| BROKENWRX | 06-09-2006 07:29 PM |
F1 perished heroes
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This put things in to perspective. Not for the faint hearted.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORs-8GT6SMU&search=f1%20perished%20heroes[/url]
Well here is the 1984 season review with the dominant Mclarens of Alain Prost and Nikki Lauda. This is turbo era footage and as such, many engine failures
[url]http://www.hotperthcars.net/Summoner/videos/XXXX-XX-XX%20-%20misc%20vids/F1/Formula1.1984.Two.till.the.end/The.Official.Review.Of.The.1984.FIA.Formula.One.World.Championship.Xivd.avi[/url]
Jamie
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORs-8GT6SMU&search=f1%20perished%20heroes[/url]
Well here is the 1984 season review with the dominant Mclarens of Alain Prost and Nikki Lauda. This is turbo era footage and as such, many engine failures
[url]http://www.hotperthcars.net/Summoner/videos/XXXX-XX-XX%20-%20misc%20vids/F1/Formula1.1984.Two.till.the.end/The.Official.Review.Of.The.1984.FIA.Formula.One.World.Championship.Xivd.avi[/url]
Jamie
| pio!pio! | 06-09-2006 09:42 PM |
holy open directory...look at all those sweet vids
[url="http://www.hotperthcars.net/Summoner/videos/XXXX-XX-XX%20-%20misc%20vids/"]http://www.hotperthcars.net/Summoner/videos/XXXX-XX-XX%20-%20misc%20vids/[/url]
[url="http://www.hotperthcars.net/Summoner/videos/XXXX-XX-XX%20-%20misc%20vids/"]http://www.hotperthcars.net/Summoner/videos/XXXX-XX-XX%20-%20misc%20vids/[/url]
| silentbob343 | 06-09-2006 10:01 PM |
[QUOTE=pio!pio!]holy open directory...look at all those sweet vids
[url="http://www.hotperthcars.net/Summoner/videos/XXXX-XX-XX%20-%20misc%20vids/"]http://www.hotperthcars.net/Summoner/videos/XXXX-XX-XX%20-%20misc%20vids/[/url][/QUOTE]
nice, too bad the speed isn't all that great.
[url="http://www.hotperthcars.net/Summoner/videos/XXXX-XX-XX%20-%20misc%20vids/"]http://www.hotperthcars.net/Summoner/videos/XXXX-XX-XX%20-%20misc%20vids/[/url][/QUOTE]
nice, too bad the speed isn't all that great.
| Rasmusson14 | 06-09-2006 10:04 PM |
There are no words for that footage :(
| Cyclops | 06-09-2006 10:16 PM |
So sad when the guys trying to get the fire out and no one will help him. I'd feel horrible.
| mykrrrr | 06-09-2006 10:28 PM |
[QUOTE=BROKENWRX]This put things in to perspective. Not for the faint hearted.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORs-8GT6SMU&search=f1%20perished%20heroes[/url]
Well here is the 1984 season review with the dominant Mclarens of Alain Prost and Nikki Lauda. This is turbo era footage and as such, many engine failures
[url]http://www.hotperthcars.net/Summoner/videos/XXXX-XX-XX%20-%20misc%20vids/F1/Formula1.1984.Two.till.the.end/The.Official.Review.Of.The.1984.FIA.Formula.One.World.Championship.Xivd.avi[/url]
Jamie[/QUOTE]
Damn that was a really sad video. :(
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORs-8GT6SMU&search=f1%20perished%20heroes[/url]
Well here is the 1984 season review with the dominant Mclarens of Alain Prost and Nikki Lauda. This is turbo era footage and as such, many engine failures
[url]http://www.hotperthcars.net/Summoner/videos/XXXX-XX-XX%20-%20misc%20vids/F1/Formula1.1984.Two.till.the.end/The.Official.Review.Of.The.1984.FIA.Formula.One.World.Championship.Xivd.avi[/url]
Jamie[/QUOTE]
Damn that was a really sad video. :(
| StuBeck | 06-09-2006 10:47 PM |
I honestly don't know why I watched that, but it is good to know how quickly it can go completely and horribly wrong. Bandinni's accident was horrific, the car just exploded.
| wvallwheeldrive | 06-09-2006 10:52 PM |
that puts a lot of things the FIA does for safety into perspective
| bknblk | 06-09-2006 11:00 PM |
You need to seek help if the footage where (infering from the comments, I diddn't know) David Purlen stopped and ran up to Roger Williams car and tried to turn it over didn't fill you with empathy... I can't imagine. A man like that should be elected president of everything.
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| ghschirtz | 06-09-2006 11:09 PM |
Yah, I have been kind of rolling around after watching the video late this afternoon with it in the back of my mind.
Bandini was a really good guy. I recall he was under heavy pressure at Ferrari as (I think Surtees, a better driver) had left that season. He was seen to be losing his concentration before the accident, probably due to fatigue, making the Ferrari do what it really didn't want to. A little too wide out of the tunnel and bam. He might not have survived but the second fire started when a news helicopter came hovering down for better pictures. The downdraft lit off the car and Bandini, soacked with fuel a second time, and all the workers ran away. He was able to take his last rites by blinking his eyes.
Rindt probably did not have to die. For some reason, he was taken by ambulance into the city rather than to the hospital at the track, where they also had a helo. He died as his lungs filled with his blood. Someone should have been shot for that.
Donohue also may have survived if given immediate attention. Nobody did anything until he started going in and out of consciousness. By the time they really started working on him, the cerebral bleeding was too far along. A great man, and after coming out of retirement, too. The ending of his book "The Unfair Advantage" is incredibly sad, as he talks about returning to driving and maybe having another story to tell.
They missed Pedro Rodriguez, among others. He died at the Nurburgring (I recall) driving a Ferrari 512 that wasn't maintained enough. At the time he was leading a comeback for BRM in F1. Then Jo Siffert was killed, and that kind of spelled the end for BRM.
Peter Revson is missing, also. I recall he was killed at Kyalami in South Africa, a practice accident, while with the Shadow team. Their effort faltered afterward, also. Revson was not well liked due to his moneyed status, but in the end he got to his goal, being good enough that he was hired to drive, not buying rides.
So many good people-wild, analytical, disciplned, romantic, doing what they really wanted to do and keep doing, no death wishes here. The human animal can do incredible things sometimes, in all kinds of venues. Joyful and sad at the same time.
Those guys, not so much Senna and later, were my childhood heroes. Rest in peace, you guys.
George
Bandini was a really good guy. I recall he was under heavy pressure at Ferrari as (I think Surtees, a better driver) had left that season. He was seen to be losing his concentration before the accident, probably due to fatigue, making the Ferrari do what it really didn't want to. A little too wide out of the tunnel and bam. He might not have survived but the second fire started when a news helicopter came hovering down for better pictures. The downdraft lit off the car and Bandini, soacked with fuel a second time, and all the workers ran away. He was able to take his last rites by blinking his eyes.
Rindt probably did not have to die. For some reason, he was taken by ambulance into the city rather than to the hospital at the track, where they also had a helo. He died as his lungs filled with his blood. Someone should have been shot for that.
Donohue also may have survived if given immediate attention. Nobody did anything until he started going in and out of consciousness. By the time they really started working on him, the cerebral bleeding was too far along. A great man, and after coming out of retirement, too. The ending of his book "The Unfair Advantage" is incredibly sad, as he talks about returning to driving and maybe having another story to tell.
They missed Pedro Rodriguez, among others. He died at the Nurburgring (I recall) driving a Ferrari 512 that wasn't maintained enough. At the time he was leading a comeback for BRM in F1. Then Jo Siffert was killed, and that kind of spelled the end for BRM.
Peter Revson is missing, also. I recall he was killed at Kyalami in South Africa, a practice accident, while with the Shadow team. Their effort faltered afterward, also. Revson was not well liked due to his moneyed status, but in the end he got to his goal, being good enough that he was hired to drive, not buying rides.
So many good people-wild, analytical, disciplned, romantic, doing what they really wanted to do and keep doing, no death wishes here. The human animal can do incredible things sometimes, in all kinds of venues. Joyful and sad at the same time.
Those guys, not so much Senna and later, were my childhood heroes. Rest in peace, you guys.
George
| pittspilot | 06-09-2006 11:13 PM |
My first F1 GP was the year Pryce died. I was very young and only remember snatches, but my Dad remembers it well.
We always sat at Crowthorne which is right where Pryce's body ended up. He died on the main straight when he hit the marshall. The Marshall was carrying a fire extinguisher which hit Pryce in the helmet killing him instantly.
The weird thing was that no one sitting in the stands at Crowthorne knew what had happened over the hill. Pryces car came down the straight, hit the wall and ended up in the catch fences directly in front of the stands. It looked like a non-event. Until a corner marshall walked over to the car. looked in, and turned away in horror.
We always sat at Crowthorne which is right where Pryce's body ended up. He died on the main straight when he hit the marshall. The Marshall was carrying a fire extinguisher which hit Pryce in the helmet killing him instantly.
The weird thing was that no one sitting in the stands at Crowthorne knew what had happened over the hill. Pryces car came down the straight, hit the wall and ended up in the catch fences directly in front of the stands. It looked like a non-event. Until a corner marshall walked over to the car. looked in, and turned away in horror.
| Cyclops | 06-09-2006 11:19 PM |
[QUOTE=pittspilot]My first F1 GP was the year Pryce died. I was very young and only remember snatches, but my Dad remembers it well.
We always sat at Crowthorne which is right where Pryce's body ended up. He died on the main straight when he hit the marshall. The Marshall was carrying a fire extinguisher which hit Pryce in the helmet killing him instantly.
The weird thing was that no one sitting in the stands at Crowthorne knew what had happened over the hill. Pryces car came down the straight, hit the wall and ended up in the catch fences directly in front of the stands. It looked like a non-event. Until a corner marshall walked over to the car. looked in, and turned away in horror.[/QUOTE] Jesus I didn't even realize that part of it. 2 horrific deaths in an instant. I thought that guy getting hit by the car was harsh enough, but to be killed himself? Wow.
We always sat at Crowthorne which is right where Pryce's body ended up. He died on the main straight when he hit the marshall. The Marshall was carrying a fire extinguisher which hit Pryce in the helmet killing him instantly.
The weird thing was that no one sitting in the stands at Crowthorne knew what had happened over the hill. Pryces car came down the straight, hit the wall and ended up in the catch fences directly in front of the stands. It looked like a non-event. Until a corner marshall walked over to the car. looked in, and turned away in horror.[/QUOTE] Jesus I didn't even realize that part of it. 2 horrific deaths in an instant. I thought that guy getting hit by the car was harsh enough, but to be killed himself? Wow.
| Phil Jr. | 06-09-2006 11:38 PM |
that first marshall almost got it too, i dont think they even reliazed how fast those cars were approaching, one instant they are a dot on the horizon, the next they are on top of you.
So sad watching Purlen try to turn that car over, the marshalls knew nothing could be done but he was desperate.
for some other good F1 vids check out:
[url]www.f1archives.com[/url]
they have a ton of good stuff on senna and late 80s/90s F1. Awsome in car footage.
So sad watching Purlen try to turn that car over, the marshalls knew nothing could be done but he was desperate.
for some other good F1 vids check out:
[url]www.f1archives.com[/url]
they have a ton of good stuff on senna and late 80s/90s F1. Awsome in car footage.
| Ferg | 06-09-2006 11:56 PM |
"Sometimes you get away with it. Sometimes it costs you." ~Mario Andretti
Wow, powerful video. Part of me is regretting having watched that, especially on a race wekend.
I can't believe some of the comments from YouTube members...so heartless. :(
Wow, powerful video. Part of me is regretting having watched that, especially on a race wekend.
I can't believe some of the comments from YouTube members...so heartless. :(
| Bonzo | 06-10-2006 12:09 AM |
I hate watching crashes.
I got to 2:59 and stopped.
I got to 2:59 and stopped.
| XenoWolf | 06-10-2006 01:05 AM |
[QUOTE=bknblk]You need to seek help if the footage where (infering from the comments, I diddn't know) David Purlen stopped and ran up to Roger Williams car and tried to turn it over didn't fill you with empathy... I can't imagine. A man like that should be elected president of everything.
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That one almost had me in tears, seriously. Stuff like this always puts the sport into perspective for me.
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That one almost had me in tears, seriously. Stuff like this always puts the sport into perspective for me.
| eddie1982 | 06-10-2006 01:12 AM |
sucks hate seeing that
| STirocket | 06-10-2006 04:16 AM |
It makes me sad too, but you've got to remember that these drivers are doing what they love, and they know better than anyone what the risks are. They would probably prefer to die that way rather than of old age in a hospital bed...
Rocket's two cents.
Rocket's two cents.
| bitterWRX | 06-10-2006 04:33 AM |
:( :( :(
That video did not make my day.
That video did not make my day.
| JZ oo7 | 06-10-2006 05:12 AM |
so many idiots posting comments on youtube just makes me sad.
it's sad to see so many lost, but on the other hand we can see how much safer F1 is now.
it's sad to see so many lost, but on the other hand we can see how much safer F1 is now.
| crzyjulius | 06-10-2006 05:31 AM |
I hate the youtube idiots!! no respect!! Such a good and sad video!! It really opens up your eyes!
| pittspilot | 06-10-2006 12:46 PM |
[QUOTE=Phil Jr.]that first marshall almost got it too, i dont think they even reliazed how fast those cars were approaching, one instant they are a dot on the horizon, the next they are on top of you.
So sad watching Purlen try to turn that car over, the marshalls knew nothing could be done but he was desperate.
for some other good F1 vids check out:
[url]www.f1archives.com[/url][/QUOTE]
This is Kyamami's setup at that time
[IMG]http://www.etracksonline.co.uk/Africa/kyalami61_map.gif[/IMG]
The map does not capture the elevation changes. You can see that Kyalami had a long straight. It was uphill through the kink, and would then be downhill from mid pit to Crowthorne. The cars would be easily cracking 200 MPH at the point Pryce hit that marshall.
Revson died between BBQ and Jukskei.
So sad watching Purlen try to turn that car over, the marshalls knew nothing could be done but he was desperate.
for some other good F1 vids check out:
[url]www.f1archives.com[/url][/QUOTE]
This is Kyamami's setup at that time
[IMG]http://www.etracksonline.co.uk/Africa/kyalami61_map.gif[/IMG]
The map does not capture the elevation changes. You can see that Kyalami had a long straight. It was uphill through the kink, and would then be downhill from mid pit to Crowthorne. The cars would be easily cracking 200 MPH at the point Pryce hit that marshall.
Revson died between BBQ and Jukskei.
| ghschirtz | 06-10-2006 01:11 PM |
I was appalled at some comments on YouTube, especially the fellow who was accusing the drivers of killing spectators intentionally. Some people just don't get racing. I also figure that guy is one of the Green people who see humans (except their majestic selves) generally as a problem for the earth-or should I say the goddess Gaeia (sp?) who they worship. Change the area of interest and you have someone no more open-minded or tolerant than your average Nazi or Klansman.
I would like to put his head deep into his compost heap, but that would mean coming down to his level. Still, it is good to know such people are out there. They might hug trees but if you won't, they will kill you, or burn your house, or take other steps, legal or illegal to see their will be done. Nut cases don't all come from the right.
We all will die sometime. Long ago I had lunch with the B1B chief test pilot, Doug Benefield. Smart man, careful pilot, Test Pilot School graduate with lots of time. Killed in a testing accident less than a year later with one of the B1A prototypes. Simple error of not rebalancing the airplane by moving fuel forward after testing at high speed and moving the center of gravity of the airplane further and further aft by transferring fuel. They completed the test series, slowed down and moved the wings, and center of lift, forward. Airplane pitched up, stalled and they waited too long to eject, trying to recover, but that is a test pilot. Simple stuff can make really bad news. Scott Crossfield, the first man past Mach 2, and king of the X-15 program, was killed a couple of months ago, bad weather caught him in his Cessna.
Reckon on your own time coming, and make sure you tell those you love that it is so whenever you can. It might be your last chance. No need to be sad, though. You will live on at least inside those you touch as life goes on. Makes you want to make that touch a good thing, doesn't it? Does for me.
Enough. Today I will think about the great things these people did and the inspiration they are to press on regardless.
Cheers, y'all,
George
I would like to put his head deep into his compost heap, but that would mean coming down to his level. Still, it is good to know such people are out there. They might hug trees but if you won't, they will kill you, or burn your house, or take other steps, legal or illegal to see their will be done. Nut cases don't all come from the right.
We all will die sometime. Long ago I had lunch with the B1B chief test pilot, Doug Benefield. Smart man, careful pilot, Test Pilot School graduate with lots of time. Killed in a testing accident less than a year later with one of the B1A prototypes. Simple error of not rebalancing the airplane by moving fuel forward after testing at high speed and moving the center of gravity of the airplane further and further aft by transferring fuel. They completed the test series, slowed down and moved the wings, and center of lift, forward. Airplane pitched up, stalled and they waited too long to eject, trying to recover, but that is a test pilot. Simple stuff can make really bad news. Scott Crossfield, the first man past Mach 2, and king of the X-15 program, was killed a couple of months ago, bad weather caught him in his Cessna.
Reckon on your own time coming, and make sure you tell those you love that it is so whenever you can. It might be your last chance. No need to be sad, though. You will live on at least inside those you touch as life goes on. Makes you want to make that touch a good thing, doesn't it? Does for me.
Enough. Today I will think about the great things these people did and the inspiration they are to press on regardless.
Cheers, y'all,
George
| BROKENWRX | 06-10-2006 02:17 PM |
A day latter and I am still thinking of that video. Sad stuff, RIP.
Jamie
Jamie
| silentbob343 | 06-10-2006 02:31 PM |
[QUOTE=Phil Jr.]that first marshall almost got it too, i dont think they even reliazed how fast those cars were approaching, one instant they are a dot on the horizon, the next they are on top of you.
So sad watching Purlen try to turn that car over, the marshalls knew nothing could be done but he was desperate.
for some other good F1 vids check out:
[url]www.f1archives.com[/url]
they have a ton of good stuff on senna and late 80s/90s F1. Awsome in car footage.[/QUOTE]
It was a very sad to read these.
[url]http://www.asag.sk/bio/williamson.htm[/url]
"Worse, marshals with fire extinguishers merely watched as Purley fought a lone battle to right the upturned March. He could hear Williamson inside it. Roger pleaded with him to get him out. Time and again Purley tried to lift the car, but each time he failed. For two laps - at least 2m 47s -the fire was minimal, but then it grew dramatically in intensity. David tried to fight it after grabbing an extinguisher from one marshal, but by then the fire had too strong a hold.
As the marshals still remained immobile, appalled spectators began to try and help, unable to believe what they were seeing. Only then were marshals with police dogs galvanized into action, to keep them back. Finally, in the most callous act of cowardice ever seen in motor racing, they moved at last and tried to drag the desolate Purley away. He shrugged them off angrily.
Roger was uninjured in the cockpit, but they left him to die of asphyxiation. When they finally arrived, the fire trucks were far, far too late."
David Purley : Through his tears he said, "I just couldn't turn it over. I could see he was alive and I could hear him shouting, but I couldn't get the car over. I was trying to get people to help me, and if I could have turned the car over he would have been alright, we could have got him out."
Later, when the immediate grief had receded, he admitted, "I didn't even think about the heroism or any of that rubbish. I just did what comes naturally to a trained soldier who sees a fellow in trouble."
Ian Philips - journalist and friend : "Purley actually had a conversation with him. David was hying to turn him over and told me afterwards how Roger had said to him, For God's sake, David, get me out of here', and he just couldn't get him out. The circumstances were just appalling. Berger's thing at Imola in 1989 proved just how much things have changed over the years."
"Denny Hulme / Autosport : One of the problems may have been that the drivers were unaware of the seriousness of the accident; I certainly never knew that anyone was still in the burning car until after I had retired in the pits. When I came past the first time I saw the car on fire and David Purley brushing flames off himself and my initial reaction was that he had crashed and had managed to get out of the car OK, but when he was still there struggling two laps later I started to wonder. It never occurred to me that it was his car stopped on the other side of the road. I just presumed that there had been a two-car accident and that David had climbed out of the burning car, Initially the fire was small and the flame was low, blowing sideways as though a petrol line had severed and with the pump still on it was feeding flame out sideways like an acetylene torch. If Purley had had assistance as soon as he arrived, Roger could probably have been rescued. As it turned out, it was a complete disaster. The first truck took some eight minutes to arrive after driving round most of the track while the other truck stood 150 yards away and did nothing. I simply fail to understand it.
The Clerk of the Course at Zandvoort should have stopped the race as soon as he realised the seriousness of the crash. There was a fire tender standing 150 yards beyond the burning car, but it didn't move because the driver apparently had instructions not to drive the wrong way round the track. So a driver died."
So sad watching Purlen try to turn that car over, the marshalls knew nothing could be done but he was desperate.
for some other good F1 vids check out:
[url]www.f1archives.com[/url]
they have a ton of good stuff on senna and late 80s/90s F1. Awsome in car footage.[/QUOTE]
It was a very sad to read these.
[url]http://www.asag.sk/bio/williamson.htm[/url]
"Worse, marshals with fire extinguishers merely watched as Purley fought a lone battle to right the upturned March. He could hear Williamson inside it. Roger pleaded with him to get him out. Time and again Purley tried to lift the car, but each time he failed. For two laps - at least 2m 47s -the fire was minimal, but then it grew dramatically in intensity. David tried to fight it after grabbing an extinguisher from one marshal, but by then the fire had too strong a hold.
As the marshals still remained immobile, appalled spectators began to try and help, unable to believe what they were seeing. Only then were marshals with police dogs galvanized into action, to keep them back. Finally, in the most callous act of cowardice ever seen in motor racing, they moved at last and tried to drag the desolate Purley away. He shrugged them off angrily.
Roger was uninjured in the cockpit, but they left him to die of asphyxiation. When they finally arrived, the fire trucks were far, far too late."
David Purley : Through his tears he said, "I just couldn't turn it over. I could see he was alive and I could hear him shouting, but I couldn't get the car over. I was trying to get people to help me, and if I could have turned the car over he would have been alright, we could have got him out."
Later, when the immediate grief had receded, he admitted, "I didn't even think about the heroism or any of that rubbish. I just did what comes naturally to a trained soldier who sees a fellow in trouble."
Ian Philips - journalist and friend : "Purley actually had a conversation with him. David was hying to turn him over and told me afterwards how Roger had said to him, For God's sake, David, get me out of here', and he just couldn't get him out. The circumstances were just appalling. Berger's thing at Imola in 1989 proved just how much things have changed over the years."
"Denny Hulme / Autosport : One of the problems may have been that the drivers were unaware of the seriousness of the accident; I certainly never knew that anyone was still in the burning car until after I had retired in the pits. When I came past the first time I saw the car on fire and David Purley brushing flames off himself and my initial reaction was that he had crashed and had managed to get out of the car OK, but when he was still there struggling two laps later I started to wonder. It never occurred to me that it was his car stopped on the other side of the road. I just presumed that there had been a two-car accident and that David had climbed out of the burning car, Initially the fire was small and the flame was low, blowing sideways as though a petrol line had severed and with the pump still on it was feeding flame out sideways like an acetylene torch. If Purley had had assistance as soon as he arrived, Roger could probably have been rescued. As it turned out, it was a complete disaster. The first truck took some eight minutes to arrive after driving round most of the track while the other truck stood 150 yards away and did nothing. I simply fail to understand it.
The Clerk of the Course at Zandvoort should have stopped the race as soon as he realised the seriousness of the crash. There was a fire tender standing 150 yards beyond the burning car, but it didn't move because the driver apparently had instructions not to drive the wrong way round the track. So a driver died."
| JZ oo7 | 06-10-2006 02:52 PM |
it brings tears to my eyes when i saw the parts where you see the driver in the cockpit with their heads tilted down, motionless, and only held up by their belts.
| Tony117s | 06-10-2006 02:57 PM |
they forgot one of the greatest if not the greatest driver of all time, Jim Clark.
| OnTheGas | 06-10-2006 03:15 PM |
On The GPDA & David Purley As A Hero
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Thanks for posting this video, btw.
[quote][i]David Couthard[/i]
The role of the GPDA is for driver safety and track safety and not to be involved in political issues like stewards decisions.[/quote] Coulthard said this at Monaco 2 weeks ago in response to people who wanted to see the GPDA punish Michael for his MC qualifying stunt. The deadly history of F1, (and all motorsports), puts Coulthard's comments regarding the purpose of the Grand Prix Drivers Association in the proper perspective. I am very glad to see that the GPDA did not punish Michael, as the organization has a greater purpose.
BTW, it's David Purley who stopped his car in the middle of the the '73 Dutch GP @ Zandvoort to attemp to rescue fellow F1 driver, Roger Williamson. Williamson had suffered a suspension or tire failure, went off course, and the car got tossed back on to the course and slid down the track upside down and on fire. Thursday I had come across the [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Purley]brief Wikipedia.org article[/URL] on him, and followed the two links at the end of the article. Later David Purley survived a 179.8 G force crash at Silverstone in 1977. He was not the best driver, but he was a hero.
[quote][i]David Couthard[/i]
The role of the GPDA is for driver safety and track safety and not to be involved in political issues like stewards decisions.[/quote] Coulthard said this at Monaco 2 weeks ago in response to people who wanted to see the GPDA punish Michael for his MC qualifying stunt. The deadly history of F1, (and all motorsports), puts Coulthard's comments regarding the purpose of the Grand Prix Drivers Association in the proper perspective. I am very glad to see that the GPDA did not punish Michael, as the organization has a greater purpose.
BTW, it's David Purley who stopped his car in the middle of the the '73 Dutch GP @ Zandvoort to attemp to rescue fellow F1 driver, Roger Williamson. Williamson had suffered a suspension or tire failure, went off course, and the car got tossed back on to the course and slid down the track upside down and on fire. Thursday I had come across the [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Purley]brief Wikipedia.org article[/URL] on him, and followed the two links at the end of the article. Later David Purley survived a 179.8 G force crash at Silverstone in 1977. He was not the best driver, but he was a hero.
| roofis | 06-10-2006 03:37 PM |
Being someone kinda new to the f1 scene, and televised racing in general; throughout this video there were cars on fire with a handfull of guys spraying fire extinguishers all over the place, all at once. Nothing seemed to be happening, the fire just kept going strong. Is this....normal?
That was a really sad video but for any of us preparing for motorsports, or already in it, it's kinda one of those things we have to recognize, but not let get us down. Thanks for the post though.
That was a really sad video but for any of us preparing for motorsports, or already in it, it's kinda one of those things we have to recognize, but not let get us down. Thanks for the post though.
| Easy Rider | 06-10-2006 04:18 PM |
Sand and moving stuff. Thanks.
| MeetMrGlock | 06-10-2006 04:23 PM |
i've been skydiving for 32 years and i've witnessed my share of carnage. it's brought me to the conclusion that god snatches you up whenever he's good and ready.
thanks for posting this video.
thanks for posting this video.
| OnTheGas | 06-11-2006 04:17 PM |
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[QUOTE=roofis]Being someone kinda new to the f1 scene, ...throughout this video there were cars on fire with a handfull of guys spraying fire extinguishers all over the place, all at once. Nothing seemed to be happening, the fire just kept going strong. Is this....normal?[/QUOTE]Yes, unfortunately... gasoline fires are very dangerous... very fast flame fronts, and high heat, etc. It overwhelms the capabilities of some extinguishers and retardants.
Traditionally, the primary, underlying fear for a driver in motorsports has been fire, because things can go bad very quickly.
Traditionally, the primary, underlying fear for a driver in motorsports has been fire, because things can go bad very quickly.
| Phil Jr. | 06-11-2006 08:35 PM |
the older F1 cars didnt even run regular gasoline, they used a much more volatile mix. I remember reading about the types of fuels used but they have changed so often I cant remeber the specifics, anyone wanna comment?
| johnei | 06-11-2006 09:25 PM |
I've heard good things about Atlas F1 for general info about F1.
David Purley was awarded a George Medal for his attempts to save Williamson.
Jim Clark died in some F2 race at Hockenheim.
[url]http://www.atlasf1.com/99/bra/preview/horton.html[/url]
Photos of the Bandini crash off Fchat
(I wouldn't hyperlink these and they're copyrighted)
[url]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/bouboum/Ferrari%20sans%20copyright/Monoplace/312F1-67Monaco-Bandini-acc-14.jpg[/url]
[url]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/bouboum/Ferrari%20sans%20copyright/Monoplace/312F1-67Monaco-Bandini-acc-6.jpg[/url]
[url]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/bouboum/Ferrari%20sans%20copyright/Monoplace/312F1-67Monaco-Bandini-acc-11bb.jpg[/url]
Jo Schlesser died in the 1968 French GP driving a [b]Magnesium[/b] framed Honda RA302 when it crashed after a few laps and caught fire.
Piers Courage died driving a Williams De Tomaso at the 1970 Dutch GP after his car overturned and caught fire.
Too bad - lots of others never made it to F1
David Purley was awarded a George Medal for his attempts to save Williamson.
Jim Clark died in some F2 race at Hockenheim.
[url]http://www.atlasf1.com/99/bra/preview/horton.html[/url]
Photos of the Bandini crash off Fchat
(I wouldn't hyperlink these and they're copyrighted)
[url]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/bouboum/Ferrari%20sans%20copyright/Monoplace/312F1-67Monaco-Bandini-acc-14.jpg[/url]
[url]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/bouboum/Ferrari%20sans%20copyright/Monoplace/312F1-67Monaco-Bandini-acc-6.jpg[/url]
[url]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/bouboum/Ferrari%20sans%20copyright/Monoplace/312F1-67Monaco-Bandini-acc-11bb.jpg[/url]
Jo Schlesser died in the 1968 French GP driving a [b]Magnesium[/b] framed Honda RA302 when it crashed after a few laps and caught fire.
Piers Courage died driving a Williams De Tomaso at the 1970 Dutch GP after his car overturned and caught fire.
Too bad - lots of others never made it to F1
| REXLR8 | 06-11-2006 10:06 PM |
[QUOTE=roofis]Being someone kinda new to the f1 scene, and televised racing in general; throughout this video there were cars on fire with a handfull of guys spraying fire extinguishers all over the place, all at once. Nothing seemed to be happening, the fire just kept going strong. Is this....normal?
That was a really sad video but for any of us preparing for motorsports, or already in it, it's kinda one of those things we have to recognize, but not let get us down. Thanks for the post though.[/QUOTE]
sadly, yes it was pretty normal when they were using the fuels they did back in the day. being much before my generation ( im 21) i feel the drivers featured in the video are heroic for driving cars that were so fast, yet so unsafe, and i can always view these drivers as role models for myself. to me it seems like it takes not only massive amounts of skill to drive in forumula 1, but bravery as well, and veiwing this video makes you appreciate the cars of today and how far they have come with not only speed, but saftey.
That was a really sad video but for any of us preparing for motorsports, or already in it, it's kinda one of those things we have to recognize, but not let get us down. Thanks for the post though.[/QUOTE]
sadly, yes it was pretty normal when they were using the fuels they did back in the day. being much before my generation ( im 21) i feel the drivers featured in the video are heroic for driving cars that were so fast, yet so unsafe, and i can always view these drivers as role models for myself. to me it seems like it takes not only massive amounts of skill to drive in forumula 1, but bravery as well, and veiwing this video makes you appreciate the cars of today and how far they have come with not only speed, but saftey.
| Blk_on_Blk_Wgn | 06-12-2006 01:13 AM |
[QUOTE=XenoWolf]That one almost had me in tears, seriously. Stuff like this always puts the sport into perspective for me.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. the Williams footage was f***ing hard to watch..I wanted to help so badly..Purley was courageous to the enth degree.
that video was rough to say the least
Yeah. the Williams footage was f***ing hard to watch..I wanted to help so badly..Purley was courageous to the enth degree.
that video was rough to say the least
| So Cal STI | 06-12-2006 02:38 AM |
Very moving video. So many perished and it took so many years to change things. Some times a person is at a loss of words. Thanks for posting.
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