| bigworm | 02-19-2006 12:44 PM |
lip without the use of sti splitters?
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does anyone make a lip that doesnt require the use of the sti splitters ive looked at the cusco one but i was thinking of just a flat v limited type lip like on the 06's where it doesnt have the splitters hanging down... any help would be appreciated.
| SUBYDOODIE | 02-19-2006 12:50 PM |
ill save you from everyone saying SEARCH NOOB... and here you go
[IMG]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/ahnickel4yakiss/subyvlimitnostisplit2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/ahnickel4yakiss/subyvlimitnostisplit.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/ahnickel4yakiss/subyvlimitnostisplit2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/ahnickel4yakiss/subyvlimitnostisplit.jpg[/IMG]
| bigworm | 02-19-2006 12:57 PM |
which one is that? thanks!
| MD04WRX | 02-19-2006 12:57 PM |
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=651932&highlight=king+imports[/url]
TRU lip 3rd and 4th photos.
TRU lip 3rd and 4th photos.
| theicewall | 02-19-2006 12:57 PM |
I like those lips, but I think they look much better with the STi splitters in place. Any particular reason you dont want the splitters, just wondering? You do lose a half an inch clearance with the splitter + lip than with just the lip I THINK and I suppose its cheaper not to buy them but I would like to hear your opinion.
| wrxzboost | 02-19-2006 01:28 PM |
definetley needs some splitters, but then again splitters + lip = possibility of cracking. either way its your choice buy i'd just save up for either a cusco lip or a gp sport lip. for just a little bit more you can skip the splitters and lip and just get one of those and have better clearance. my $0.02
| SUBYDOODIE | 02-19-2006 02:05 PM |
gp sport lip?
| theicewall | 02-19-2006 02:29 PM |
Honestly I think the GP sport lip looks kind of ugly with the arc in the middle section. Also, it should be noted that there is a tradeoff between function of a front lip and clearance. As clearance is increased function is decreased. My car is too low to go over many speed bumps anyway since I put springs, ALK, + Cusco V-brace on the car. The alk requires spacers for the subframe and the V-brace is slightly lower than the subframe, and we all know what springs do.
| twentynine | 02-19-2006 02:52 PM |
I prefer the JDM STi lip myself. Here's a link I found on these forums with a pic.
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=650788[/url]
[url]http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=650788[/url]
| bigworm | 02-19-2006 03:02 PM |
i dont see much difference between the tru sti lip and the v limited lip except for the sti badge was not in the middle... the reason i didnt want to run sti splitters which i may do now is because they dont look right without the fog covers and with a rs hood, which i will be getting. i like my foglights too, anyway i have to see more pics. i definitely like the look of the splitters better i also like the cusco lip as well i just want to see a side profile pic of it it looks to hang lower than the wrx sideskirts
| BIGSKYWRX | 02-19-2006 03:20 PM |
I don't think kingpin is carrying the TRU lips any more- I like the look of the TRU, but not the fact it's fiberglass.
If someone wanted to make some dough, ray, me- make a urethane "TRU like" lip- they would sell like hot cakes.
If someone wanted to make some dough, ray, me- make a urethane "TRU like" lip- they would sell like hot cakes.
| bigworm | 02-19-2006 04:06 PM |
like um... the v limited?
| Blk_on_Blk_Wgn | 02-19-2006 04:56 PM |
Yeah^^^ but that only works WITH the splitters..he is looking for one that works without
| theicewall | 02-19-2006 05:12 PM |
Plus the v-limited costs a whole hell of a lot for a tiny little lip. An ABS or Urethane lip made from the mold of the Tru lip could cost $300 and then it would sell like hot cakes. For $500 there are other things I would rather buy.
| wrxzboost | 02-19-2006 05:24 PM |
[QUOTE=theicewall]Honestly I think the GP sport lip looks kind of ugly with the arc in the middle section. Also, it should be noted that there is a tradeoff between function of a front lip and clearance. As clearance is increased function is decreased. My car is too low to go over many speed bumps anyway since I put springs, ALK, + Cusco V-brace on the car. The alk requires spacers for the subframe and the V-brace is slightly lower than the subframe, and we all know what springs do.[/QUOTE]
well the cusco lip is wind tunnel tested to be functional and has better clearance than the sti splitters and v-limited lip combo. the gp sport lip does have an arc for the best clearance, but i doubt they've tested its functionality. either way it won't make a tremendous difference.
i would only consider urethane lips due to its durability and fitment. fiberglass is garbage and will fit like crap and will crack or break much easier than urethane.
04-05 oem foglights suck...might was well either spend the $$$$ and get the jdm fogs or cover them up with covers cuz they're honestly worthless!
well the cusco lip is wind tunnel tested to be functional and has better clearance than the sti splitters and v-limited lip combo. the gp sport lip does have an arc for the best clearance, but i doubt they've tested its functionality. either way it won't make a tremendous difference.
i would only consider urethane lips due to its durability and fitment. fiberglass is garbage and will fit like crap and will crack or break much easier than urethane.
04-05 oem foglights suck...might was well either spend the $$$$ and get the jdm fogs or cover them up with covers cuz they're honestly worthless!
| wrxzboost | 02-19-2006 05:26 PM |
heres the gp sport lip on nytmare's car. looks really nice IMO
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/wrxzboost/gpsport.jpg[/IMG]
and here is the cusco lip on pitstops car...best looking STI
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/wrxzboost/sti57eq.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/wrxzboost/gpsport.jpg[/IMG]
and here is the cusco lip on pitstops car...best looking STI
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/wrxzboost/sti57eq.jpg[/IMG]
| gNarkill | 02-19-2006 05:32 PM |
ya cusco for the win. the other lips dont look as aggressive without the sti splitters
| bigworm | 02-19-2006 05:52 PM |
ok i do like the cusco lip the best anymore shots of pitstops car???
| wrxzboost | 02-19-2006 06:19 PM |
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/wrxzboost/search29yd.gif[/IMG]
pitstops in members car gallery
pitstops in members car gallery
| theicewall | 02-19-2006 07:17 PM |
[QUOTE=wrxzboost]well the cusco lip is wind tunnel tested to be functional and has better clearance than the sti splitters and v-limited lip combo. the gp sport lip does have an arc for the best clearance, but i doubt they've tested its functionality. either way it won't make a tremendous difference.
i would only consider urethane lips due to its durability and fitment. fiberglass is garbage and will fit like crap and will crack or break much easier than urethane.
04-05 oem foglights suck...might was well either spend the $$$$ and get the jdm fogs or cover them up with covers cuz they're honestly worthless![/QUOTE]
They didnt test the cusco lip as a separate entity, they combined it with their underspoiler that functionally covers the entire under tray of the front portion of the vehicle. That's not a fair comparison, and it should be wind tunnel tested for a combined total of $1,000
i would only consider urethane lips due to its durability and fitment. fiberglass is garbage and will fit like crap and will crack or break much easier than urethane.
04-05 oem foglights suck...might was well either spend the $$$$ and get the jdm fogs or cover them up with covers cuz they're honestly worthless![/QUOTE]
They didnt test the cusco lip as a separate entity, they combined it with their underspoiler that functionally covers the entire under tray of the front portion of the vehicle. That's not a fair comparison, and it should be wind tunnel tested for a combined total of $1,000
| AudiTTkiller | 02-19-2006 07:19 PM |
^haha way better than saying search
| theicewall | 02-19-2006 07:21 PM |
Also, I do like the cusco lip a lot, but I wish there was a way to maintain the splitters on the sides because it gives a little bit more profile. Like if they built the canards of the STi splitters into their lip as one piece. Wow that would be hot.
| wrxzboost | 02-19-2006 07:30 PM |
[QUOTE=AudiTTkiller]^haha way better than saying search[/QUOTE]
you make no sense...he asked for more pictures? so i told him who the owner of the car is and how to exactly "use" the search button.
as for the crybaby whining about a lip that never exists, here's a pick for you. are you saying just because they combined the under tray that the lip is useless?????
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/wrxzboost/dfk_i2.gif[/IMG]
and there are many "more expensive combined parts" that aren't aerodynamically tested it just makes cusco a higher end manufacturer knowing they do test their products.
you make no sense...he asked for more pictures? so i told him who the owner of the car is and how to exactly "use" the search button.
as for the crybaby whining about a lip that never exists, here's a pick for you. are you saying just because they combined the under tray that the lip is useless?????
[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/wrxzboost/dfk_i2.gif[/IMG]
and there are many "more expensive combined parts" that aren't aerodynamically tested it just makes cusco a higher end manufacturer knowing they do test their products.
| wrxzboost | 02-19-2006 07:32 PM |
oh, and the japanese writing does NOT say "not a functional cusco lip" FYI
| theicewall | 02-19-2006 08:57 PM |
Im not saying its useless, please dont try and extrapolate that because thats not at all what i said. I was implying that you cant compare a test of apples and oranges. If you want to be fair to the STi lip you would have to include the cost of a well fitting aluminum undertray and then I would gather that they would be much more evenly matched.
It is a good product, I'm not trying to knock it, but its expensive for what it is.
It is a good product, I'm not trying to knock it, but its expensive for what it is.
| wrxzboost | 02-19-2006 10:26 PM |
[QUOTE=theicewall]If you want to be [B]fair [/B] to the STi lip you would have to include the cost of a well fitting aluminum undertray and then I would gather that they would be much more evenly matched.
It is a good product, I'm not trying to knock it, but its expensive for what it is.[/QUOTE]
some info for your comparison:
sti v-limited lip (without sti splitters) ~ cusco front lip... with splitters and paint on the cusco front lip they're evenly priced.
It is a good product, I'm not trying to knock it, but its expensive for what it is.[/QUOTE]
some info for your comparison:
sti v-limited lip (without sti splitters) ~ cusco front lip... with splitters and paint on the cusco front lip they're evenly priced.
| theicewall | 02-19-2006 11:01 PM |
The cusco lip doesnt work with splitters and I think the V-limited lip is over priced too. I would have gotten a Tru lip or one of the other replicas... or maybe the chargespeed since its carbon at least.
| theicewall | 02-19-2006 11:06 PM |
V-limited lip = $500 + and splitters painted = $125 + Custom Tray = $50
$ = 675
Cusco unpainted = $550 + Aluminum undertray = $500
$ = 1,050 + paint
$ = 675
Cusco unpainted = $550 + Aluminum undertray = $500
$ = 1,050 + paint
| bigworm | 02-19-2006 11:06 PM |
im getting the v limited lip ... the shop that does all my work will be getting one in on one of the clips that they are getting in and ill probably get it for a good deal then ill just get the splitter and either brake cooling ducts or the jdm fogs.
| wrxzboost | 02-20-2006 12:13 AM |
[QUOTE=theicewall]V-limited lip = $500 + and splitters painted = $125 + Custom Tray = $50
$ = 675
Cusco unpainted = $550 + Aluminum undertray = $500
$ = 1,050 + paint[/QUOTE]
dude...your so bias it pisses me off. i just bough a cusco front lip for $380, with shipping it was $460 brand new from a vendor. so how can you compare and price a "custom tray" and cusco's aluminum undertray, your bogus!
$ = 675
Cusco unpainted = $550 + Aluminum undertray = $500
$ = 1,050 + paint[/QUOTE]
dude...your so bias it pisses me off. i just bough a cusco front lip for $380, with shipping it was $460 brand new from a vendor. so how can you compare and price a "custom tray" and cusco's aluminum undertray, your bogus!
| theicewall | 02-20-2006 06:11 AM |
Because with a machine shop, it would only cost me the price of the aluminum and I could duplicate the cusco tray in about an hour. I am not at all biased, I just don't like spending $1,000 on the look of a car when all that you get for it is a front end and not even a whole bumper for crying out loud. You very well might be the only person who has gotten the cusco lip for less than $500, so consider yourself lucky. Remember I never said I don't like it, I said its expensive for a lip. If you can get it for $380 then go ahead and throw a party. Afterall, $1,000 which it ordinarily costs when including the tray would also get you this completed front bumper:
[img]http://www.carview.co.jp/agt/2004/car/photo/launsport/laun_imp/01.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.carview.co.jp/agt/2004/car/photo/launsport/laun_imp/01.jpg[/img]
| wrxzboost | 02-20-2006 04:44 PM |
first of all the original thread never mentioned a tray of any kind with either lip...and i highly think "you very well might be the only person who has" the ability to make a duplicate cusco tray which has nothing to do with this topic. and no, anyone who has the internet can buy the cusco lip from rallysportdirect for under $500 shipped to their front door; if you don't know how to buy online then your out of luck too!
| 2.5 SUBY | 02-20-2006 06:38 PM |
Sti Splitters and true lip it is for my car, i really like that look with the fogs.
| LastResort | 02-20-2006 07:01 PM |
I was all excited to get this, but then I read REVNU's post in the King of Imports thread. That's what I was afraid of.....anybody have a lead on a similar item, but in a more reality compatible material. IE a V limited like lip in urethane that does not require side splitters? And I'm hoping it's not Carbonfiber. The Search is not strong in this one today..... :D
| wrxzboost | 02-20-2006 07:21 PM |
haven't seen any wrx with a lip and no sti splitters except for the few posted up in this thread and i've been on a lookout for lips for quite some time. don't know why, but they look like they're missing something when not using splitters.
| theicewall | 02-20-2006 07:23 PM |
I just made a post the earlier and no one seems to make one yet. There would be a huge market for them if they could keep the price under $350.
Also, I didn't mention the tray until someone started mentioning the fact that the lip was tested in a wind tunnel and faired better than the V-limited lip. I said that isn't necessarily true because the car that had the V-limited lip in the wind tunnel also had the aluminum cusco undertray fitted while no under tray is fitted on the v-limited STi other than the plastic stock thing. That's why that got mentioned. I just didn't want to look at a comparison of apples and oranges because that's what that is. There is a distinct confounding variable in that comparison. Also, you are right about rallysportdirect, but my guess is that is a sale price and wont be that cheap for long since they are the only people selling it for the price and all the other vendors seem to be around 525-575
Also, I didn't mention the tray until someone started mentioning the fact that the lip was tested in a wind tunnel and faired better than the V-limited lip. I said that isn't necessarily true because the car that had the V-limited lip in the wind tunnel also had the aluminum cusco undertray fitted while no under tray is fitted on the v-limited STi other than the plastic stock thing. That's why that got mentioned. I just didn't want to look at a comparison of apples and oranges because that's what that is. There is a distinct confounding variable in that comparison. Also, you are right about rallysportdirect, but my guess is that is a sale price and wont be that cheap for long since they are the only people selling it for the price and all the other vendors seem to be around 525-575
| theicewall | 02-20-2006 07:26 PM |
Also $360 from [url]www.rallysportdirect.com[/url] is the following, which would solve your cracking and damage worries.
[img]http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/images/gtspecvlimitedcarbon1RSD.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/images/gtspecvlimitedcarbon1RSD.jpg[/img]
| Handsdown | 02-20-2006 09:04 PM |
[QUOTE=theicewall][carbon fiber...] ...which would solve your cracking and damage worries.
[/QUOTE]
umm... i know that carbon fiber is hard to damage...
but it will crack and splinter more than anything else, discounting fiberglass. for a front lip, you want urethane or pliable plastic, like FRPS or ABS. CF is strong but it's also rigid, and will splinter and crack fairly similarly to fiberglass.
[/QUOTE]
umm... i know that carbon fiber is hard to damage...
but it will crack and splinter more than anything else, discounting fiberglass. for a front lip, you want urethane or pliable plastic, like FRPS or ABS. CF is strong but it's also rigid, and will splinter and crack fairly similarly to fiberglass.
| LastResort | 02-20-2006 09:18 PM |
Thanks guys, I haven't found anything either, and I've been searching for a while as well. Truth be told, I think the lip without splitters will have a higher WAF*, so that's why it probably wont happen for me any time soon. I was very surprised when I discovered that I like the 06 with splitters much more than the 04/05.
*WAF = Wife Approval Factor
*WAF = Wife Approval Factor
| 00Maddog | 02-20-2006 09:19 PM |
[QUOTE=SUBYDOODIE]
[IMG]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/ahnickel4yakiss/subyvlimitnostisplit.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
what kind of flaps are those? tia
[IMG]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/ahnickel4yakiss/subyvlimitnostisplit.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
what kind of flaps are those? tia
| wrxzboost | 02-21-2006 12:06 AM |
[QUOTE=theicewall]I just made a post the earlier and no one seems to make one yet. There would be a huge market for them if they could keep the price under $350.
Also, I didn't mention the tray until someone started mentioning the fact that [B]the lip was tested in a wind tunnel and faired better than the V-limited lip[/B]. I said that isn't necessarily true because the car that had the V-limited lip in the wind tunnel also had the aluminum cusco undertray fitted while no under tray is fitted on the v-limited STi other than the plastic stock thing. That's why that got mentioned. I just didn't want to look at a comparison of apples and oranges because that's what that is. There is a distinct confounding variable in that comparison. Also, you are right about rallysportdirect, but my guess is that is a sale price and wont be that cheap for long since [B]they are the only people selling it for the price [/B] and all the other vendors seem to be around 525-575[/QUOTE]
i never said the cusco lip was more functional than the sti splitters and v-limited lip, i said it had better clearance. and chris from cvrmotorsports has better prices then rallysportdirect. that's where i ordered from
Also, I didn't mention the tray until someone started mentioning the fact that [B]the lip was tested in a wind tunnel and faired better than the V-limited lip[/B]. I said that isn't necessarily true because the car that had the V-limited lip in the wind tunnel also had the aluminum cusco undertray fitted while no under tray is fitted on the v-limited STi other than the plastic stock thing. That's why that got mentioned. I just didn't want to look at a comparison of apples and oranges because that's what that is. There is a distinct confounding variable in that comparison. Also, you are right about rallysportdirect, but my guess is that is a sale price and wont be that cheap for long since [B]they are the only people selling it for the price [/B] and all the other vendors seem to be around 525-575[/QUOTE]
i never said the cusco lip was more functional than the sti splitters and v-limited lip, i said it had better clearance. and chris from cvrmotorsports has better prices then rallysportdirect. that's where i ordered from
| theicewall | 02-21-2006 06:28 AM |
[QUOTE=wrxzboost]well the cusco lip is wind tunnel tested to be functional and has better clearance than the sti splitters and v-limited lip combo. the gp sport lip does have an arc for the best clearance, but i doubt they've tested its functionality. either way it won't make a tremendous difference.
i would only consider urethane lips due to its durability and fitment. fiberglass is garbage and will fit like crap and will crack or break much easier than urethane.
04-05 oem foglights suck...might was well either spend the $$$$ and get the jdm fogs or cover them up with covers cuz they're honestly worthless![/QUOTE]
You are right, you just never mentioned that the V-limited lip is also wind tunnel tested. Anyway, I think we've beaten this to death and tried to present both sides of the argument very well for this guy. It's all up to him now.
i would only consider urethane lips due to its durability and fitment. fiberglass is garbage and will fit like crap and will crack or break much easier than urethane.
04-05 oem foglights suck...might was well either spend the $$$$ and get the jdm fogs or cover them up with covers cuz they're honestly worthless![/QUOTE]
You are right, you just never mentioned that the V-limited lip is also wind tunnel tested. Anyway, I think we've beaten this to death and tried to present both sides of the argument very well for this guy. It's all up to him now.
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