| WanganRunner | 04-15-2004 12:01 AM |
Black Intercooler?
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I've seen a number of pictures here and there with people who've (painted?) their stock WRX intercoolers black. Are they using paint, or is it something else? Has anyone here done this, and if so, can you post how you went about it?
Thanks.
Thanks.
| b_tapper | 04-15-2004 12:05 AM |
some companies sell black ones
but you could just spray paint yours black
but you could just spray paint yours black
| WanganRunner | 04-15-2004 12:29 AM |
There's no risk of damage to the intercooler from spraying it?
I don't really know why there would be, but I suppose I'm just paranoid of paint getting in places where paint shouldn't be. I guess it really is just a giant heatsink...
I don't really know why there would be, but I suppose I'm just paranoid of paint getting in places where paint shouldn't be. I guess it really is just a giant heatsink...
| b_tapper | 04-15-2004 12:36 AM |
yeah i think all they do is paint the aluminum ones
| DanZ | 04-15-2004 01:23 AM |
only thing is I think black will get retain more heat from the sun than silver. but it's probably not much of a difference, I'm not sure.?
-Dan
-Dan
| mrazntre | 04-15-2004 02:10 AM |
....but when you're driving 60mph down the freeway with cool air rushing into the fins, I don't think it would matter.
it'd be ultra-minimal heat difference IMO.
it'd be ultra-minimal heat difference IMO.
| Kwyjibo | 04-15-2004 02:31 AM |
I'm pretty sure you need to use a specific paint....call a radiator place and find out what they use to paint radiators....
| wgknestrick | 04-15-2004 01:01 PM |
I use the thinnest, flat, black paint you can find. Flat paint is much, much thinner than gloss. For my application, I just used grill (BBQ) paint. It works great, holds up, is thin, and transfers quite a bit of heat. Remember that almost all of the heat transfer happens inside of the intercooler so just try to paint the front. If my intercooler was smaller, I wouldn't have painted it (due to looks and function), but having a full silver spot on the front of the car looks like hell and not like a FMIC (IMO) ..so I painted it. Car still has that aggressive FMIC look though.
A pic for ya
[IMG]http://users.rcn.com/wgknestrick/STI%20001.jpg[/IMG]
A pic for ya
[IMG]http://users.rcn.com/wgknestrick/STI%20001.jpg[/IMG]
| JIN | 04-15-2004 01:02 PM |
Wow, that looks good man. Great job! I noticed you did a really good job with the cutting of your bumper too.
Jin
Jin
| JalopySiR | 04-15-2004 05:29 PM |
FYI, if you're doing it only for color, the paint will chip over time. It does not affect cooling, and there is also the pantyhose method.
| WanganRunner | 04-15-2004 07:11 PM |
Pantyhose method?
| JalopySiR | 04-15-2004 09:27 PM |
Black pantyhose over the intercooler. Removable, replaceable, matte finish... easy...cheap... try it...
| jsavage | 04-15-2004 10:09 PM |
spray painting would for sure decrease the efficiency of your intercooler. The heat transfer rate of aluminum is huge, while painted aluminium is so much less. It would be a big mistake to paint. Annodizing is probably your only option, but black is tough
| imprezive one | 04-15-2004 11:39 PM |
I had my intercooler core coated by swaintech with a special coating they have designed for applications like this. It's called "black body emitter" and is actually supposed to increase the cooling efficiency of the core. Go to [url]www.swaintech.com[/url] and write them an email about it. They were very helpful to me and total cost ended up being around $135 for a blitz core.
Do not paint your intercooler. The paint acts as insulation and part of the way an intercooler removes heat is through convection - meaning heat transfer by the circulation of currents from one area to another. If you have paint insulating your core it's not only going to keep heat from radiating out of the aluminum, it's also going to keep lower temperature ambient air from picking that heat up and removing it. Swaintech does coatings for nasa, so they're serious people. Their work is top notch and the coating is pretty durable. I have powdercoated lower piping and compared to the core the piping looks horrible, all chipped up. The core still looks perfect after a few thousand miles of hard winter driving.
Do not paint your intercooler. The paint acts as insulation and part of the way an intercooler removes heat is through convection - meaning heat transfer by the circulation of currents from one area to another. If you have paint insulating your core it's not only going to keep heat from radiating out of the aluminum, it's also going to keep lower temperature ambient air from picking that heat up and removing it. Swaintech does coatings for nasa, so they're serious people. Their work is top notch and the coating is pretty durable. I have powdercoated lower piping and compared to the core the piping looks horrible, all chipped up. The core still looks perfect after a few thousand miles of hard winter driving.
| wgknestrick | 04-16-2004 09:02 AM |
Here we go again. The heat transfer takes place not on the surface, but within the intercooler. There is virtually zero air flow over the front surfaces of an intercooler hence almost zero heat transfer to convection. To remove heat through convection, you MUST have some sort of air flow. Oh no, my intercooler is ruined now that I painted it:rolleyes:
So tell me again how painting the front surface of an intercooler hurts performance:confused:
So tell me again how painting the front surface of an intercooler hurts performance:confused:
| JIN | 04-16-2004 10:25 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JalopySiR[/i]
[B] Black pantyhose over the intercooler. Removable, replaceable, matte finish... easy...cheap... try it... [/B][/QUOTE]
Cool idea! I think I will start trying that with everything I can find too, to see if it works too!
Jin
[B] Black pantyhose over the intercooler. Removable, replaceable, matte finish... easy...cheap... try it... [/B][/QUOTE]
Cool idea! I think I will start trying that with everything I can find too, to see if it works too!
Jin
| DanZ | 04-16-2004 10:48 AM |
everything? :lol:
| imprezive one | 04-16-2004 11:06 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by wgknestrick [/i]
[B]Here we go again. The heat transfer takes place not on the surface, but within the intercooler. There is virtually zero air flow over the front surfaces of an intercooler hence almost zero heat transfer to convection. To remove heat through convection, you MUST have some sort of air flow. Oh no, my intercooler is ruined now that I painted it:rolleyes:
So tell me again how painting the front surface of an intercooler hurts performance:confused: [/B][/QUOTE]
Did I read that correctly? You're saying an intercooler doesn't depend on air flow over it to cool the air that's passing through it at all? are you serious? Are you trying to tell me that when you're driving around that there's "virtually zero air flow" over the intercooler core? :confused: Why don't you just put your intercooler in your trunk and see how well it works or if you have a top mount, take your hood scoop off and see if it affects anything because what does air flow matter in the first place according to your argument.
[url]http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/turbo/intercooler.html[/url]
[url]http://www.turbonation.com/intrcool.htm[/url]
Convection by definition happens on the surface. The reason you have very thin ripple shaped fins between the tubes in your intercooler is because it's easier for a thinner piece of aluminum with a high surface to volume ratio to conduct heat and lose it to convection than a thicker piece with a lower surface to volume ratio. If you put a layer of black paint over those fins, which are designed to be thin and unobstructed you think it's not gonna do anything? If your argument is you're just painting the very front surface of the intercooler and nothing inside of it... then it must have been a PITA and almost impossible to not get any overspray into those nooks and crannies. Did you tape them all off one by one from the inside or something? Unless you're a magician then of course a lot of the inside part of the fins are going to get coated even if you're just trying to paint the very front surface, it's spray paint for god's sake, that's what its meant to do, get into every space it can be sprayed into :rolleyes:. I'm not saying your intercooler is ruined now, I never said anything close to that, but somebody wanted to know if it would hurt performance and this is my response.
I don't need to tell you again how painting your intercooler will hurt performance, if your reasoning on how an intercooler works is off to begin with then that's your problem not mine.
[B]Here we go again. The heat transfer takes place not on the surface, but within the intercooler. There is virtually zero air flow over the front surfaces of an intercooler hence almost zero heat transfer to convection. To remove heat through convection, you MUST have some sort of air flow. Oh no, my intercooler is ruined now that I painted it:rolleyes:
So tell me again how painting the front surface of an intercooler hurts performance:confused: [/B][/QUOTE]
Did I read that correctly? You're saying an intercooler doesn't depend on air flow over it to cool the air that's passing through it at all? are you serious? Are you trying to tell me that when you're driving around that there's "virtually zero air flow" over the intercooler core? :confused: Why don't you just put your intercooler in your trunk and see how well it works or if you have a top mount, take your hood scoop off and see if it affects anything because what does air flow matter in the first place according to your argument.
[url]http://www.gnttype.org/techarea/turbo/intercooler.html[/url]
[url]http://www.turbonation.com/intrcool.htm[/url]
Convection by definition happens on the surface. The reason you have very thin ripple shaped fins between the tubes in your intercooler is because it's easier for a thinner piece of aluminum with a high surface to volume ratio to conduct heat and lose it to convection than a thicker piece with a lower surface to volume ratio. If you put a layer of black paint over those fins, which are designed to be thin and unobstructed you think it's not gonna do anything? If your argument is you're just painting the very front surface of the intercooler and nothing inside of it... then it must have been a PITA and almost impossible to not get any overspray into those nooks and crannies. Did you tape them all off one by one from the inside or something? Unless you're a magician then of course a lot of the inside part of the fins are going to get coated even if you're just trying to paint the very front surface, it's spray paint for god's sake, that's what its meant to do, get into every space it can be sprayed into :rolleyes:. I'm not saying your intercooler is ruined now, I never said anything close to that, but somebody wanted to know if it would hurt performance and this is my response.
I don't need to tell you again how painting your intercooler will hurt performance, if your reasoning on how an intercooler works is off to begin with then that's your problem not mine.
| cnk | 04-16-2004 11:19 AM |
I think what he's referring to is that if you paint the IC, then the paint will mostly stick on the outside and not on the interior fins. That is where the cooling takes place if I'm reading his statement correctly. Irregardless though, there is still some degradation in cooling performance since all parts of the IC will heat up and the more surface area the better for cooling.
Calvin
Calvin
| jsavage | 04-16-2004 01:26 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by wgknestrick [/i]
[B]Here we go again. The heat transfer takes place not on the surface, but within the intercooler. There is virtually zero air flow over the front surfaces of an intercooler hence almost zero heat transfer to convection. To remove heat through convection, you MUST have some sort of air flow. Oh no, my intercooler is ruined now that I painted it:rolleyes:
So tell me again how painting the front surface of an intercooler hurts performance:confused: [/B][/QUOTE]
Right...and what are the thousands of fins doing on the exterior of your intercooler?
Scooby Specialist.....doubtful
[B]Here we go again. The heat transfer takes place not on the surface, but within the intercooler. There is virtually zero air flow over the front surfaces of an intercooler hence almost zero heat transfer to convection. To remove heat through convection, you MUST have some sort of air flow. Oh no, my intercooler is ruined now that I painted it:rolleyes:
So tell me again how painting the front surface of an intercooler hurts performance:confused: [/B][/QUOTE]
Right...and what are the thousands of fins doing on the exterior of your intercooler?
Scooby Specialist.....doubtful
| jsavage | 04-16-2004 01:28 PM |
and yes. you did ruin your intercooler. looks sweet though
:devil:
:devil:
| jsavage | 04-16-2004 01:52 PM |
I guess I shouldn't be such a dick and just explain...
While much heat transfer is taking place within your intercooler, lots of that heat is being removed through convection from the surface of your intercooler. The reason they use many very thin fins is to increase the surface area dramatically, increasing convection, and the efficiency of the heat transfer taking place within your intercooler. If this surface convection was not important, they wouldn't have these stupid fins that get bent so easily, and intercoolers would be much more durable and much cheaper. Painting your fins is like putting on a jacket, it won't let the heat out and thus decreases the efficiency of heat transfer taking place within your intercooler.
Air doesn't need to be moving over your intercooler to loose heat to convection. The fluid can be stationary. Think of putting a hot object in a stationary fluid, it still will loose heat very quickly. This is called natural convection. However, the faster a fluid is moving over a hot surface the more amount of heat transfer takes place through convection. This is why we have big ass hood scoops and why a front mount intercooler is a little more efficient of a design.
The only ways to increase convection is to either increase the surface area of the intercooler or increase the velocity of the airflow around the intercooler. Every extra BTU you can extract through convection is a BTU taken from the fluid within your intercooler, and obviously the cooler the fluid the better.
While much heat transfer is taking place within your intercooler, lots of that heat is being removed through convection from the surface of your intercooler. The reason they use many very thin fins is to increase the surface area dramatically, increasing convection, and the efficiency of the heat transfer taking place within your intercooler. If this surface convection was not important, they wouldn't have these stupid fins that get bent so easily, and intercoolers would be much more durable and much cheaper. Painting your fins is like putting on a jacket, it won't let the heat out and thus decreases the efficiency of heat transfer taking place within your intercooler.
Air doesn't need to be moving over your intercooler to loose heat to convection. The fluid can be stationary. Think of putting a hot object in a stationary fluid, it still will loose heat very quickly. This is called natural convection. However, the faster a fluid is moving over a hot surface the more amount of heat transfer takes place through convection. This is why we have big ass hood scoops and why a front mount intercooler is a little more efficient of a design.
The only ways to increase convection is to either increase the surface area of the intercooler or increase the velocity of the airflow around the intercooler. Every extra BTU you can extract through convection is a BTU taken from the fluid within your intercooler, and obviously the cooler the fluid the better.
| wgknestrick | 04-16-2004 02:07 PM |
[QUOTE]Right...and what are the thousands of fins doing on the exterior of your intercooler? [/QUOTE]
My intercooler has zero fins on the exterior. Those "fins" actually run the entire thickness of the intercooler (captian obvious). What you "see" are only the leading edges of the "fins"
Why does intercooler thickness matter? Wait, it doesn't according to your statements. All heat transfer occurs only on the front face of the intercooler:rolleyes: (if you can't see it, must not happen..sarcasm) I've painted roughly 2% of the active surfaces of my intercooler.
Since almost every surface I painted has very little flow over it, the effect is very minimal to say the least. Heat transfer is dependent on the flow, area, temperature delta, and conduction coef.
Cross section of bar and plate IC:
My diagram got screwed up due to auto space delete
-------------------- <-----(Air) Tair
/ _____________
(Air)--- |_____________<-----(Plate) Tplate
\----------------------<------(Air) Tair
forced convection heat transfer is occuring on the inner surface (surfaces you can't see) where there is flow across the surface of the plates. At the leading edge surface of the plate, the flow reaches zero because the air is not moving locally at that point (the surface that is painted). This is the same concept as to why jets have the flow needles on their noses. These needles minimize the dead flow(causes drag) across the plane.
Next time check your facts. Drive your "L" around and comment on how much you've done to it to all the little kiddies. Tell them how you worked so hard to run 17s in the .25mile. Thanks for spreading your knowledge to me.
What's your engine bay look like????
Mine looks like this, and I haven't blown my 2.5L yet ;) so I must know something. 280WHP @10psi untuned shove that up your specialist ass.
[IMG]http://users.rcn.com/wgknestrick/Picture%20013.jpg[/IMG]
My diagram was messed up:confused:
Look at the pic of my intercooler, you can see how little, I actually painted. It's not like I dipped my IC in paint. I've wasted enough of my time here.
My intercooler has zero fins on the exterior. Those "fins" actually run the entire thickness of the intercooler (captian obvious). What you "see" are only the leading edges of the "fins"
Why does intercooler thickness matter? Wait, it doesn't according to your statements. All heat transfer occurs only on the front face of the intercooler:rolleyes: (if you can't see it, must not happen..sarcasm) I've painted roughly 2% of the active surfaces of my intercooler.
Since almost every surface I painted has very little flow over it, the effect is very minimal to say the least. Heat transfer is dependent on the flow, area, temperature delta, and conduction coef.
Cross section of bar and plate IC:
My diagram got screwed up due to auto space delete
-------------------- <-----(Air) Tair
/ _____________
(Air)--- |_____________<-----(Plate) Tplate
\----------------------<------(Air) Tair
forced convection heat transfer is occuring on the inner surface (surfaces you can't see) where there is flow across the surface of the plates. At the leading edge surface of the plate, the flow reaches zero because the air is not moving locally at that point (the surface that is painted). This is the same concept as to why jets have the flow needles on their noses. These needles minimize the dead flow(causes drag) across the plane.
Next time check your facts. Drive your "L" around and comment on how much you've done to it to all the little kiddies. Tell them how you worked so hard to run 17s in the .25mile. Thanks for spreading your knowledge to me.
What's your engine bay look like????
Mine looks like this, and I haven't blown my 2.5L yet ;) so I must know something. 280WHP @10psi untuned shove that up your specialist ass.
[IMG]http://users.rcn.com/wgknestrick/Picture%20013.jpg[/IMG]
My diagram was messed up:confused:
Look at the pic of my intercooler, you can see how little, I actually painted. It's not like I dipped my IC in paint. I've wasted enough of my time here.
| imprezive one | 04-16-2004 03:55 PM |
Woah dude, no need to diss on a guy's L just cause you're driving an STI or because you have a differing opinion on an entirely different matter. Don't take this to personal places man, it's just a discussion. If you get offended because our view on the matter differs from yours then act like an adult and discuss it, you don't have to start name-calling or start posting numbers that supposedly "prove" that you know more... you can take your childish elitist attitude and shove IT... It's the internet, grow up.
| jsavage | 04-16-2004 04:26 PM |
:lol:
Larger intercooler thickness means larger volume of fluid...larger radiator means better cool...I dunno, maybe more fluid means more cooling???
Go spend 6 months studying heat transfer and you can answer all these questions yourself.
The fins run all the way through, but AROUND the main chamber. The fins make up the SURFACE of the chamber. I understand how this is hard to admitt, but remember I am not the one who messed up your intercooler.
Hey, if I were you, I'd be bitter too hearing the truth after going gun ho with a black can of paint.
Larger intercooler thickness means larger volume of fluid...larger radiator means better cool...I dunno, maybe more fluid means more cooling???
Go spend 6 months studying heat transfer and you can answer all these questions yourself.
The fins run all the way through, but AROUND the main chamber. The fins make up the SURFACE of the chamber. I understand how this is hard to admitt, but remember I am not the one who messed up your intercooler.
Hey, if I were you, I'd be bitter too hearing the truth after going gun ho with a black can of paint.
| jsavage | 04-16-2004 04:32 PM |
oh...and you happened to paint the most active surface of any intercooler.
| Samirr76 | 04-16-2004 05:53 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by jsavage [/i]
[B]oh...and you happened to paint the most active surface of any intercooler. [/B][/QUOTE]
I'm with jsavage on this issue. You screwed up your intercooler dude. Anything you apply to the surface of the intercooler will insulate it and reduce the amount of heat transfer possible.
Just cuz one guy has an L and the other has a STi doesnt make the STi owner exempt from idiot status. :o
[B]oh...and you happened to paint the most active surface of any intercooler. [/B][/QUOTE]
I'm with jsavage on this issue. You screwed up your intercooler dude. Anything you apply to the surface of the intercooler will insulate it and reduce the amount of heat transfer possible.
Just cuz one guy has an L and the other has a STi doesnt make the STi owner exempt from idiot status. :o
| IronMonkeyL255 | 04-16-2004 07:50 PM |
I can see where he's coming from with that, but I wouldn't paint my i/c (once I get it plumbed in.....) just on general principles.
I don't think he screwed up his i/c, but he did cut down its efficiency.
I don't think he screwed up his i/c, but he did cut down its efficiency.
| JalopySiR | 04-16-2004 09:00 PM |
Not going to get into an argument here, but it's been proven time and time again that painting your intercooler black will not adversely affect it's cooling properties. Log on to Honda-Tech.com and search. My brother and I both owned turbocharged Hondas with painted FMICs, my brother's was a brand new Trust core. In the winter his charge air was actually too cold, and he got detonation. I HATE bling, and I really don't need stunnaz coming up to me and asking me all sorts of dumb questions, or planning to steal my car.
EDIT: what color is your radiator?
EDIT: what color is your radiator?
| drnick | 04-16-2004 09:39 PM |
As long as you keep your boost fluid levels high enough the I/C won't be a problem...hell use enough and you may not even need it at all.
| jsavage | 04-16-2004 10:47 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JalopySiR [/i]
[B]
In the winter his charge air was actually too cold, and he got detonation.
[/B][/QUOTE]
you're right. if your intercooler is too big and/or it is really cold out and your getting detonation then a little less efficiency may be a good thing. But this is hardly the norm.
[B]
In the winter his charge air was actually too cold, and he got detonation.
[/B][/QUOTE]
you're right. if your intercooler is too big and/or it is really cold out and your getting detonation then a little less efficiency may be a good thing. But this is hardly the norm.
| mrazntre | 04-17-2004 12:27 AM |
minimal to negligible adverse affects in my opinion, still.
| Samirr76 | 04-17-2004 10:31 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by mrazntre [/i]
[B]minimal to negligible adverse affects in my opinion, still. [/B][/QUOTE]
yeah but why intentionally cause any negative effect at all?? If you want it to be more inconspicuous it would make more sense to use a mesh grill in front of it or something to that effect.
my logic just tells me painting is a BAD idea.
[B]minimal to negligible adverse affects in my opinion, still. [/B][/QUOTE]
yeah but why intentionally cause any negative effect at all?? If you want it to be more inconspicuous it would make more sense to use a mesh grill in front of it or something to that effect.
my logic just tells me painting is a BAD idea.
| sidewayz | 04-17-2004 10:49 AM |
so I guess any heatsink (which basically an intercooler is) that is painted is worthless?
yeah ok..
your black radiator is worthless too then, an an oilcooler, and trans fluid cooler, and aftermarket diff covers with heatsinks that are black..
you guys argue about the most retarded crap on here.I swear some of you people should be driving BMW's the way you carry on.
yeah ok..
your black radiator is worthless too then, an an oilcooler, and trans fluid cooler, and aftermarket diff covers with heatsinks that are black..
you guys argue about the most retarded crap on here.I swear some of you people should be driving BMW's the way you carry on.
| mrazntre | 04-17-2004 10:57 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Samirr76 [/i]
[B]yeah but why intentionally cause any negative effect at all?? If you want it to be more inconspicuous it would make more sense to use a mesh grill in front of it or something to that effect.
my logic just tells me painting is a BAD idea. [/B][/QUOTE]
well... factory Toyota TMIC's are painted black. So mebbe Toyota screwed up all their cars? My cousin was running a black painted Greddy FMIC in his supra and it ran with no problems.
and like someone posted earlier, radiators and ac condensors are painted black.
I think the real problem would be paint gunking and blocking the airway passages between the fins. That would suck. Otherwise, I really think the question should then be, "what kind of paint do I use to paint my I/C" rather than should I paint my I/C.
but that's just me. :cool:
[B]yeah but why intentionally cause any negative effect at all?? If you want it to be more inconspicuous it would make more sense to use a mesh grill in front of it or something to that effect.
my logic just tells me painting is a BAD idea. [/B][/QUOTE]
well... factory Toyota TMIC's are painted black. So mebbe Toyota screwed up all their cars? My cousin was running a black painted Greddy FMIC in his supra and it ran with no problems.
and like someone posted earlier, radiators and ac condensors are painted black.
I think the real problem would be paint gunking and blocking the airway passages between the fins. That would suck. Otherwise, I really think the question should then be, "what kind of paint do I use to paint my I/C" rather than should I paint my I/C.
but that's just me. :cool:
| JalopySiR | 04-17-2004 11:26 AM |
Like I've stated, it's proven FACT that black won't hurt, sometimes it's even beneficial. If you don't want to look it up, just put pantyhose over it. If you haven't done the research, or personally done it, stop posting.
| sidewayz | 04-17-2004 12:04 PM |
did anyone realize that some of the older GC8 intercoolers are black? and the new turbo foresters.
| googe | 04-17-2004 12:36 PM |
hes not talking about the fact that its black that is a potential problem
its the fact it has a coating of paint on it
(not agreeing or disagreeing - i dont know which is right)
its the fact it has a coating of paint on it
(not agreeing or disagreeing - i dont know which is right)
| mrazntre | 04-17-2004 04:03 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by googe [/i]
[B]hes not talking about the fact that its black that is a potential problem
its the fact it has a coating of paint on it
(not agreeing or disagreeing - i dont know which is right) [/B][/QUOTE]
I think he's pointing out the fact that those IC's are black, which means it has a coating of paint (or some sort of coating to say the least).
[B]hes not talking about the fact that its black that is a potential problem
its the fact it has a coating of paint on it
(not agreeing or disagreeing - i dont know which is right) [/B][/QUOTE]
I think he's pointing out the fact that those IC's are black, which means it has a coating of paint (or some sort of coating to say the least).
| googe | 04-17-2004 04:10 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by mrazntre [/i]
[B]I think he's pointing out the fact that those IC's are black, which means it has a coating of paint (or some sort of coating to say the least). [/B][/QUOTE]
no, using conventional paint and having it anodized is quite different. im quite sure any solid black IC that is stock on a vehicle or shipped that way (APS) is not going to be painted
[B]I think he's pointing out the fact that those IC's are black, which means it has a coating of paint (or some sort of coating to say the least). [/B][/QUOTE]
no, using conventional paint and having it anodized is quite different. im quite sure any solid black IC that is stock on a vehicle or shipped that way (APS) is not going to be painted
| palotik | 04-17-2004 06:29 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by sidewayz[/i]
[B] so I guess any heatsink (which basically an intercooler is) that is painted is worthless?
yeah ok..
your black radiator is worthless too then, an an oilcooler, and trans fluid cooler, and aftermarket diff covers with heatsinks that are black..
you guys argue about the most retarded crap on here.I swear some of you people should be driving BMW's the way you carry on. [/B][/QUOTE]
hahahahahahahahahahahaha:lol:
[B] so I guess any heatsink (which basically an intercooler is) that is painted is worthless?
yeah ok..
your black radiator is worthless too then, an an oilcooler, and trans fluid cooler, and aftermarket diff covers with heatsinks that are black..
you guys argue about the most retarded crap on here.I swear some of you people should be driving BMW's the way you carry on. [/B][/QUOTE]
hahahahahahahahahahahaha:lol:
| mrazntre | 04-17-2004 06:31 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by googe [/i]
[B]no, using conventional paint and having it anodized is quite different. im quite sure any solid black IC that is stock on a vehicle or shipped that way (APS) is not going to be painted [/B][/QUOTE]
that's why i put the disclaimer in parentheses
[B]no, using conventional paint and having it anodized is quite different. im quite sure any solid black IC that is stock on a vehicle or shipped that way (APS) is not going to be painted [/B][/QUOTE]
that's why i put the disclaimer in parentheses
| jsavage | 04-17-2004 07:27 PM |
I love these "butt dyno" answers....keep em coming.
| WanganRunner | 04-23-2004 07:03 AM |
Ok, sorry for going back and dragging this thread up, but it seemed that some people other than me genuinely wanted to know the answer to the question. I seem to have got it.
This month's SCC, on page 102 at the bottom, mentions something called "Stealth Coat" by a company called Swain Technology. It INCREASES the thermal efficiency of intakes, intercoolers, and piping, and happens to be flat-black. Soon as I can figure out where to get it, I think I'm going to order some and try it out.
This month's SCC, on page 102 at the bottom, mentions something called "Stealth Coat" by a company called Swain Technology. It INCREASES the thermal efficiency of intakes, intercoolers, and piping, and happens to be flat-black. Soon as I can figure out where to get it, I think I'm going to order some and try it out.
| Samirr76 | 04-23-2004 07:43 AM |
That Krylon generic black spray paint is not the same as whatever that "Stealth Coat" stuff is.....but yeah you really didnt need to bring this thread back from the grave.
You're just begging for more flaming.
You're just begging for more flaming.
| imprezive one | 04-23-2004 11:40 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by imprezive one [/i]
[B]I had my intercooler core coated by swaintech with a special coating they have designed for applications like this. It's called "black body emitter" and is actually supposed to increase the cooling efficiency of the core. Go to [url]www.swaintech.com[/url] and write them an email about it. [/B][/QUOTE]
I already posted about swaintech on the first page.
[B]I had my intercooler core coated by swaintech with a special coating they have designed for applications like this. It's called "black body emitter" and is actually supposed to increase the cooling efficiency of the core. Go to [url]www.swaintech.com[/url] and write them an email about it. [/B][/QUOTE]
I already posted about swaintech on the first page.
| 03WRXMA | 04-23-2004 05:28 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by wgknestrick [/i]
[B]Drive your "L" around and comment on how much you've done to it to all the little kiddies. Tell them how you worked so hard to run 17s in the .25mile[/B][/QUOTE]
Who brought the cool kid? :confused:
[B]Drive your "L" around and comment on how much you've done to it to all the little kiddies. Tell them how you worked so hard to run 17s in the .25mile[/B][/QUOTE]
Who brought the cool kid? :confused:
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