| toke513 | 08-11-2004 12:30 PM |
Firefighter Help
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Im a firefighter and Im putting a siren in my rex. The speaker is 5 inches by 5 inches by 2 inches deep. It fits right behind the grille, but will it abstruct the airflow to the radiator and cause the car to start to over heat? And instead of behind the grill I was thinking in the wheel well. I know that the intake is on the passengers side is there anything in the wheel well on the drivers side?? I know this is a wierd question, but I thank you all for your help.
Dave
Dave
| Spin4 | 08-11-2004 08:48 PM |
I dont' think it should be a problem. A lot of people run with hella supertones right behind the grille, me included, and they cover quite a bit of area. If it fits there go for it.
BTW too bad your rex isn't red
Spin4
BTW too bad your rex isn't red
Spin4
| Squad 27 | 08-11-2004 09:01 PM |
cool i'm not the only one here lol ;) :banana: :lol: we're not allowed to have sirens in jersey unless your a chief.... :mad: thats ok, my leds work fine for me ;)
| Mulder | 08-11-2004 09:06 PM |
FYI speedbuggy67 is also a firefighter, in Union NJ. Drop in to Tri-State sometime. :)
| toke513 | 08-11-2004 11:28 PM |
yeah top four guys can have sirens. Im putting in a whelen air horn, but I fiugred it would be eaiser to explain it that way. Yeah, my old 97 legacy was red, it was perfect. Thanks for the help guys.
| Fyrfytr | 08-12-2004 11:02 AM |
Why may I ask, are you putting a siren in your car? Do you really need a siren in your personal vehicle?
| GetRDone | 08-12-2004 11:11 AM |
[QUOTE=Fyrfytr]Why may I ask, are you putting a siren in your car? Do you really need a siren in your personal vehicle?[/QUOTE]
you are probably not a firefighter and hence have never tried getting to the house/on scene during traffic.
most people are dumb. lights seem to make them do the most ridiculous things. for some reason they feel the need to speed up, stop completely or just ignore them.
sirens are a very effective warning tool especially paired with some type of visual warning (i.e. wig-wags, dash light, strobes, et al.)
JC - WWVFC #1
you are probably not a firefighter and hence have never tried getting to the house/on scene during traffic.
most people are dumb. lights seem to make them do the most ridiculous things. for some reason they feel the need to speed up, stop completely or just ignore them.
sirens are a very effective warning tool especially paired with some type of visual warning (i.e. wig-wags, dash light, strobes, et al.)
JC - WWVFC #1
| Squad 27 | 08-12-2004 12:29 PM |
i'm a volly (volunteer) so I have to come from my house to the station, or from where ever I am to the station. People on cell phones don't see the lights, and people that don't see the front of my car think i'm speeding and carelessly passing people :devil: It would be nice to have a siren but I'm not a chief... yet. :lol: Also Toke513 said that only the top four guys at his station can have sirens, which means he's one of the top four, that means he's IMPORTANT enough to have one. :disco:
| GetRDone | 08-12-2004 02:17 PM |
[QUOTE=Squad 27]cool i'm not the only one here lol ;) we're not allowed to have sirens in jersey unless your a chief[/QUOTE]
that never stopped me. i had a siren for a while in my old car.
never got bothered about it either.
that never stopped me. i had a siren for a while in my old car.
never got bothered about it either.
| Perdue | 08-12-2004 06:10 PM |
I'm a volunteer fire fighter here, and I feel your pain as far as getting to a scene goes...it really sucks when you're hoppin along at 55 on that adrenaline rush, feeling that AWD under you, then some old ass wants to go 30 and you can't get by. I don't have my permits yet, so oh well. As far as the siren blocking air flow, I wouldn't think it'd be a problem. That's probably the optimal space for mounty one if you can fit it. I know guys from our station that mount them inside the engine bay...it echos like hell and you get way too much noise inside the car. Good luck man.
| fitoo | 08-12-2004 06:20 PM |
Props to you volunteers...I drive a firetruck to the scene and they still dont see or hear me. Ever thought of putting the siren were a FMIC would go? You could have it facing down, or backwards for that matter, they still aint gonna here you till you pass em...lol.
Seriously tho, you volunteers do a job most wouldnt do for pay....be careful.
Seriously tho, you volunteers do a job most wouldnt do for pay....be careful.
| Perdue | 08-12-2004 07:28 PM |
I do it and I love it ;)
As far as not being heard, according to the EVOC class they give here (I think it's universal nationwide), you outrun your siren at 40mph...maybe this is why you aren't being heard. Changing tones always helps too, as most people get used to the same tone coming up on them and don't realize what's happening until that airhorn blasts them in the ear. Also, Red is supposedly the least visable color during daylight hours, yet that's what we use on our ambulances and fire trucks...oh well...
Edit: Oh yeah...and nothing will ever beat a nice Q on the front of that engine :lol:
As far as not being heard, according to the EVOC class they give here (I think it's universal nationwide), you outrun your siren at 40mph...maybe this is why you aren't being heard. Changing tones always helps too, as most people get used to the same tone coming up on them and don't realize what's happening until that airhorn blasts them in the ear. Also, Red is supposedly the least visable color during daylight hours, yet that's what we use on our ambulances and fire trucks...oh well...
Edit: Oh yeah...and nothing will ever beat a nice Q on the front of that engine :lol:
| Mid-life Turbo | 08-12-2004 11:28 PM |
I have had fairly good luck with people getting out of my way, once I installed strobes. I am pretty sure they see a silver car with strobes in the mirror and think it is an unmarked highway patrol car, but that's not my problem, is it? :lol:
| fitoo | 08-13-2004 12:02 AM |
[QUOTE=Perdue]I do it and I love it ;)
As far as not being heard, according to the EVOC class they give here (I think it's universal nationwide), you outrun your siren at 40mph...maybe this is why you aren't being heard. Changing tones always helps too, as most people get used to the same tone coming up on them and don't realize what's happening until that airhorn blasts them in the ear. Also, Red is supposedly the least visable color during daylight hours, yet that's what we use on our ambulances and fire trucks...oh well...
Edit: Oh yeah...and nothing will ever beat a nice Q on the front of that engine :lol:[/QUOTE]
Youd think a que would get theyre attn, but it doesnt. cars are so well insulated these days... :furious:
As far as not being heard, according to the EVOC class they give here (I think it's universal nationwide), you outrun your siren at 40mph...maybe this is why you aren't being heard. Changing tones always helps too, as most people get used to the same tone coming up on them and don't realize what's happening until that airhorn blasts them in the ear. Also, Red is supposedly the least visable color during daylight hours, yet that's what we use on our ambulances and fire trucks...oh well...
Edit: Oh yeah...and nothing will ever beat a nice Q on the front of that engine :lol:[/QUOTE]
Youd think a que would get theyre attn, but it doesnt. cars are so well insulated these days... :furious:
| ChrisL2 | 08-13-2004 01:35 AM |
And the blasting stereo....loud exhausts. I always always keeped my window cracked (maybe 2-3") so I can hear sirens.
I've had numbnuts honk at me while waiting at an intersection for an emergency vehicle to clear it.
I've had numbnuts honk at me while waiting at an intersection for an emergency vehicle to clear it.
| toke513 | 08-13-2004 01:25 PM |
Wow guys, this is alot of great input!!! Yeah Ive been having alot of trouble getting people to move out of my way. I just switched to Whelen Super LEDs from my old strobe dashmeiser and lemme tell you the difference, especially during the day is amazing. I would recomend them to everyone. They are brighter, they take less power, and its only 1 inch tall and one inch deep, so I can fit it above the rear view mirror. Thanks again for everything.
Dave
Dave
| Perdue | 08-13-2004 09:22 PM |
We're about to buy a new rescue truck to replace our mini-pumper now. We're going for a Freighty FL-80 like our engine, but only with a 500 gallon tank and 1250 gallon pump. I'm trying to get them to put LEDs on it, but they won't listen to me. They're a load more visible in the daytime, but the older guys that are designing the truck want to stay with their halogen lightbars, which are cheaper, but I'd rather our department spend 700-1000 more to make us more visible. Oh well...wait til I'm an officer...I'll switch everything to LEDS :lol:
| toke513 | 08-14-2004 12:10 AM |
I love it. Your FD sounds kinda like mine. Were buying a new truck that is gonna cost upwards of $200,000 + but we dont wanna spend the extra $500 on importaint things like the warning system. I just dosnt make sense to me.
| Squad 27 | 08-14-2004 01:42 AM |
can't beat LED's but hey, vector bars are fun too.... haha
| thisisbrock | 08-14-2004 08:17 PM |
im on my to being a firefighter!!! then i can join the discussion, haha
| Mid-life Turbo | 08-14-2004 08:19 PM |
We are having an "issue" with the N.C. Highway Patrol regarding white LEDs on personal vehicles. The HP think that they look too blue. :mad:
| FryRice | 08-14-2004 08:40 PM |
Pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
| Hagwag02 | 08-15-2004 05:31 PM |
I'm not a fireman, but I do work for the Highway Department in Missouri. (Please do keep the language regarding my Mother and her procreativity, God bless her soul, to a minimum.) :) LOL
All we have had for years are amber rotators, but sensibility (along with technology) is beginning to take hold. We now are equipping our trucks with airhorns and amber strobes, top and rear. Most drivers see them, but have no idea what the lights mean. Some know what they mean, but don't care. Some are oblivious to a soldering iron pressed to their flesh.
Your lights and (new) siren may work for the majority of the drivers you encounter, but I can assure you that the high-decibel horn (air horn) will attract the attention of even the most dim-witted of drivers.
Best wishes!
All we have had for years are amber rotators, but sensibility (along with technology) is beginning to take hold. We now are equipping our trucks with airhorns and amber strobes, top and rear. Most drivers see them, but have no idea what the lights mean. Some know what they mean, but don't care. Some are oblivious to a soldering iron pressed to their flesh.
Your lights and (new) siren may work for the majority of the drivers you encounter, but I can assure you that the high-decibel horn (air horn) will attract the attention of even the most dim-witted of drivers.
Best wishes!
| Perdue | 08-15-2004 08:14 PM |
[QUOTE=thisisbrock]im on my to being a firefighter!!! then i can join the discussion, haha[/QUOTE]
***...doesn't your department require you to at least be able to think of a proper sentance? Doccumentation is key, and if you didn't write it down, it didn't happen...how's writing like that going to stand up in court? (probably the EMT inside) :lol:
The LEDs looking too much like blue is sort of BS, and sort of not BS. They do have a blue tint to them, but it doesn't look like a blue light. According to the fire marshall's office here in WV, we're only allowed to have flashing lights producing a red flash. Does that mean we're spending an extra $100 for red strobes to replace the clear hideaways in our POVs? Hell no.
As far as the LEDs not being used over the halogens, I think it just comes down to tradition in the fire service. I know that a lot of things do...a lot of fire helmets from other departments don't comply with NFPA standards, and it's just becuase of tradition. I'd much rather go with LEDS.
***...doesn't your department require you to at least be able to think of a proper sentance? Doccumentation is key, and if you didn't write it down, it didn't happen...how's writing like that going to stand up in court? (probably the EMT inside) :lol:
The LEDs looking too much like blue is sort of BS, and sort of not BS. They do have a blue tint to them, but it doesn't look like a blue light. According to the fire marshall's office here in WV, we're only allowed to have flashing lights producing a red flash. Does that mean we're spending an extra $100 for red strobes to replace the clear hideaways in our POVs? Hell no.
As far as the LEDs not being used over the halogens, I think it just comes down to tradition in the fire service. I know that a lot of things do...a lot of fire helmets from other departments don't comply with NFPA standards, and it's just becuase of tradition. I'd much rather go with LEDS.
| thisisbrock | 08-15-2004 08:31 PM |
[QUOTE][QUOTE=Perdue]***...doesn't your department require you to at least be able to think of a proper sentance? Doccumentation is key, and if you didn't write it down, it didn't happen...how's writing like that going to stand up in court? (probably the EMT inside) :lol: [/QUOTE]
what the hell are you talking aboutI? i for got a word, sorry....proper spelling works as well, for good documentation that is.
what the hell are you talking aboutI? i for got a word, sorry....proper spelling works as well, for good documentation that is.
| Squad 27 | 08-16-2004 01:51 AM |
[QUOTE]Your lights and (new) siren may work for the majority of the drivers you encounter, but I can assure you that the high-decibel horn (air horn) will attract the attention of even the most dim-witted of drivers.[/QUOTE] tell that to the dim-witted drivers... just yesterday we had two or three cars that wouldn't move, with the Q, the electric siren, and the airhorns. Some people just don't care.
pics...
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_17_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_18_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_19_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_20_full.jpg[/IMG]
no the last one isn't photochopped. :p In New Jersey firefighters have blue lights in personal cars, red lights are for fire chiefs, fire apparatus, police cars, and ambulances. Red or blue differs between states. Sorry about the thread hijacking, I'll go back to my corner and await questions lol.
pics...
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_17_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_18_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_19_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_20_full.jpg[/IMG]
no the last one isn't photochopped. :p In New Jersey firefighters have blue lights in personal cars, red lights are for fire chiefs, fire apparatus, police cars, and ambulances. Red or blue differs between states. Sorry about the thread hijacking, I'll go back to my corner and await questions lol.
| Perdue | 08-16-2004 04:21 PM |
I wish we could run blue lights :(
And brock, sorry about the typo, but you still understood, correct? Leaving out that one word made the sentance so that it couldn't be understood, IMO.
And brock, sorry about the typo, but you still understood, correct? Leaving out that one word made the sentance so that it couldn't be understood, IMO.
| FryRice | 08-16-2004 05:05 PM |
So when you turn your siren on you can speed?
| Perdue | 08-16-2004 06:35 PM |
It ain't that simple...
| ChrisL2 | 08-16-2004 06:54 PM |
Squad 27,
Doesn't that blue glare on the windshield cause problems at night? Or it isn't as bad as it looks in that picture.
Doesn't that blue glare on the windshield cause problems at night? Or it isn't as bad as it looks in that picture.
| Tim-E | 08-16-2004 10:11 PM |
Listen I siren is not theway to go,,, Your going to cause more confusion to that little old lady in front of you and probably cause more harm than good,,, If you are a volunteer than the light that you have is not a free pass to go blasting down the road,,,your going to get someone hurt with a siren,,, you REX is a car not a firetruck,,, we barely even use our sirens when I work,,, and it works fine for us,,,
Sorry but that my opnion,,, and its not my car,,,
Later On
-Me-
Sorry but that my opnion,,, and its not my car,,,
Later On
-Me-
| Hagwag02 | 08-16-2004 10:18 PM |
[QUOTE=Squad 27]tell that to the dim-witted drivers... just yesterday we had two or three cars that wouldn't move, with the Q, the electric siren, and the airhorns. Some people just don't care.
pics...
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_17_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_18_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_19_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_20_full.jpg[/IMG]
no the last one isn't photochopped. :p In New Jersey firefighters have blue lights in personal cars, red lights are for fire chiefs, fire apparatus, police cars, and ambulances. Red or blue differs between states. Sorry about the thread hijacking, I'll go back to my corner and await questions lol.[/QUOTE]
You are correct. Some people just don't care. My sympathies and support to all of you...
Awesome photos, by the way!!
pics...
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_17_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_18_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_19_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_20_full.jpg[/IMG]
no the last one isn't photochopped. :p In New Jersey firefighters have blue lights in personal cars, red lights are for fire chiefs, fire apparatus, police cars, and ambulances. Red or blue differs between states. Sorry about the thread hijacking, I'll go back to my corner and await questions lol.[/QUOTE]
You are correct. Some people just don't care. My sympathies and support to all of you...
Awesome photos, by the way!!
| Fyrfytr | 08-16-2004 10:58 PM |
[QUOTE=GetRDone]you are probably not a firefighter and hence have never tried getting to the house/on scene during traffic.
[/QUOTE]
....ok
I read your explanation.
We don't have home response here in Northern VA, and although most of the rural areas of VA do, it's illegal to have a siren on a personal vehicle here. Personally, I think that it's dangerous to have them on any vehicle that is not fully marked as an emergency response vehicle, or at the least doesn't have 360 warning light coverage.
FYI - I was a volly for almost 4 years, and have been a career firefighter in Northern Virginia for over 3 years. I grew up in the fire service, and have been a firefighter myself since I was 18.
-Greg
[/QUOTE]
....ok
I read your explanation.
We don't have home response here in Northern VA, and although most of the rural areas of VA do, it's illegal to have a siren on a personal vehicle here. Personally, I think that it's dangerous to have them on any vehicle that is not fully marked as an emergency response vehicle, or at the least doesn't have 360 warning light coverage.
FYI - I was a volly for almost 4 years, and have been a career firefighter in Northern Virginia for over 3 years. I grew up in the fire service, and have been a firefighter myself since I was 18.
-Greg
| toke513 | 08-17-2004 12:28 AM |
Here is my rex with whelen LED's. The pattern looks like it strobes, then both come on as seen in the pic. I just couldnt get the strobe with the digi camera. Although they may not look like much in person they are almost blinding. The taurus is my cousins and he is using wigwags. In CT vol fire have blue, execpt for cheif and dep cheif who have white and red (which unlike blue you have to pull over for). On thrusday my rear leds and a 100 watt airhorn will be installed!!!!!!
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/toke513/fire.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/toke513/fire.jpg[/IMG]
| Squad 27 | 08-17-2004 01:09 AM |
[QUOTE=ChrisL2]Squad 27,
Doesn't that blue glare on the windshield cause problems at night? Or it isn't as bad as it looks in that picture.[/QUOTE]
I try not to use it at night unless i have to, and if I do I can only see out of half of my windshield :rolleyes: :devil:
Toke513, thats teh hottness. Double banana for you. :banana: :banana:
[QUOTE=Fyrfytr]FYI - I was a volly for almost 4 years, and have been a career firefighter in Northern Virginia for over 3 years. I grew up in the fire service, and have been a firefighter myself since I was 18. [/QUOTE]
hehe I've hung out at the firehouse since I was little because my stepfather is a chief, I'd help out with parades and such, I've been a junior since i was 14 and a full member since i was 18, I went to fireschool when I was 17. Now i'll be 19 in two days :disco: I know that I don't know everything yet, but hey I'm on my way....
Doesn't that blue glare on the windshield cause problems at night? Or it isn't as bad as it looks in that picture.[/QUOTE]
I try not to use it at night unless i have to, and if I do I can only see out of half of my windshield :rolleyes: :devil:
Toke513, thats teh hottness. Double banana for you. :banana: :banana:
[QUOTE=Fyrfytr]FYI - I was a volly for almost 4 years, and have been a career firefighter in Northern Virginia for over 3 years. I grew up in the fire service, and have been a firefighter myself since I was 18. [/QUOTE]
hehe I've hung out at the firehouse since I was little because my stepfather is a chief, I'd help out with parades and such, I've been a junior since i was 14 and a full member since i was 18, I went to fireschool when I was 17. Now i'll be 19 in two days :disco: I know that I don't know everything yet, but hey I'm on my way....
| Samirr76 | 08-17-2004 09:27 AM |
[QUOTE=Perdue]I wish we could run blue lights :(
And brock, sorry about the typo, but you still understood, correct? Leaving out that one word made the sentance so that it couldn't be understood, IMO.[/QUOTE]
We'll give you a break since you're from West Virginia, thats an unfair handicap! Whats a "sentance"??
And brock, sorry about the typo, but you still understood, correct? Leaving out that one word made the sentance so that it couldn't be understood, IMO.[/QUOTE]
We'll give you a break since you're from West Virginia, thats an unfair handicap! Whats a "sentance"??
| toke513 | 08-18-2004 12:38 AM |
any of you guys have hide-a-ways, or leds in the grill, Im wondering how you like them and how they look.
| Squad 27 | 08-18-2004 10:23 AM |
I have some pictures of a WRX police car some guy did a while ago on these forums, it has LEDs in the grill and such... I'll post them here today once I get them hosted :devil:
| AJ711 | 08-18-2004 10:23 AM |
[QUOTE=Squad 27]I try not to use it at night unless i have to, and if I do I can only see out of half of my windshield :rolleyes: :devil:
[/QUOTE]
You might want to try attaching some rubber or something to the sides and bottom of the light that reach the windshield. That way, less light will be transmitted to places other than straight in front of your car at night.
It will help to reduce the glare. That, or try positioning the light closer to the windshield. I never had issues with my DeckBlaster strobe lights in my old truck when I was a volly back in NH.
Hopefully, my next job will allow me to live in an area with a volunteer department. :D
AJ
[/QUOTE]
You might want to try attaching some rubber or something to the sides and bottom of the light that reach the windshield. That way, less light will be transmitted to places other than straight in front of your car at night.
It will help to reduce the glare. That, or try positioning the light closer to the windshield. I never had issues with my DeckBlaster strobe lights in my old truck when I was a volly back in NH.
Hopefully, my next job will allow me to live in an area with a volunteer department. :D
AJ
| Squad 27 | 08-18-2004 10:47 AM |
midnx03, I had a shield for it in those pictures however my friend with a rather large bottom sat on it and broke it one day. I know it shouldn't have been off but i was working on the car and i took it down, Oh well lol.
heres those pics of the WRX police car (not actually a police car, i believe it was used for demos and such because the owner built police packaged vehicles.) Please correct me if i'm wrong...
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_51_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_52_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_53_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_54_full.jpg[/IMG]
I WANT THAT BADGE! :furious:
heres those pics of the WRX police car (not actually a police car, i believe it was used for demos and such because the owner built police packaged vehicles.) Please correct me if i'm wrong...
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_51_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_52_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_53_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/372000-372999/372015_54_full.jpg[/IMG]
I WANT THAT BADGE! :furious:
| toke513 | 08-18-2004 02:25 PM |
That is awesome!!!! Is that another led bar down in the lower grill? Looks great
| Perdue | 08-18-2004 04:49 PM |
a lot of the guys are using whelen strobes in their headlights and taillights. Usually, they're decently visable during the day, and if there's any fog at night, you can forget using them.
As for the West Virginia comment above...I can take a joke :lol:
As for the West Virginia comment above...I can take a joke :lol:
| scubajaz | 06-28-2005 10:51 PM |
Speaking of lights, I have a question. Maine (where I am a volly EMT) finally approved the use of wig wags on personal vehicles. My question arises here, can anyone recommend a wig wag set for my front and back lights that will work ell (Galls was not helpful, they only list outbacks and foresters). Much help would be appreciated.
| WRXRgr | 06-28-2005 11:14 PM |
[QUOTE=Squad 27]
no the last one isn't photochopped. :p In New Jersey firefighters have blue lights in personal cars, red lights are for fire chiefs, fire apparatus, police cars, and ambulances. Red or blue differs between states. Sorry about the thread hijacking, I'll go back to my corner and await questions lol.[/QUOTE]
Ouch!
Get some foam weatherstrip at Home Depot--seal that cup up and cut all that splash, that'll kill you some nite!
no the last one isn't photochopped. :p In New Jersey firefighters have blue lights in personal cars, red lights are for fire chiefs, fire apparatus, police cars, and ambulances. Red or blue differs between states. Sorry about the thread hijacking, I'll go back to my corner and await questions lol.[/QUOTE]
Ouch!
Get some foam weatherstrip at Home Depot--seal that cup up and cut all that splash, that'll kill you some nite!
| WRXRgr | 06-28-2005 11:18 PM |
[QUOTE=toke513]Im a firefighter and Im putting a siren in my rex. The speaker is 5 inches by 5 inches by 2 inches deep. It fits right behind the grille, but will it abstruct the airflow to the radiator and cause the car to start to over heat? And instead of behind the grill I was thinking in the wheel well. I know that the intake is on the passengers side is there anything in the wheel well on the drivers side?? I know this is a wierd question, but I thank you all for your help.
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Best place to mount it will be *upper* grille area, driver's side. Don't even think about the wheel well, the projection would be horrible.
You may find the "air horn" setting more effective than siren, etc.
The LEDs the guys are showing look nice, but I believe you'll find the wig-wags get much faster response.
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Best place to mount it will be *upper* grille area, driver's side. Don't even think about the wheel well, the projection would be horrible.
You may find the "air horn" setting more effective than siren, etc.
The LEDs the guys are showing look nice, but I believe you'll find the wig-wags get much faster response.
| scubajaz | 06-28-2005 11:30 PM |
[QUOTE=WRXRgr]Best place to mount it will be *upper* grille area, driver's side. Don't even think about the wheel well, the projection would be horrible.
You may find the "air horn" setting more effective than siren, etc.
The LEDs the guys are showing look nice, but I believe you'll find the wig-wags get much faster response.[/QUOTE]
How did you get your wig wags to work (what kit and how did you wire them). I'm trying to find a kit that will allow me to have one switch for front and rear wig wags and a dash LED.
You may find the "air horn" setting more effective than siren, etc.
The LEDs the guys are showing look nice, but I believe you'll find the wig-wags get much faster response.[/QUOTE]
How did you get your wig wags to work (what kit and how did you wire them). I'm trying to find a kit that will allow me to have one switch for front and rear wig wags and a dash LED.
| toke513 | 06-29-2005 05:14 PM |
There are two things that you have to look for, one a kit with daytime running light capabilities. The other thing that you have to look into is how our lights are wired. There are 2 systerms, a positive switch system and a ground side switched system. I was thinking about doing it for a while, but just never got around to it. good luck
| WRXRgr | 06-29-2005 08:01 PM |
[QUOTE=scubajaz]How did you get your wig wags to work (what kit and how did you wire them). I'm trying to find a kit that will allow me to have one switch for front and rear wig wags and a dash LED.[/QUOTE]
Whoa, no, I don't have *anything* mounted on my WRX...just telling ya the best possible arrangement there.
Having a single switch to run it all should be easy for an installer. Someone else mentioned a positive power switching for headlamps; there may be, but I suspect not...I know for sure that DRL function at least is totally based on ground switching, with + power applied to bulbs at all times. Dash panel illumination is the same...seems to be a Subaru quirk. If you pay someone to do the work, be sure to mention that.
Whoa, no, I don't have *anything* mounted on my WRX...just telling ya the best possible arrangement there.
Having a single switch to run it all should be easy for an installer. Someone else mentioned a positive power switching for headlamps; there may be, but I suspect not...I know for sure that DRL function at least is totally based on ground switching, with + power applied to bulbs at all times. Dash panel illumination is the same...seems to be a Subaru quirk. If you pay someone to do the work, be sure to mention that.
| monco123 | 06-29-2005 08:44 PM |
[QUOTE=GetRDone]you are probably not a firefighter and hence have never tried getting to the house/on scene during traffic.
most people are dumb. lights seem to make them do the most ridiculous things. for some reason they feel the need to speed up, stop completely or just ignore them.
sirens are a very effective warning tool especially paired with some type of visual warning (i.e. wig-wags, dash light, strobes, et al.)
JC - WWVFC #1[/QUOTE]
I've seen blue lighters run red lights, speed, run stop signs and drive like an ass because they believe they have some kind of special super citizen power. IMO, these people shouldnt have lights or sirens unless they take a specialized driving course because for some reason a blue light makes they think they can break the law.
Ever since a local blue lighter ran a red light with his tahoe and crushed a van, killing 3 kids and their mom, I have no compassion for vollys. Occationally they come up to me while I'm in uniform and talk to me like they are in the military or a cop.
:rolleyes:
most people are dumb. lights seem to make them do the most ridiculous things. for some reason they feel the need to speed up, stop completely or just ignore them.
sirens are a very effective warning tool especially paired with some type of visual warning (i.e. wig-wags, dash light, strobes, et al.)
JC - WWVFC #1[/QUOTE]
I've seen blue lighters run red lights, speed, run stop signs and drive like an ass because they believe they have some kind of special super citizen power. IMO, these people shouldnt have lights or sirens unless they take a specialized driving course because for some reason a blue light makes they think they can break the law.
Ever since a local blue lighter ran a red light with his tahoe and crushed a van, killing 3 kids and their mom, I have no compassion for vollys. Occationally they come up to me while I'm in uniform and talk to me like they are in the military or a cop.
:rolleyes:
| WRXRgr | 06-29-2005 09:27 PM |
[QUOTE=monco123] IMO, these people shouldnt have lights or sirens unless they take a specialized driving course because for some reason a blue light makes they think they can break the law.
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Absolutely, it should be (and probably is) a state requirement. The thread, however, is on technical aspects of mounting the equipment, not on the risk/benefit ratio of allowing a particular element of first responders some aspect of EVOC in their personally owned vehicles.
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Absolutely, it should be (and probably is) a state requirement. The thread, however, is on technical aspects of mounting the equipment, not on the risk/benefit ratio of allowing a particular element of first responders some aspect of EVOC in their personally owned vehicles.
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