| makofoto | 02-12-2007 01:16 PM |
Have You Ever Had An AX Cancelled because of Rain?
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Ours did yesterday. It wasn't even raining that much, and it was suppose to clear up. We've had much heavier rain in the past but the organizers felt that the course was unsafe in the wet and that the grid could be flooded, so they took advantage of an apparently new rule that allowed them to not pay the lot fee if no car ran. A little after 7 AM they had the course taken down. They said they were also worried that because of the rain there might not be enough people to cover their expenses.
We were not given a chance to help make the necessary changes to the grid and course. I'm a course designer, and I've had to make changes in the past at this lot because of rain. They were done quickly with minimal impact on the event.
We had something like 170 CSCC people pre-registered ($25 entry fee). Some of those people might not show up but we always get other people that haven't pre-registered. None members pay $40. Obviously at 7 am on a rainy day you aren't going to have an overflowing paddock. People who's run groups are scheduled for the afternoon often don't show up until late morning.
There didn't seem to be any good reason not to wait a couple of hours to see how the conditions would change, how many people were going to show up and use that time to make the necessary changes. The organizers had also hosted a successful practice session the day before with at least 75+ people paying $80 each. The lot is $2,000 per day, plus a few hundred for Porta Potties. We get per/person insurance through the SCCA ... something like $6/person.
We had to cancel an event a couple of years ago because of high wind. The cones wouldn't stay put. But we first waited a few hours and then gathered everyone up to VOTE on whether we should cancel or I believe perhaps do a practice event with doubled up cones ... which can potentially damage ones car.
Our events are hosted by our various sub-clubs that make up the California Sports Car Club, the local SCCA chapter responsible for Solo racing. There is a separate club, Cal Club responsible for other forms of local SCCA racing.
The club that was running this particular weekends events was PFM, local Cal Poly engineering students who hosts quite a few of our events in order to raise money for their Formula SAE efforts. It doesn't seem like any of them actually auto cross themselves. They are a great bunch of people that typically work very hard to do these events. Other CSCC officials working with them yesterday morning agreed with them to cancel the event, including our very experienced Chairperson and fairly new Safety Steward.
Of course quite a few of us have to travel up to two hours away to get to these events. Some people stay over night to be close by. A lot of us had spent a lot of time during the week prepping our cars. Some of us were looking forward to running in the rain as a practice for the upcoming San Diego National Tour. Some of us had never run in the rain or had not run a new car or set-up/tires in the rain.
We're fortunate to have a very active regional AX'ing community so a group of us, 13+ took the 1.5 hour drive to San Diego, where we were able to run with them later in the afternoon. But that meant for instance that my car owner had a four hour drive back to his home. I know at least one other person had an equally long driver home. The course in San Diego was even faster then our course, and it rained pretty heavily off and on. They typically have less entries then we do, and Qualcomm Stadium isn't exactly cheap. There was never any talk from them about canceling or worrying about money.
I had a person driving three hours down to meet me at CA Speedway to pick up a sway bar set. Since it was raining, I sent him an email at 5:30 am on Sunday assuring him that we would be there running Rain or Shine. Luckily he called me before leaving Fresno ... as I was driving to San Diego.
Yeah ... I know we're lucky to be able to be AX'ing at all while others are drowning in snow!
But have any of you encountered a Day Of cancellation because of rain? Our big problem now is a case of Crying Wolf ... how many people sitting on the fence are not going to bother coming if it's raining. We've now created a possible real financial issue. At the next committee meeting, hopefully they will be able to standardize cancellation procedures.
We were not given a chance to help make the necessary changes to the grid and course. I'm a course designer, and I've had to make changes in the past at this lot because of rain. They were done quickly with minimal impact on the event.
We had something like 170 CSCC people pre-registered ($25 entry fee). Some of those people might not show up but we always get other people that haven't pre-registered. None members pay $40. Obviously at 7 am on a rainy day you aren't going to have an overflowing paddock. People who's run groups are scheduled for the afternoon often don't show up until late morning.
There didn't seem to be any good reason not to wait a couple of hours to see how the conditions would change, how many people were going to show up and use that time to make the necessary changes. The organizers had also hosted a successful practice session the day before with at least 75+ people paying $80 each. The lot is $2,000 per day, plus a few hundred for Porta Potties. We get per/person insurance through the SCCA ... something like $6/person.
We had to cancel an event a couple of years ago because of high wind. The cones wouldn't stay put. But we first waited a few hours and then gathered everyone up to VOTE on whether we should cancel or I believe perhaps do a practice event with doubled up cones ... which can potentially damage ones car.
Our events are hosted by our various sub-clubs that make up the California Sports Car Club, the local SCCA chapter responsible for Solo racing. There is a separate club, Cal Club responsible for other forms of local SCCA racing.
The club that was running this particular weekends events was PFM, local Cal Poly engineering students who hosts quite a few of our events in order to raise money for their Formula SAE efforts. It doesn't seem like any of them actually auto cross themselves. They are a great bunch of people that typically work very hard to do these events. Other CSCC officials working with them yesterday morning agreed with them to cancel the event, including our very experienced Chairperson and fairly new Safety Steward.
Of course quite a few of us have to travel up to two hours away to get to these events. Some people stay over night to be close by. A lot of us had spent a lot of time during the week prepping our cars. Some of us were looking forward to running in the rain as a practice for the upcoming San Diego National Tour. Some of us had never run in the rain or had not run a new car or set-up/tires in the rain.
We're fortunate to have a very active regional AX'ing community so a group of us, 13+ took the 1.5 hour drive to San Diego, where we were able to run with them later in the afternoon. But that meant for instance that my car owner had a four hour drive back to his home. I know at least one other person had an equally long driver home. The course in San Diego was even faster then our course, and it rained pretty heavily off and on. They typically have less entries then we do, and Qualcomm Stadium isn't exactly cheap. There was never any talk from them about canceling or worrying about money.
I had a person driving three hours down to meet me at CA Speedway to pick up a sway bar set. Since it was raining, I sent him an email at 5:30 am on Sunday assuring him that we would be there running Rain or Shine. Luckily he called me before leaving Fresno ... as I was driving to San Diego.
Yeah ... I know we're lucky to be able to be AX'ing at all while others are drowning in snow!
But have any of you encountered a Day Of cancellation because of rain? Our big problem now is a case of Crying Wolf ... how many people sitting on the fence are not going to bother coming if it's raining. We've now created a possible real financial issue. At the next committee meeting, hopefully they will be able to standardize cancellation procedures.
| STFU STi | 02-12-2007 01:18 PM |
I drove 3.5 hours to an event once.. arrive in time and all that...
cancelled the event because it was starting to snow..
so i called everyone a bunch of sissys and drive 3.5 hours home.
ARGH!!!
cancelled the event because it was starting to snow..
so i called everyone a bunch of sissys and drive 3.5 hours home.
ARGH!!!
| KC | 02-12-2007 01:20 PM |
No. Auto-x shouldn't be canceled unless there's the threat of lightning or cones washing away.
How is one supposed to get rain practice for national events if you cancel when it rains locally? This just breeds more people crying foul and unfair when the show continues at national events (tours/pros).
Run in the rain, get used to it. Get the practice.
--kC
How is one supposed to get rain practice for national events if you cancel when it rains locally? This just breeds more people crying foul and unfair when the show continues at national events (tours/pros).
Run in the rain, get used to it. Get the practice.
--kC
| Scooby South | 02-12-2007 01:27 PM |
we halted a event once...indefinately...only to reschedule it at a later date because of thunderstorms...
| espEVO | 02-12-2007 01:28 PM |
The only event I've been to that was cancelled (b/c of weather) was due to poor forecasting. It was an early season Test and Tune last year w/NNJR SCCA and everyone thought the weather would get better. We got there and the forecast looked really crappy with continued heavy rain/wind and it was actually quite cold, around 40's. Even then a vote was taken at least.
Then again we had a deluge at the DC Pro last year on Sunday with soo much rain coming down I swore the cones would wash away. Poor Ron Bistrais was fixing a broken axle on his FS Camaro on a dowhill portion of the lot...guy was so soaked. I learned alot about hydroplaning that day.
Then again we had a deluge at the DC Pro last year on Sunday with soo much rain coming down I swore the cones would wash away. Poor Ron Bistrais was fixing a broken axle on his FS Camaro on a dowhill portion of the lot...guy was so soaked. I learned alot about hydroplaning that day.
| cooleyjb | 02-12-2007 01:32 PM |
We had one sorta cancelled by default because a total of 6 people 3 cars showed up. It was run but with a minimum of cones and a stopwatch since the cone truck didn't bother showing up either. The solo safety steward was there and I was the course designer so we built a course with 18 cones that was almost 1 minute long. It was my first and only FTD. A008RSII's that were pretty crappy in the rain by the way. However at the next club meeting they cancelled all points for the event since it was poorly attended dropping me from 1st to 3rd overall in the season long points championship. Needless to say I was a bit unhappy.
I did have an HPDE cancelled for 10 inches of snow once though.
I did have an HPDE cancelled for 10 inches of snow once though.
| Jack | 02-12-2007 01:36 PM |
I had an event officially cancelled part way through back in the early 90's on Cape Cod because of torrential downpours. The organizers allowed anyone who wanted to... to do fun runs for the rest of the day. You knock down a cone, you go back and pick it up. I found it to be great practice. I found the limits of R compounds in the rain to be far higher than I had expected.
jack
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| Warp3 | 02-12-2007 01:42 PM |
Our local events only get stopped / cancelled for rain if there is cloud-to-ground lightning in the vicinity or if the rain is heavy enough to prevent the timing lights from functioning. Timing lights working and no lightning? Fire 'em up. :D
| JamesWilson | 02-12-2007 01:46 PM |
Yeah, I am so glad I did not drive up to California Speedway (100+ miles) while the San Diego event is less than 3 miles from my house.
It didn't even rain all that badly down in San Diego, I was even running on Hankook dry tires.....
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evjlwK3zQiQ[/url]
-JW
It didn't even rain all that badly down in San Diego, I was even running on Hankook dry tires.....
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evjlwK3zQiQ[/url]
-JW
| makofoto | 02-12-2007 01:48 PM |
Exactly Lightning is certainly an acceptable and necessary reason for delaying and possibly canceling an event. We cancelled that one event, after a vote, and after waiting for hours because of high winds. It was really weird looking out at the course and seeing 50 cones moving together. We had another event where it was pretty windy, so after a wait, we took every other cone and double them up for weight. Some people with fiberglass bodied cars left. I don't blame them, I would do the same now with the Elise.
| Paisan | 02-12-2007 01:51 PM |
[QUOTE=Warp3;17022958]Our local events only get stopped / cancelled for rain if there is cloud-to-ground lightning in the vicinity or if the rain is heavy enough to prevent the timing lights from functioning. Timing lights working and no lightning? Fire 'em up. :D[/QUOTE]
Yup same here. At least when I stopped auto-xing a few years ago that's how they worked it.
-mike
Yup same here. At least when I stopped auto-xing a few years ago that's how they worked it.
-mike
| jcroy66 | 02-12-2007 01:54 PM |
I went to an event that was cancelled once because of rain. I was pretty irked over it. Especially as I'd checked the website right before leaving, to make sure it was still happening. All the notices from the organizers said "we will run rain or shine". Then they cancelled because of the combination of slightly chilly temps (low 40s IIRC) and the rain. I always wondered if they cancelled more due to financial concerns (i.e. the rain keeping enough people away that they might not break even on the event) than because of the weather itself. IIRC, it was NOT cancelled because of safety concerns, but rather just because of the rain and marking cones in the standing water.
On the other hand, I had a 2-day Test n Tune cancelled 2 years ago because of cold weather and snow. It was an early April event, and the decision was made due to the combination of worker safety (chance of frostbite was mentioned) and the event being a Test n Tune. It was reasoned that tuning for "30 degrees and snowing" was not likely to be a condition you'd see at Nationals. :) That decision I agreed with wholeheartedly, especially as the call was made on Friday, so everyone had decent notice to modify their plans before the events on Saturday and Sunday.
On the other hand, I had a 2-day Test n Tune cancelled 2 years ago because of cold weather and snow. It was an early April event, and the decision was made due to the combination of worker safety (chance of frostbite was mentioned) and the event being a Test n Tune. It was reasoned that tuning for "30 degrees and snowing" was not likely to be a condition you'd see at Nationals. :) That decision I agreed with wholeheartedly, especially as the call was made on Friday, so everyone had decent notice to modify their plans before the events on Saturday and Sunday.
| shane86 | 02-12-2007 01:55 PM |
i've been to one event where we ended early due to heavy rain/possible thunderstorms.
But that event was run by some wussy old corvette owners...
i still remember walking up to the trailer in the midst of a downpour with nothing on but my t-shirt and jeans, both totally soaked to the point where their clinging to my fat ass and, looked the head guy in the face and said, "you better not call this. i just finished with my last work assignment and i want my damn runs."
But that event was run by some wussy old corvette owners...
i still remember walking up to the trailer in the midst of a downpour with nothing on but my t-shirt and jeans, both totally soaked to the point where their clinging to my fat ass and, looked the head guy in the face and said, "you better not call this. i just finished with my last work assignment and i want my damn runs."
| leecea | 02-12-2007 02:28 PM |
[QUOTE]The club that was running this particular weekends events was PFM, local Cal Poly engineering students who hosts quite a few of our events in order to raise money for their Formula SAE efforts. [/QUOTE]
That could be the answer - the students were not willing to take a risk. They saw a small number of people turn up and had a chance the back out of the $2000 lot fee. If they'd gone ahead and only had 50 people at $25-$6 each, they were looking at a $1000 loss. Pretty hard for a bunch of kids trying to fund an SAE program.
That could be the answer - the students were not willing to take a risk. They saw a small number of people turn up and had a chance the back out of the $2000 lot fee. If they'd gone ahead and only had 50 people at $25-$6 each, they were looking at a $1000 loss. Pretty hard for a bunch of kids trying to fund an SAE program.
| solo-x | 02-12-2007 02:39 PM |
Nope, we (the SCCA club) don't cancel unless their is lightning. Though we have had to postpone events for an hour or so due to the cones washing away after cars drove by them. We've autocrossed in snow, sleet, sideways rain, and downpours so heavy there were literally rivers running off the course. We do this even in open wheel/open cockpit cars. Yep, fewer people show up. We ridicule them and absorb the losses. A club should be able to loose money at an event every now and again and still run effeciently.
Now, the local BMW club on the other hand has cancelled events due to cold rain and chance of sleet. Seems the richer you are, the less willing you are to sacrifice your personal comfort for the joy of driving.
Now, the local BMW club on the other hand has cancelled events due to cold rain and chance of sleet. Seems the richer you are, the less willing you are to sacrifice your personal comfort for the joy of driving.
| solo-x | 02-12-2007 02:40 PM |
Just saw the part about the hosting club being an FSAE team. I wouldn't blame them for cancelling since they are essentially holding the events for profit.
| fliz | 02-12-2007 02:45 PM |
Rain, no. Heck, we run the new driver's school at the beginning of the year in 35 degree rain.
We do cancel for snow or lightning.
We do cancel for snow or lightning.
| racerjon1 | 02-12-2007 05:34 PM |
I have shown up at two autocrosses that were then called off due to rain, one was an SCCA region, and the other was not. Both times, I was pretty pieved.
I have seen a share of breaks for lightning of course, one event that was delayed due to flooding, and one event that was called short after a fairly sizeable chunk of the course was a foot deep in water.
Jon K
I have seen a share of breaks for lightning of course, one event that was delayed due to flooding, and one event that was called short after a fairly sizeable chunk of the course was a foot deep in water.
Jon K
| Imprezivblue | 02-12-2007 05:49 PM |
Norfolk divisional 2005 = monsoon and no cancellation. At the driver's meeting a question came up about what would be done if someone knocked over a cone with a wake. There was too much of a subjective decision to say whether it was weather enduced or the car hit it. Cones knocked over with a wake were a penalty. Sure enough after my runs, the divisional chair comes up to me and goes "So I saw your run and guess what? You knocked over a cone in the slolam with a wake". Lovely. But I will say we had a heck of a timing getting the timing equipment to work on day #2. Some of the connections were fried.
| digitalseance | 02-12-2007 05:59 PM |
had an event cancelled due to snow. it was our last event of the year and it started snowing at 8:30. At 10am they cancelled the event.
at 10:45 it was clear and sunny, still a bit chilly, but SUNNY. Course would have been wet for the first heat, but it still would have been great with me competing in ESP against RWD cars.
S$%^ happens.
On the other hand:
CENDIV divisional in June had about 2" of rain during the first heat, and 3" more during the second. There was flash flooding and the event kept going. I was in DStock so I got whooped by an ACR SRT4 (who happen to get FTDi).
at 10:45 it was clear and sunny, still a bit chilly, but SUNNY. Course would have been wet for the first heat, but it still would have been great with me competing in ESP against RWD cars.
S$%^ happens.
On the other hand:
CENDIV divisional in June had about 2" of rain during the first heat, and 3" more during the second. There was flash flooding and the event kept going. I was in DStock so I got whooped by an ACR SRT4 (who happen to get FTDi).
| GEARHEAD23 | 02-12-2007 07:02 PM |
[QUOTE=0000-09-0233;17022618]I drove 3.5 hours to an event once.. arrive in time and all that...
cancelled the event because it was starting to snow..
so i called everyone a bunch of sissys and drive 3.5 hours home.
ARGH!!![/QUOTE]
UH thats just about how it happened for me. less drive time for me, but worse language:furious:
And with my big mouth everyone knew how i felt.
cancelled the event because it was starting to snow..
so i called everyone a bunch of sissys and drive 3.5 hours home.
ARGH!!![/QUOTE]
UH thats just about how it happened for me. less drive time for me, but worse language:furious:
And with my big mouth everyone knew how i felt.
| D fresh | 02-12-2007 07:21 PM |
We've had 'em cancelled for snow, but never for rain. As a matter of fact, around here many of the Subie guys actually pray for rain.
| RBelcher00 | 02-12-2007 07:52 PM |
Yeah, I was there hoping to see some auto-x action too.
| dwx | 02-12-2007 08:28 PM |
I've been to an event called early for lightning. I was also at an event a couple years ago that after 2 heats (3 run seach) a majority of people at the event decided to call it. It was raining pretty heavily, about 35 degrees, with about a 30 mph wind.
| Crash477 | 02-12-2007 08:38 PM |
[QUOTE=Warp3;17022958]Our local events only get stopped / cancelled for rain if there is cloud-to-ground lightning in the vicinity or if the rain is heavy enough to prevent the timing lights from functioning. Timing lights working and no lightning? Fire 'em up. :D[/QUOTE]yeah we called one due to lightening, it just wouldnt stop! but otherwise, lets race!!!
| RoundtheBend | 02-12-2007 08:52 PM |
[quote=solo-x;17023895]Nope, we (the SCCA club) don't cancel unless their is lightning. Though we have had to postpone events for an hour or so due to the cones washing away after cars drove by them. We've autocrossed in snow, sleet, sideways rain, and downpours so heavy there were literally rivers running off the course. We do this even in open wheel/open cockpit cars. Yep, fewer people show up. We ridicule them and absorb the losses. A club should be able to loose money at an event every now and again and still run effeciently.[/quote]This is the way events should be handled...[quote=solo-x;17023916]Just saw the part about the hosting club being an FSAE team. I wouldn't blame them for cancelling since they are essentially holding the events for profit.[/quote]unless this is case.
solo-x is correct, your average club should be able to absorb a small loss on one event during the season.
solo-x is correct, your average club should be able to absorb a small loss on one event during the season.
| steverife | 02-12-2007 09:54 PM |
No. I have been to a small non-SCCA event that was called short because of rain. Everyone rejoiced.
| cdmnky | 02-13-2007 01:01 AM |
[QUOTE=jcroy66;17023162]On the other hand, I had a 2-day Test n Tune cancelled 2 years ago because of cold weather and snow. It was an early April event, and the decision was made due to the combination of worker safety (chance of frostbite was mentioned) and the event being a Test n Tune. It was reasoned that tuning for "30 degrees and snowing" was not likely to be a condition you'd see at Nationals. :)[/QUOTE]
Now Jen I know you weren't at Nationals this year, but 30 and snowing wasn't too far off of early morning runs for some people :eek:
Now Jen I know you weren't at Nationals this year, but 30 and snowing wasn't too far off of early morning runs for some people :eek:
| solo-x | 02-13-2007 08:59 AM |
[QUOTE=cdmnky;17032014]Now Jen I know you weren't at Nationals this year, but 30 and snowing wasn't too far off of early morning runs for some people :eek:[/QUOTE]
Pulling in to HPT and seeing the board display 38*'s Thursday morning was NOT something I wanted to see. Turns out, R25A's feel like wax when they are that cold. They have about as much grip too.
Pulling in to HPT and seeing the board display 38*'s Thursday morning was NOT something I wanted to see. Turns out, R25A's feel like wax when they are that cold. They have about as much grip too.
| ralli02 | 02-13-2007 09:02 AM |
I remember we called an event once because of rain, we had two events back to back (Sat and Sunday) and Saturday was aweful and pouring and Sunday was cancelled because it was still raining and the parking lot was starting to floor.
And once we had to stop because of a Thunderstorm, but other than that we have run in snow, sleet, snow etc etc.. sometimes its even nice and sunny :p
And once we had to stop because of a Thunderstorm, but other than that we have run in snow, sleet, snow etc etc.. sometimes its even nice and sunny :p
| WRXedUSA | 02-13-2007 11:29 AM |
[QUOTE=KC;17022640]No. Auto-x shouldn't be canceled unless there's the threat of lightning or cones washing away.
How is one supposed to get rain practice for national events if you cancel when it rains locally? This just breeds more people crying foul and unfair when the show continues at national events (tours/pros).
Run in the rain, get used to it. Get the practice.
--kC[/QUOTE]
Our Mustang and Camaro guys like to cancel autoX's because of rain (when they are EVM's).
They come equipped with leaf blowers and brooms should there be standing puddles. Not to mention, delaying the start (like Noon) and/or "brooming" while working corners.
ke ke!
How is one supposed to get rain practice for national events if you cancel when it rains locally? This just breeds more people crying foul and unfair when the show continues at national events (tours/pros).
Run in the rain, get used to it. Get the practice.
--kC[/QUOTE]
Our Mustang and Camaro guys like to cancel autoX's because of rain (when they are EVM's).
They come equipped with leaf blowers and brooms should there be standing puddles. Not to mention, delaying the start (like Noon) and/or "brooming" while working corners.
ke ke!
| SWortham | 02-13-2007 11:42 AM |
I've had several autocrosses in heavy rain now but only one was cancelled and it was due to lightning. Actually, some guy received a small zap while holding an umbrella. Somehow it wasn't a full-powered lightning strike but it was enough to make him drop the umbrella. They ended the event after that.
| Draken | 02-13-2007 12:12 PM |
I seem to recall the first day of the Fontana Pro last year getting washed out after lots of delays with the timers and heavy rain. We were given 6 runs on Sunday to "compensate."
Chris H.
Chris H.
| Jaxx | 02-13-2007 12:15 PM |
yup 1234
| Homemade WRX | 02-13-2007 04:57 PM |
I've had events with the same group where one time we ran and the other time we didn't...the funny thing is for the event we ran, we had standing water...the other was just kinda wet but people (club members competing for points) were bitching...
| maxQ | 02-13-2007 05:22 PM |
[QUOTE=Homemade WRX;17040533]I've had events with the same group where one time we ran and the other time we didn't...the funny thing is for the event we ran, we had standing water...the other was just kinda wet but people (club members competing for points) were bitching...[/QUOTE]
Who was that? TSCC?
<---loves running in the rain... as long as the course is wet all day.
Who was that? TSCC?
<---loves running in the rain... as long as the course is wet all day.
| Draken | 02-13-2007 06:26 PM |
I just remembered that all these NESIC guys claiming to be wet weather supermen do occasionally close down events. We had an event in 2004 closed when the rain at NHIS was pouring like almighty Hoppe. No lightening present, but lots of rain. A bunch of us huddled under the bleachers next to Matt Murrays Porsche and made fun of GTF. NER SCCA closed it down just after lunch.
Chris H.
Chris H.
| Georgethefierce | 02-14-2007 07:20 AM |
[QUOTE=Draken;17041757]I just remembered that all these NESIC guys claiming to be wet weather supermen do occasionally close down events. We had an event in 2004 closed when the rain at NHIS was pouring like almighty Hoppe. No lightening present, but lots of rain. A bunch of us huddled under the bleachers next to Matt Murrays Porsche and made fun of GTF. NER SCCA closed it down just after lunch.
Chris H.[/QUOTE]
you had me at Porsche
Chris H.[/QUOTE]
you had me at Porsche
| fliz | 02-14-2007 08:49 AM |
[QUOTE=Georgethefierce;17047483]you had me at Porsche[/QUOTE]
Which reminds me...the Porsche club here will often rent out the other half of the lot we run on. If there's even a chance of rain they'll shut it down. Hell, if it gets cloudy they usually pack up and go home.
Which reminds me...the Porsche club here will often rent out the other half of the lot we run on. If there's even a chance of rain they'll shut it down. Hell, if it gets cloudy they usually pack up and go home.
| Harry | 02-14-2007 09:28 AM |
Subaru Challenge
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Last year's Subaru Challenge at Ripken Stadium in Aberdeen, MD was held in cold, POURING rain. Roster tails from all four wheels on the morning runs (me, working 1st, running 2nd :( ) - the afternoon classes had just a wet course and sun :furious:
SOA said they would run it rain or shine and they meant it :eek:
That said, canceling an AX when active lightning strikes are in the area is obvious. No lightning that day, just RAIN.
Evidence (Acquacow's RSTi):
[IMG]http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9/hhogenka/Pix/DSC_0722.jpg[/IMG]
Many more pix from that Challenge and other AX at Acquacow's site:
(Thanks for the great pix, Dave)
[url]http://dave.oc7.org/images/2006.09.16.subaru.challenge/[/url]
SOA said they would run it rain or shine and they meant it :eek:
That said, canceling an AX when active lightning strikes are in the area is obvious. No lightning that day, just RAIN.
Evidence (Acquacow's RSTi):
[IMG]http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9/hhogenka/Pix/DSC_0722.jpg[/IMG]
Many more pix from that Challenge and other AX at Acquacow's site:
(Thanks for the great pix, Dave)
[url]http://dave.oc7.org/images/2006.09.16.subaru.challenge/[/url]
| Robin2 | 02-14-2007 11:48 AM |
last event of the year for us in the rain:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mG5Wx9RKKU[/url]
On my last run, I borrowed my friend's street tires (hankook z212) cause my V710 were dead...
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mG5Wx9RKKU[/url]
On my last run, I borrowed my friend's street tires (hankook z212) cause my V710 were dead...
| solo-x | 02-14-2007 12:41 PM |
[QUOTE=Draken;17041757]I just remembered that all these NESIC guys claiming to be wet weather supermen do occasionally close down events. We had an event in 2004 closed when the rain at NHIS was pouring like almighty Hoppe. No lightening present, but lots of rain. A bunch of us huddled under the bleachers next to Matt Murrays Porsche and made fun of GTF. NER SCCA closed it down just after lunch.
Chris H.[/QUOTE]
If it is the event I'm thinking of, everyone got 2 runs and half got three runs. It was called for a combination of things. IIRC, the timing lights weren't working consistently, the tunnel to the infield was flooded, there was a tornado in the area, it was NHIS, and PZ oiled the course down with his SoloVee. Is that the event you are talking about?
Chris H.[/QUOTE]
If it is the event I'm thinking of, everyone got 2 runs and half got three runs. It was called for a combination of things. IIRC, the timing lights weren't working consistently, the tunnel to the infield was flooded, there was a tornado in the area, it was NHIS, and PZ oiled the course down with his SoloVee. Is that the event you are talking about?
| merlot | 02-14-2007 12:56 PM |
In South Jersey a few years ago, we continued to run even though it was snowing. Guess that makes our region hardcore :D
Though it did suck working in it with wet jeans on.... :lol:
Though it did suck working in it with wet jeans on.... :lol:
| soldmyboxster | 02-14-2007 05:59 PM |
I attended an autocross once that was being held in a constant downpour. All the rungroups dealt with the rain and it made the course more fun, since there was much more sliding and recovery efforts going on.
There wasn't much chance of cancellation, since everyone was already there with rain gear on, and we were ready to run.
The only time an event was cancelled was because the high school we were using had a softball game starting at the same time, and the softball spectators basically took our parking spots.
There wasn't much chance of cancellation, since everyone was already there with rain gear on, and we were ready to run.
The only time an event was cancelled was because the high school we were using had a softball game starting at the same time, and the softball spectators basically took our parking spots.
| Georgethefierce | 02-14-2007 06:37 PM |
[QUOTE=solo-x;17050608]If it is the event I'm thinking of, everyone got 2 runs and half got three runs. It was called for a combination of things. IIRC, the timing lights weren't working consistently, the tunnel to the infield was flooded, there was a tornado in the area, it was NHIS, and PZ oiled the course down with his SoloVee. Is that the event you are talking about?[/QUOTE]
IIRC yup.
IIRC yup.
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