| JoD | 04-12-2006 12:56 PM |
Acura is joining the ALMS in 2007
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So the husband is a body design engineer for Honda R&D and sent me a nifty little article about Acura's plans to submit a car for ALMS 2007. It's a pretty schnazzy looking car.
I don't know anything about the series, but I'm sure some of you might be interested. So, if you are, please PM me, and I'll send you the email he sent me complete with it's lovely pics and tons of info.
Or, if someone wants to host those bad boys, all the better.
I don't know anything about the series, but I'm sure some of you might be interested. So, if you are, please PM me, and I'll send you the email he sent me complete with it's lovely pics and tons of info.
Or, if someone wants to host those bad boys, all the better.
| trhoppe | 04-12-2006 01:00 PM |
trhoppe at gmail.com and I'll host em.
-Tom
-Tom
| JoD | 04-12-2006 01:01 PM |
[QUOTE=trhoppe]trhoppe at gmail.com and I'll host em.
-Tom[/QUOTE]
Thanks Tom - I'll forward you the whole shebang now...
Jody
-Tom[/QUOTE]
Thanks Tom - I'll forward you the whole shebang now...
Jody
| CirrusWRX | 04-12-2006 01:07 PM |
*grabs popcorn
:)
:)
| trhoppe | 04-12-2006 01:11 PM |
Dude! Sweeet!
[img]http://www.trackmonkeyracing.com/misc_pics/Acura profile.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.trackmonkeyracing.com/misc_pics/Acura rear 3_4.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.trackmonkeyracing.com/misc_pics/Acura rear.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.trackmonkeyracing.com/misc_pics/Acura_front_1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.trackmonkeyracing.com/misc_pics/Acura_front_2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.trackmonkeyracing.com/misc_pics/Acura_front_3_4_high.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.trackmonkeyracing.com/misc_pics/Acura_front_3_4_low.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.trackmonkeyracing.com/misc_pics/acura_motor.jpg[/img]
Cliff Notes - NEW YORK, NY (April 12, 2006) � Acura will enter the 2007 American Le Mans Series, competing in the LMP2 class, company officials have announced. This will mark Acura�s first factory motorsports program in the 20-year history of the company.
An Acura-powered endurance-racing prototype will make its competition debut at the 55th Mobil 1 Twelve Hours of Sebring in March of 2007, racing against manufacturer-supported efforts from Audi, Porsche and Mazda, and a variety of well-equipped privateer teams.
Engine Type: Normally aspirated, fuel-injected, aluminum alloy cylinder block V-8
Displacement: 3.4 liters
Horsepower: 500+ bhp
Valve Train: Dual overhead camshaft, four valves per cylinder
Engine Management: Motorola/Honda ECU
Ignition System: CDI
Lubrication: Dry sump
Cooling: Single water pump
-Tom
[img]http://www.trackmonkeyracing.com/misc_pics/Acura profile.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.trackmonkeyracing.com/misc_pics/Acura rear 3_4.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.trackmonkeyracing.com/misc_pics/Acura rear.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.trackmonkeyracing.com/misc_pics/Acura_front_1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.trackmonkeyracing.com/misc_pics/Acura_front_2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.trackmonkeyracing.com/misc_pics/Acura_front_3_4_high.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.trackmonkeyracing.com/misc_pics/Acura_front_3_4_low.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.trackmonkeyracing.com/misc_pics/acura_motor.jpg[/img]
Cliff Notes - NEW YORK, NY (April 12, 2006) � Acura will enter the 2007 American Le Mans Series, competing in the LMP2 class, company officials have announced. This will mark Acura�s first factory motorsports program in the 20-year history of the company.
An Acura-powered endurance-racing prototype will make its competition debut at the 55th Mobil 1 Twelve Hours of Sebring in March of 2007, racing against manufacturer-supported efforts from Audi, Porsche and Mazda, and a variety of well-equipped privateer teams.
Engine Type: Normally aspirated, fuel-injected, aluminum alloy cylinder block V-8
Displacement: 3.4 liters
Horsepower: 500+ bhp
Valve Train: Dual overhead camshaft, four valves per cylinder
Engine Management: Motorola/Honda ECU
Ignition System: CDI
Lubrication: Dry sump
Cooling: Single water pump
-Tom
| daphunkie12 | 04-12-2006 01:13 PM |
freaking awsome but audi still rules!!!!
| nKoan | 04-12-2006 01:19 PM |
Awesome.
Wonder if they'll be competitive against the RS Spyder.
Wonder if they'll be competitive against the RS Spyder.
| PhilC | 04-12-2006 01:31 PM |
It's good to see more manufacturers joining the group in endurance racing, more competition is great for the series and racing in general.
| MarkA | 04-12-2006 01:35 PM |
That car looks awesome!
Yet another reason ALMS > Grand-Am
Yet another reason ALMS > Grand-Am
| pio!pio! | 04-12-2006 01:46 PM |
AFAIK I thought they were only gonna provide a motor..that is..the team/teams they run will use other chassis (ie not Honda developed chassis)..I think then that the pics are more of a paint scheme mockup...
| WRXMaster | 04-12-2006 01:48 PM |
I got excited hoping they would run in the gt class :(
| Scoob5555 | 04-12-2006 02:01 PM |
If Honda is serious about this, the Porshe will have some real competition.
| endeavor | 04-12-2006 02:21 PM |
Wow that's awesome. ALMS is already a great series -- and it keeps getting better. I wonder if they would consider splitting up prototype and GT into two distinct races. TV coverage of the GT classes is always pretty sparse because they are so much slower than P1 and P2.
| artkevin | 04-12-2006 02:29 PM |
[QUOTE=pio!pio!]AFAIK I thought they were only gonna provide a motor..that is..the team/teams they run will use other chassis (ie not Honda developed chassis)..I think then that the pics are more of a paint scheme mockup...[/QUOTE]
It's strange that the don't have head or tail lights in it.
It's strange that the don't have head or tail lights in it.
| pio!pio! | 04-12-2006 02:48 PM |
[QUOTE=artkevin]It's strange that the don't have head or tail lights in it.[/QUOTE]
yea just a 3d model of the paint scheme
yea just a 3d model of the paint scheme
| BriDrive | 04-12-2006 02:59 PM |
That is GREAT news!
I can't see Honda not doing the whole car. They can cost effectively develop the monocoque with their newly wholly owned F1 operation/engineering facilities and infrastructure.
The P2 class is going to become a real crowd pleaser.
Now if the GT1 & GT2 classes could just get some more new blood the ALMS is going to further establish itself as THE sportcar series of the world.
I can't see Honda not doing the whole car. They can cost effectively develop the monocoque with their newly wholly owned F1 operation/engineering facilities and infrastructure.
The P2 class is going to become a real crowd pleaser.
Now if the GT1 & GT2 classes could just get some more new blood the ALMS is going to further establish itself as THE sportcar series of the world.
| Need BB | 04-12-2006 03:03 PM |
A honda with a v8:) The NSX engine in disguise!
| BriDrive | 04-12-2006 03:09 PM |
ALMS release: [url]http://www.americanlemans.com/News/Article.aspx?ID=1913[/url]
Looks like Pio is right...chassis will be Lola or Courage...(They have apparently decided there is no need to reinvent the wheel as these are 2 of the preeminent buliders who have already built to FIA 2006 specs...)
BriDrive
Looks like Pio is right...chassis will be Lola or Courage...(They have apparently decided there is no need to reinvent the wheel as these are 2 of the preeminent buliders who have already built to FIA 2006 specs...)
BriDrive
| [email�protected] | 04-12-2006 03:28 PM |
Need to check out Acuras release as well, it goes deeper than the ALMS one. [url]http://www.speedarena.com/news/publish/sportscar/article_6675.shtml[/url]
They have plans for an all Acura LMP1 car for '08 as well. I imagine that using both the Courage and Lola in P2 will allow them to see what works and doesnt from both chassis and use the best of both in their own design in '08.
They have plans for an all Acura LMP1 car for '08 as well. I imagine that using both the Courage and Lola in P2 will allow them to see what works and doesnt from both chassis and use the best of both in their own design in '08.
| pio!pio! | 04-12-2006 03:44 PM |
They are just planning on adapting their IRL motor right?
| kfoote | 04-12-2006 03:50 PM |
I thought that Comptech was a factory team when they were running the Camel Lights series back in the day. It wasn't an Acura chassis, but I had thought the engine program was a full factory deal.
[img]http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1993/Daytona-1993-01-31-049.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1993/Daytona-1993-01-31-049.jpg[/img]
| pio!pio! | 04-12-2006 03:54 PM |
Does comptech still do any racing or engineering support nowadays? I only know them from aftermarket honda parts...
| kfoote | 04-12-2006 03:57 PM |
[QUOTE=pio!pio!]Does comptech still do any racing or engineering support nowadays? I only know them from aftermarket honda parts...[/QUOTE]
I believe that though they aren't currently fielding a full time effort in a major racing series, that they are still building and selling race specific parts for those series, and I imagine that they have a product development deal worked out with at least one or two teams.
I believe that though they aren't currently fielding a full time effort in a major racing series, that they are still building and selling race specific parts for those series, and I imagine that they have a product development deal worked out with at least one or two teams.
| solo2wrx | 04-12-2006 08:44 PM |
I have been waiting for Honda to get back into sports car racing for years. Other than running in World Challenge and providing motors for IRL and CART, there hasn't been much in Honda motorsports participation for several years. This will put them back into the big leagues not including F1 that is.
The last team that I know of that Comptech actually fielded was the old World Challenge before Realtime took over. This was also when DC Sports fielded a team of two ITRs that competed against the Comptech team.
The last team that I know of that Comptech actually fielded was the old World Challenge before Realtime took over. This was also when DC Sports fielded a team of two ITRs that competed against the Comptech team.
| pio!pio! | 04-12-2006 11:22 PM |
[QUOTE=BriDrive]That is GREAT news!
I can't see Honda not doing the whole car. They can cost effectively develop the monocoque with their newly wholly owned F1 operation/engineering facilities and infrastructure.
The P2 class is going to become a real crowd pleaser.
Now if the GT1 & GT2 classes could just get some more new blood the ALMS is going to further establish itself as THE sportcar series of the world.[/QUOTE]
Thing is..this is funded by American Honda...Acura..whatever...not Honda as a whole..so prolly wont have access to Honda F1...in the similar vein that Porche North America paid the money for their racecar..and Mazda USA paid money for their racecar...
I can't see Honda not doing the whole car. They can cost effectively develop the monocoque with their newly wholly owned F1 operation/engineering facilities and infrastructure.
The P2 class is going to become a real crowd pleaser.
Now if the GT1 & GT2 classes could just get some more new blood the ALMS is going to further establish itself as THE sportcar series of the world.[/QUOTE]
Thing is..this is funded by American Honda...Acura..whatever...not Honda as a whole..so prolly wont have access to Honda F1...in the similar vein that Porche North America paid the money for their racecar..and Mazda USA paid money for their racecar...
| chadblock | 04-13-2006 12:36 AM |
[QUOTE=pio!pio!]Thing is..this is funded by American Honda...Acura..whatever...not Honda as a whole..so prolly wont have access to Honda F1...in the similar vein that Porche North America paid the money for their racecar..and Mazda USA paid money for their racecar...[/QUOTE]
mazda lmp2 is privately funded, dont be fooled.
cb
mazda lmp2 is privately funded, dont be fooled.
cb
| pio!pio! | 04-13-2006 02:47 AM |
[QUOTE=chadblock]mazda lmp2 is privately funded, dont be fooled.
cb[/QUOTE]
serious? sportsbook.com have deep pockets? :D
Hopefully they get discounted mazdaspeed 20B parts or something!!
cb[/QUOTE]
serious? sportsbook.com have deep pockets? :D
Hopefully they get discounted mazdaspeed 20B parts or something!!
| CirrusWRX | 04-13-2006 09:35 AM |
L-O-L-A LOLA
La la la la LOLAAAAAA
:)
Lola body + Acura (Honda) motor = t3h win?
La la la la LOLAAAAAA
:)
Lola body + Acura (Honda) motor = t3h win?
| BriDrive | 04-13-2006 10:12 AM |
Not to beat this to death, but the monocoque is THE most expensive initial cost of the entire car. You can go buy one from Lola, for example, who have been in the business of fabricating monocoques so enjoy relative economy of scale as a supplier. This scenario nets you a monocoque for, say $500,000~$650,000. (you may need a couple for a season if you run into the unfortunate position of wadding one up badly enough)
OR, you can build your own. Starting from scratch, the facilities/ovens/autoclaves etc,etc...will run into the millions when you factor design,engineer,staff,overhead, blah,blah,blah...that's before you birth your first "chassis".
My initial thoughts were, REGARDLESS of American Honda or otherwise, they would enjoy the benefit and resources available to them through their global corporate umbrella. There would be absolutely no reason not to indulge in the infrastructure already in place via Honda F1 with regard to utilizing resources already in place. Indeed, it seems, their major corporate focus long run, is an attempt an invite to LeMans 24hr in 2008 with P1...this makes sense as Honda has always been keen to establish themselves at the upper eschelons of motorsport...It is a MAJOR marketing theme.......
Anyhow...I'm thrilled...I say Porsche RS spyder P2 smokes them in 2007 over here in ALMS...and then 2008...game on, in P1 and P2.
<Chad Block needs to start talking to people....NOW>
BriDrive
OR, you can build your own. Starting from scratch, the facilities/ovens/autoclaves etc,etc...will run into the millions when you factor design,engineer,staff,overhead, blah,blah,blah...that's before you birth your first "chassis".
My initial thoughts were, REGARDLESS of American Honda or otherwise, they would enjoy the benefit and resources available to them through their global corporate umbrella. There would be absolutely no reason not to indulge in the infrastructure already in place via Honda F1 with regard to utilizing resources already in place. Indeed, it seems, their major corporate focus long run, is an attempt an invite to LeMans 24hr in 2008 with P1...this makes sense as Honda has always been keen to establish themselves at the upper eschelons of motorsport...It is a MAJOR marketing theme.......
Anyhow...I'm thrilled...I say Porsche RS spyder P2 smokes them in 2007 over here in ALMS...and then 2008...game on, in P1 and P2.
<Chad Block needs to start talking to people....NOW>
BriDrive
| chadblock | 04-13-2006 11:39 PM |
[QUOTE=pio!pio!]serious? sportsbook.com have deep pockets? :D
Hopefully they get discounted mazdaspeed 20B parts or something!![/QUOTE]
well, notice no sportsbook logos at sebring...
he ehe...
i need a damn ride, opening the shop is takingup 99% of my time...
damnit
heehe
cb
Hopefully they get discounted mazdaspeed 20B parts or something!![/QUOTE]
well, notice no sportsbook logos at sebring...
he ehe...
i need a damn ride, opening the shop is takingup 99% of my time...
damnit
heehe
cb
| TimStevens | 04-14-2006 09:34 AM |
Damn... P2 is seriously heating up... going to be the group to watch, along with GT of course :)
| dave bruener | 04-14-2006 10:33 AM |
Any mention of who will be driving for the team?
Any of the familiar RealTime guys?
Any of the familiar RealTime guys?
| [email�protected] | 04-15-2006 09:09 PM |
[QUOTE=chadblock]mazda lmp2 is privately funded, dont be fooled.
cb[/QUOTE]
They are privately funded to an extent. However, they are getting input and help from Mazda and Mazdaspeed. Its certainly not being fully funded by Mazda, but they are involved to some extent.
cb[/QUOTE]
They are privately funded to an extent. However, they are getting input and help from Mazda and Mazdaspeed. Its certainly not being fully funded by Mazda, but they are involved to some extent.
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