| draggin wagon04 | 10-19-2004 01:47 PM |
Left Foot Aches after Auto-X
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I have been doing this Solo2 autocross thing casually for about 2 seasons now. Lately, my foot aches the next day for a few days following.
I am guessing it's because I use that foot to anchor my body weight for the six runs.
I run D-Stock, I haven't learned to lfbrake and I use a standard seat belt as a harness.
Can I do something else w/ that foot, and stay anchored? I know, I am being a wuss. Is this a sign that a harness may be necessary/beneficial?
-And the pain is worth the rush.
I am guessing it's because I use that foot to anchor my body weight for the six runs.
I run D-Stock, I haven't learned to lfbrake and I use a standard seat belt as a harness.
Can I do something else w/ that foot, and stay anchored? I know, I am being a wuss. Is this a sign that a harness may be necessary/beneficial?
-And the pain is worth the rush.
| afpdl | 10-19-2004 02:00 PM |
You are probably just anchoring yourself alot more then is neccasary and you dont realize it. I have a harness and a race seat which hold me tight enough so I dont have to anchor anything but every now and then I will kill my right knee by shoving it up towards the dash even though there is no reason too.
So just try and relax more, and a used $60 clip in harness wont hurt either.
So just try and relax more, and a used $60 clip in harness wont hurt either.
| jcroy66 | 10-19-2004 02:02 PM |
A few tips to tighten yourself in. FWIW, it can help to have someone else assist you. :)
1. Starting seat position: a few notches back from your "driving position". Seat elevation is all the way down (using the lever on the left-side of the seat).
2. Pull on your seat belt and get it to "lock".
3. Move your seat forward to your "driving position".
4. Ratchet your seat elevation up several notches.
That should help anchor you with stock equipment. However, harnesses do help immensely - I highly recommend picking up one up.
1. Starting seat position: a few notches back from your "driving position". Seat elevation is all the way down (using the lever on the left-side of the seat).
2. Pull on your seat belt and get it to "lock".
3. Move your seat forward to your "driving position".
4. Ratchet your seat elevation up several notches.
That should help anchor you with stock equipment. However, harnesses do help immensely - I highly recommend picking up one up.
| bemani | 10-19-2004 02:06 PM |
I think a racing seat + stock belt secures you more than a harness + stock seat, and its only < $300 for a seat.
But maybe you're hurting because you're standing around all day. I know that's why my feet hurt after a day of autox.
But maybe you're hurting because you're standing around all day. I know that's why my feet hurt after a day of autox.
| afpdl | 10-19-2004 02:15 PM |
[QUOTE=bemani]I think a racing seat + stock belt secures you more than a harness + stock seat, and its only < $300 for a seat.
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Hes running D-Stock
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Hes running D-Stock
| Brett555 | 10-19-2004 02:25 PM |
[QUOTE=draggin wagon04]I have been doing this Solo2 autocross thing casually for about 2 seasons now. Lately, my foot aches the next day for a few days following. I am guessing it's because I use that foot to anchor my body weight for the six runs.
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Been there done that. Before installing a harness in my 2.5 RS, I used to get a bruise on my right knee from bracing it against the console. I also would occasionally pop the power window mechanism out of the door panel because my left knee was pushing against it. Race seats would definitely help, but since you are in stock class and can't do that, a harness like the Schroth Rallye 4 would help a ton.
Brett at SoloRacer.com
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Been there done that. Before installing a harness in my 2.5 RS, I used to get a bruise on my right knee from bracing it against the console. I also would occasionally pop the power window mechanism out of the door panel because my left knee was pushing against it. Race seats would definitely help, but since you are in stock class and can't do that, a harness like the Schroth Rallye 4 would help a ton.
Brett at SoloRacer.com
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[URL=http://www.teamsoloracer.com/]http://www.teamsoloracer.com/[/URL]
| wrx2.0 555 | 10-19-2004 02:45 PM |
[QUOTE=afpdl]So just try and relax more[/QUOTE]....
| KC | 10-19-2004 03:04 PM |
[QUOTE=afpdl]So just try and relax more.[/QUOTE]
Sunday drive.. it's just a Sunday drive. :) I'm so relaxed behind the wheel now, looking ahead that if I have a passenger, I hold a conversation through the whole course (usually about 1.1 miles)
--kC
Sunday drive.. it's just a Sunday drive. :) I'm so relaxed behind the wheel now, looking ahead that if I have a passenger, I hold a conversation through the whole course (usually about 1.1 miles)
--kC
| IcemanSS454 | 10-19-2004 03:09 PM |
Schroth Rallye 4 is the way to go. I run DS also but being a skinny guy I got thrown around alot. The Schroth took a half hour for my buddy and I to bolt in. Its and easy install but it helps to have two sets of hands. I still use the stock belts on the road and the Schroth for autox. When not in use it just tucks under the seats.
Now I can left foot brake which definelty helps alot. Plus not having to worry about bracing yourself means that you can concentrate completely on the driving.
Now I can left foot brake which definelty helps alot. Plus not having to worry about bracing yourself means that you can concentrate completely on the driving.
| 555ideways | 10-19-2004 03:10 PM |
a few beers before hand should loosen you right up.
| dadswrx | 10-19-2004 03:54 PM |
In addition to the stock belt, add an extra lap belt so you can cinch yourself in tight. That will solve your problem.
Mike
02 WRX Wagon
Mike
02 WRX Wagon
| draggin wagon04 | 10-19-2004 03:56 PM |
[[email�protected]]Been there done that. Before installing a harness in my 2.5 RS, I used to get a bruise on my right knee from bracing it against the console. I also would occasionally pop the power window mechanism out of the door panel because my left knee was pushing against it. Race seats would definitely help, but since you are in stock class and can't do that, a harness like the Schroth Rallye 4 would help a ton.
Brett at SoloRacer.com
[URL=http://www.soloracer.com/]http://www.soloracer.com/[/URL]
[URL=http://www.teamsoloracer.com/]http://www.teamsoloracer.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]
"UPDATE: We expect these harness belts to be available by the end of October 2004"
Are they available yet? will they be in the $155 or 230 range?
[QUOTE=KC]Sunday drive.. it's just a Sunday drive. I'm so relaxed behind the wheel now, looking ahead that if I have a passenger, I hold a conversation through the whole course (usually about 1.1 miles)
--kC
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KC- Is it fun anymore if it's that simple? I'll answer it... Yes.
Brett at SoloRacer.com
[URL=http://www.soloracer.com/]http://www.soloracer.com/[/URL]
[URL=http://www.teamsoloracer.com/]http://www.teamsoloracer.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]
"UPDATE: We expect these harness belts to be available by the end of October 2004"
Are they available yet? will they be in the $155 or 230 range?
[QUOTE=KC]Sunday drive.. it's just a Sunday drive. I'm so relaxed behind the wheel now, looking ahead that if I have a passenger, I hold a conversation through the whole course (usually about 1.1 miles)
--kC
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KC- Is it fun anymore if it's that simple? I'll answer it... Yes.
| ChrisDP | 10-19-2004 04:33 PM |
Get one of these... available at Walmart for $10-$16. Cheap, effective solution. [URL=http://www.mightytite.com/Pages/mightytite.html]Mightytite[/URL]
| rautox | 10-19-2004 04:45 PM |
[QUOTE=draggin wagon04]Is this a sign that a harness may be necessary/beneficial?[/QUOTE]
I found mine to be a help. When I first started, I had a hard time staying in place. Being dinky, I float around in just about any stock seat. Not an ideal platform for concentration.
I picked up a harness and ran the lap belt between the seat bottom and back, not around the sides. I'd tighten it up and then make like a fat man to buckle it tight (and then remember that I couldn't reach the door :lol: ). That really glued my butt down. And I found ALL of the controls easier to deal with once I using them ONLY for controlling the car.
I'm more relaxed now during a run, and don't find myself locking in as tightly. But the harness helped with that bracing thing early on.
I found mine to be a help. When I first started, I had a hard time staying in place. Being dinky, I float around in just about any stock seat. Not an ideal platform for concentration.
I picked up a harness and ran the lap belt between the seat bottom and back, not around the sides. I'd tighten it up and then make like a fat man to buckle it tight (and then remember that I couldn't reach the door :lol: ). That really glued my butt down. And I found ALL of the controls easier to deal with once I using them ONLY for controlling the car.
I'm more relaxed now during a run, and don't find myself locking in as tightly. But the harness helped with that bracing thing early on.
| cooleyjb | 10-19-2004 05:39 PM |
[QUOTE=draggin wagon04]
I run D-Stock, I haven't learned to lfbrake and I use a standard seat belt as a harness.
Can I do something else w/ that foot.
-And the pain is worth the rush.[/QUOTE]
Use that foot to get you to the store to buy some parts and jump into STX next year. We are going to have a serious WRX STX contingent in Wisconsin next year. :devil: Even if MNBiker has run off to those silly little Miatas :p
As for what you can do. A harness is really nice. A cheap upgrade for comfort on the course
I run D-Stock, I haven't learned to lfbrake and I use a standard seat belt as a harness.
Can I do something else w/ that foot.
-And the pain is worth the rush.[/QUOTE]
Use that foot to get you to the store to buy some parts and jump into STX next year. We are going to have a serious WRX STX contingent in Wisconsin next year. :devil: Even if MNBiker has run off to those silly little Miatas :p
As for what you can do. A harness is really nice. A cheap upgrade for comfort on the course
| abaxter34 | 10-19-2004 06:17 PM |
[url]http://www.cg-lock.com/[/url]
| dadswrx | 10-19-2004 07:46 PM |
[QUOTE=abaxter34][url]http://www.cg-lock.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
I suffered with this thing all through 2004. A basic lap belt in combination with the stock harness is sooooooooo much better.
Mike
02 WRX Wagon
I suffered with this thing all through 2004. A basic lap belt in combination with the stock harness is sooooooooo much better.
Mike
02 WRX Wagon
| thechickencow | 10-19-2004 08:18 PM |
Is it possible its just from standing on the concrete all day?
| Achilles38WRX | 10-19-2004 09:27 PM |
draggin, from the way i saw you spinning on sunday, its no suprise your foot hurts from bracing yourself! j/k ;)
i bought a $15 "Torso Harness" from racerwholesale.com a while back. basically just an adjustable strap that holds you to the seat better, no bolts necesary. just a suggestion, albiet a cheap and lazy one! :lol:
i bought a $15 "Torso Harness" from racerwholesale.com a while back. basically just an adjustable strap that holds you to the seat better, no bolts necesary. just a suggestion, albiet a cheap and lazy one! :lol:
| draggin wagon04 | 10-20-2004 09:44 AM |
Dadswrx- do you have a lapbelt recommendation that has worked for you?
Jay- I don't think that's the case... I do sit all day at work, my feet may not be used to it, but it's always the left one. When I started auto-xing in Texas, we ususally only got 3-4 runs. But stood on the course just as much. Hats off to the efficiency of the MKE sCCA, TSSSC and WAI guys (probably same guys, from what I guess).
Achilles- Yeah- the only excuse I have is I havent done an event since July, or was that early september? I already forgot how to keep the car settled- or was just too excited. Does this torso harness work or not? Is it half-@ssed- is that why you call it cheap and lazy. For $15 I will give it a try. I know I will probably get what I pay for.
Joe- I really want to. But there are so many parts to get right away... springs, shocks, and tbe all come to mind immediately. Lets see what I get back in taxes-
Thanks for the good input so far.
Jay- I don't think that's the case... I do sit all day at work, my feet may not be used to it, but it's always the left one. When I started auto-xing in Texas, we ususally only got 3-4 runs. But stood on the course just as much. Hats off to the efficiency of the MKE sCCA, TSSSC and WAI guys (probably same guys, from what I guess).
Achilles- Yeah- the only excuse I have is I havent done an event since July, or was that early september? I already forgot how to keep the car settled- or was just too excited. Does this torso harness work or not? Is it half-@ssed- is that why you call it cheap and lazy. For $15 I will give it a try. I know I will probably get what I pay for.
Joe- I really want to. But there are so many parts to get right away... springs, shocks, and tbe all come to mind immediately. Lets see what I get back in taxes-
Thanks for the good input so far.
| Achilles38WRX | 10-20-2004 10:02 AM |
[QUOTE=draggin wagon04]Does this torso harness work or not? Is it half-@ssed- is that why you call it cheap and lazy. For $15 I will give it a try. I know I will probably get what I pay for.
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its not as good as the real deal, but it does keep you in your seat a lot better.
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its not as good as the real deal, but it does keep you in your seat a lot better.
| DrBiggly | 10-20-2004 11:00 AM |
Instead of the CG-lock (which I've heard some folks can't get to work on a Subaru? I dunno, haven't played with one) who has tried the good ol' fashioned babyseat lock?
| 8Complex | 10-20-2004 12:25 PM |
Lose some weight, you won't have to strain so much to stay in place. ;)
| trhoppe | 10-20-2004 12:33 PM |
Get a harness. Then it can look like you actually have a race kaaa.
-Tom
-Tom
| PKer | 10-20-2004 12:52 PM |
I give the seatbelt a few twists before I click.
-Better than nothing
-Better than nothing
| jcroy66 | 10-20-2004 01:23 PM |
[QUOTE=8Complex]Lose some weight, you won't have to strain so much to stay in place. ;)[/QUOTE]
Or gain it. :p We got one of our Pro 2000s in yesterday. Upon sitting in it, the first thing I noticed was that my shoulders felt too loose. I tried moving the kidney pads to my shoulders, and ok now my shoulders are secure, but my waist no longer fits!! *sigh*
And here I thought losing weight was supposed to make me fastAr... :lol:
Or gain it. :p We got one of our Pro 2000s in yesterday. Upon sitting in it, the first thing I noticed was that my shoulders felt too loose. I tried moving the kidney pads to my shoulders, and ok now my shoulders are secure, but my waist no longer fits!! *sigh*
And here I thought losing weight was supposed to make me fastAr... :lol:
| Brett555 | 10-20-2004 01:47 PM |
[QUOTE=jcroy66]Or gain it. :p We got one of our Pro 2000s in yesterday.[/QUOTE]
Make sure you invite me to the Sparco seat install party ;)
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Make sure you invite me to the Sparco seat install party ;)
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Brett at SoloRacer.com
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| draggin wagon04 | 10-20-2004 02:29 PM |
I do the "twist" of the seatbelt. I don't need to loose weight. ;) 5'8" 165# ~12% BodyFat, like long walks on the beach...
| fireball_jones | 10-20-2004 02:45 PM |
[QUOTE=draggin wagon04]I do the "twist" of the seatbelt. I don't need to loose weight. ;) 5'8" 165# ~12% BodyFat, like long walks on the beach...[/QUOTE]
Seriously, put on some weight. I'm 5'8'' and 155, and I fall out of the seat on normal street corners :lol:
Seriously, put on some weight. I'm 5'8'' and 155, and I fall out of the seat on normal street corners :lol:
| jcroy66 | 10-20-2004 03:38 PM |
Brett, you're invited. :) Second seat was delivered this morning. I believe Phil is planning on installing the seats tonight while I'm at the hairstylist's, dying my hair to match the seats. :lol:
| Calamity Jesus | 10-20-2004 04:35 PM |
I'm using a Schroth harness. Highly reccomended. It takes a little while to get used to relaxing, but the difference in the driving is dramatic.
| dadswrx | 10-20-2004 08:10 PM |
[QUOTE=draggin wagon04]Dadswrx- do you have a lapbelt recommendation that has worked for you?[/QUOTE]
I purchased a 3-inch 5pt harness from Summit Racing about 12 years ago. In my GTI w/roll cage I used the whole harness. In my WRX, I just bolted the lap belt to the stock belt location (in conjunction with the stock belt).
DrBiggly: The CG Lock works in an STi, so I don't see why it wouldn't work in any Subaru. Also, I've used the baby seat clips before as a last resort. The lap belt is by far the easiest way to go IMO.
Mike
02 WRX Wagon
I purchased a 3-inch 5pt harness from Summit Racing about 12 years ago. In my GTI w/roll cage I used the whole harness. In my WRX, I just bolted the lap belt to the stock belt location (in conjunction with the stock belt).
DrBiggly: The CG Lock works in an STi, so I don't see why it wouldn't work in any Subaru. Also, I've used the baby seat clips before as a last resort. The lap belt is by far the easiest way to go IMO.
Mike
02 WRX Wagon
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