| AndrewSS | 04-10-2006 01:41 PM |
*new autox video* Critque my driving: Gingerman incar + Autox event incar videos...
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*** check out my second video from last weekend, I actually took 1st in STU this run, I still was over driving the fronts especially in a few places... but anyway check it out and give me some feed back... btw the new wide angle is great! :D
[url]http://media.putfile.com/andrew-autox-april-30th[/url]
thanks!
First off, this is my second time at gingerman and the first time I was doing pretty bad. Thankfully I got some good pointers and I felt more confident this time around so I feel as though I did pretty decent. But far from great. Anyway take a look, I really hope to get some good feed back from you guys, so any constructive comments would be appreciated.
I took turn 10 a bit hot a few times... on the last lap of the video it will show you a little landscaping adventure... but anyway heres the gingerman video:
***PLEASE NO STREAMING, ONLY SAVE TARGET AS!***
[url]http://richard.safier.com/OVR/andrewsgingermanvideoApril06_0002.wmv[/url]
^(63mb and 11min long)
here is the autox video:
[url]http://media.putfile.com/andrewscottautoxapril06[/url]
Finally, a couple great pix from gingerman (thanks Nandan!)
[img]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/np2005sti/IMG_0816.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/np2005sti/IMG_0605.jpg[/img]
[url]http://media.putfile.com/andrew-autox-april-30th[/url]
thanks!
First off, this is my second time at gingerman and the first time I was doing pretty bad. Thankfully I got some good pointers and I felt more confident this time around so I feel as though I did pretty decent. But far from great. Anyway take a look, I really hope to get some good feed back from you guys, so any constructive comments would be appreciated.
I took turn 10 a bit hot a few times... on the last lap of the video it will show you a little landscaping adventure... but anyway heres the gingerman video:
***PLEASE NO STREAMING, ONLY SAVE TARGET AS!***
[url]http://richard.safier.com/OVR/andrewsgingermanvideoApril06_0002.wmv[/url]
^(63mb and 11min long)
here is the autox video:
[url]http://media.putfile.com/andrewscottautoxapril06[/url]
Finally, a couple great pix from gingerman (thanks Nandan!)
[img]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/np2005sti/IMG_0816.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/np2005sti/IMG_0605.jpg[/img]
| BlackSnake | 04-10-2006 02:14 PM |
Downloading now... Lets see if My car is in it :D
| tuskenraider | 04-10-2006 03:59 PM |
I'll offer a critque of the autox run:
Kinda hard to judge from the video what the correct line may be for certain corners but it looks like you either went too deep or too wide in a lot of the turns. You always seemed to be hugging the line of outside edge of cones. I would of drove in tighter to the inside cones that defined the turns.
Kinda hard to judge from the video what the correct line may be for certain corners but it looks like you either went too deep or too wide in a lot of the turns. You always seemed to be hugging the line of outside edge of cones. I would of drove in tighter to the inside cones that defined the turns.
| KC | 04-10-2006 04:32 PM |
Auto-x video... slower in, tighter to the cones, shuffle-steer less.
| WRX 2002 | 04-10-2006 04:39 PM |
What type of tires were you using on the track...?
| [email�protected] | 04-10-2006 05:24 PM |
Line through turns 2 and 7 were wrong ..... missed the apex on 2,7 & 8
| Calamity Jesus | 04-10-2006 05:25 PM |
Autox: Look ahead even further. Watch your head turn as you approach a turn.. sometimes you didn't turn it until after your hands had started cranking the wheel. Some corners, you were obvously looking through. If you can train yourself to look further ahead than you already are, then smooth lines will be much easier to find.
| PhilC | 04-10-2006 05:27 PM |
My thoughts on the autocross run:
KC's right the shuffle steering is not good, real easy to get crossed up and end up with your hands in a position where they aren't doing any good at all. Having driven that OVR course that same day my thoughts: First right hander you needed to give it up a lot more because that corner never did get cleaned up enough on Saturday that you could make it back for the slalom if you went in that fast, give it up early stay wide like you did on entry but nearly clip the second of the inside cones and the slalom became a single cone slalom that you could flat foot. Second right was too far off the start of the corner and too close on the exit IMO, I dropped time by running tight in and hard on the throttle out. Left hand box into the slalom I think you gave it up too much. That was one of the only sections of the course that was clean and you could push it there pretty well, you just had to make sure not to let the tail wag out too far and clip the exit cone. Final long right hander before the pivot finish you drove as two seperate elements, it wasn't if you dove into the inside at the start of the corner and turned it into a single increasing radius turn, plus diving inside hit the dip at corner entry where your tires were pointing straight but you miss the big pavement problem that you hit after you were turning (you still hit the problem but on the inside of the corner it was significantly reduced). Final corner I think you probably know that you were late on the brakes and too far off the pivot, but if you connected the two previous corners into a single element that corner became a lot easier to get into and through.
The Fort Wayne event I wasn't at so my comments would just mirror what KC and tusken said in that I think you would have been faster by giving it up more at corner entry and keeping it tight. For autocross I think that your video would offer better results if you panned slightly right and could pick up the right front fender as well as the left.
We'll be at most of the OVR events, feel free to come grab me and I'll offer on site critique, for whatever that is worth.
KC's right the shuffle steering is not good, real easy to get crossed up and end up with your hands in a position where they aren't doing any good at all. Having driven that OVR course that same day my thoughts: First right hander you needed to give it up a lot more because that corner never did get cleaned up enough on Saturday that you could make it back for the slalom if you went in that fast, give it up early stay wide like you did on entry but nearly clip the second of the inside cones and the slalom became a single cone slalom that you could flat foot. Second right was too far off the start of the corner and too close on the exit IMO, I dropped time by running tight in and hard on the throttle out. Left hand box into the slalom I think you gave it up too much. That was one of the only sections of the course that was clean and you could push it there pretty well, you just had to make sure not to let the tail wag out too far and clip the exit cone. Final long right hander before the pivot finish you drove as two seperate elements, it wasn't if you dove into the inside at the start of the corner and turned it into a single increasing radius turn, plus diving inside hit the dip at corner entry where your tires were pointing straight but you miss the big pavement problem that you hit after you were turning (you still hit the problem but on the inside of the corner it was significantly reduced). Final corner I think you probably know that you were late on the brakes and too far off the pivot, but if you connected the two previous corners into a single element that corner became a lot easier to get into and through.
The Fort Wayne event I wasn't at so my comments would just mirror what KC and tusken said in that I think you would have been faster by giving it up more at corner entry and keeping it tight. For autocross I think that your video would offer better results if you panned slightly right and could pick up the right front fender as well as the left.
We'll be at most of the OVR events, feel free to come grab me and I'll offer on site critique, for whatever that is worth.
| AndrewSS | 04-10-2006 05:49 PM |
[QUOTE=WRX 2002]What type of tires were you using on the track...?[/QUOTE]
I was on the yokohama advan A046, is the tire that comes stock on the Evo.
I was on the yokohama advan A046, is the tire that comes stock on the Evo.
| AndrewSS | 04-10-2006 05:57 PM |
[QUOTE=PhilC]My thoughts on the autocross run:
KC's right the shuffle steering is not good, real easy to get crossed up and end up with your hands in a position where they aren't doing any good at all. Having driven that OVR course that same day my thoughts: First right hander you needed to give it up a lot more because that corner never did get cleaned up enough on Saturday that you could make it back for the slalom if you went in that fast, give it up early stay wide like you did on entry but nearly clip the second of the inside cones and the slalom became a single cone slalom that you could flat foot. Second right was too far off the start of the corner and too close on the exit IMO, I dropped time by running tight in and hard on the throttle out. Left hand box into the slalom I think you gave it up too much. That was one of the only sections of the course that was clean and you could push it there pretty well, you just had to make sure not to let the tail wag out too far and clip the exit cone. Final long right hander before the pivot finish you drove as two seperate elements, it wasn't if you dove into the inside at the start of the corner and turned it into a single increasing radius turn, plus diving inside hit the dip at corner entry where your tires were pointing straight but you miss the big pavement problem that you hit after you were turning (you still hit the problem but on the inside of the corner it was significantly reduced). Final corner I think you probably know that you were late on the brakes and too far off the pivot, but if you connected the two previous corners into a single element that corner became a lot easier to get into and through.
The Fort Wayne event I wasn't at so my comments would just mirror what KC and tusken said in that I think you would have been faster by giving it up more at corner entry and keeping it tight. For autocross I think that your video would offer better results if you panned slightly right and could pick up the right front fender as well as the left.
We'll be at most of the OVR events, feel free to come grab me and I'll offer on site critique, for whatever that is worth.[/QUOTE]
Thanks a lot for your critque, just to mention, that was just one of the MANY runs I got that day and wasnt my best... I didnt get my best run that day on film. The main thing that I changed later on from that video you saw was, the right hand turn with the bump in it (after the 2nd slalom) I took in tighter (like one turn) and it really helped the time, I eventually got something like a low 40 second run if I remeber... it was a 40.1 or so. Anyway, are you going to be at the OVR school on the 29th, then the PE on the 30th. I wouldnt mind your input then.
Everyone else, thanks a ton for the comments. I really appreciate it. I agree with you all, I seem to turn in to fast and I dont look far enough ahead... I love getting these videos critiqued it helps a ton. Again, thanks!
:banana:
KC's right the shuffle steering is not good, real easy to get crossed up and end up with your hands in a position where they aren't doing any good at all. Having driven that OVR course that same day my thoughts: First right hander you needed to give it up a lot more because that corner never did get cleaned up enough on Saturday that you could make it back for the slalom if you went in that fast, give it up early stay wide like you did on entry but nearly clip the second of the inside cones and the slalom became a single cone slalom that you could flat foot. Second right was too far off the start of the corner and too close on the exit IMO, I dropped time by running tight in and hard on the throttle out. Left hand box into the slalom I think you gave it up too much. That was one of the only sections of the course that was clean and you could push it there pretty well, you just had to make sure not to let the tail wag out too far and clip the exit cone. Final long right hander before the pivot finish you drove as two seperate elements, it wasn't if you dove into the inside at the start of the corner and turned it into a single increasing radius turn, plus diving inside hit the dip at corner entry where your tires were pointing straight but you miss the big pavement problem that you hit after you were turning (you still hit the problem but on the inside of the corner it was significantly reduced). Final corner I think you probably know that you were late on the brakes and too far off the pivot, but if you connected the two previous corners into a single element that corner became a lot easier to get into and through.
The Fort Wayne event I wasn't at so my comments would just mirror what KC and tusken said in that I think you would have been faster by giving it up more at corner entry and keeping it tight. For autocross I think that your video would offer better results if you panned slightly right and could pick up the right front fender as well as the left.
We'll be at most of the OVR events, feel free to come grab me and I'll offer on site critique, for whatever that is worth.[/QUOTE]
Thanks a lot for your critque, just to mention, that was just one of the MANY runs I got that day and wasnt my best... I didnt get my best run that day on film. The main thing that I changed later on from that video you saw was, the right hand turn with the bump in it (after the 2nd slalom) I took in tighter (like one turn) and it really helped the time, I eventually got something like a low 40 second run if I remeber... it was a 40.1 or so. Anyway, are you going to be at the OVR school on the 29th, then the PE on the 30th. I wouldnt mind your input then.
Everyone else, thanks a ton for the comments. I really appreciate it. I agree with you all, I seem to turn in to fast and I dont look far enough ahead... I love getting these videos critiqued it helps a ton. Again, thanks!
:banana:
| WRX 2002 | 04-10-2006 06:40 PM |
[QUOTE=AndrewSS]I was on the yokohama advan A046, is the tire that comes stock on the Evo.[/QUOTE]
They looked like they were getting very greasy as the session progressed. You might want to get some track tires like RA1 that might hold up better or consistant across the session.
They looked like they were getting very greasy as the session progressed. You might want to get some track tires like RA1 that might hold up better or consistant across the session.
| DragginWagon | 04-10-2006 08:17 PM |
well one thing that stood out in the incar vid, is you hardley changed gears at all durring an entire lap. i think only saw you downshift one time, and upshift on the back straight. correct me if im wrong. I was there in my STI in the advanced run group, i know i changed gears many more times.
| AndrewSS | 04-10-2006 08:27 PM |
^ I shifted into 5th on both of the main straights, then back to 4th after both of them, only time i went into 3rd was at turn 3.
That camera view doesnt show it all that well and its hard to hear.
That camera view doesnt show it all that well and its hard to hear.
| REX8 | 04-10-2006 08:58 PM |
Bimmer in the dirt!
| grippgoat | 04-10-2006 08:59 PM |
I've never driven Gingerman, and I can't hear your engine very well in the video, but it sounds and looks like you're taking a very neutral apex line through the corners. What I've found to work freakishly well in my STI at Portland, on the recommendation of a very fast instructor, is to brake pretty hard before the corner, trail brake a bit to get the car rotating, and don't turn too hard, stay a bit wider. Then after brake release, when you want to start feeding in throttle, wait just a bit with your foot completely off the throttle, until you can tell your nose is pointed such that you'd run over the apex cone with your inside front if it were there. At that point (usually a car length or two before the apex), you can usually then apply, quite literally, FULL throttle, foot to the floor. The car will drift just enough that you hit the Apex rather than going inside it. You'll give up a bit of entry and mid-corner speed, but you will crap your pants at how hard the car will pull out of the corner while still maintaining the line. They key is that moment of being competely off the throttle. If you use even a little bit of throttle during that moment, it will slow your rotation and point the nose back out a bit (I think that little bit of throttle makes the differentials react and inhibit rotation), and you'll get more understeer and won't be able to apply anywhere near as much throttle and won't have nearly as much exit speed.
-Mike
-Mike
| AndrewSS | 04-10-2006 10:10 PM |
^ thanks for that paragraph, good info!
| bluescoobywagon | 04-11-2006 10:48 AM |
Is there any way to do a save as on the AutoX video? Your run doesn't look too much different from what I was doing. Although I saw you went wider into turn 3 than I was. You're definately cleaner through the second slolam than I am. And I didn't hear you roasting the tires off the line like I was...
| AndrewSS | 04-11-2006 11:17 AM |
^ I am not sure putfile will let you do that, I think their is a program that you can use to capture streaming videos... hrmmm
| awesome2.5rs | 04-11-2006 01:49 PM |
good stuff, I had fun at the event too ;)
| AndrewSS | 04-12-2006 04:55 PM |
Again, thanks for all the comments guys, just a quick one for you avid road racers, I plan to set my car up with STU in mind... and trackdays for fun. With that in mind, you have already my seen what mods I already have, essentially a strano FSB. Now, I plan on spending a limited amount of money on mods, but I am thinking of PDE Front camber plates and either the 22mm or 24mm whiteline RSB. Any thoughts on how loose the car gets with stock springs/struts with the addition of a bar like the 24mm... or should I go for the 22mm. Do you think my money is pretty much best spent on those 2 mods, or just save that money towards coilovers (tein flex maybe). Ok, well any experience/comments you can report would be appreciated...
| M8 | 04-12-2006 07:46 PM |
I watched the track session without sound: So I can only offer a little bit: You seem to be driving faster than your eyes. You should be looking deeper into the corner and beyond. That is why you are making so many mid corner corrections. You should be able to fix your eyes on the apex, lock in your steering and let the car get you there: As you approach, you look beyond the apex (to the exit edge) and then further down the track to your next destination. The short version of all this: Less steering input.
| Butt Dyno | 04-12-2006 08:08 PM |
Just watched the autox video.
One easy suggestion - try mounting the camera somewhere else :) I have a Chasecam mounted on the outside of the rear driver-side window - lets you see your hands very well, most of the steering wheel, most of your head, and lets you get a little more perspective of the course (since it's higher off the ground, you can see further). No perspective is perfect but that is the one that works the best, IMHO. (I will have to upload one) The angle you have makes it really difficult to see right-hand turns.
As far as critique:
1) It looks like, especially in the 2nd video, that you were "behind" on the slaloms. (This is something I need to work on, too.)
2) I can't tell for sure, but it looks like in certain mini-sweepers, you are cranking the wheel more to get the car to turn more, even after the tires are already squealing a little. In some of those situations lifting a bit might help the car rotate and get around the corner faster. (again - video makes it hard to tell - can't see your hands that well) edit: M8 said it more succinctly than I did - less/smoother steering input.
If I ever have a good run, I'll have to post it here :lol:
edit: here's (half of) my best run from the Subaru Challenge last year - just to give you an idea about what the "over the left shoulder" view gets you. (The camera switch went to 'off' in the middle of the run... never buy a Canon Elura - and if you do, put duct tape on the power switch)
[url]http://media.putfile.com/John--Subaru-Challenge-2005-best-run[/url]
john
One easy suggestion - try mounting the camera somewhere else :) I have a Chasecam mounted on the outside of the rear driver-side window - lets you see your hands very well, most of the steering wheel, most of your head, and lets you get a little more perspective of the course (since it's higher off the ground, you can see further). No perspective is perfect but that is the one that works the best, IMHO. (I will have to upload one) The angle you have makes it really difficult to see right-hand turns.
As far as critique:
1) It looks like, especially in the 2nd video, that you were "behind" on the slaloms. (This is something I need to work on, too.)
2) I can't tell for sure, but it looks like in certain mini-sweepers, you are cranking the wheel more to get the car to turn more, even after the tires are already squealing a little. In some of those situations lifting a bit might help the car rotate and get around the corner faster. (again - video makes it hard to tell - can't see your hands that well) edit: M8 said it more succinctly than I did - less/smoother steering input.
If I ever have a good run, I'll have to post it here :lol:
edit: here's (half of) my best run from the Subaru Challenge last year - just to give you an idea about what the "over the left shoulder" view gets you. (The camera switch went to 'off' in the middle of the run... never buy a Canon Elura - and if you do, put duct tape on the power switch)
[url]http://media.putfile.com/John--Subaru-Challenge-2005-best-run[/url]
john
| AndrewSS | 04-12-2006 09:21 PM |
Thanks for the comments, I have heard that many times... stop with so many steering inputs - especially too much cranking at it mid turn... I really am going to focus on cutting that out and getting SMOOOOOTHHHH!!!!! I also need to look ahead more, I must train myself to do this. I think you make a good point in #2 as well... about how I just kept turning more and more...
I am going to take a look at the incar perspective you got there john, the internet here at this school SUCKS so video downloading is horrible.
Again, thanks for all the feedback, I hope I can get a wideangle lense to get a better view.
***edit, just watched it, wow that angle is really cool... man chasecam setups with the bullet cams rock. I should just get a wide angle on my camcorder cause I cant afford a full chasecam system with the bullet cameras and all at this point, but again, sweet angle!
I am going to take a look at the incar perspective you got there john, the internet here at this school SUCKS so video downloading is horrible.
Again, thanks for all the feedback, I hope I can get a wideangle lense to get a better view.
***edit, just watched it, wow that angle is really cool... man chasecam setups with the bullet cams rock. I should just get a wide angle on my camcorder cause I cant afford a full chasecam system with the bullet cameras and all at this point, but again, sweet angle!
| buster | 04-13-2006 04:19 AM |
Check tire pressures. Don't "Race" in between gates, think of how the corners are linked and the fastest smoothest line.
| racekar | 04-14-2006 02:36 AM |
were rpms were you at in the turns i didnt see much shifting going on either.
| DemolitionNine | 04-14-2006 08:41 AM |
In the auto-x.... those turns were WAAAAAY tight. Jesus. Looks like you didn't even get a chance to get the car some breathing room.
Come to a KCRSCCA race. We open em' up a bit more. ;)
Come to a KCRSCCA race. We open em' up a bit more. ;)
| AndrewSS | 04-14-2006 05:25 PM |
[QUOTE=racekar]were rpms were you at in the turns i didnt see much shifting going on either.[/QUOTE]
I was in forth for most of it, at the end of the two main straights I briefly got into 5th, then downshifted back to 4th... only time I got into 3rd was turn 3. The camera angle + the wind noise made it hard to tell when I was shifting. I think that maybe I could get into 3rd after a few of the corners, maybe.
I was in forth for most of it, at the end of the two main straights I briefly got into 5th, then downshifted back to 4th... only time I got into 3rd was turn 3. The camera angle + the wind noise made it hard to tell when I was shifting. I think that maybe I could get into 3rd after a few of the corners, maybe.
| AndrewSS | 05-04-2006 02:48 AM |
*** check out my second video from last weekend, I actually took 1st in STU this run, I still was over driving the fronts especially in a few places... but anyway check it out and give me some feed back... btw the new wide angle is great! :D
[url]http://media.putfile.com/andrew-autox-april-30th[/url]
thanks!
[url]http://media.putfile.com/andrew-autox-april-30th[/url]
thanks!
| WRXedUSA | 05-04-2006 08:09 PM |
Aha! registered as STU now!!
I just watched the orginal run, as KC said, you were hot in, that scrubs speed coming out. Use the generous torque band of the STi to your adavantage.
And, you were shuffling a bit too much with the wheel, indicating to me uncontrolled entry aka freak understeer.
You have a FSB right?
I just watched the orginal run, as KC said, you were hot in, that scrubs speed coming out. Use the generous torque band of the STi to your adavantage.
And, you were shuffling a bit too much with the wheel, indicating to me uncontrolled entry aka freak understeer.
You have a FSB right?
| WRXedUSA | 05-04-2006 08:12 PM |
[QUOTE=AndrewSS]*** check out my second video from last weekend, I actually took 1st in STU this run, I still was over driving the fronts especially in a few places... but anyway check it out and give me some feed back... btw the new wide angle is great! :D
[url]http://media.putfile.com/andrew-autox-april-30th[/url]
thanks![/QUOTE]
Unless you were running the same course, that video looks like the first one.
[url]http://media.putfile.com/andrew-autox-april-30th[/url]
thanks![/QUOTE]
Unless you were running the same course, that video looks like the first one.
| WRXedUSA | 05-04-2006 08:14 PM |
[QUOTE=DemolitionNine]In the auto-x.... those turns were WAAAAAY tight. Jesus. Looks like you didn't even get a chance to get the car some breathing room.
Come to a KCRSCCA race. We open em' up a bit more. ;)[/QUOTE]
Yes. Lot L is basically a small road course. :banana:
<----Top of 3rd gear on the 4/9 course.
Come to a KCRSCCA race. We open em' up a bit more. ;)[/QUOTE]
Yes. Lot L is basically a small road course. :banana:
<----Top of 3rd gear on the 4/9 course.
| AndrewSS | 05-04-2006 09:27 PM |
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]Aha! registered as STU now!!
I just watched the orginal run, as KC said, you were hot in, that scrubs speed coming out. Use the generous torque band of the STi to your adavantage.
And, you were shuffling a bit too much with the wheel, indicating to me uncontrolled entry aka freak understeer.
You have a FSB right?[/QUOTE]
yep, STU all the way ;)
yeah i tend to go hot in too much... but im working on it... on sweepers I usually tend to shuffle/saw a lot, I agree I gotta work on that.
I have the strano FSB and a WL 24mm RSB.
I just watched the orginal run, as KC said, you were hot in, that scrubs speed coming out. Use the generous torque band of the STi to your adavantage.
And, you were shuffling a bit too much with the wheel, indicating to me uncontrolled entry aka freak understeer.
You have a FSB right?[/QUOTE]
yep, STU all the way ;)
yeah i tend to go hot in too much... but im working on it... on sweepers I usually tend to shuffle/saw a lot, I agree I gotta work on that.
I have the strano FSB and a WL 24mm RSB.
| AndrewSS | 05-04-2006 09:30 PM |
[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]Unless you were running the same course, that video looks like the first one.[/QUOTE]
the original video is a run in with OVR in columbus at our cooper lot, then the 2nd run on that vid is in fortwayne, now the new video wiht the wide angle is at the ackerman OSU lot in columbus (w/ OVR).
the original video is a run in with OVR in columbus at our cooper lot, then the 2nd run on that vid is in fortwayne, now the new video wiht the wide angle is at the ackerman OSU lot in columbus (w/ OVR).
| IBAUCLAPlaya | 05-05-2006 12:13 AM |
Damn I didn't know that you were on NASIOC. I saw the STi w/ the roll bar camera mount and was wondering who the driver was. I was the black WRX, 10 STX. FWIW here is a ****ty ass video of my four runs of the day. I know I need to work on my line through a few of the sweepers, but any other tips?
[url]http://videos.streetfire.net/video/550E7335-261B-4090-92AE-611E8A9197E1.htm[/url]
I believe my best time was 48.6xx or something, and I definately left at least a second out on the course by not taking the right line and not having tire pressures dialed in. I ended up running 36.5/35.5 psi hot in my RS2s in order to not be sliding everywhere. Probably could've dropped another 1/2 or full psi to get max grip.
[url]http://videos.streetfire.net/video/550E7335-261B-4090-92AE-611E8A9197E1.htm[/url]
I believe my best time was 48.6xx or something, and I definately left at least a second out on the course by not taking the right line and not having tire pressures dialed in. I ended up running 36.5/35.5 psi hot in my RS2s in order to not be sliding everywhere. Probably could've dropped another 1/2 or full psi to get max grip.
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