| nos | 12-22-2004 12:46 PM |
How has the STI wing or any big wing been for you guys?
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How has it been for attention from people in riced out civics etc. as well as cops? I have seen a few people looking to trade their STI wing/trunks for non-winged trunks. I was wondering about this, since I am planning on getting the wrc wing.
| BakedCookies | 12-22-2004 12:49 PM |
mines not going anywhere, attention or not. Im 30 years old, and love Subaru and its rally heritage.
| Subie Gal | 12-22-2004 01:35 PM |
As the 'wing' comes on some of these cars standard....
dont see how it's an issue.... leave ya car alone...
Personally
I added the version V Sti wing to my GC years ago.
I love it.. no regrets...
side effect???
the poser-wannabe-punk-civic-ricer-type-crowd has always tried to get me to race
wing or not... it's made little difference
what makes the difference is how you REACT to the taunting :)
Jamie
dont see how it's an issue.... leave ya car alone...
Personally
I added the version V Sti wing to my GC years ago.
I love it.. no regrets...
side effect???
the poser-wannabe-punk-civic-ricer-type-crowd has always tried to get me to race
wing or not... it's made little difference
what makes the difference is how you REACT to the taunting :)
Jamie
| Wraith | 12-22-2004 02:46 PM |
It bothers me when it obstructs my rear view mirror vision. Also, when I first got the car and would quickly check my blindspot, I would think somebody was there and look twice.
| Laugh Damon | 12-22-2004 02:49 PM |
I like my "medium" sized stock wing, when a car is in the right spot behind you at night, there headlights get blocked by the wing, and I'm not blinded
| lawn boy | 12-22-2004 04:44 PM |
only drawback of my V7 replica has been a slight loss of vision and its a little heavy. Gathers a lot of positive attention (read: subaru fans and girls)
| f4phantomii | 12-22-2004 04:59 PM |
I replaced my wing/trunk with a WRX "whale tail" spoiler and I'm much happier.
Rear vision out the back seems 100% improved. I never liked the wing. Rally heritage or not, it simply isn't the rally wing. The downforce it adds is minimal (like 60 lbs at 100 mph or something like that) and it constantly shakes and flexes, which also tells me it isn't doing particularly much.
I've noticed zero difference in how it feels or handles at speed. I've had it up to 100mph on a freeway entrance trying to keep from getting crushed by trucks that wouldn't get over. It felt exactly the same as it did with the wing.
After I did the switch, a coworker commented that it completely changed the look of the car. He also agreed it looked better. Another co-worker has an STi, and after he saw mine, he said he started seeing both his car and the wing as two separate entities. At that point he decided he didn't like the wing either and is planning to go wingless.
Another co-worker commented that the $280 I spent to get a WRX spoiler/trunk will probably save me at least one speeding ticket (even though I'm 31 and have never had a traffic ticket). I suspect he's right. The wing (not the car) got a lot of attention from a variety of folks. I've had 50 year old-ish guys driving a pickup wave frantically and give me a big thumbs up. I've had a younger guy in a pickup nearly run me off the road he was trying so frantically to get me to pull over so he could look at my STi. I've had a farm truckload of migrant workers pull up next to me at a stoplight and comment..."heeeyyyy maaannnn.....nice caaaaaar". I've had cops make u-turns to follow me for several minutes (despite the fact that I was going under the speed limit, and my speedo reads high to boot).
Yes, the wing gets attention, but I feel it is rather the wrong type. I'd rather go ripping up a freeway on ramp and leave everyone behind me going "damn...that *car* is quick!" instead of thinking "damn ricers". To those who know, the STi is still recognizable without the wing, and that is fine by me.
As a side note...I like the Legacy GT wing/spoiler. It's sedan sporty and more elegant than the STi wing.
-Michael
Rear vision out the back seems 100% improved. I never liked the wing. Rally heritage or not, it simply isn't the rally wing. The downforce it adds is minimal (like 60 lbs at 100 mph or something like that) and it constantly shakes and flexes, which also tells me it isn't doing particularly much.
I've noticed zero difference in how it feels or handles at speed. I've had it up to 100mph on a freeway entrance trying to keep from getting crushed by trucks that wouldn't get over. It felt exactly the same as it did with the wing.
After I did the switch, a coworker commented that it completely changed the look of the car. He also agreed it looked better. Another co-worker has an STi, and after he saw mine, he said he started seeing both his car and the wing as two separate entities. At that point he decided he didn't like the wing either and is planning to go wingless.
Another co-worker commented that the $280 I spent to get a WRX spoiler/trunk will probably save me at least one speeding ticket (even though I'm 31 and have never had a traffic ticket). I suspect he's right. The wing (not the car) got a lot of attention from a variety of folks. I've had 50 year old-ish guys driving a pickup wave frantically and give me a big thumbs up. I've had a younger guy in a pickup nearly run me off the road he was trying so frantically to get me to pull over so he could look at my STi. I've had a farm truckload of migrant workers pull up next to me at a stoplight and comment..."heeeyyyy maaannnn.....nice caaaaaar". I've had cops make u-turns to follow me for several minutes (despite the fact that I was going under the speed limit, and my speedo reads high to boot).
Yes, the wing gets attention, but I feel it is rather the wrong type. I'd rather go ripping up a freeway on ramp and leave everyone behind me going "damn...that *car* is quick!" instead of thinking "damn ricers". To those who know, the STi is still recognizable without the wing, and that is fine by me.
As a side note...I like the Legacy GT wing/spoiler. It's sedan sporty and more elegant than the STi wing.
-Michael
| WRXFan420 | 12-22-2004 05:00 PM |
I have the Wings West Pro Wing, I love it and would never think of changing it, unless for a Scoobysport Carbon Fiber Spoiler. Only downsides to the big spoiler are the obstruction out the rear view mirror. It is hard to see the person driving the car behind you. Like previously mentioned it is in the perfect place to block headlights from big trucks which is great. I don't think I would like it if I had the rear window tinted tho. Hard enough to see as it is.
| MF-DIF | 12-22-2004 07:42 PM |
I am pretty happy with my STi wing. No ricers really bother me, cops don't seem to care either. I don't have any problems with visibility. It cuts it down a little bit, but there is still pently of room to see traffic. I've had a couple passengers say they kept thinking there was a car on our ass but it was just the big ass wing in the corner of there eye. :D
| Brahmzy | 12-22-2004 08:19 PM |
I love my couch (sits 4 comfortably) wing.
Except, the first couple of days I drove my car I kept thinking there was a blue car really close in my blind spot! :eek:
Except, the first couple of days I drove my car I kept thinking there was a blue car really close in my blind spot! :eek:
| DJ_STI | 12-22-2004 08:32 PM |
the sti wing on my wrx makes a great place to put items. such as books
| Fogrider | 12-22-2004 08:56 PM |
Love my STI stock wing. I think the tall vertical strakes do more for stability in crosswinds than downforce from the horizontal surface. Impression from 55+ mph gusts on bridges (perpendicular to travel direction) that was pushing others around but I was amazed how little I was affected. Almost 17,000 miles and I've never been pulled over by the police. Also never got pulled over in my modded WRX during 2 years of driving it. I'm 47 and public roads are not the place I choose to flaunt my vehicle's power and handling nor my car control skills.
| nos | 12-23-2004 03:44 PM |
55+ gusts??!! :eek: Great comments. My car came with some fairly dark tinting, so seeing behind at night is already a PITA. But the attention from thers is the big concern, especially since I have heard of people being targeted by cops, ricers, etc. People getting their wings smashed/cracked while they where parked somewhere.
| Skell | 12-23-2004 04:48 PM |
[QUOTE=f4phantomii] I've had it up to 100mph on a freeway entrance trying to keep from getting crushed by trucks that wouldn't get over. -Michael[/QUOTE]
well no offense, but when I merge, I slow the hell down and let the fools in the right lane, pass by first-- works better IMHO.
Anyways, if yer buddies got a wing he doesnt want, I might be able to snatch it from him.... :devil:
well no offense, but when I merge, I slow the hell down and let the fools in the right lane, pass by first-- works better IMHO.
Anyways, if yer buddies got a wing he doesnt want, I might be able to snatch it from him.... :devil:
| strangerq | 12-23-2004 04:51 PM |
The STI is much more stable in cross winds at high-way speeds than the WRX.
I owned both cars so I know...I don't like the way the wing obstructs vision, but I wouldn't remove it as I believe it to be effective.
I owned both cars so I know...I don't like the way the wing obstructs vision, but I wouldn't remove it as I believe it to be effective.
| the2rz | 12-23-2004 05:06 PM |
[QUOTE=kekeroks]well no offense, but when I merge, I slow the hell down and let the fools in the right lane, pass by first-- works better IMHO.
Anyways, if yer buddies got a wing he doesnt want, I might be able to snatch it from him.... :devil:[/QUOTE]
no offense but I cannot stand people that slow down to a snails pace, or even worse stop, on a freaking on ramp. I've been only driving for 13 years and have yet to encounter a situation where speeding up did not work out better than slowing down......to each his own though.
Back on topic, I've got the WRX wing that came with my car and like it. I don't really like the look but am waiting for something nicer to come along before I make a switch. Something between my WRX and the STi height would be ideal.
Anyways, if yer buddies got a wing he doesnt want, I might be able to snatch it from him.... :devil:[/QUOTE]
no offense but I cannot stand people that slow down to a snails pace, or even worse stop, on a freaking on ramp. I've been only driving for 13 years and have yet to encounter a situation where speeding up did not work out better than slowing down......to each his own though.
Back on topic, I've got the WRX wing that came with my car and like it. I don't really like the look but am waiting for something nicer to come along before I make a switch. Something between my WRX and the STi height would be ideal.
| -OneWay- | 12-23-2004 05:51 PM |
before my STI came in I had planned on doing a trunk swap because I didn't like the giant sti spoiler.
after it came in and the more I look at it the more it grows on me so I may keep it,
If I do replace it , I will replace it with the STI cabon fiber GT Spoiler.
after it came in and the more I look at it the more it grows on me so I may keep it,
If I do replace it , I will replace it with the STI cabon fiber GT Spoiler.
| nos | 12-27-2004 10:44 AM |
Yeah, I was hoping that the WRC replica would be a tad shorter. At least to me, the picts I see make them seem a little shorter.
| HoOn | 12-27-2004 03:04 PM |
Last week I was driving about 85 mph on the fast lane when suddenly a cop with blaring headlights came upon me. I am very good at looking out for cops in my area but they totally surprised me. So I pulled to the side thinking he got me, but then he kept going and pulled the old beater car in front of my car. hahahaha We were both cruising at 85mph! So I guess my STi wing had no influence which should ALWAYS be the case.
I hate it when I hear stories about cops following STis because of the wing because it's just plain "profiling."
- John
I hate it when I hear stories about cops following STis because of the wing because it's just plain "profiling."
- John
| nos | 12-27-2004 04:23 PM |
Maybe the guy had a cracked windshield or something? He got gunned since he was in front?
| joey1313 | 12-28-2004 03:16 PM |
I love my big stock ricer wing. Watching flap in the breeze is just so much fun.
| Jonnyfilmboy | 12-29-2004 12:47 AM |
When I first bought my car, it already had the wing on it. I thought to myself, "That's gonna be the first thing to go." But it's really grown on me, mostly because it is hella functional. When I hit 90 mph, the car is glued. I've been up to 112 mph (on a closed course of course) and the wing seemed to really make the car more and more stable the faster I went.
I have an 04 WRX with a Zerosports wing. I get a lot of "small dick" comments from people who drive cars that I hate and who aren't car people and don't know anything about rally cars or aerodynamics. But from WRX people, I get a LOT of good comments. People stop me at the gas station and talk to me about it. It's cool. So I'm keeping it. Probably.
There are some drawbacks. Yeah, rearward visibility is horrible. That's the worst thing about it. And once or twice people have tried to mess with me on the highway. But I can usually lose them. I got a speeding ticket and the cop didn't even want to talk about it. Might have been because of the wing, but who knows. One of my girlfriends hates it (computer programmer), another is indifferent (lawyer). One sister hates it (trains horses in Chicago). The other kind of likes it (graphic designer in San Diego). So consider the sources.
I really wish it had a 3rd brake light though. Really bothers me and I am trying to work out something that I can add that will look OK and not added on. I had neon on my last car's third brake light. Loved it. I want something like that.
[img]http://www.lightstormimages.com/gallery/cars/WRX-16.jpg[/img]
I have an 04 WRX with a Zerosports wing. I get a lot of "small dick" comments from people who drive cars that I hate and who aren't car people and don't know anything about rally cars or aerodynamics. But from WRX people, I get a LOT of good comments. People stop me at the gas station and talk to me about it. It's cool. So I'm keeping it. Probably.
There are some drawbacks. Yeah, rearward visibility is horrible. That's the worst thing about it. And once or twice people have tried to mess with me on the highway. But I can usually lose them. I got a speeding ticket and the cop didn't even want to talk about it. Might have been because of the wing, but who knows. One of my girlfriends hates it (computer programmer), another is indifferent (lawyer). One sister hates it (trains horses in Chicago). The other kind of likes it (graphic designer in San Diego). So consider the sources.
I really wish it had a 3rd brake light though. Really bothers me and I am trying to work out something that I can add that will look OK and not added on. I had neon on my last car's third brake light. Loved it. I want something like that.
[img]http://www.lightstormimages.com/gallery/cars/WRX-16.jpg[/img]
| Jonnyfilmboy | 12-29-2004 12:56 AM |
To me, the best wing out there is the SYMS spoiler. That thing rocks my world.
| SubieStyle | 12-29-2004 03:10 AM |
What seems weird to me is that it seems like I get more people wanting compition w/ out the STi wing than when I had it. I don't have an STi but I use to fool everyone. Maybe they just automaticly saw the wing & thought it was an STi & didn't want to try becuase they knew they'd get spanked. I do miss my wing though. I'd like to find a MINES rear spoiler/lip for my car, they are different & not common. As of now I'm totaly wingless & may be even looking for an RS hood since I have a FMIC. :devil:
| Beer:30 | 01-25-2005 09:54 AM |
I like being wingless.
[img]http://govettego.com/pics/other/cars/sti02.jpg[/img]
[img]http://govettego.com/pics/other/cars/sti02.jpg[/img]
| STIgeorge | 01-25-2005 01:21 PM |
Ive thought about going wingless or replacing the STi's wing with something more, subdued. However, the more I think about it, the STi spoiler just looks good on that car.
Im sitting at my computer now, looking out the window at the ass end of my white STi sitting in the driveway, surrounded by a foot of snow and even though its just sitting there, it looks like it should be going sideways down a tight, snowy mountain pass.
As for attention- Ive driven by countless police, no problems. Ive had two vehicles try to race me, a 911 and a dodge minivan.
The view out the back is somewhat obscured, but if some assnut is following too close in a truck/suv, the wing blocks his/her headlights. Bonus for me.
-George
Im sitting at my computer now, looking out the window at the ass end of my white STi sitting in the driveway, surrounded by a foot of snow and even though its just sitting there, it looks like it should be going sideways down a tight, snowy mountain pass.
As for attention- Ive driven by countless police, no problems. Ive had two vehicles try to race me, a 911 and a dodge minivan.
The view out the back is somewhat obscured, but if some assnut is following too close in a truck/suv, the wing blocks his/her headlights. Bonus for me.
-George
| STI 2 NV | 01-25-2005 01:29 PM |
i ran an sti wing for about a year and just swapped it for an oem again because i needed the cash. it's been gone a couple days and i miss it already. i think the sti wing looks great. it's not too big for me. it blocks the view a little, but that doesn't bother me at all. i will def get the sti wing again or some other wing that has the height close to it.
| MidnightSti05 | 01-25-2005 01:42 PM |
I love the way the wing looks, doesn't really bother my vision- i think initially i was annoyed with the vibration at higher speeds but with the amount that it weighs - very little - it's been pretty good to me.
I hope this thread doesnt turn into a Debate On the Wings.
I hope this thread doesnt turn into a Debate On the Wings.
| Pheasant Plucker | 01-25-2005 02:12 PM |
[QUOTE=Subie Gal]what makes the difference is how you REACT to the taunting[/QUOTE]Right on Jamie. If you won't race they never know and thus feel even more insecure!
PP
PP
| suby4ub | 01-25-2005 02:52 PM |
[QUOTE=Laugh Damon]I like my "medium" sized stock wing, when a car is in the right spot behind you at night, there headlights get blocked by the wing, and I'm not blinded[/QUOTE]
i have the low spoiler on my new gc8 but my old one had the "medium" wing i liked that alot more almost enough to justify buying it for this car.
i have the low spoiler on my new gc8 but my old one had the "medium" wing i liked that alot more almost enough to justify buying it for this car.
| quentinberg007 | 01-25-2005 03:19 PM |
[QUOTE=f4phantomii]and it constantly shakes and flexes, which also tells me it isn't doing particularly much.
-Michael[/QUOTE]
Those shaking and flexing wings of the 747 I was flying in must not have been doing much either. Magic must have carried the plane.
Not having a wing isn't going to save you from any tickets, either. When I drove an impreza L, which had no rear spoiler, I got 2 speeding tickets and a 3rd ticket for an illegal manuveur. My RS has the medium sized coupe wing and what do you know, I don't have a single ticket!!!! Not driving like a dumbass has saved me from tickets in the past 2.5 years, not the size of my wing. That is typical to blame the ticket on the car rather than taking responsibility for driving in a way that is against the law. It is the american way.
If you like the wing, keep it or get one for you WRX/RS. If you don't like it, don't get it or trade it away. There is no reason to make up reasons to justify why you got rid of it. F4, I know you are an aerospace engineer. You should know better than to just hypothesize and treat it as truth without having any test data.
~~Quentin
-Michael[/QUOTE]
Those shaking and flexing wings of the 747 I was flying in must not have been doing much either. Magic must have carried the plane.
Not having a wing isn't going to save you from any tickets, either. When I drove an impreza L, which had no rear spoiler, I got 2 speeding tickets and a 3rd ticket for an illegal manuveur. My RS has the medium sized coupe wing and what do you know, I don't have a single ticket!!!! Not driving like a dumbass has saved me from tickets in the past 2.5 years, not the size of my wing. That is typical to blame the ticket on the car rather than taking responsibility for driving in a way that is against the law. It is the american way.
If you like the wing, keep it or get one for you WRX/RS. If you don't like it, don't get it or trade it away. There is no reason to make up reasons to justify why you got rid of it. F4, I know you are an aerospace engineer. You should know better than to just hypothesize and treat it as truth without having any test data.
~~Quentin
| SeanLee | 01-25-2005 03:21 PM |
It's obviously just for looks. Personally, I'm not a big fan of wings in general. However, it does give it a distinct look and I'd never think of removing it :)
| powerslide23 | 01-25-2005 03:28 PM |
[QUOTE=Wraith]It bothers me when it obstructs my rear view mirror vision. Also, when I first got the car and would quickly check my blindspot, I would think somebody was there and look twice.[/QUOTE]
Ditto and my passenger too. :D
Ditto and my passenger too. :D
| JackClark | 01-26-2005 01:42 AM |
I came out of a resteraunt one time to find a father trying to get his son to belive that my STi was a "flying car" - just look at the big wing. At first I was a little annoyed, but then again, if I had a kid, I'd probably have done the same thing.
| Biggs | 01-26-2005 02:50 AM |
I think the big wings do attract more attention and cops do profile. Whether you like it or not, profiling is usually effective. However, when they are profiling, they tend to go for the older rattier cars instead of the nice, new cars. I would be willing to bet that 9 times out of 10 when you see a cop following you in your STi, it's only because they know what it is and wanna check it out. Not because you're doing anything wrong. Give them a friendly wave and they'll probably return it.
When I was in the military and we pulled people over for random vehicle searches, we always pulled over the more exotic cars like Saleens and stuff like that when we could because we wanted to check em out. Also if the driver was an attractive female. :disco:
When I was in the military and we pulled people over for random vehicle searches, we always pulled over the more exotic cars like Saleens and stuff like that when we could because we wanted to check em out. Also if the driver was an attractive female. :disco:
| kpxplaya415 | 01-26-2005 03:34 AM |
[QUOTE=SeanLee]It's obviously just for looks. Personally, I'm not a big fan of wings in general. However, it does give it a distinct look and I'd never think of removing it :)[/QUOTE]
You [b]obviously[/b] don't realize that the STi wing [b]DOES[/b] provide downforce :rolleyes:
You [b]obviously[/b] don't realize that the STi wing [b]DOES[/b] provide downforce :rolleyes:
| Beer:30 | 01-26-2005 10:10 AM |
[QUOTE=kpxplaya415]You [b]obviously[/b] don't realize that the STi wing [b]DOES[/b] provide downforce :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
So does your hand if you stick it out the window and angle it the right way.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
So does your hand if you stick it out the window and angle it the right way.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
| kpxplaya415 | 01-26-2005 12:32 PM |
[QUOTE=Beer:30]So does your hand if you stick it out the window and angle it the right way.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
great comparison and such a tasteful joke. might as well trade in your STi now for a civic
:o
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
great comparison and such a tasteful joke. might as well trade in your STi now for a civic
:o
| polyol | 01-26-2005 01:35 PM |
Traded mine for a regular WRX wing. I like it a lot better...didnt like the attention the big wing got (cops etc) and I didnt like how it was right in the way of the RVM.
| YourMother'sLover | 01-26-2005 02:08 PM |
Well if someone wants to trade their PSM STi Wing for my stock WRX wing....I'm more than willing to accomodate that.
YM'sL
YM'sL
| scrmblr2 | 01-26-2005 02:22 PM |
[QUOTE=BakedCookies]mines not going anywhere, attention or not. [/QUOTE]
Same here. Always wanted to put one on my wrx. Now i gots da real thing yo.
Same here. Always wanted to put one on my wrx. Now i gots da real thing yo.
| MattJP | 01-26-2005 02:57 PM |
I had big wing envy for a while but really have grown to like the stock spoiler on my RS... :p
Matt -
Matt -
| AWDrifter21 | 01-26-2005 03:21 PM |
Ive driven a WRX/STi with the STi wing and I think its great. Rally heritage or not, it differentiates and makes the STi unique and gives it character. Of course, personal preference plays a role.
So far I've been in threads asking people for trades or sales for my stock WRX WRBlue wing for an STi wing, but NO LUCK.... any takers?
People said a lot of STi owners want the wrx wing, but where are you guys, im in NJ.
So far I've been in threads asking people for trades or sales for my stock WRX WRBlue wing for an STi wing, but NO LUCK.... any takers?
People said a lot of STi owners want the wrx wing, but where are you guys, im in NJ.
| afpdl | 01-26-2005 04:14 PM |
For some reason Ive had more people try to race me when I had my bone stock wrx wagon then in my sti. I see more people looking at it but not really any negative attention. The car also feels better at 140 then my wagon did at 110 and both cars were on coilovers so it wasnt just suspension. None of that is scientific but thats been my experiances.
| bobert517 | 01-26-2005 05:21 PM |
if anyone wants to get ride or has a extra wing just pm me. preferably WRB
| NimrodBoz | 01-26-2005 05:42 PM |
[QUOTE=Laugh Damon]I like my "medium" sized stock wing, when a car is in the right spot behind you at night, there headlights get blocked by the wing, and I'm not blinded[/QUOTE]
exactly why i love the coupe wing! more often than not at night it perfectly blocks the rear lights. i personally love the wing and its presence in the rearview mirror, in fact it helps you perectly align the mirror to the rear window if youre a perfectionist like me. :D
if you dont like the impreza w/ wing style, then buy an impreza without or another car
exactly why i love the coupe wing! more often than not at night it perfectly blocks the rear lights. i personally love the wing and its presence in the rearview mirror, in fact it helps you perectly align the mirror to the rear window if youre a perfectionist like me. :D
if you dont like the impreza w/ wing style, then buy an impreza without or another car
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