| MMBOOST | 10-14-2002 04:33 AM |
Do not get replica eyelids, and here's why
I bought some replics JUN eyelids. They are the plastic ones with doublestick tape. They'd be fine if the weren't cut so poorly. I use the term "replica" loosely.
I spoke with my vendor and he checked his whole stock. He says they all are this bad.
Note the outter edges which do no match the curve of the headlight trim. Also, notice how the hood marks up the eyelid.
jason
p.s. yes, these are mounted properly, and AFAIK, there' s only one manufacturer of replica eyelids.
[IMG]http://jasongabler.net/photos/wrx/2002_10_02_Eyelids/10020002.JPG[/IMG][IMG]http://jasongabler.net/photos/wrx/2002_10_02_Eyelids/10020003.JPG[/IMG][IMG]http://jasongabler.net/photos/wrx/2002_10_02_Eyelids/10020007.JPG[/IMG][IMG]http://jasongabler.net/photos/wrx/2002_10_02_Eyelids/10020004.JPG[/IMG]
I spoke with my vendor and he checked his whole stock. He says they all are this bad.
Note the outter edges which do no match the curve of the headlight trim. Also, notice how the hood marks up the eyelid.
jason
p.s. yes, these are mounted properly, and AFAIK, there' s only one manufacturer of replica eyelids.
[IMG]http://jasongabler.net/photos/wrx/2002_10_02_Eyelids/10020002.JPG[/IMG][IMG]http://jasongabler.net/photos/wrx/2002_10_02_Eyelids/10020003.JPG[/IMG][IMG]http://jasongabler.net/photos/wrx/2002_10_02_Eyelids/10020007.JPG[/IMG][IMG]http://jasongabler.net/photos/wrx/2002_10_02_Eyelids/10020004.JPG[/IMG]
| WRX-ellent | 10-14-2002 07:49 AM |
The first pic doesn't look bad but when you get closer, that's when you notice the imperfections...
~joe
~joe
| Fast Wagon | 10-14-2002 09:17 AM |
no offence but what did you expect for $60 painted& shipped??? I mean really i bought them to and also noticed it but from 5' away can't you really tell that much untill you really look hard at the one point? Did you call them and tell them??? if so what did they tell you?
Paul G.
Paul G.
| MMBOOST | 10-14-2002 09:55 AM |
FastWagon,
Honestly, I get the feeling you just want to play devil's advocate here... or just shoot your mouth off :rolleyes: Its not hard to get these simple pieces of plastic to cut or mold just right. This isn't body work rocket science, not plastic moulding rocket science. Heck, the manufacturere could have just taken the JUN ones and molded them after that. It's not like there's a patent.
I got them $30, picked up locally... my shop doesn't rip me off like most shops are prone to do :rolleyes: Secondly, I spoke with him and he checked the whole batch... all are bad.
jason
p.s. if you feel like griping at my response, just remember that I did not have to do this post. Right or wrong regarding my irritation as a direct ratio to what I paid, the facts are this part is flawed and my warning is a public service that I am not required to do but I did so out of generosity with my own time. So please think about that before you respond :rolleyes: Saying "no offence" (sic) does not lend license.
Honestly, I get the feeling you just want to play devil's advocate here... or just shoot your mouth off :rolleyes: Its not hard to get these simple pieces of plastic to cut or mold just right. This isn't body work rocket science, not plastic moulding rocket science. Heck, the manufacturere could have just taken the JUN ones and molded them after that. It's not like there's a patent.
I got them $30, picked up locally... my shop doesn't rip me off like most shops are prone to do :rolleyes: Secondly, I spoke with him and he checked the whole batch... all are bad.
jason
p.s. if you feel like griping at my response, just remember that I did not have to do this post. Right or wrong regarding my irritation as a direct ratio to what I paid, the facts are this part is flawed and my warning is a public service that I am not required to do but I did so out of generosity with my own time. So please think about that before you respond :rolleyes: Saying "no offence" (sic) does not lend license.
| Fast Wagon | 10-14-2002 10:02 AM |
since abovisouly you took offence but remember you normally get what you pay for... and as for me saying what i think if you can't take it tough don't post in an open forum then... end of story c-ya
| Rebellion | 10-14-2002 10:38 AM |
exactly.. it's just plastic... how hard is it to make it the right shape? You're saying you get what you pay for... I don't think I'm getting very much if I spend $200 or whatever it is for the JUN ones when it's a $5 piece of plastic.
| chickensatay | 10-14-2002 10:45 AM |
should've just bought some vinyl much cheaper.
| Fast Wagon | 10-14-2002 10:52 AM |
okay fine if you want better ones who here has acutally called and complained??? If so what did they say?
| MMBOOST | 10-14-2002 03:33 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by chickensatay [/i]
[B]should've just bought some vinyl much cheaper. [/B][/QUOTE]
chickensatay (mmmmm I love satay, heh),
do you have some photos? I wouldn't think this would look right, as in the same as a painted eyelid.
jason
[B]should've just bought some vinyl much cheaper. [/B][/QUOTE]
chickensatay (mmmmm I love satay, heh),
do you have some photos? I wouldn't think this would look right, as in the same as a painted eyelid.
jason
| MMBOOST | 10-14-2002 03:36 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Fast Wagon [/i]
[B]okay fine if you want better ones who here has acutally called and complained??? If so what did they say? [/B][/QUOTE]
Ah, and here I thought we had been liberated from unwarranted crankiness with a "c-ya". Anyhow...
My local shop complained on my and their own behalf. The manufacturer was surprised. It didn't seem to go further than that.
jason
[B]okay fine if you want better ones who here has acutally called and complained??? If so what did they say? [/B][/QUOTE]
Ah, and here I thought we had been liberated from unwarranted crankiness with a "c-ya". Anyhow...
My local shop complained on my and their own behalf. The manufacturer was surprised. It didn't seem to go further than that.
jason
| r_master | 10-14-2002 03:55 PM |
Hey Jason, sorry to hear that... but I think they look pretty good unless you go super close and look at it... so the manufacture didn't do much about it huh? i say just keep it, it looks good on ya~!!
| MMBOOST | 10-15-2002 04:25 PM |
Thanx Jae. Yeah, I'm just keeping them. Heck the real ones are like $80 :eek:
jason
jason
| 2sour4u | 10-15-2002 07:08 PM |
You got hosed!
| Sea Dragon Rex | 10-15-2002 07:17 PM |
"AFAIK"
I like the name!:lol:
I like the name!:lol:
| Verdugo | 10-15-2002 07:47 PM |
Wow, that really looks like crap :( I don't see any excuse why the manufacturer couldn't get them right either.
| subarex | 10-15-2002 07:56 PM |
I got them last week too also painted silver and while I found the imperfection a little annoying, I didnt really let it bother me too much. It's funny that the one that covers the left headlight was shaped better than the one covering the right light. I actually filed down the right one to round it out a little better. From your picture it looks like yours are he same as mine. Anyway it improves the cars looks, but I like them so much better on a white or black wrx. I have silver too.
| Brahmzy | 10-15-2002 08:21 PM |
Just another reason I'm glad I've waited for an '04 - no bugeye worries.
| Fat Ugly Soccer Mom | 10-15-2002 11:13 PM |
If it's any consolation, the authentic Jun eyelids aren't the greatest fit either. Mine overlap the outer edge of the bugeye a bit too much for my liking and were a ba$tard to get put on lined up evenly on both sides.
| MMBOOST | 10-16-2002 11:33 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Brahmzy [/i]
[B]Just another reason I'm glad I've waited for an '04 - no bugeye worries. [/B][/QUOTE]
Now you have headlights just like the '04 Civic :lol:
jason
[B]Just another reason I'm glad I've waited for an '04 - no bugeye worries. [/B][/QUOTE]
Now you have headlights just like the '04 Civic :lol:
jason
| MMBOOST | 10-16-2002 11:35 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by subarex [/i]
[B]I got them last week too also painted silver and while I found the imperfection a little annoying, I didnt really let it bother me too much. It's funny that the one that covers the left headlight was shaped better than the one covering the right light. I actually filed down the right one to round it out a little better. From your picture it looks like yours are he same as mine. Anyway it improves the cars looks, but I like them so much better on a white or black wrx. I have silver too. [/B][/QUOTE]
Thanx for report subarex. Unfortunately I like thing done right the first time. With my previous car "a little off" was OK. When you get enough "little off"s, your car starts too look like one, big "off". Jank-o-rama. :rolleyes:
jason
[B]I got them last week too also painted silver and while I found the imperfection a little annoying, I didnt really let it bother me too much. It's funny that the one that covers the left headlight was shaped better than the one covering the right light. I actually filed down the right one to round it out a little better. From your picture it looks like yours are he same as mine. Anyway it improves the cars looks, but I like them so much better on a white or black wrx. I have silver too. [/B][/QUOTE]
Thanx for report subarex. Unfortunately I like thing done right the first time. With my previous car "a little off" was OK. When you get enough "little off"s, your car starts too look like one, big "off". Jank-o-rama. :rolleyes:
jason
| MMBOOST | 10-16-2002 11:37 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Fat Ugly Soccer Mom [/i]
[B]If it's any consolation, the authentic Jun eyelids aren't the greatest fit either. Mine overlap the outer edge of the bugeye a bit too much for my liking and were a ba$tard to get put on lined up evenly on both sides. [/B][/QUOTE]
Wow, that does suck... unfortunately its no consolation to me that someone else suffers ;) but thanx for trying. Heheheh. However, you do have a better deal: since my eyelids are too short (horizontally) I cannot really make them fit better except perhaps to make contours more similar to the body. You, however, could shorten yours so that they do not overlap. Ever think of that?
jason
[B]If it's any consolation, the authentic Jun eyelids aren't the greatest fit either. Mine overlap the outer edge of the bugeye a bit too much for my liking and were a ba$tard to get put on lined up evenly on both sides. [/B][/QUOTE]
Wow, that does suck... unfortunately its no consolation to me that someone else suffers ;) but thanx for trying. Heheheh. However, you do have a better deal: since my eyelids are too short (horizontally) I cannot really make them fit better except perhaps to make contours more similar to the body. You, however, could shorten yours so that they do not overlap. Ever think of that?
jason
| strohausii | 10-16-2002 01:01 PM |
...well, i've got a bud that does the thermoplastic molding thing , he had told me that there is a certain amount of shrinkage in plastics (due to the heating/ cooling to form, pvc too), and the engineering accounts and adjusts for it....
Hope this helps to explain..:(
Hope this helps to explain..:(
| Kevex | 10-16-2002 06:09 PM |
even though it's cheap compare with the real ones, I think he still have the right to complain the sh#tty quality.
and who say you get what you pay for? I bought some super nice quality aero guard and lip both for a fraction of the real thing cost, I sold them, and both buyer are impressed by it's quality and price.
and who say you get what you pay for? I bought some super nice quality aero guard and lip both for a fraction of the real thing cost, I sold them, and both buyer are impressed by it's quality and price.
| MAD REX | 10-16-2002 08:24 PM |
That really sucks.
I'm glad I didn't get them like planned.
I'm glad I didn't get them like planned.
| chuckles | 10-17-2002 12:35 AM |
ok, key words; "replica" "cheap" what the hell did you expect. if you wanted just as good as the orriginal for half the price you are a crack whore (stupid). no person in their right mind buys a replica then complains because it's not as good as the original. take a step back and think about how dumb you sound. the rest of you agreeing with him are just as bad.
if you buy a cheap copy, you get a cheap copy!!
HELLO!
if you buy a cheap copy, you get a cheap copy!!
HELLO!
| Snowphun | 10-17-2002 09:29 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by chuckles [/i]
[B]ok, key words; "replica" "cheap" what the hell did you expect. if you wanted just as good as the orriginal for half the price you are a crack whore (stupid). no person in their right mind buys a replica then complains because it's not as good as the original. take a step back and think about how dumb you sound. the rest of you agreeing with him are just as bad.
if you buy a cheap copy, you get a cheap copy!!
HELLO! [/B][/QUOTE] Wow, could you be anymore condescending? :rolleyes: Lots of replicas are as good or nearly as good as the products they copy. To think you have to pay top brand name money to get a decent product is foolish. Note, I said "decent".
I don't see how you calling people stupid and dumb is going to get people to see your side of things.
Paul
[B]ok, key words; "replica" "cheap" what the hell did you expect. if you wanted just as good as the orriginal for half the price you are a crack whore (stupid). no person in their right mind buys a replica then complains because it's not as good as the original. take a step back and think about how dumb you sound. the rest of you agreeing with him are just as bad.
if you buy a cheap copy, you get a cheap copy!!
HELLO! [/B][/QUOTE] Wow, could you be anymore condescending? :rolleyes: Lots of replicas are as good or nearly as good as the products they copy. To think you have to pay top brand name money to get a decent product is foolish. Note, I said "decent".
I don't see how you calling people stupid and dumb is going to get people to see your side of things.
Paul
| MMBOOST | 10-17-2002 12:57 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by chuckles [/i]
[B]ok, key words; "replica" "cheap" what the hell did you expect. if you wanted just as good as the orriginal for half the price you are a crack whore (stupid). no person in their right mind buys a replica then complains because it's not as good as the original. take a step back and think about how dumb you sound. the rest of you agreeing with him are just as bad.
if you buy a cheap copy, you get a cheap copy!!
HELLO! [/B][/QUOTE]
Dear Idiot,
For your education, let's see what Mr. Merriam and Mr. Webster have to say about what "replica" means:
[color=red][size=3][b]Main Entry: rep·li·ca[/b][/size][/color]
Pronunciation: 're-pli-k&
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian, repetition, from replicare to repeat, from Late Latin, from Latin, to fold back -- more at REPLY
Date: 1824
1 :[color=red][size=3][b] an exact reproduction[/b][/size][/color] (as of a painting) executed by the original artist <a replica of this was painted... this year -- Constance Strachey>
And, as far as cheap: $30 vs. $80 has to do with the materials used in manufacturing, not the amount of carelessness involved. Making a mold for either $30 or $80 materials costs the same, takes the same amount of skill and the same amount of time. Its a matter of carelessness and [b]false advertising. I.e. you do NOT say "replica" when its not a replica, as the definition above states.[/b]
Didn't your mommy every tell you "If you don't have anything nice to say, shut your stupid, uneducated mouth" ?
jason
[B]ok, key words; "replica" "cheap" what the hell did you expect. if you wanted just as good as the orriginal for half the price you are a crack whore (stupid). no person in their right mind buys a replica then complains because it's not as good as the original. take a step back and think about how dumb you sound. the rest of you agreeing with him are just as bad.
if you buy a cheap copy, you get a cheap copy!!
HELLO! [/B][/QUOTE]
Dear Idiot,
For your education, let's see what Mr. Merriam and Mr. Webster have to say about what "replica" means:
[color=red][size=3][b]Main Entry: rep·li·ca[/b][/size][/color]
Pronunciation: 're-pli-k&
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian, repetition, from replicare to repeat, from Late Latin, from Latin, to fold back -- more at REPLY
Date: 1824
1 :[color=red][size=3][b] an exact reproduction[/b][/size][/color] (as of a painting) executed by the original artist <a replica of this was painted... this year -- Constance Strachey>
And, as far as cheap: $30 vs. $80 has to do with the materials used in manufacturing, not the amount of carelessness involved. Making a mold for either $30 or $80 materials costs the same, takes the same amount of skill and the same amount of time. Its a matter of carelessness and [b]false advertising. I.e. you do NOT say "replica" when its not a replica, as the definition above states.[/b]
Didn't your mommy every tell you "If you don't have anything nice to say, shut your stupid, uneducated mouth" ?
jason
| MMBOOST | 10-17-2002 01:06 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by strohausii [/i]
[B]...well, i've got a bud that does the thermoplastic molding thing , he had told me that there is a certain amount of shrinkage in plastics (due to the heating/ cooling to form, pvc too), and the engineering accounts and adjusts for it....
Hope this helps to explain..:( [/B][/QUOTE]
That might be the case... that the replica folks did not do the accounting and adjusting. Ah well, live and learn. The shop I got these from was very cool about it and was willing to let me return them for a full refund even though I had already painted them :eek: Who are these great guys? [url=http://www.gruppe-s.com]www.gruppe-s.com[/url] Even so, I'm gonna keep'em. Maybe I'll pull out the Dremel and do a bit of reshaping myself.
jason
[B]...well, i've got a bud that does the thermoplastic molding thing , he had told me that there is a certain amount of shrinkage in plastics (due to the heating/ cooling to form, pvc too), and the engineering accounts and adjusts for it....
Hope this helps to explain..:( [/B][/QUOTE]
That might be the case... that the replica folks did not do the accounting and adjusting. Ah well, live and learn. The shop I got these from was very cool about it and was willing to let me return them for a full refund even though I had already painted them :eek: Who are these great guys? [url=http://www.gruppe-s.com]www.gruppe-s.com[/url] Even so, I'm gonna keep'em. Maybe I'll pull out the Dremel and do a bit of reshaping myself.
jason
| Dori Dori | 10-17-2002 02:44 PM |
Did you know you can raise your hood? It should clear them if you do.
Also, I thought mine didn't fit either, but then I used velcro instead of tape and screwed around with them for a bit...to my amazement, they fit almost perfect.
The outer edge of your right one does look a little f'd though...
Also, I thought mine didn't fit either, but then I used velcro instead of tape and screwed around with them for a bit...to my amazement, they fit almost perfect.
The outer edge of your right one does look a little f'd though...
| sdecker | 10-17-2002 02:55 PM |
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by MMBOOST [/i]
[B]
Dear Idiot,
For your education, let's see what Mr. Merriam and Mr. Webster have to say about what "replica" means:
[color=red][size=3][b]Main Entry: rep·li·ca[/b][/size][/color]
Pronunciation: 're-pli-k&
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian, repetition, from replicare to repeat, from Late Latin, from Latin, to fold back -- more at REPLY
Date: 1824
1 :[color=red][size=3][b] an exact reproduction[/b][/size][/color] (as of a painting) executed by the original artist <a replica of this was painted... this year -- Constance Strachey>
And, as far as cheap: $30 vs. $80 has to do with the materials used in manufacturing, not the amount of carelessness involved. Making a mold for either $30 or $80 materials costs the same, takes the same amount of skill and the same amount of time. Its a matter of carelessness and [b]false advertising. I.e. you do NOT say "replica" when its not a replica, as the definition above states.[/b]
Didn't your mommy every tell you "If you don't have anything nice to say, shut your stupid, uneducated mouth" ?
jason [/B][/QUOTE]
ROFLMAO!!! :lol: :lol:
[B]
Dear Idiot,
For your education, let's see what Mr. Merriam and Mr. Webster have to say about what "replica" means:
[color=red][size=3][b]Main Entry: rep·li·ca[/b][/size][/color]
Pronunciation: 're-pli-k&
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian, repetition, from replicare to repeat, from Late Latin, from Latin, to fold back -- more at REPLY
Date: 1824
1 :[color=red][size=3][b] an exact reproduction[/b][/size][/color] (as of a painting) executed by the original artist <a replica of this was painted... this year -- Constance Strachey>
And, as far as cheap: $30 vs. $80 has to do with the materials used in manufacturing, not the amount of carelessness involved. Making a mold for either $30 or $80 materials costs the same, takes the same amount of skill and the same amount of time. Its a matter of carelessness and [b]false advertising. I.e. you do NOT say "replica" when its not a replica, as the definition above states.[/b]
Didn't your mommy every tell you "If you don't have anything nice to say, shut your stupid, uneducated mouth" ?
jason [/B][/QUOTE]
ROFLMAO!!! :lol: :lol:
| chuckles | 10-17-2002 03:10 PM |
i appologize if i've offended you jason, but I guess i'm tired of being the guy who isn't afraid to spend a little more for better quality.
If i was a cheap a-hole, who expected the moon for 30 bucks I'd prolly bitch too. I'm not tryin to start a fight, i'm just simply saying if you buy a fake you get a fake.
what you are saying in this thread is "the cheap version of the eyelids isn't as good as the expensive ones" well no ****. that's why it's cheap.
quit your bitchin it's givin me a headache.
If i was a cheap a-hole, who expected the moon for 30 bucks I'd prolly bitch too. I'm not tryin to start a fight, i'm just simply saying if you buy a fake you get a fake.
what you are saying in this thread is "the cheap version of the eyelids isn't as good as the expensive ones" well no ****. that's why it's cheap.
quit your bitchin it's givin me a headache.
| JC | 10-17-2002 03:41 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by MMBOOST [/i]
[B]Dear Idiot,
For your education, let's see what Mr. Merriam and Mr. Webster have to say about what "replica" means:
[color=red][size=3][b]Main Entry: rep·li·ca[/b][/size][/color]
Pronunciation: 're-pli-k&
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian, repetition, from replicare to repeat, from Late Latin, from Latin, to fold back -- more at REPLY
Date: 1824
1 :[color=red][size=3][b] an exact reproduction[/b][/size][/color] (as of a painting) executed by the original artist <a replica of this was painted... this year -- Constance Strachey>
And, as far as cheap: $30 vs. $80 has to do with the materials used in manufacturing, not the amount of carelessness involved. Making a mold for either $30 or $80 materials costs the same, takes the same amount of skill and the same amount of time. Its a matter of carelessness and [b]false advertising. I.e. you do NOT say "replica" when its not a replica, as the definition above states.[/b]
Didn't your mommy every tell you "If you don't have anything nice to say, shut your stupid, uneducated mouth" ?
jason [/B][/QUOTE]
Do you even read your own posts or just go running your mouth?
Let's start with your topic sentence. "Do not get replica eyelids, and here's why" YOU used the word replica first. Now let's look at your quoted post. I like how you place emphasis on the exact reproduction but fail to highlight the by the original artist. Did JUN make these? NOPE. You have what is colloquially know as cheap rip-offs. Need a dictionary to help you with that one too? :lol:
I disagree about why they are cheaper too. I'd be willing to bet a lot of it has to do with manufacturing tolerances rather than materials. Quite frankly it's plastic, JUN doesn't use some exotic synthetic blend to my knowledge. They just make them with a better mold and with closer tolerances. The end result is a better product that costs more.
While I can appreciate your attempt to warn others about the quality of these, your post was obviously inflammatory. Basically you tried to take the cheap way and it didn't work. FINE, but don't bitch like it's some huge travesty. Frankly they make parts like this because some people don't care if it fits exactly. People that do buy real parts or make/modify their own.
JC
[B]Dear Idiot,
For your education, let's see what Mr. Merriam and Mr. Webster have to say about what "replica" means:
[color=red][size=3][b]Main Entry: rep·li·ca[/b][/size][/color]
Pronunciation: 're-pli-k&
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian, repetition, from replicare to repeat, from Late Latin, from Latin, to fold back -- more at REPLY
Date: 1824
1 :[color=red][size=3][b] an exact reproduction[/b][/size][/color] (as of a painting) executed by the original artist <a replica of this was painted... this year -- Constance Strachey>
And, as far as cheap: $30 vs. $80 has to do with the materials used in manufacturing, not the amount of carelessness involved. Making a mold for either $30 or $80 materials costs the same, takes the same amount of skill and the same amount of time. Its a matter of carelessness and [b]false advertising. I.e. you do NOT say "replica" when its not a replica, as the definition above states.[/b]
Didn't your mommy every tell you "If you don't have anything nice to say, shut your stupid, uneducated mouth" ?
jason [/B][/QUOTE]
Do you even read your own posts or just go running your mouth?
Let's start with your topic sentence. "Do not get replica eyelids, and here's why" YOU used the word replica first. Now let's look at your quoted post. I like how you place emphasis on the exact reproduction but fail to highlight the by the original artist. Did JUN make these? NOPE. You have what is colloquially know as cheap rip-offs. Need a dictionary to help you with that one too? :lol:
I disagree about why they are cheaper too. I'd be willing to bet a lot of it has to do with manufacturing tolerances rather than materials. Quite frankly it's plastic, JUN doesn't use some exotic synthetic blend to my knowledge. They just make them with a better mold and with closer tolerances. The end result is a better product that costs more.
While I can appreciate your attempt to warn others about the quality of these, your post was obviously inflammatory. Basically you tried to take the cheap way and it didn't work. FINE, but don't bitch like it's some huge travesty. Frankly they make parts like this because some people don't care if it fits exactly. People that do buy real parts or make/modify their own.
JC
| MMBOOST | 10-17-2002 03:53 PM |
[font=arial][size=8][color=red]You got [b][i]owned[/i][/b] chuckles. Go away.[/color][/size]
jason[/font]
jason[/font]
| MMBOOST | 10-17-2002 04:04 PM |
[i]Originally posted by JC [/i]
[b]
While I can appreciate your attempt to warn others about the quality of these, your post was obviously inflammatory. Basically you tried to take the cheap way and it didn't work. FINE, but don't bitch like it's some huge travesty. Frankly they make parts like this because some people don't care if it fits exactly. People that do buy real parts or make/modify their own.
JC
[/b]
JC,
If you appreciate my attempt to warn others, then you can appreciate that this thread was fine and had a bit of common commisseration until "chuckles" decided to shoot his mouth off, unwarranted and completely unecessary. The most rediculous part of your statement is that (after just reading back thru the whole thread) the only "bitching" or "inflammatory" thing is when I repsonded to people who, out of some sense of fatheadedness with no desire to be actually helpful, gave snotty remarks to me and others who've bought these things. I actually have not gone on and on about the eyelids, not ripping on the manufacturer or the retailer. The "flames" began with those who decided to wage war on my decisions to buy them in the first place. I suggest you do the same and read the whole thread if you want to then start flaming me :rolleyes:
Good rule of thumb: if you don't like a thread, don't read it, don't subscribe to it and if it doesn't affect you at all other than burns your eyes due to your own decision to read it... [b][i] don't respond to it[/i][/b]
jason
[b]
While I can appreciate your attempt to warn others about the quality of these, your post was obviously inflammatory. Basically you tried to take the cheap way and it didn't work. FINE, but don't bitch like it's some huge travesty. Frankly they make parts like this because some people don't care if it fits exactly. People that do buy real parts or make/modify their own.
JC
[/b]
JC,
If you appreciate my attempt to warn others, then you can appreciate that this thread was fine and had a bit of common commisseration until "chuckles" decided to shoot his mouth off, unwarranted and completely unecessary. The most rediculous part of your statement is that (after just reading back thru the whole thread) the only "bitching" or "inflammatory" thing is when I repsonded to people who, out of some sense of fatheadedness with no desire to be actually helpful, gave snotty remarks to me and others who've bought these things. I actually have not gone on and on about the eyelids, not ripping on the manufacturer or the retailer. The "flames" began with those who decided to wage war on my decisions to buy them in the first place. I suggest you do the same and read the whole thread if you want to then start flaming me :rolleyes:
Good rule of thumb: if you don't like a thread, don't read it, don't subscribe to it and if it doesn't affect you at all other than burns your eyes due to your own decision to read it... [b][i] don't respond to it[/i][/b]
jason
| JC | 10-17-2002 04:18 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by MMBOOST [/i]
[B]JC,
If you appreciate my attempt to warn others, then you can appreciate that this thread was fine and had a bit of common commisseration until "chuckles" decided to shoot his mouth off, unwarranted and completely unecessary.
Good rule of thumb: if you don't like a thread, don't read it, don't subscribe to it and if it doesn't affect you at all other than burns your eyes due to your own decision to read it... [b][i] don't respond to it[/i][/b]
jason [/B][/QUOTE]
You're missing the point. You set the tone of this thread. You made a sweeping statement and didn't do so with a great amount of eloquence. People kind to respond to things in kind. You shouldn't start slinging mud and complain when you get dirty.
As to your second "point," quite frankly shut up. I never complained about your thread, said you shouldn't have posted it, nor called for it to be deleted. You're really reaching here.
JC
[B]JC,
If you appreciate my attempt to warn others, then you can appreciate that this thread was fine and had a bit of common commisseration until "chuckles" decided to shoot his mouth off, unwarranted and completely unecessary.
Good rule of thumb: if you don't like a thread, don't read it, don't subscribe to it and if it doesn't affect you at all other than burns your eyes due to your own decision to read it... [b][i] don't respond to it[/i][/b]
jason [/B][/QUOTE]
You're missing the point. You set the tone of this thread. You made a sweeping statement and didn't do so with a great amount of eloquence. People kind to respond to things in kind. You shouldn't start slinging mud and complain when you get dirty.
As to your second "point," quite frankly shut up. I never complained about your thread, said you shouldn't have posted it, nor called for it to be deleted. You're really reaching here.
JC
| JC | 10-17-2002 04:22 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by MMBOOST [/i]
[B]JC,
If you appreciate my attempt to warn others, then you can appreciate that this thread was fine and had a bit of common commisseration until "chuckles" decided to shoot his mouth off, unwarranted and completely unecessary. The most rediculous part of your statement is that (after just reading back thru the whole thread) the only "bitching" or "inflammatory" thing is when I repsonded to people who, out of some sense of fatheadedness with no desire to be actually helpful, gave snotty remarks to me and others who've bought these things. I actually have not gone on and on about the eyelids, not ripping on the manufacturer or the retailer. The "flames" began with those who decided to wage war on my decisions to buy them in the first place. I suggest you do the same and read the whole thread if you want to then start flaming me :rolleyes:
jason [/B][/QUOTE]
NO, the flames began with you. I suggest you read the thread again. Paul G., made a statement about his personal experience and you responded with a personal attack.
JC
[B]JC,
If you appreciate my attempt to warn others, then you can appreciate that this thread was fine and had a bit of common commisseration until "chuckles" decided to shoot his mouth off, unwarranted and completely unecessary. The most rediculous part of your statement is that (after just reading back thru the whole thread) the only "bitching" or "inflammatory" thing is when I repsonded to people who, out of some sense of fatheadedness with no desire to be actually helpful, gave snotty remarks to me and others who've bought these things. I actually have not gone on and on about the eyelids, not ripping on the manufacturer or the retailer. The "flames" began with those who decided to wage war on my decisions to buy them in the first place. I suggest you do the same and read the whole thread if you want to then start flaming me :rolleyes:
jason [/B][/QUOTE]
NO, the flames began with you. I suggest you read the thread again. Paul G., made a statement about his personal experience and you responded with a personal attack.
JC
| MMBOOST | 10-17-2002 05:31 PM |
OK let me rephrase then.... chuckles didnt start it Paul G.
JC, really, what is helpful in saying "what did you expect?!" What's the point in saying "no offense" when you go ahead and belittle someone's judgement anyway after I have only said, efffectively, "Look at what I did and see how bad it is". When my only desire was to be helpful.
That's what happened: all i effectively said was "I bought these and they suck, don't buy them". And 5 or 6 people said "Duh, why did you do that in the first place, what did you expect?". I said nothing about expectations. All I did was give a polite warning and these folks feel the need to go on about it.
If there actually is a good reason to say anything like "what did you expect?!" perhaps something more polite, that might even show concern would be: "Wow, for that price I would've been more cautious" or "Yeah I've tried to go that route before and been burned" or maybe something about cheap plastic like strohausii said. What is good or useful in saying "what did you expect?!", why not just complete the thought "what did you expect, idiot?!", as chuckles, having larger balls than some of the others, did.
And again I will point out:
[b]Good rule of thumb: if you don't like a thread, don't read it, don't subscribe to it and if it doesn't affect you at all other than burns your eyes due to your own decision to read it... [i]don't respond to it[/i][/b]
You don't like my posting, you don't like the thread I started, you dont like me, you don't like my reasoning... I'm certainly not going to take your advice since your only motive is to attack me. So why bother? Geez, go start your own thread, ripping on me if you wish. I promise I won't contribute to it.
[size=5][b]This is completely idiotic and this thread is so hijacked by people who couldn't careless about the acutal subject. JC, chuckles and whoever else feels the need to give their unneeded and unhelpful two cents about the aftermath of a bad purchase, go ahead all you like. I'm done with this thread since it no longer serves any purpose let alone its intended one: [i]to be helpful and useful[/i].
However, I will not let it stop me from being helpful in the future and will continue to post positive and negative tuning experiences so that others can avoid mishaps, discovered through my own attempts to take a plunge and pioneer. I'll just be better at ignoring the useless comments[/b][/size]
jason
JC, really, what is helpful in saying "what did you expect?!" What's the point in saying "no offense" when you go ahead and belittle someone's judgement anyway after I have only said, efffectively, "Look at what I did and see how bad it is". When my only desire was to be helpful.
That's what happened: all i effectively said was "I bought these and they suck, don't buy them". And 5 or 6 people said "Duh, why did you do that in the first place, what did you expect?". I said nothing about expectations. All I did was give a polite warning and these folks feel the need to go on about it.
If there actually is a good reason to say anything like "what did you expect?!" perhaps something more polite, that might even show concern would be: "Wow, for that price I would've been more cautious" or "Yeah I've tried to go that route before and been burned" or maybe something about cheap plastic like strohausii said. What is good or useful in saying "what did you expect?!", why not just complete the thought "what did you expect, idiot?!", as chuckles, having larger balls than some of the others, did.
And again I will point out:
[b]Good rule of thumb: if you don't like a thread, don't read it, don't subscribe to it and if it doesn't affect you at all other than burns your eyes due to your own decision to read it... [i]don't respond to it[/i][/b]
You don't like my posting, you don't like the thread I started, you dont like me, you don't like my reasoning... I'm certainly not going to take your advice since your only motive is to attack me. So why bother? Geez, go start your own thread, ripping on me if you wish. I promise I won't contribute to it.
[size=5][b]This is completely idiotic and this thread is so hijacked by people who couldn't careless about the acutal subject. JC, chuckles and whoever else feels the need to give their unneeded and unhelpful two cents about the aftermath of a bad purchase, go ahead all you like. I'm done with this thread since it no longer serves any purpose let alone its intended one: [i]to be helpful and useful[/i].
However, I will not let it stop me from being helpful in the future and will continue to post positive and negative tuning experiences so that others can avoid mishaps, discovered through my own attempts to take a plunge and pioneer. I'll just be better at ignoring the useless comments[/b][/size]
jason
| JC | 10-18-2002 12:37 AM |
Damn, I can't believe I wasted my time reading that drivel. Whatever man, complain about whatever you want.
JC
JC
| theraven | 10-18-2002 09:02 AM |
Don't worry mmboost, some of us appreciate your post. Thanks for the warning and the pics since I am sure there are some people considering getting replica 'lids that would think twice if they saw how bad those fit.
| chuckles | 10-18-2002 09:08 AM |
hrm... why is it that the only people who find this helpful have member #'s above 10,000?
i was owned? what are you, 12? you buy cheap copys and bitch about quality, do you think i give a rats ass what you think about me?
<-----done with this thread
i was owned? what are you, 12? you buy cheap copys and bitch about quality, do you think i give a rats ass what you think about me?
<-----done with this thread
| strohausii | 10-18-2002 09:42 AM |
...lol, huh just to solidify my last post regarding the shrinkage in thermoplastics. What i left out was what i believed to be the problem with the differring "fits" of the original Juns vs. the "knockoffs (better nomoclature?)". The problem of the very cheap ones is in if when making the mold and they may be directly shaped from the originals....with no correction for shrinkage...there would be the misizing. So, in conclusion (blah) don't build your car like the space shuttle (10,000 moving parts built by the lowest bidder --armageddon)?
eh
eh
| desiwrx02 | 10-18-2002 03:19 PM |
Mine look fine.
Ajay
Ajay
| MMBOOST | 10-18-2002 05:26 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by desiwrx02 [/i]
[B]Mine look fine.
Ajay [/B][/QUOTE]
Ajay,
where'd you get them? (which shop?). Do you know who the manufacturer is or can you ask the shop? Those answers would be much appreciated!
thanx,
jason
[B]Mine look fine.
Ajay [/B][/QUOTE]
Ajay,
where'd you get them? (which shop?). Do you know who the manufacturer is or can you ask the shop? Those answers would be much appreciated!
thanx,
jason
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