| jikhead | 10-08-2004 02:57 PM |
Anyone installed Evo Recaro's in their WRX?
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I was wondering if anyone has attempted to install the EVO 8 Recaro seats into a WRX? If so, any fitment issues, etc., and what seat rails where needed to install?
| FunkyBoost | 10-18-2004 12:17 PM |
Also every interested in this topic. Bump.
| MomoWRX | 10-18-2004 12:33 PM |
me 2
| bluestone | 10-18-2004 12:35 PM |
i was going to but couldn't find a set and got jdm sti seats instead. i assume you can get the subaru-specific rails from recaro and put them in just like any other recaro seat.
| 5spdfrk | 10-18-2004 12:40 PM |
The seat material would probably be a close match to the rest of the wrx, IIRC.
| jimbobrand | 10-18-2004 03:41 PM |
I'm guessing from the few EVO's I've been in that there would be a fair ammount of fabrication/modification involved in putting these into a WRX as these are not some off the shelf Recaro racing seat. These seats are built to OEM specs and do not come apart with four bolts holding some brackets to a set of universal sliders, just look at the underside of your stock seats and see how easy it is to pull them apart or change brackets (they are similar in build), its not easy at all. For the money just buy a set of STI seats or an aftermarket seat w/brackets and be done with it.
-Jim
ps: I'm not trying to be an ass but in the long run you'll be happier going with a seat/aftermarket seat with brackets designed for a Subaru. Plus I had a friend that totally destroyed a set of seats by thinking he could adapt stock brackets to them.
-Jim
ps: I'm not trying to be an ass but in the long run you'll be happier going with a seat/aftermarket seat with brackets designed for a Subaru. Plus I had a friend that totally destroyed a set of seats by thinking he could adapt stock brackets to them.
| Grintch | 10-18-2004 07:14 PM |
Looking at the seat in my livingroom (EVO OEM Recaro) it looks as if you can strip off the EVO bracket & sliders leaving 4 bolt holes spaced 16" W x 12" L. Is this not the standard aftermarket bolt pattern?
I was just about to order standard Recaro sliders & brackets until noticing that the EVO sliders look very close to the few internet posted pictures of the aftermarket sliders. Thus the question is:
1 - does the base seat use the standard aftermarket Recaro mounting pattern?
2 - are new standard Recaro aftermarket sliders AND Subrau brackets needed or are the EVO sliders the same thus only requiring the Subaru specific brackets?
Any help from anyone who has tried it would be appreciated.
I was just about to order standard Recaro sliders & brackets until noticing that the EVO sliders look very close to the few internet posted pictures of the aftermarket sliders. Thus the question is:
1 - does the base seat use the standard aftermarket Recaro mounting pattern?
2 - are new standard Recaro aftermarket sliders AND Subrau brackets needed or are the EVO sliders the same thus only requiring the Subaru specific brackets?
Any help from anyone who has tried it would be appreciated.
| STi Boy | 10-18-2004 08:31 PM |
interested if it will bolt on without other modifications...i love the evo seats...but i dont really like the evo...lol
| [email�protected] | 10-18-2004 08:40 PM |
from what i hear "bigger people" seem to like the evo 8 seats compared to the sti ones because they are a bit wider. that might make for some issues
| JIN | 10-18-2004 09:20 PM |
No way man ... I have seen and sat in both of them countless countless times. The Evo 8 seats are definitely a tighter fit than the USDM STI ones ... the USDM STI ones are so wide it no longer looks like sports seats no more.
Jin
Jin
| Grintch | 10-19-2004 01:22 PM |
The bolsters on the EVO seats seem to have more give in them than the STi seats. Thus they seem to tightly wrap drivers of various sizes very well, while the STi seats either fit you or they don't.
Note most car reviews rave on the EVO's seats, while the STi's seats are sometime liked but often not.
Note most car reviews rave on the EVO's seats, while the STi's seats are sometime liked but often not.
| projectrally | 10-20-2004 12:50 AM |
agreed. I'd take Evo seats over STi seats any day of the week. It's too bad, too, cause the STi seats are attractive. Doesn't chage the fact that for most of us they suck.
| sanremors | 10-20-2004 02:50 PM |
Those seats are the only thing wrong w/ the EVO
| garie | 10-20-2004 07:22 PM |
[QUOTE=sanremors]Those seats are the only thing wrong w/ the EVO[/QUOTE]
i actually thought the recaro seats in the evo were super nice and supportive.
i actually thought the recaro seats in the evo were super nice and supportive.
| Panic | 10-20-2004 08:32 PM |
The evo 8 seats are far better than anything that is offered by subaru on this side of the pacific. The v8 Sti seats are big enough to swim in, while the evo recaros hug and support you.
| XtianLA | 10-21-2004 02:20 PM |
Why doesn't someone contact Recaro and find out what would be required to migrate the seats into a Subaru if you're that interested?
| cnk | 10-21-2004 02:36 PM |
The EVO seats are just Recaro Sport seats with a special upholstery. Just like with any other Recaro seat, you can install them with the proper bracket/slider. I just put in Recaro Speed seats and I find them to be even more supportive then the Sport/Evo seats. They're definitely not meant for anyone big though.
Calvin
Calvin
| Grintch | 10-21-2004 02:44 PM |
Well, they don't have the thigh rest extension of the aftermarket Sport seats but otherwise they appear identical (though I heard a rumor that the OEM version tended to run a little bigger than the aftermarket version).
I guess I'll just call up Speedware motorsport & verify the mounting pattern is unchanged.
I guess I'll just call up Speedware motorsport & verify the mounting pattern is unchanged.
| WRX Potential | 10-21-2004 09:30 PM |
what about the side airbag connectors? i thought there were airbags in those seats and you wanna make sure those connectors are compatible...
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| jikhead | 10-22-2004 05:50 PM |
The SRS airbags have been the only thing holding me back...safety vs. comfort. Although odds of serious accident are slimn anything could happen...look at this guys car and you'll be amazed he walked away.
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| 03boxer4 | 10-22-2004 06:18 PM |
i put a evo shiftknob in my wrx... lol... looks damn good.. just a tid bit of evo to wrx info.
| dubba you are ex | 10-22-2004 10:05 PM |
where da pics at
| 03boxer4 | 10-23-2004 01:19 AM |
[QUOTE=dubba you are ex]where da pics at[/QUOTE]
my 03 with an EVO VIII shift knob, nice clean look, and very comfortable.
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/218000-218999/218485_83.jpg[/IMG]
my 03 with an EVO VIII shift knob, nice clean look, and very comfortable.
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/218000-218999/218485_83.jpg[/IMG]
| 5spdfrk | 10-24-2004 10:44 PM |
Is that a direct fit?
| Handsdown | 10-27-2004 12:41 AM |
shift knob looks high up...
| IronChefWRX | 10-27-2004 05:33 PM |
You can't be more wrong. I spoke to the someone at recaro to find a definite answer for this a while ago. He said any so call OEM recaro seats are not exactly the the same as their aftermarket seats. And this makes sense...why would you need to get aftmkt if it's transferrable.
To answer the question will it fit? NO, you can't get a aftermkt bracket to fit a evo seat on a subaru. WHY?
The guy I spoke to said. the back rest is Recaro but the base itself is the same as the regular Lancer.
[QUOTE=cnk]The EVO seats are just Recaro Sport seats with a special upholstery. Just like with any other Recaro seat, you can install them with the proper bracket/slider. I just put in Recaro Speed seats and I find them to be even more supportive then the Sport/Evo seats. They're definitely not meant for anyone big though.
Calvin[/QUOTE]
To answer the question will it fit? NO, you can't get a aftermkt bracket to fit a evo seat on a subaru. WHY?
The guy I spoke to said. the back rest is Recaro but the base itself is the same as the regular Lancer.
[QUOTE=cnk]The EVO seats are just Recaro Sport seats with a special upholstery. Just like with any other Recaro seat, you can install them with the proper bracket/slider. I just put in Recaro Speed seats and I find them to be even more supportive then the Sport/Evo seats. They're definitely not meant for anyone big though.
Calvin[/QUOTE]
| cnk | 10-27-2004 10:18 PM |
[QUOTE=IronChefWRX]You can't be more wrong. I spoke to the someone at recaro to find a definite answer for this a while ago. He said any so call OEM recaro seats are not exactly the the same as their aftermarket seats. And this makes sense...why would you need to get aftmkt if it's transferrable.
To answer the question will it fit? NO, you can't get a aftermkt bracket to fit a evo seat on a subaru. WHY?
The guy I spoke to said. the back rest is Recaro but the base itself is the same as the regular Lancer.[/QUOTE]
If that's the case, then the Recaro Sport seats are better then the Evo seats. As for your argument about not getting a bracket to fit. . .and I'll quote you on this one. . ."you can't be more wrong". ;) Do you really think it's that difficult to get someone to fabricate brackets for the seats? That's the whole point of it being called aftermarket isn't it? :rolleyes:
Oh yes. . .another thing. . .do you really think that a guy from Recaro would tell you that the seats are the same? If that's the case, then. . .and I'll quote you again. . ."why would you need to get aftmkt if it's transferrable?". Did it ever cross your mind that "the guy from Recaro" told you they weren't the same because he wants you to buy the more expensive seat then to go get the Evo seats from someone else? That's like me saying. . .I spoke to SOA about painted sideskirts and they told me that they were different then the black stock ones that came on my car. :disco:
Calvin
To answer the question will it fit? NO, you can't get a aftermkt bracket to fit a evo seat on a subaru. WHY?
The guy I spoke to said. the back rest is Recaro but the base itself is the same as the regular Lancer.[/QUOTE]
If that's the case, then the Recaro Sport seats are better then the Evo seats. As for your argument about not getting a bracket to fit. . .and I'll quote you on this one. . ."you can't be more wrong". ;) Do you really think it's that difficult to get someone to fabricate brackets for the seats? That's the whole point of it being called aftermarket isn't it? :rolleyes:
Oh yes. . .another thing. . .do you really think that a guy from Recaro would tell you that the seats are the same? If that's the case, then. . .and I'll quote you again. . ."why would you need to get aftmkt if it's transferrable?". Did it ever cross your mind that "the guy from Recaro" told you they weren't the same because he wants you to buy the more expensive seat then to go get the Evo seats from someone else? That's like me saying. . .I spoke to SOA about painted sideskirts and they told me that they were different then the black stock ones that came on my car. :disco:
Calvin
| NopWRX | 10-27-2004 11:25 PM |
I wish WRXs/STis came with Recaros... would've made my back/underside a lot happier.
| IronChefWRX | 10-28-2004 05:50 PM |
ok I'm sharing my experience with it since I actually spoke to someone on this.
I've spoken to vendors like Wedge, recaro resellers and none of them have a concrete answer. They can make a bracket to fit to a wrx but the bracket has to mount to the base right??? WHICH base? recaro base? lancer base? if you don't know then cut the coy remarks. EVERYONE assumes -well it should right.
The problem is assuming, I'm not about to buy seats that's suppose to work when it will not. If you like to prove me wrong go ahead. Find one WRX with an evo seat using an recaro aftermarket bracket mounted on an OEM EVO recaro. I haven't come across one.
And let's cut the conspiracy theory on oh why would Recaro say I can transfer it so they can sell aftmkt for profit. I spoke to someone at their main office , not a sales guy not a vendor. My question wasn't silly as hey if I can steal an evo seat would it mount to my wrx.
I asked "If he know anything about the EVO oem seats and if they are the same. Since no one can tell me if a recaro bracket will mount to it. It would make sense since these are recaro seats and a bracket that fits the Recaro Sport should fit?" and the answer I got is what I said.
I don't have the time to research but I've seen a couple of EVO owners complaining about the base.. fabric ripping.. and it's not as comfortable. THat's just what I've seen in passing.
[QUOTE=cnk]If that's the case, then the Recaro Sport seats are better then the Evo seats. As for your argument about not getting a bracket to fit. . .and I'll quote you on this one. . ."you can't be more wrong". ;) Do you really think it's that difficult to get someone to fabricate brackets for the seats? That's the whole point of it being called aftermarket isn't it? :rolleyes:
Oh yes. . .another thing. . .do you really think that a guy from Recaro would tell you that the seats are the same? If that's the case, then. . .and I'll quote you again. . ."why would you need to get aftmkt if it's transferrable?". Did it ever cross your mind that "the guy from Recaro" told you they weren't the same because he wants you to buy the more expensive seat then to go get the Evo seats from someone else? That's like me saying. . .I spoke to SOA about painted sideskirts and they told me that they were different then the black stock ones that came on my car. :disco:
Calvin[/QUOTE]
I've spoken to vendors like Wedge, recaro resellers and none of them have a concrete answer. They can make a bracket to fit to a wrx but the bracket has to mount to the base right??? WHICH base? recaro base? lancer base? if you don't know then cut the coy remarks. EVERYONE assumes -well it should right.
The problem is assuming, I'm not about to buy seats that's suppose to work when it will not. If you like to prove me wrong go ahead. Find one WRX with an evo seat using an recaro aftermarket bracket mounted on an OEM EVO recaro. I haven't come across one.
And let's cut the conspiracy theory on oh why would Recaro say I can transfer it so they can sell aftmkt for profit. I spoke to someone at their main office , not a sales guy not a vendor. My question wasn't silly as hey if I can steal an evo seat would it mount to my wrx.
I asked "If he know anything about the EVO oem seats and if they are the same. Since no one can tell me if a recaro bracket will mount to it. It would make sense since these are recaro seats and a bracket that fits the Recaro Sport should fit?" and the answer I got is what I said.
I don't have the time to research but I've seen a couple of EVO owners complaining about the base.. fabric ripping.. and it's not as comfortable. THat's just what I've seen in passing.
[QUOTE=cnk]If that's the case, then the Recaro Sport seats are better then the Evo seats. As for your argument about not getting a bracket to fit. . .and I'll quote you on this one. . ."you can't be more wrong". ;) Do you really think it's that difficult to get someone to fabricate brackets for the seats? That's the whole point of it being called aftermarket isn't it? :rolleyes:
Oh yes. . .another thing. . .do you really think that a guy from Recaro would tell you that the seats are the same? If that's the case, then. . .and I'll quote you again. . ."why would you need to get aftmkt if it's transferrable?". Did it ever cross your mind that "the guy from Recaro" told you they weren't the same because he wants you to buy the more expensive seat then to go get the Evo seats from someone else? That's like me saying. . .I spoke to SOA about painted sideskirts and they told me that they were different then the black stock ones that came on my car. :disco:
Calvin[/QUOTE]
| cnk | 10-28-2004 08:19 PM |
Coy remarks? Just responding based on the attitude that you gave. Guess some people know how to dish it out, but can't take it in return. :rolleyes:
As for getting a bracket or base made, just go to a local speed shop and they can fabricate one for you. There's also no conspiracy theory involved. . .it's just common sense. If I'm in business to make money by selling seats. . then I'm going to discourage you from doing something that reduces my total profit earning potential. If you don't believe that's the case, then you're in for a rude awakening. I'm sure you believe everything the car salesman or GM tells you then. After all. . .he's the GM. . not a salesperson right? :alien:
As far as the whole question about mounting Evo seats in a WRX/STi. . .I wouldn't. . I'd just spend the money and get the Sports or Speeds. Oh wait. . .I did. :banana:
Calvin
As for getting a bracket or base made, just go to a local speed shop and they can fabricate one for you. There's also no conspiracy theory involved. . .it's just common sense. If I'm in business to make money by selling seats. . then I'm going to discourage you from doing something that reduces my total profit earning potential. If you don't believe that's the case, then you're in for a rude awakening. I'm sure you believe everything the car salesman or GM tells you then. After all. . .he's the GM. . not a salesperson right? :alien:
As far as the whole question about mounting Evo seats in a WRX/STi. . .I wouldn't. . I'd just spend the money and get the Sports or Speeds. Oh wait. . .I did. :banana:
Calvin
| IronChefWRX | 10-28-2004 11:26 PM |
[QUOTE=cnk] If I'm in business to make money by selling seats. . then I'm going to discourage you from doing something that reduces my total profit earning potential. [/QUOTE]
you think the business world work like that? who's in for a rude awakening? why would recaro bother to put their seats as OEM equipment? do they really need the marketing? if so Why not Sparco or Momo?
hmmm let's see
recaro put the exact same seats as their aftermkt= they eat the cost
Mitsu forks out the money and pay close to cost- mitsu eat the cost
OR
It's a hybrid seat that's the best of both world. Mitsu pays a marginal amount for the back and keep the cost of the car down. Maybe I'm wrong with this assessment but don't assume people are gullible are will buy into anything people say. If so 50% of the stuff on this forum is fluff.
as for fabrication. oh geez I suppose custom fabrication can be done but is it as simple as going down to your "local" shop and have them rig one up? how good is the quality and at what cost? that's not the original question anyway.
btw, I don't know what attitude you're referring to. my original remark as you can't be any more wrong is based on my own experience. I wasn't trying to be a smartass. and it seems all the other exchange went down hill.
if people will chill out on the internet... myself included.
this post is done
you think the business world work like that? who's in for a rude awakening? why would recaro bother to put their seats as OEM equipment? do they really need the marketing? if so Why not Sparco or Momo?
hmmm let's see
recaro put the exact same seats as their aftermkt= they eat the cost
Mitsu forks out the money and pay close to cost- mitsu eat the cost
OR
It's a hybrid seat that's the best of both world. Mitsu pays a marginal amount for the back and keep the cost of the car down. Maybe I'm wrong with this assessment but don't assume people are gullible are will buy into anything people say. If so 50% of the stuff on this forum is fluff.
as for fabrication. oh geez I suppose custom fabrication can be done but is it as simple as going down to your "local" shop and have them rig one up? how good is the quality and at what cost? that's not the original question anyway.
btw, I don't know what attitude you're referring to. my original remark as you can't be any more wrong is based on my own experience. I wasn't trying to be a smartass. and it seems all the other exchange went down hill.
if people will chill out on the internet... myself included.
this post is done
| cnk | 10-28-2004 11:44 PM |
[QUOTE=IronChefWRX]
this post is done[/QUOTE]
Is that from your professional experience as a chef? ;)
As I stated above, you seemed to come off with an attitude in your first post. This is the internet and I can't tell how you "meant to say things", but that's the way it was interpreted.
As for the business world. . .I've been in the business world for over 10 years now. I speak from personal experience. Why do you think the first thing they teach you in business school is "caveat emptor". . .buyer beware?
In terms of fabrication. . .it was a suggestion. It's an ends to a means and cost was not brought up as a consideration from the original poster. If you really wanted to. . I'm sure you could take the existing Recaro sliders and drill the correct holes that you needed. Would it work. . yes. . would it be safe. . probably not.
I'd say this thread is now "well done". . but how would I know. . I'm not an IronChef. ;) :D
Calvin
this post is done[/QUOTE]
Is that from your professional experience as a chef? ;)
As I stated above, you seemed to come off with an attitude in your first post. This is the internet and I can't tell how you "meant to say things", but that's the way it was interpreted.
As for the business world. . .I've been in the business world for over 10 years now. I speak from personal experience. Why do you think the first thing they teach you in business school is "caveat emptor". . .buyer beware?
In terms of fabrication. . .it was a suggestion. It's an ends to a means and cost was not brought up as a consideration from the original poster. If you really wanted to. . I'm sure you could take the existing Recaro sliders and drill the correct holes that you needed. Would it work. . yes. . would it be safe. . probably not.
I'd say this thread is now "well done". . but how would I know. . I'm not an IronChef. ;) :D
Calvin
| EAuto | 10-29-2004 12:27 PM |
Here is the answer.
Yes, you can put the EVO8 Recaro to WRX or STI. All you needed is just a seat base to mount the Recaro. The swap is very simple. Take off the seat bracket from the Recaro by unscrew 4 bolts and leave the sliders on and you can bolt on the Recaro to the Sparco seat base. We done these swap in 1 hour.
William
[url]www.e-autosports.com[/url]
Yes, you can put the EVO8 Recaro to WRX or STI. All you needed is just a seat base to mount the Recaro. The swap is very simple. Take off the seat bracket from the Recaro by unscrew 4 bolts and leave the sliders on and you can bolt on the Recaro to the Sparco seat base. We done these swap in 1 hour.
William
[url]www.e-autosports.com[/url]
| Silverevo8owner | 10-29-2004 05:50 PM |
Just to confirm, the EVO 8 seat is indeed Recaro, all of it is actually. The base couldn't be farther from the regular lancer seat. It actually has bolsters and it's engineered to fit with the backrest also made by Recaro. It is a completely different seat from that of the Lancer and is entirely a Recaro seat, backrest and base both.
I'm sure all it is, is bracket work to make it mount in a WRX or STi. It can be done.
I'm sure all it is, is bracket work to make it mount in a WRX or STi. It can be done.
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