| engineerx | 05-09-2005 06:59 PM |
The Ultimate License Plate Bracket for FMIC Applications
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After searching for all the available options... I decided to get a little creative
[SIZE=3][B]The problem is blockage of Cooling Air Management:
Radiator / FMIC / Brakes[/B][/SIZE]
[IMG]http://subaru-wrx-sti.com/web/MODS/brakeducts/bducts.jpg[/IMG]
[SIZE=3][B]I didn't want to block cooling air to any of the above systems so my best solution was to make a tilting license plate bracket[/B][/SIZE]
[IMG]http://subaru-wrx-sti.com/web/MODS/tiltingplate.jpg[/IMG]
[SIZE=3][B] See it in action: [url]http://subaru-wrx-sti.com/web/MODS/tiltplate.wmv[/url] [/B][/SIZE] :D
So much for blurrrrrrrring plates :lol:
[SIZE=3][B]The problem is blockage of Cooling Air Management:
Radiator / FMIC / Brakes[/B][/SIZE]
[IMG]http://subaru-wrx-sti.com/web/MODS/brakeducts/bducts.jpg[/IMG]
[SIZE=3][B]I didn't want to block cooling air to any of the above systems so my best solution was to make a tilting license plate bracket[/B][/SIZE]
[IMG]http://subaru-wrx-sti.com/web/MODS/tiltingplate.jpg[/IMG]
[SIZE=3][B] See it in action: [url]http://subaru-wrx-sti.com/web/MODS/tiltplate.wmv[/url] [/B][/SIZE] :D
So much for blurrrrrrrring plates :lol:
| Amazake | 05-09-2005 07:04 PM |
WOW, you must be an engineer!
god I miss red rocket.
god I miss red rocket.
| bmagna | 05-09-2005 07:05 PM |
pretty cool
| dalesti | 05-09-2005 07:06 PM |
very good Idea! I'd be interested in one :)
| XS_WRX | 05-09-2005 09:20 PM |
whered u get those little scoops for the fog covers? i'd hit it. :thumbs up!:
-alan
-alan
| engineerx | 05-09-2005 10:08 PM |
[QUOTE=Amazake]WOW, you must be an engineer!
god I miss red rocket.[/QUOTE]
:D Only at the office !
[QUOTE=dalesti]very good Idea! I'd be interested in one :)[/QUOTE]
It's an easy mod. All you need is
*2 aluminum hinges
*L-shape bracket (you can ask any local CF-shop for scrap pieces or you can use any other material)
*2 small allen head or any other bolt of your choice to secure license plate
*2 flat head bolts to secure bracket to bumper
Just measure & cut - I used a dremel cutting tool
[QUOTE=XS_WRX]whered u get those little scoops for the fog covers? i'd hit it. :thumbs up!:
-alan[/QUOTE]
Thanks Alan!
The scoops are also one of my "creations" - home made, I used the USDM foglight bezels, plastic ducts, glue
I'll be posting the mod soon, just gotta finish the mesh screen to keep debris out
In the mean time follow this thread: [url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=636548[/url] to post #10 & [URL=http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7652720&postcount=14]#14[/URL] I posted the parts I used a while back.
god I miss red rocket.[/QUOTE]
:D Only at the office !
[QUOTE=dalesti]very good Idea! I'd be interested in one :)[/QUOTE]
It's an easy mod. All you need is
*2 aluminum hinges
*L-shape bracket (you can ask any local CF-shop for scrap pieces or you can use any other material)
*2 small allen head or any other bolt of your choice to secure license plate
*2 flat head bolts to secure bracket to bumper
Just measure & cut - I used a dremel cutting tool
[QUOTE=XS_WRX]whered u get those little scoops for the fog covers? i'd hit it. :thumbs up!:
-alan[/QUOTE]
Thanks Alan!
The scoops are also one of my "creations" - home made, I used the USDM foglight bezels, plastic ducts, glue
I'll be posting the mod soon, just gotta finish the mesh screen to keep debris out
In the mean time follow this thread: [url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=636548[/url] to post #10 & [URL=http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7652720&postcount=14]#14[/URL] I posted the parts I used a while back.
| Javier | 05-09-2005 10:50 PM |
How did you get the spring loaded action working?
| Capt Crunch | 05-09-2005 10:55 PM |
what grill material did you use for the lower opening?
| intence | 05-09-2005 10:55 PM |
meh, nice idea. pics are sort of big.
| ofay | 05-09-2005 11:01 PM |
i think that is illegal in texas, only because it lays back and is not eaisly seen. they call it an obstruction
| moss | 05-09-2005 11:02 PM |
Looks horrible... why not have it tilt the other way!
| Bumble Bee 03 | 05-09-2005 11:04 PM |
very good idea!, but i still dont like front plates:)
| moss | 05-09-2005 11:11 PM |
^ + 1.... I havent had one for 3yrs
| TygerStile | 05-09-2005 11:24 PM |
Good stuff Roland. You and all your diy mods :D .
| piker28 | 05-09-2005 11:33 PM |
thats a cool idea other than it smacking into your bumper
but
could you make one that works in the normal location but bends back into the lower grill area and then at slow speeds is normal? basically same idea just in stock spot but into lower area
i have no mounts anywhere so why worry about air flow haha
but
could you make one that works in the normal location but bends back into the lower grill area and then at slow speeds is normal? basically same idea just in stock spot but into lower area
i have no mounts anywhere so why worry about air flow haha
| Javier | 05-09-2005 11:36 PM |
For people with FMIC's there is no space to fold it into the lower grill...
| piker28 | 05-09-2005 11:40 PM |
hence i said i have none since im an RS!!!
i just want my bling to :(
i just want my bling to :(
| engineerx | 05-10-2005 04:33 AM |
[QUOTE=Javier]How did you get the spring loaded action working?[/QUOTE]
I still have to go to the hardware store and source a light spring to get the right resistance
[QUOTE=Capt Crunch]what grill material did you use for the lower opening?[/QUOTE]
Just some cheap aluminum grille from [URL=http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=APA%2D410160&N=305152&autoview=sku]Summitracing[/URL]
[QUOTE=intence]meh, nice idea. pics are sort of big.[/QUOTE]
Sorry - I thought people migh want to see more detaile pics
[QUOTE=ofay]i think that is illegal in texas, only because it lays back and is not eaisly seen. they call it an obstruction[/QUOTE]
It probably is illegal here in California as well - a friend of mine got a ticket for not having front plate while his car was parked on the street = $27
I can always "lock" it in place and tilt it when I go to track day events. Most of my mods are track-oriented :D
[QUOTE=moss]Looks horrible... why not have it tilt the other way![/QUOTE]
There's no room, the whole purpose is to clear path for cooling air for the FMIC
[IMG]http://subaru-wrx-sti.com/web/MODS/fmic4.JPG[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Bumble Bee 03]very good idea!, but i still dont like front plates:)[/QUOTE]
Me neither ! but Calif has damn front plate requirement code and cops love to use it to stop you and look or other violations..... I'll be installing a rotated mount turbo (APS DR55) soon .... so I want to be as "legal" as possible :)
[QUOTE=TygerStile]Good stuff Roland. You and all your diy mods :D .[/QUOTE]
Hey Mike ! I get a whole bunch of ideas most, never come to fruition. There's only so much I can build with a dremel, a drill, screws, and glue :lol:
[QUOTE=piker28]thats a cool idea other than it smacking into your bumper
but could you make one that works in the normal location but bends back into the lower grill area and then at slow speeds is normal? basically same idea just in stock spot but into lower area
i have no mounts anywhere so why worry about air flow haha[/QUOTE]
That would work perfect if you don't have a FMIC. But it would be even less visible.... are you trying to sneak past those pesky ticket cameras at intersections? :lol:
mmm... but if I recall correctly , there's a black plastic middle section that provides rigidit to the lower opening.... If there's enough room you can have the plate folding in there.
[QUOTE=piker28]hence i said i have none since im an RS!!!
i just want my bling to :([/QUOTE]
Hehehe!! well... gotta have some bling too !
I still have to go to the hardware store and source a light spring to get the right resistance
[QUOTE=Capt Crunch]what grill material did you use for the lower opening?[/QUOTE]
Just some cheap aluminum grille from [URL=http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=APA%2D410160&N=305152&autoview=sku]Summitracing[/URL]
[QUOTE=intence]meh, nice idea. pics are sort of big.[/QUOTE]
Sorry - I thought people migh want to see more detaile pics
[QUOTE=ofay]i think that is illegal in texas, only because it lays back and is not eaisly seen. they call it an obstruction[/QUOTE]
It probably is illegal here in California as well - a friend of mine got a ticket for not having front plate while his car was parked on the street = $27
I can always "lock" it in place and tilt it when I go to track day events. Most of my mods are track-oriented :D
[QUOTE=moss]Looks horrible... why not have it tilt the other way![/QUOTE]
There's no room, the whole purpose is to clear path for cooling air for the FMIC
[IMG]http://subaru-wrx-sti.com/web/MODS/fmic4.JPG[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Bumble Bee 03]very good idea!, but i still dont like front plates:)[/QUOTE]
Me neither ! but Calif has damn front plate requirement code and cops love to use it to stop you and look or other violations..... I'll be installing a rotated mount turbo (APS DR55) soon .... so I want to be as "legal" as possible :)
[QUOTE=TygerStile]Good stuff Roland. You and all your diy mods :D .[/QUOTE]
Hey Mike ! I get a whole bunch of ideas most, never come to fruition. There's only so much I can build with a dremel, a drill, screws, and glue :lol:
[QUOTE=piker28]thats a cool idea other than it smacking into your bumper
but could you make one that works in the normal location but bends back into the lower grill area and then at slow speeds is normal? basically same idea just in stock spot but into lower area
i have no mounts anywhere so why worry about air flow haha[/QUOTE]
That would work perfect if you don't have a FMIC. But it would be even less visible.... are you trying to sneak past those pesky ticket cameras at intersections? :lol:
mmm... but if I recall correctly , there's a black plastic middle section that provides rigidit to the lower opening.... If there's enough room you can have the plate folding in there.
[QUOTE=piker28]hence i said i have none since im an RS!!!
i just want my bling to :([/QUOTE]
Hehehe!! well... gotta have some bling too !
| engineerx | 06-10-2005 04:25 AM |
[SIZE=3][B] See it in action on the road!: [url]http://subaru-wrx-sti.com/web/MODS/tiltinglicense.wmv[/url] [/B][/SIZE] :D
| 4wdrift | 06-10-2005 04:40 AM |
There are a ton of tilting and spring loaded mounts for sale in Japan, on acount of all the speed cameras on the highway.
They are calibated to fold back under at about 60-80kph. I have two. :D I am willing to bet a basket of apples that you can go to the Autobacs in L.A. and they will have them there.
Worth a shot....
E.
They are calibated to fold back under at about 60-80kph. I have two. :D I am willing to bet a basket of apples that you can go to the Autobacs in L.A. and they will have them there.
Worth a shot....
E.
| pezman04wrx | 06-10-2005 11:08 AM |
[QUOTE=Amazake]WOW, you must be an engineer![/QUOTE]
No way ... Any decent engineer knows that it takes time and money to develop something such as a plate relocation bracket ... You need (entire) cars for test fitting of various models, design/tooling/nre funds, and a sweet receptionist for coffee break fun ... :D
No way ... Any decent engineer knows that it takes time and money to develop something such as a plate relocation bracket ... You need (entire) cars for test fitting of various models, design/tooling/nre funds, and a sweet receptionist for coffee break fun ... :D
| o2sys | 06-10-2005 11:43 AM |
its nice, but honestly its ugly, can you just use the EVO front license plate holder?
| FlyingFishSandwich | 06-10-2005 11:58 AM |
I drew up a kingergarden solution for the plate to fold down in this thread.
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=745796[/url]
It looks like the plate lays right against the paint in your solution and it would only be a matter of time before you got scratches.
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=745796[/url]
It looks like the plate lays right against the paint in your solution and it would only be a matter of time before you got scratches.
| kpmatt00 | 06-10-2005 01:31 PM |
[QUOTE=FlyingFishSandwich]I drew up a kingergarden solution for the plate to fold down in this thread.
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=745796[/url]
It looks like the plate lays right against the paint in your solution and it would only be a matter of time before you got scratches.[/QUOTE]
this looks way better than the tilting plate imo, however if we have those speed cameras then....
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=745796[/url]
It looks like the plate lays right against the paint in your solution and it would only be a matter of time before you got scratches.[/QUOTE]
this looks way better than the tilting plate imo, however if we have those speed cameras then....
| engineerx | 06-10-2005 03:09 PM |
[QUOTE=FlyingFishSandwich]I drew up a kingergarden solution for the plate to fold down in this thread.
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=745796[/url]
It looks like the plate lays right against the paint in your solution and it would only be a matter of time before you got scratches.[/QUOTE]
You're 100% right - I glued 2 soft rubber grommets in back of the plate so they hit the bumper and not the plate... I was thinking about stopping it at the hinges so there's no contact at all
I was looking at some of the Japanese brackets but too expensive - most were close to $100!
The location I chose because:
- I made some DIY Brake Ducts - so the side area would obstruct airflow
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=771013[/url]
[url]http://subaru-wrx-sti.com/web/MODS/brakeducts/brakeducts.html[/url]
- I could not have the plate fold downwards, because the grille for the FMIC is there
I considered all those other locations and after thousands of fluid dynamics calculations on the Craig ..... all data pointed to the location I chose for maximum airflow.... I'll need to get as much air into the FMIC as possible after I finish installing the APS rotated mount turbo and rest of mods.... :devil:
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=745796[/url]
It looks like the plate lays right against the paint in your solution and it would only be a matter of time before you got scratches.[/QUOTE]
You're 100% right - I glued 2 soft rubber grommets in back of the plate so they hit the bumper and not the plate... I was thinking about stopping it at the hinges so there's no contact at all
I was looking at some of the Japanese brackets but too expensive - most were close to $100!
The location I chose because:
- I made some DIY Brake Ducts - so the side area would obstruct airflow
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=771013[/url]
[url]http://subaru-wrx-sti.com/web/MODS/brakeducts/brakeducts.html[/url]
- I could not have the plate fold downwards, because the grille for the FMIC is there
I considered all those other locations and after thousands of fluid dynamics calculations on the Craig ..... all data pointed to the location I chose for maximum airflow.... I'll need to get as much air into the FMIC as possible after I finish installing the APS rotated mount turbo and rest of mods.... :devil:
| wReXeRw | 06-10-2005 04:02 PM |
About your FMIC and the replacement beam.
Was the huge stock bumper beam just bolted off and the new one (that comes with the fmic) just replaces it, which also just bolts in?
Was the huge stock bumper beam just bolted off and the new one (that comes with the fmic) just replaces it, which also just bolts in?
| jnorth85 | 06-10-2005 05:06 PM |
thats a great write up on the brake cooling ducts
what cage is in your car? also what are the different chassis braces you have ?
what cage is in your car? also what are the different chassis braces you have ?
| cnk | 06-10-2005 05:16 PM |
[QUOTE=wReXeRw]About your FMIC and the replacement beam.
Was the huge stock bumper beam just bolted off and the new one (that comes with the fmic) just replaces it, which also just bolts in?[/QUOTE]
He's running an APS FMIC, based on the pics, which comes with a replacement bumper beam. Take the stock one off and bolt up the replacement beam.
Calvin
Was the huge stock bumper beam just bolted off and the new one (that comes with the fmic) just replaces it, which also just bolts in?[/QUOTE]
He's running an APS FMIC, based on the pics, which comes with a replacement bumper beam. Take the stock one off and bolt up the replacement beam.
Calvin
| engineerx | 06-10-2005 06:18 PM |
[QUOTE=wReXeRw]About your FMIC and the replacement beam.
Was the huge stock bumper beam just bolted off and the new one (that comes with the fmic) just replaces it, which also just bolts in?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.aps-wrx.com/wrx/apswrx-fmi-r4/dr725_fmic.htm[/url]
That's what's awesome about APS - one of the best engineered (albeit a bit expensive @ $1500) FMIC for the WRX. APS includes a bumper beam which is a little better than the other FMIC's from other manufacturers that do not include a bumper beam - just the IC core. While the APS package will probably not perform as well as the stock bumper beam, it does offer better collision reinforcement. Just by looking at the beam (right on top of the the core) one can see it is stronger than just the thin aluminum core alone. - Hopefully I'll never find out how good it is! :D
[QUOTE=jnorth85]thats a great write up on the brake cooling ducts
what cage is in your car? also what are the different chassis braces you have ?[/QUOTE]
The cage is a non-competition-approved 7-pt Cusco cage. One of the mods on my list is to reinforce the floor plates by welding structural tubing to the chassis rails for better shear reinforcements and avoid "punch-thru"
The Braces: GT Spec 14-point subframe / Cusco Lower V2 brace
The brake ducts worked awesome at the track (only place you'll see their benefit - oh and while going downhill on canyon runs) I noticed no fade at all. And I observed (non-scientific) my brakes were alot cooler than another STI's runing that day - its brakes were literally smoking, mine were not and I was pushing my car even harder on the straights
Definitely a mod I recommend IF you do track events or lots of canyon runs BUT THEY'RE REALLY UGLY :alien:
[QUOTE=cnk]He's running an APS FMIC, based on the pics, which comes with a replacement bumper beam. Take the stock one off and bolt up the replacement beam.
Calvin[/QUOTE]
Exactly! That's is the WHOLE reason why I did the infamous Fugly "Tilting License Plate" not for bling, not for fame, just for functionality and to share with fellow NASIOC people :D and to somewhat comply with the California Vehicle Code - I know that if a cops sees it while it's tilted back.... I may still get stopped... but the chances are decreased since it only tilts when going 40+ mph
Believe me I want to keep my mods as stealth as possible - I'm even foregoing the 3.5" APS melon thrower muffler with 4.5" tip in favor of 2 Magnaflow ovals (in series for noise control) .... I'll post that mod when done with Decibel readings ;)
Was the huge stock bumper beam just bolted off and the new one (that comes with the fmic) just replaces it, which also just bolts in?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.aps-wrx.com/wrx/apswrx-fmi-r4/dr725_fmic.htm[/url]
That's what's awesome about APS - one of the best engineered (albeit a bit expensive @ $1500) FMIC for the WRX. APS includes a bumper beam which is a little better than the other FMIC's from other manufacturers that do not include a bumper beam - just the IC core. While the APS package will probably not perform as well as the stock bumper beam, it does offer better collision reinforcement. Just by looking at the beam (right on top of the the core) one can see it is stronger than just the thin aluminum core alone. - Hopefully I'll never find out how good it is! :D
[QUOTE=jnorth85]thats a great write up on the brake cooling ducts
what cage is in your car? also what are the different chassis braces you have ?[/QUOTE]
The cage is a non-competition-approved 7-pt Cusco cage. One of the mods on my list is to reinforce the floor plates by welding structural tubing to the chassis rails for better shear reinforcements and avoid "punch-thru"
The Braces: GT Spec 14-point subframe / Cusco Lower V2 brace
The brake ducts worked awesome at the track (only place you'll see their benefit - oh and while going downhill on canyon runs) I noticed no fade at all. And I observed (non-scientific) my brakes were alot cooler than another STI's runing that day - its brakes were literally smoking, mine were not and I was pushing my car even harder on the straights
Definitely a mod I recommend IF you do track events or lots of canyon runs BUT THEY'RE REALLY UGLY :alien:
[QUOTE=cnk]He's running an APS FMIC, based on the pics, which comes with a replacement bumper beam. Take the stock one off and bolt up the replacement beam.
Calvin[/QUOTE]
Exactly! That's is the WHOLE reason why I did the infamous Fugly "Tilting License Plate" not for bling, not for fame, just for functionality and to share with fellow NASIOC people :D and to somewhat comply with the California Vehicle Code - I know that if a cops sees it while it's tilted back.... I may still get stopped... but the chances are decreased since it only tilts when going 40+ mph
Believe me I want to keep my mods as stealth as possible - I'm even foregoing the 3.5" APS melon thrower muffler with 4.5" tip in favor of 2 Magnaflow ovals (in series for noise control) .... I'll post that mod when done with Decibel readings ;)
| wReXeRw | 06-10-2005 06:18 PM |
i see. I always thought the stock bumper beam was welded not bolted :p
| rukkie | 06-10-2005 06:21 PM |
It's ugly :( Tilting downwards look good but upwards just look really ugly to me. I think I've also read somewhere on the news saying the cops stopped some guy for having a mechanism that tilts the license plate with a trigger and got pulled over and gave them a real hard time. It might be better if you run without one if you want a spring loaded mechanism if you ask me. Fix it ticket is cheaper and no plate definitely looks better. Sorry I know I sound harsh but oh well ^_^ an opinion is an opinion.
| engineerx | 06-10-2005 06:26 PM |
[QUOTE=rukkie]It's ugly :( Tilting downwards look good but upwards just look really ugly to me.[/QUOTE]
Yes indeed !
As I mentioned several times....
FMIC and lower grill are on the way + there's no room + that would make it less desirable for the cops
Tilting upwards at least still lets you see the letters and I may just get lucky if stopped by arguing it would make it more visible to Police helicopters and red-light cameras!
Also - I don't wanna obstruct airflow to the brake duct intakes.....
NO PROB....
Everyone is entitled to their opinion - and you just made a good point about not having the plate at all being better than the "hiding" mechanism
The tilt is not that much ... about 45 degrees and you can still read the letters. I'll report if I ever get pulled ... then again some Cops just pull you over for no reason - hope I keep my 10-year-without-traffic-ticket record clean. I already got pulled over once (bone stock 2 months w/ car) for absolutely no reason - popped hood - nada / no ticket! and another time by Highway Patrol , going too fast on freeway interchange, took the "best" line on the connector... cop told me, I said yes I did that but I noticed no cars at all, not going overly fast etc.. cop was cool and just checked my lic & reg - no ticket / 3rd's a charm ! - enough ranting !
Yes indeed !
As I mentioned several times....
FMIC and lower grill are on the way + there's no room + that would make it less desirable for the cops
Tilting upwards at least still lets you see the letters and I may just get lucky if stopped by arguing it would make it more visible to Police helicopters and red-light cameras!
Also - I don't wanna obstruct airflow to the brake duct intakes.....
NO PROB....
Everyone is entitled to their opinion - and you just made a good point about not having the plate at all being better than the "hiding" mechanism
The tilt is not that much ... about 45 degrees and you can still read the letters. I'll report if I ever get pulled ... then again some Cops just pull you over for no reason - hope I keep my 10-year-without-traffic-ticket record clean. I already got pulled over once (bone stock 2 months w/ car) for absolutely no reason - popped hood - nada / no ticket! and another time by Highway Patrol , going too fast on freeway interchange, took the "best" line on the connector... cop told me, I said yes I did that but I noticed no cars at all, not going overly fast etc.. cop was cool and just checked my lic & reg - no ticket / 3rd's a charm ! - enough ranting !
| rukkie | 06-10-2005 07:08 PM |
glad you didn't take it too hard :) Good luck with your product.
| FlyingFishSandwich | 06-10-2005 11:59 PM |
I think I'm a lot like you, function over form and all that. Since you've got the FMIC you might reduce your police attention greatly by painting your hood and shaving your scoop. You also mentioned you were looking for a "stealth" exaust above and that is a quality I hold in high regard as well. From my looking into it I would recommend the Borla Hush. It's a conservative twin tip with a hush'ed exaust note. This guy doesn't seem to like it.
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=781672[/url]
...but it sounds like he was running a fart can before and got pressured into switching. I bet he is missing the noise more than the minuscule loss in performance.
Over all I'm glad to see that there is another person out there with good taste and a strong engineering ethic. If I could give you a pink title it would be "Mac Gyver."
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=781672[/url]
...but it sounds like he was running a fart can before and got pressured into switching. I bet he is missing the noise more than the minuscule loss in performance.
Over all I'm glad to see that there is another person out there with good taste and a strong engineering ethic. If I could give you a pink title it would be "Mac Gyver."
| engineerx | 06-11-2005 08:48 PM |
[QUOTE=FlyingFishSandwich]I think I'm a lot like you, function over form and all that. Since you've got the FMIC you might reduce your police attention greatly by painting your hood and shaving your scoop. You also mentioned you were looking for a "stealth" exaust above and that is a quality I hold in high regard as well. From my looking into it I would recommend the Borla Hush. It's a conservative twin tip with a hush'ed exaust note. This guy doesn't seem to like it.
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=781672[/url]
...but it sounds like he was running a fart can before and got pressured into switching. I bet he is missing the noise more than the minuscule loss in performance.
Over all I'm glad to see that there is another person out there with good taste and a strong engineering ethic. If I could give you a pink title it would be "Mac Gyver."[/QUOTE]
Hahahah !!! thanks! - I like trying different approaches, gaining performance but not too crazy on loud exhaust and try to keep part that don't offer good performance benefit out of the car.
Coincidently I was looking into the Borla hush but I wanted to match the 3.5" diameter of the APS TBE to a "more conservative-looking" oval muffler so yesterday I ordered two 5x8 Magnaflow 3.5" mufflers (one large, one small) These are "straight-thru" perforated pipe so they should have pretty good flow, but I'll use TWO in series because their low-restrictive design also means that the sound energy does not dissipate as much as baffled mufflers. I'll make sure I post results once I'm done in a month or so.
[url]http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/shopexd.asp?zone=main&id=568[/url]
[IMG]http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/parts/race_oval.jpg[/IMG]
I'll install them in series and measure the noise level and hopefully it's below the required 95 dB (I will measure it with a dB meter!) There's also an "insert" that reduces noise and is supposed to be not too restrictive
[IMG]http://www.secureperformanceorder.com/dynatechstore/images/Vortex_howitworks.jpg[/IMG]
[url]http://www.secureperformanceorder.com/dynatechstore/vortex.cfm[/url]
The APS TBE I have will definitely get me a citation
[url]http://www.aps-wrx.com/us_spec/subaru/exhausts/apswrx-hoe-r5/apswrx-hoe-r5.htm[/url]
[IMG]http://www.aps-wrx.com/wrx/my01/exhausts/3_5inch_race/3_5_inch_rear.jpg[/IMG]
Now that I'm going to install the big turbo and fuel rails..... I'm seriously considering loosing the CF hood & trunk... although I have not yet been harrassed just for the way the car looks right now.
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=781672[/url]
...but it sounds like he was running a fart can before and got pressured into switching. I bet he is missing the noise more than the minuscule loss in performance.
Over all I'm glad to see that there is another person out there with good taste and a strong engineering ethic. If I could give you a pink title it would be "Mac Gyver."[/QUOTE]
Hahahah !!! thanks! - I like trying different approaches, gaining performance but not too crazy on loud exhaust and try to keep part that don't offer good performance benefit out of the car.
Coincidently I was looking into the Borla hush but I wanted to match the 3.5" diameter of the APS TBE to a "more conservative-looking" oval muffler so yesterday I ordered two 5x8 Magnaflow 3.5" mufflers (one large, one small) These are "straight-thru" perforated pipe so they should have pretty good flow, but I'll use TWO in series because their low-restrictive design also means that the sound energy does not dissipate as much as baffled mufflers. I'll make sure I post results once I'm done in a month or so.
[url]http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/shopexd.asp?zone=main&id=568[/url]
[IMG]http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/parts/race_oval.jpg[/IMG]
I'll install them in series and measure the noise level and hopefully it's below the required 95 dB (I will measure it with a dB meter!) There's also an "insert" that reduces noise and is supposed to be not too restrictive
[IMG]http://www.secureperformanceorder.com/dynatechstore/images/Vortex_howitworks.jpg[/IMG]
[url]http://www.secureperformanceorder.com/dynatechstore/vortex.cfm[/url]
The APS TBE I have will definitely get me a citation
[url]http://www.aps-wrx.com/us_spec/subaru/exhausts/apswrx-hoe-r5/apswrx-hoe-r5.htm[/url]
[IMG]http://www.aps-wrx.com/wrx/my01/exhausts/3_5inch_race/3_5_inch_rear.jpg[/IMG]
Now that I'm going to install the big turbo and fuel rails..... I'm seriously considering loosing the CF hood & trunk... although I have not yet been harrassed just for the way the car looks right now.
| Bareass | 05-25-2006 06:43 PM |
can't you just pait the cf hood and trunk...thay way ur not getting harrassed by the cops and u still got the lightened body panels... seems to me to be the best of both worlds
| humbleRex | 09-04-2007 04:18 AM |
can this be done to the 06?
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