| TEKNOSYS | 01-30-2005 11:40 PM |
Front license plate?
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This may be a stupid question, but I live in a state that doesn't require front plats, but I want to put something there. All I have are those 2 holes. How do I attach a plate? I went to the auto parts store, but all mounting bolts they sell don't seem to work. What am I missing?
| Monsito | 01-30-2005 11:49 PM |
You have to drill holes to mount your plate in front. There are two little dimples next to the holes in your bumper. That's where you drill your licence plate holes. ;)
| kennyvb | 01-30-2005 11:55 PM |
[url]http://mastrowrx.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=69[/url]
| brianbot5000 | 01-30-2005 11:58 PM |
People always want what they can't have...I'd LOVE to NOT have to have my front plate. Sucks to have it there!
In any case, I'd ask a dealership...you could probably even order replacement bolts from a Suby dealer in a state that does require front plates.
In any case, I'd ask a dealership...you could probably even order replacement bolts from a Suby dealer in a state that does require front plates.
| ADR 04STi | 01-31-2005 12:13 AM |
Your lucky. Here in NY you must have it on. Looks soo much nicer/smoother without it.
| ChrisL2 | 01-31-2005 01:33 AM |
Could always have a body shop cut it off. I know somebody has done it.
| Red04WRX | 01-31-2005 02:16 AM |
[QUOTE=kennyvb][url]http://mastrowrx.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=69[/url][/QUOTE]
for some reason that link isnt working,
this is where I got mine
[url]http://www.autospeedperformance.com/[/url]
for some reason that link isnt working,
this is where I got mine
[url]http://www.autospeedperformance.com/[/url]
| SubieRX | 01-31-2005 04:48 AM |
Yeah screw the front license plate. I live in cali, and I just got a 25 dollar ticket for not having it on. But I ain't gonna ruin the flow of my car by slapping an ugly ass license plate in the front. Spent so much time clearing out the headlights to keep everything black in front. Putting a big white plate in front would make me sad. :(
| mcowger | 01-31-2005 10:35 AM |
Yup, lets make everthing a little less safe so your car can 'flow better'.
| SpaceGhost | 01-31-2005 10:58 AM |
[QUOTE=mcowger]Yup, lets make everthing a little less safe so your car can 'flow better'.[/QUOTE]
:confused: Less safe? Huh? Do you think the licence plate absorbs all th energy in a crash? What the hell is less safe, nevermind..........
:confused: Less safe? Huh? Do you think the licence plate absorbs all th energy in a crash? What the hell is less safe, nevermind..........
| mcowger | 01-31-2005 11:02 AM |
Its there for a reason. Its there so that law enforcement can see it. Its there because it reflects a tremendous amount of light and makes it easier to see your car at night.
Its there for a rason, and its nothing more than silly vanity to remove it.
Its there for a rason, and its nothing more than silly vanity to remove it.
| NiNeX | 01-31-2005 11:18 AM |
hope they would see my headlights first it being night time and all
| offset | 01-31-2005 11:22 AM |
[QUOTE=mcowger]Its there for a reason. Its there so that law enforcement can see it. Its there because it reflects a tremendous amount of light and makes it easier to see your car at night.
Its there for a rason, and its nothing more than silly vanity to remove it.[/QUOTE]
Well, don't forget to never speed as that must also be silly vanity that is less safe. But then again I guess you bought a turbo charged car for better fuel efficiency??? :rolleyes:
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Its there for a rason, and its nothing more than silly vanity to remove it.[/QUOTE]
Well, don't forget to never speed as that must also be silly vanity that is less safe. But then again I guess you bought a turbo charged car for better fuel efficiency??? :rolleyes:
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| popnfresh | 01-31-2005 11:55 AM |
you need a front plate in order for the redlight cameras to catch you too =(
| mcowger | 01-31-2005 11:59 AM |
I don't speed, nor do I drive in an aggressive fashion. I save my crazy driving for the track, and so should you. I bought a turbo car because its fun, meets my needs and I can track it. However, safety is most important to me. Thats why I haven't removed my steering wheel and replaced it with a nicer one - I want to keep my airbag. I haven't removed my cats in the exhaust because I don't want to violate the law by running an illegal car.
But, this isn't about me. This is about sacraficing safety for the 'flow' of your car, which is silly, and always will be. Why not just remove all of the crashbeams? You can make it flow better with more bumper choices if you remove those.
Ninex: You've never parallel parked on a street at night? Your lights aren't on then ;).
But, this isn't about me. This is about sacraficing safety for the 'flow' of your car, which is silly, and always will be. Why not just remove all of the crashbeams? You can make it flow better with more bumper choices if you remove those.
Ninex: You've never parallel parked on a street at night? Your lights aren't on then ;).
| migs76 | 01-31-2005 12:33 PM |
[QUOTE]Ninex: You've never parallel parked on a street at night? Your lights aren't on then ;).[/QUOTE]
what exactly are you trying to say here? if one is parallel parked, really can't see the plate of the car in front or behind anyway? :confused:
to the thread starter - just be glad you don't need to have a front plate.
what exactly are you trying to say here? if one is parallel parked, really can't see the plate of the car in front or behind anyway? :confused:
to the thread starter - just be glad you don't need to have a front plate.
| mcowger | 01-31-2005 12:36 PM |
Sure you can. If you are parked on the side of the road, no cars near you on a dark street, the lic. plate is going to be the first thing you see.
| emnm79 | 01-31-2005 12:44 PM |
so, you think you should keep a front plate so some smacktard going down the side of the road without lights on doesnt hit you... yay
| migs76 | 01-31-2005 12:47 PM |
if you (not really you, but any driver usa) hits a parked car on the side of the road, than chalk it up to stupidity (either the guy driving for possibly driving carelessly or the guy getting out for not checking). and if it really impeded the safety of others, don't you think every state would be required by law to run front plates?
this is ridiculous, end hijack in hopes that original poster finds something to secure front bumper finisher.
this is ridiculous, end hijack in hopes that original poster finds something to secure front bumper finisher.
| Monsito | 01-31-2005 01:15 PM |
[QUOTE=NiNeX]hope they would see my headlights first it being night time and all[/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol: lmao :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: lmao :lol: :lol:
| mcowger | 01-31-2005 01:18 PM |
[QUOTE=migs76]
this is ridiculous, end hijack in hopes that original poster finds something to secure front bumper finisher.[/QUOTE]
You're right, I did hijack it. For that I apologize.
this is ridiculous, end hijack in hopes that original poster finds something to secure front bumper finisher.[/QUOTE]
You're right, I did hijack it. For that I apologize.
| Handsdown | 01-31-2005 01:25 PM |
i have a car that's registered in a state that requires front licenses, but live in a state that doesn't.
does that make it wrong to run without one, legally or morally?
you can't just end a hijack after starting it.
does that make it wrong to run without one, legally or morally?
you can't just end a hijack after starting it.
| mcowger | 01-31-2005 01:34 PM |
Well then take it to PM.
| nimaxpro | 01-31-2005 01:47 PM |
One state can't enforce other state's laws. So if you have your car registered in NJ, but live in PA, you can take the front NJ plate and hang it on your wall. Moral side is up to you.
I'm not a lawyer and don't pretend to be one....so don't take this as 100% true. This is just my thinking and understanding.
[QUOTE=Handsdown]i have a car that's registered in a state that requires front licenses, but live in a state that doesn't.
does that make it wrong to run without one, legally or morally?
you can't just end a hijack after starting it.[/QUOTE]
I'm not a lawyer and don't pretend to be one....so don't take this as 100% true. This is just my thinking and understanding.
[QUOTE=Handsdown]i have a car that's registered in a state that requires front licenses, but live in a state that doesn't.
does that make it wrong to run without one, legally or morally?
you can't just end a hijack after starting it.[/QUOTE]
| Handsdown | 01-31-2005 01:52 PM |
gotcha. thanks.
| mafiamotorsports | 01-31-2005 02:50 PM |
[QUOTE=SubieRX]Yeah screw the front license plate. I live in cali, and I just got a 25 dollar ticket for not having it on. But I ain't gonna ruin the flow of my car by slapping an ugly ass license plate in the front. Spent so much time clearing out the headlights to keep everything black in front. Putting a big white plate in front would make me sad. :([/QUOTE]
I was told by a cop here in cali we didnt have to have the front plate on.He said the back was sufficient :confused:
I was told by a cop here in cali we didnt have to have the front plate on.He said the back was sufficient :confused:
| only1agam | 01-31-2005 08:05 PM |
this is what i did with my front license plate holder.. i hope yall like it :) its unique :)
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/779000-779999/779554_2_full.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/779000-779999/779554_2_full.jpg[/IMG]
| jmanny | 01-31-2005 09:27 PM |
if its there for saftey reasons, why dont all the states require it?
| emnm79 | 01-31-2005 10:25 PM |
because california is elevendy times smarter than every other state :) same goes for other front plate states
| Red04WRX | 02-01-2005 12:24 AM |
[QUOTE=jmanny]if its there for saftey reasons, why dont all the states require it?[/QUOTE]
/thread
/thread
| newsman | 02-01-2005 01:03 PM |
I would put a nice Autospeed plate there to dress up the car. They make licence trip plate in black now so it's doesn't look bling. I wouldn't order it from mastrowrx.com though as their service sucks. I ordered my plate 3 month ago with some floor mats, they dragged their feet about delivering the plate. Where out of stock etc etc, and finally I made them refund me the money :( Never again.
| sirbryanclark | 02-01-2005 03:02 PM |
WA requires a front plate, but i have been running without it since i got the car (last april) and have had zero problems... do the same thing on my accord for 2 years
| suby4ub | 02-01-2005 03:46 PM |
[QUOTE=brianbot5000]People always want what they can't have...I'd LOVE to NOT have to have my front plate. Sucks to have it there!
In any case, I'd ask a dealership...you could probably even order replacement bolts from a Suby dealer in a state that does require front plates.[/QUOTE]
i know who complains about not having a front plate but yes a suabru dealership is your best bet if you have tried to drill the holes and the mounting bolts dont fit right.
In any case, I'd ask a dealership...you could probably even order replacement bolts from a Suby dealer in a state that does require front plates.[/QUOTE]
i know who complains about not having a front plate but yes a suabru dealership is your best bet if you have tried to drill the holes and the mounting bolts dont fit right.
| SubieRX | 02-01-2005 06:50 PM |
[QUOTE=mcowger]Its there for a reason. Its there so that law enforcement can see it. Its there because it reflects a tremendous amount of light and makes it easier to see your car at night.
Its there for a rason, and its nothing more than silly vanity to remove it.[/QUOTE]
Haha are you serious? Relax man, its just a license plate. Whether it actually adds a significant factor in "safety" is debateable. If you want one then go for it, if I don't want one, then who are you to tell me that I'm wrong? To each his own... as is OFTEN quoted on these forums.
Its there for a rason, and its nothing more than silly vanity to remove it.[/QUOTE]
Haha are you serious? Relax man, its just a license plate. Whether it actually adds a significant factor in "safety" is debateable. If you want one then go for it, if I don't want one, then who are you to tell me that I'm wrong? To each his own... as is OFTEN quoted on these forums.
| mcowger | 02-01-2005 07:19 PM |
To each his own, yes. And he can deal with his vanity all he wants. Once his vanity starts to break the law/reduce safety is where I have a problem.
By posting on a message board, you invite comment. Thats where I get to tell you I think you're wrong. You don't want to hear potentially disagreeable views? Don't ask for comment by posting on a message board.
By posting on a message board, you invite comment. Thats where I get to tell you I think you're wrong. You don't want to hear potentially disagreeable views? Don't ask for comment by posting on a message board.
| BlazeYellow02 | 02-02-2005 12:03 PM |
A cheap easy way out of front plates
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i did this in Mass. so i appologize if it doesnt work for you. Call the registry and tell them you lost your front plate. for $15 in mass you can reorder your plates, it takes 10-2000 weeks to get the plates so they send you a certificate saying that you ordered plates and getting you off the hook with cops or inspection. the certificate is good for one year. so for 15 bucks you can run no front plate for a year. Good Luck :banana:
| dubba you are ex | 02-02-2005 12:28 PM |
mine has holes, damn ca with the useless front license plates
| erich | 02-03-2005 04:35 PM |
don't forget they need something to bounce a laser off too.
there's a paint that supposedly will make it so cameras can't see your license plate properly, but is nearly invisible. if i can find the link i'll post it.. there was a news article referencing people using it in washington, dc.
there's a paint that supposedly will make it so cameras can't see your license plate properly, but is nearly invisible. if i can find the link i'll post it.. there was a news article referencing people using it in washington, dc.
| mcowger | 02-03-2005 04:57 PM |
1) If you can see your plate, a camera can too. No paint will change that fact.
2) As for laser protection paint - mythbusters tried that stuff a few shows ago. If you were to cover your car with it, your car would be flat grey, weigh a couple hundred pounds more and have the consistency of wet bondo. Oh, and it costs something like a couple hundred bucks/pint.
2) As for laser protection paint - mythbusters tried that stuff a few shows ago. If you were to cover your car with it, your car would be flat grey, weigh a couple hundred pounds more and have the consistency of wet bondo. Oh, and it costs something like a couple hundred bucks/pint.
| TygerStile | 02-03-2005 05:48 PM |
I think the front plate looks ugly on the front, but I still put it on anyway. I don't want to give a cop any reason to pull me over. Years ago I was pulled over for a traffic violation, and the chp lady threw in a fix-it ticket for no front plate. It's an easy ticket to fix, but its just a hassle.
To each their own. If you live in a state where its required, and choose not to throw it on... don't complain if you get ticketed for it.
To each their own. If you live in a state where its required, and choose not to throw it on... don't complain if you get ticketed for it.
| RoadRageDev | 02-03-2005 05:56 PM |
[QUOTE=mcowger]To each his own, yes. And he can deal with his vanity all he wants. Once his vanity starts to break the law/reduce safety is where I have a problem.
By posting on a message board, you invite comment. Thats where I get to tell you I think you're wrong. You don't want to hear potentially disagreeable views? Don't ask for comment by posting on a message board.[/QUOTE]
An opinion is one thing. But when you come in and start spouting off completley idiotic comments that a front license plate is a safety issue you're flat out a moron. If that were true then don't you think ALL states would require a front license plate? You make me sad and baby Jesus cry. Go /yourself.
By posting on a message board, you invite comment. Thats where I get to tell you I think you're wrong. You don't want to hear potentially disagreeable views? Don't ask for comment by posting on a message board.[/QUOTE]
An opinion is one thing. But when you come in and start spouting off completley idiotic comments that a front license plate is a safety issue you're flat out a moron. If that were true then don't you think ALL states would require a front license plate? You make me sad and baby Jesus cry. Go /yourself.
| SubieRX | 02-03-2005 07:07 PM |
[QUOTE=RoadRageDev]An opinion is one thing. But when you come in and start spouting off completley idiotic comments that a front license plate is a safety issue you're flat out a moron. If that were true then don't you think ALL states would require a front license plate? You make me sad and baby Jesus cry. Go /yourself.[/QUOTE]
:lol:
:lol:
| KAX | 02-03-2005 07:17 PM |
guys, the front plate is so cops can see your number from both sides, front and back. theres no safety issue on it, it doesnt provide as reinforcement for a crash or anything. Some states thinks it helps the cops, some dont, so some dont use it. For those who do, why dont you try placing it somewhere else, like over the foglight covers, or even flat on the bottom of the lower grille, just so you can say you have it but cant really see it.
as for the point of the thread, go to your dealership and get them to drill the holes or whatever and get a licence plate. if thats what ou want then thats what you should get.
as for the point of the thread, go to your dealership and get them to drill the holes or whatever and get a licence plate. if thats what ou want then thats what you should get.
| offset | 02-03-2005 08:58 PM |
[QUOTE=mcowger]1) If you can see your plate, a camera can too. No paint will change that fact.
2) As for laser protection paint - mythbusters tried that stuff a few shows ago. If you were to cover your car with it, your car would be flat grey, weigh a couple hundred pounds more and have the consistency of wet bondo. Oh, and it costs something like a couple hundred bucks/pint.[/QUOTE]
I haven't even been that harsh on you in this thread, but you really have no idea what you are talking about. Go do your homework before wasting space.
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2) As for laser protection paint - mythbusters tried that stuff a few shows ago. If you were to cover your car with it, your car would be flat grey, weigh a couple hundred pounds more and have the consistency of wet bondo. Oh, and it costs something like a couple hundred bucks/pint.[/QUOTE]
I haven't even been that harsh on you in this thread, but you really have no idea what you are talking about. Go do your homework before wasting space.
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| CoopsCustomz | 02-03-2005 10:34 PM |
Here's what I did with mine. I live in Cali also, I haven't been hastled about it yet, as I think it's more than visible enough, actually, sitting in a car of similar height or higher, it's easier to see, from a far and close up. :banana:
edit: by the way, I've recently upgraded to sticky velcro pads to eliminate the velcro straps. WAY better!
[img]http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL292/2053648/3980805/83957756.jpg[/img]
[img]http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL292/2053648/3980805/83957748.jpg[/img]
edit: by the way, I've recently upgraded to sticky velcro pads to eliminate the velcro straps. WAY better!
[img]http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL292/2053648/3980805/83957756.jpg[/img]
[img]http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL292/2053648/3980805/83957748.jpg[/img]
| RoadRageDev | 02-04-2005 12:19 AM |
[QUOTE=offset]I haven't even been that harsh on you in this thread, but you really have no idea what you are talking about. Go do your homework before wasting space.
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Wasting space? He/she is wasting my precious oxygen supply! :furious: :lol:
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Wasting space? He/she is wasting my precious oxygen supply! :furious: :lol:
| SubieRX | 02-04-2005 12:17 PM |
[QUOTE=RoadRageDev]Wasting space? He/she is wasting my precious oxygen supply! :furious: :lol:[/QUOTE]
:lol: Lets go easy on the poor guy. If he believes that little plate in front of his car will protect him then let him live in his own little bubble.
:lol: Lets go easy on the poor guy. If he believes that little plate in front of his car will protect him then let him live in his own little bubble.
| nimaxpro | 02-09-2005 10:05 AM |
[QUOTE=KAX]... it doesnt provide as reinforcement for a crash or anything. Some states thinks it helps the cops, some dont, so some dont use it. For those who do, why dont you try placing it somewhere else, like over the foglight covers, or even flat on the bottom of the lower grille, just so you can say you have it but cant really see it.
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Actually, it does help in parking lot collisions. While parking, my mom hit something in the front (shopping cart or a car, I don't know) and the only damage were scatches (on the plate) and a bent license plate. If she didn't have the plate, the bumper cover would be scratched. So the plate helps in crashes :lol:
[QUOTE=mcowger]
Its there for a reason. Its there so that law enforcement can see it. Its there because it reflects a tremendous amount of light and makes it easier to see your car at night.
Its there for a rason, and its nothing more than silly vanity to remove it.
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Although the plate does reflect a lot of light, it's not on the car for for this. Your lights have reflectors in them for this reason (same thing as cyclists use on bikes, cops/road workers wear orange/green vests, and sneakers have little stripes that help you see runners at night).
[QUOTE=mcowger]
1) If you can see your plate, a camera can too. No paint will change that fact.
2) As for laser protection paint - mythbusters tried that stuff a few shows ago. If you were to cover your car with it, your car would be flat grey, weigh a couple hundred pounds more and have the consistency of wet bondo. Oh, and it costs something like a couple hundred bucks/pint.
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1) Your eye can see the plate alright, but you don't have a flash built in your forehead. Most cameras use flash and some sprays/clear paints help reflect that light to make the letters invisible.
Either way, unless you live in the city and run a lot of red lights(or speed through toll booths), I don't see a reason for worrying about a camera ticket. They're not widespread.
2) Laser protection paint? There are ways(paint, shape) to make an object less visible to RADAR, but I'm not so sure about LIDAR....It's also cheaper and easier(as opposed to this magical and expensive paint) to buy a laser shifter and use that.
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Actually, it does help in parking lot collisions. While parking, my mom hit something in the front (shopping cart or a car, I don't know) and the only damage were scatches (on the plate) and a bent license plate. If she didn't have the plate, the bumper cover would be scratched. So the plate helps in crashes :lol:
[QUOTE=mcowger]
Its there for a reason. Its there so that law enforcement can see it. Its there because it reflects a tremendous amount of light and makes it easier to see your car at night.
Its there for a rason, and its nothing more than silly vanity to remove it.
[/QUOTE]
Although the plate does reflect a lot of light, it's not on the car for for this. Your lights have reflectors in them for this reason (same thing as cyclists use on bikes, cops/road workers wear orange/green vests, and sneakers have little stripes that help you see runners at night).
[QUOTE=mcowger]
1) If you can see your plate, a camera can too. No paint will change that fact.
2) As for laser protection paint - mythbusters tried that stuff a few shows ago. If you were to cover your car with it, your car would be flat grey, weigh a couple hundred pounds more and have the consistency of wet bondo. Oh, and it costs something like a couple hundred bucks/pint.
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1) Your eye can see the plate alright, but you don't have a flash built in your forehead. Most cameras use flash and some sprays/clear paints help reflect that light to make the letters invisible.
Either way, unless you live in the city and run a lot of red lights(or speed through toll booths), I don't see a reason for worrying about a camera ticket. They're not widespread.
2) Laser protection paint? There are ways(paint, shape) to make an object less visible to RADAR, but I'm not so sure about LIDAR....It's also cheaper and easier(as opposed to this magical and expensive paint) to buy a laser shifter and use that.
| offset | 02-09-2005 10:33 AM |
[QUOTE=nimaxpro]2) Laser protection paint? There are ways(paint, shape) to make an object less visible to RADAR, but I'm not so sure about LIDAR....It's also cheaper and easier(as opposed to this magical and expensive paint) to buy a laser shifter and use that.[/QUOTE]
Just remember though that *moving* laser is coming soon and that increases the threat. I have an LE-30 but I am thinking my rear plate will be a prime target eventually, but I guess I should just pony up the cash for a rear emmitter for my Lidatek.
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Just remember though that *moving* laser is coming soon and that increases the threat. I have an LE-30 but I am thinking my rear plate will be a prime target eventually, but I guess I should just pony up the cash for a rear emmitter for my Lidatek.
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