is decrease lift/turbulence. the stock rear bumper is high like that for a reason. leave the middle alone......look at the evos....their rear bumpers are like parachutes, so a diffuser will help them b/c it will keep the rear bumper from trapping air...... the wrx, however, doesnt have that problem because of the bumper design.
if all you are looking to do is make the rear bumper and side skirts flow, get the strakes. i have them, but they are behind the wheels, as opposed to how some people mount them.......one set in front of the rear wheels/one set behind the rears... i think that looks funny IMHO.
| pannan | 02-23-2006 05:42 PM |
Do You have any website where the HKS Kansai diffuser can be bought?
| EricK | 02-23-2006 07:55 PM |
[QUOTE=pannan]Do You have any website where the HKS Kansai diffuser can be bought?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?model=wrx&cat=exterior&prodid=1531[/url]
Would love 2 own it but thats a lot of money.
[url]http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?model=wrx&cat=exterior&prodid=1531[/url]
Would love 2 own it but thats a lot of money.
| STix66 | 02-24-2006 09:59 AM |
Love the Volks against the Blue.
The diffuser on the Black Rex above is simply too much IMO.
The diffuser on the Black Rex above is simply too much IMO.
| theicewall | 02-24-2006 10:15 AM |
Varis is ugly as hell, the HKS is gorgeous, but with the INGS can you by the diffuser without the bumper or is it one piece? Seconly, if it is one piece can you get the bumper and diffuser without those stupid vents on the side or do those come already drilled and mounted to the bumper? I've only seen that one picture series of the car so IDK if its only that particular vehicle that has those or all of them.
| palmerx141 | 07-13-2006 12:45 AM |
[QUOTE=jsmonet]nice [COLOR=PaleGreen]ARC[/COLOR] diff cooler, heh[/QUOTE]
teh fixored :D
teh fixored :D
| veightkiller | 07-13-2006 01:14 AM |
if you have lots of this $$$ it worthy.
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