| Flipgod | 09-11-2006 08:08 PM |
Powder coating STi wheels
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does anyone know much about powder coating the STi BBS wheels?
I have herd that when they heat them up to apply the powder coat that they will sometimes get messed up in the process. Is there any truth to this?
Thankyou in advance for any help.:)
I have herd that when they heat them up to apply the powder coat that they will sometimes get messed up in the process. Is there any truth to this?
Thankyou in advance for any help.:)
| tasq | 09-11-2006 08:17 PM |
There are 2 powdercoating methods.
DO NOT
I REPEAT... DO NOT use the spray and bake method. This process weakens the alloy on your wheels and you WILL bend them.
Instead use a place that uses the chemical dip method.
It will run you 50 - 80 a wheel depending on your area.
Hope this helps!
DO NOT
I REPEAT... DO NOT use the spray and bake method. This process weakens the alloy on your wheels and you WILL bend them.
Instead use a place that uses the chemical dip method.
It will run you 50 - 80 a wheel depending on your area.
Hope this helps!
| Flipgod | 09-11-2006 10:14 PM |
Exactly what i was looking for.
I had no idea that there was an alternative to baking.
Gracias!!:)
I had no idea that there was an alternative to baking.
Gracias!!:)
| volkl23 | 09-11-2006 11:00 PM |
No idea either. Is the chemical dip method more of a boutique method? Sounds like it might be hard to find a place who actually does it.
| Shewillbemine | 09-12-2006 12:08 AM |
There's also the do-it-yourself spray paint method.
| FWD WRX | 09-12-2006 12:38 AM |
[QUOTE=Shewillbemine;15211703]There's also the do-it-yourself spray paint method.[/QUOTE]
+1. many members have done it. just make sure you do a good job prepping
+1. many members have done it. just make sure you do a good job prepping
| Flipgod | 09-12-2006 10:35 AM |
[QUOTE=Shewillbemine;15211703]There's also the do-it-yourself spray paint method.[/QUOTE]
Ya but doesnt that fade and you end up having to do it like monthly?
I want something that is going to last and [u]look good[/u].
/shrugs
Ya but doesnt that fade and you end up having to do it like monthly?
I want something that is going to last and [u]look good[/u].
/shrugs
| NutBucket | 09-12-2006 10:45 AM |
[QUOTE=Flipgod;15215285]Ya but doesnt that fade and you end up having to do it like monthly?
I want something that is going to last and [u]look good[/u].
/shrugs[/QUOTE]
Spray it and clear it. The clear is the key.
I want something that is going to last and [u]look good[/u].
/shrugs[/QUOTE]
Spray it and clear it. The clear is the key.
| anjion24 | 09-12-2006 10:50 AM |
Her is a pic of my car with black powder coated rims!! They are dipped.[IMG]http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g100/anjion/339cd029.jpg[/IMG]
| elsanto | 09-12-2006 11:00 AM |
i had a set of technomagnesio rims baked. High quality rims like BBS shouldnt be an issue.. when you rebake them a bunch of times they can really fatigue. I was told what happens is any impurities or air trapped in the metal expands differently than the alloy causing the issues.
| tasq | 09-12-2006 11:07 AM |
[QUOTE=elsanto;15215587]i had a set of technomagnesio rims baked. High quality rims like BBS shouldnt be an issue.. when you rebake them a bunch of times they can really fatigue. I was told what happens is any impurities or air trapped in the metal expands differently than the alloy causing the issues.[/QUOTE]
Check your facts :rolleyes: It is all about the molecular struture of the alloy. Please quit spreading information that is false.
Straight from BBS:
[I]The heat involved with stripping the finish and powder coating process will compromise the structural integrity of your wheel. If you change the color, paint it like you would paint your car. Thanks for asking first!!
Thanks again,
Michael Cox
BBS of America
[/I]
DO NOT BAKE YOUR BBS. PERIOD.
I know several people who have used the chem dip with no issue.
Check your facts :rolleyes: It is all about the molecular struture of the alloy. Please quit spreading information that is false.
Straight from BBS:
[I]The heat involved with stripping the finish and powder coating process will compromise the structural integrity of your wheel. If you change the color, paint it like you would paint your car. Thanks for asking first!!
Thanks again,
Michael Cox
BBS of America
[/I]
DO NOT BAKE YOUR BBS. PERIOD.
I know several people who have used the chem dip with no issue.
| Aarron_M | 09-12-2006 04:20 PM |
^^^Thank you for correcting that. :)
| drain bramage | 09-12-2006 04:26 PM |
ive had my oz sl's baked twice now... i hope my wheelz dont explode.
ive never heard of what tasq is saying, but i would belive him
ive never heard of what tasq is saying, but i would belive him
| Aarron_M | 09-12-2006 04:58 PM |
It's different depending on the rim making method. Cast, forged? Etc. Just because you can powdercoat one wheel, doesn't mean you can powdercoat anything.
| Flipgod | 09-12-2006 05:27 PM |
I looked for a walkthrought on possibly doing this on my own with no avail.
Besides painting them (spraypainting) what do you do to put a clear coat over that?
Besides painting them (spraypainting) what do you do to put a clear coat over that?
| SilverSurfer04STi | 09-12-2006 10:59 PM |
You forgot one important piece of information. It depends [B][I][U]WHAT TEMPERATURE YOU BAKE AT[/U][/I][/B].... So if I stick my BBS wheels in my oven at home and bake them on 225 for 2 hours they are going to bend? C'mon... Take your own advice and don't spread partial or misinformation yourself.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=tasq;15215669]Check your facts :rolleyes: It is all about the molecular struture of the alloy. Please quit spreading information that is false.
Straight from BBS:
[I]The heat involved with stripping the finish and powder coating process will compromise the structural integrity of your wheel. If you change the color, paint it like you would paint your car. Thanks for asking first!!
Thanks again,
Michael Cox
BBS of America
[/I]
DO NOT BAKE YOUR BBS. PERIOD.
I know several people who have used the chem dip with no issue.[/QUOTE]
BBS has to take that stance in case they get some joe schmoe powder coat shop that bakes the wheels way, way too hot which will in fact weaken the structural integrity of some forged wheels. We're talking alot higher than it needs to be baked though. Powder coating is like alot of other automotive things.... If done properly, it doesn't harm the wheel and lasts a LONG time and looks good. If done wrong, it can weaken or even ruin the part. Think of it like modifying other aspects of your car or tuning your engine. If done it right it's a good thing. If done wrong...
Thanks.
[QUOTE=tasq;15215669]Check your facts :rolleyes: It is all about the molecular struture of the alloy. Please quit spreading information that is false.
Straight from BBS:
[I]The heat involved with stripping the finish and powder coating process will compromise the structural integrity of your wheel. If you change the color, paint it like you would paint your car. Thanks for asking first!!
Thanks again,
Michael Cox
BBS of America
[/I]
DO NOT BAKE YOUR BBS. PERIOD.
I know several people who have used the chem dip with no issue.[/QUOTE]
BBS has to take that stance in case they get some joe schmoe powder coat shop that bakes the wheels way, way too hot which will in fact weaken the structural integrity of some forged wheels. We're talking alot higher than it needs to be baked though. Powder coating is like alot of other automotive things.... If done properly, it doesn't harm the wheel and lasts a LONG time and looks good. If done wrong, it can weaken or even ruin the part. Think of it like modifying other aspects of your car or tuning your engine. If done it right it's a good thing. If done wrong...
| 06BlackSTIwith550WHP | 09-13-2006 09:10 AM |
When you guys say "dipped" you mean they are anodized not powdercoated
| scoogan | 09-13-2006 09:37 AM |
The lower the temp/longer the duration = the safer you'll be for powder coating
| tasq | 09-13-2006 11:43 AM |
[QUOTE=SilverSurfer04STi;15224794]You forgot one important piece of information. It depends [B][I][U]WHAT TEMPERATURE YOU BAKE AT[/U][/I][/B].... So if I stick my BBS wheels in my oven at home and bake them on 225 for 2 hours they are going to bend? C'mon... Take your own advice and don't spread partial or misinformation yourself.
[/QUOTE]
:lol: 225F isn't NEARLY enough to bake that stuff on... Give me a break toolbags. :rolleyes: You sure proved me wrong.
[/QUOTE]
:lol: 225F isn't NEARLY enough to bake that stuff on... Give me a break toolbags. :rolleyes: You sure proved me wrong.
| SilverSurfer04STi | 09-13-2006 12:49 PM |
So now we name call. Great. I guess I'll return the favor then...
It was an example toolbags - I see you missed the meaning.
You bake them from 300-350 and it bakes on. I wasn't trying to prove anything. I know for a fact your insinuation that baking the wheels at any temp is bad for the wheel as BBS states is wrong. You can think whatever you like.
Baking some forged wheels at a HIGH temp is bad for them - if done properly it doesn't hurt the wheel though (at a low temp in other words). Why do some wheel mfgs powder coat their wheels straight from the factory toolbags? I bet they plan on having them bend/explode on their customers cars, right? That makes perfect sense you moron
[url]http://www.pfonline.com/articles/99sum02.html[/url]
It was an example toolbags - I see you missed the meaning.
You bake them from 300-350 and it bakes on. I wasn't trying to prove anything. I know for a fact your insinuation that baking the wheels at any temp is bad for the wheel as BBS states is wrong. You can think whatever you like.
Baking some forged wheels at a HIGH temp is bad for them - if done properly it doesn't hurt the wheel though (at a low temp in other words). Why do some wheel mfgs powder coat their wheels straight from the factory toolbags? I bet they plan on having them bend/explode on their customers cars, right? That makes perfect sense you moron
[url]http://www.pfonline.com/articles/99sum02.html[/url]
| tasq | 09-13-2006 12:55 PM |
[QUOTE=SilverSurfer04STi;15230882]Why do some wheel mfgs powder coat their wheels straight from the factory toolbags? I bet they plan on having them bend/explode on their customers cars, right? That makes perfect sense you moron
[/QUOTE]
:lol: Because the alloy used is different, and acceptable for the baking process... I never once stated you shouldn't bake ANY wheel. I was speaking ONLY about the STi wheels. If you wan't to use that cheapo DYI oven bake crap, be my guest. I will see ya in a few months when it is flaking off :lol:
I have my stock wrx wheels coated using the bake process, and they are just fine. You act like I didn't know it was fine for some wheels? :huh:
I have personally seen a set of STi wheels that were baked. Guy took a corner hard and the whole wheel bent. I was simply trying to save others from the same mishap.
I hope your post made your weeNus feel bigger. You had no reason to correct anything in the first place :rolleyes:
[/QUOTE]
:lol: Because the alloy used is different, and acceptable for the baking process... I never once stated you shouldn't bake ANY wheel. I was speaking ONLY about the STi wheels. If you wan't to use that cheapo DYI oven bake crap, be my guest. I will see ya in a few months when it is flaking off :lol:
I have my stock wrx wheels coated using the bake process, and they are just fine. You act like I didn't know it was fine for some wheels? :huh:
I have personally seen a set of STi wheels that were baked. Guy took a corner hard and the whole wheel bent. I was simply trying to save others from the same mishap.
I hope your post made your weeNus feel bigger. You had no reason to correct anything in the first place :rolleyes:
| SilverSurfer04STi | 09-13-2006 01:05 PM |
I will be your guest. My STi wheels are powder coated with the "cheapo DYI oven bake crap"... No flaking, bending or exploding.
I guess your weeNus is bigger than mine because you powdercoated your WRX wheels and sent an email to BBS...
In the real world (the world I live in) my BBS wheels are powdercoated at ~350F and they are fine.
I guess your weeNus is bigger than mine because you powdercoated your WRX wheels and sent an email to BBS...
In the real world (the world I live in) my BBS wheels are powdercoated at ~350F and they are fine.
| SilverSurfer04STi | 09-13-2006 01:13 PM |
[QUOTE=tasq;15230979]
I have personally seen a set of STi wheels that were baked. Guy took a corner hard and the whole wheel bent. I was simply trying to save others from the same mishap.
I hope your post made your weeNus feel bigger. You had no reason to correct anything in the first place :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Actually, I did have reason to correct. You said not to bake the wheels whatsoever. If done properly it's fine (see earlier examples). You spread misinformation just as you told some former person in the thread not to do.
The guy that had a bent wheel, it could have happened in a rut or any blemish in the road/track. Also, they may have been baked at a high temp or prepped wrong. The wheel might have even bent anyway (not knowing the circumstances who the heck knows) if it wasn't powdercoated.
I'm done here. You have conquered me. Thou art the all-knowing weeNus wielder of knowledge.
I have personally seen a set of STi wheels that were baked. Guy took a corner hard and the whole wheel bent. I was simply trying to save others from the same mishap.
I hope your post made your weeNus feel bigger. You had no reason to correct anything in the first place :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Actually, I did have reason to correct. You said not to bake the wheels whatsoever. If done properly it's fine (see earlier examples). You spread misinformation just as you told some former person in the thread not to do.
The guy that had a bent wheel, it could have happened in a rut or any blemish in the road/track. Also, they may have been baked at a high temp or prepped wrong. The wheel might have even bent anyway (not knowing the circumstances who the heck knows) if it wasn't powdercoated.
I'm done here. You have conquered me. Thou art the all-knowing weeNus wielder of knowledge.
| tasq | 09-13-2006 01:15 PM |
[QUOTE=SilverSurfer04STi;15231246]Actually, I did have reason to correct. You said not to bake the wheels whatsoever. If done properly it's fine (see earlier examples). You spread misinformation just as you told some former person in the thread not to do.
The guy that had a bent wheel, it could have happened in a rut or any blemish in the road/track. Also, they may have been baked at a high temp or prepped wrong. The wheel might have even bent anyway (not knowing the circumstances who the heck knows) if it wasn't powdercoated.
I'm done here. You have conquered me. Thou art the all-knowing weeNus wielder of knowledge.[/QUOTE]
Again, I was only talking about the STI wheels as the OP stated. You went way out of your way to correct my point. Its all gravy, most people have enough common sense to understand what I was talking about... And yes, the wheel that was bent was flash baked at 1500F +
Give yourself a pat on the back captain hero.
The guy that had a bent wheel, it could have happened in a rut or any blemish in the road/track. Also, they may have been baked at a high temp or prepped wrong. The wheel might have even bent anyway (not knowing the circumstances who the heck knows) if it wasn't powdercoated.
I'm done here. You have conquered me. Thou art the all-knowing weeNus wielder of knowledge.[/QUOTE]
Again, I was only talking about the STI wheels as the OP stated. You went way out of your way to correct my point. Its all gravy, most people have enough common sense to understand what I was talking about... And yes, the wheel that was bent was flash baked at 1500F +
Give yourself a pat on the back captain hero.
| SilverSurfer04STi | 09-13-2006 01:47 PM |
LOL... I guess after all the insults we were really saying the same thing.
Peace out.
Peace out.
| tasq | 09-13-2006 01:48 PM |
[QUOTE=SilverSurfer04STi;15231776]LOL... I guess after all the insults we were really saying the same thing.
Peace out.[/QUOTE]
*hands you a beer* Figures. :lol:
Peace out.[/QUOTE]
*hands you a beer* Figures. :lol:
| CatfaceType-R | 09-13-2006 03:53 PM |
i had the same question a long time ago....all nasioc people were 50/50, about the wheels being weakened and breaking, so i didn't take that 50 percent that told me they would be fine. As they are forged they are heated to x temperature, when you powdercoat them you get to a temp level that is probably hot enough to weaken the strength imo
I just bought new wheels and sold my bbs's, flame suit on
I just bought new wheels and sold my bbs's, flame suit on
| Flipgod | 09-14-2006 12:51 PM |
[QUOTE=soon2bblackongold;15233914]i had the same question a long time ago....all nasioc people were 50/50, about the wheels being weakened and breaking, so i didn't take that 50 percent that told me they would be fine. As they are forged they are heated to x temperature, when you powdercoat them you get to a temp level that is probably hot enough to weaken the strength imo
I just bought new wheels and sold my bbs's, flame suit on[/QUOTE]
Yea I think Im going to end up just keeping my bbs's for a racing setup and buying some sweet wheels to ride around on.
Seems like trying to get them colored something else will be a bigger hassel than I want to deal with.
I just bought new wheels and sold my bbs's, flame suit on[/QUOTE]
Yea I think Im going to end up just keeping my bbs's for a racing setup and buying some sweet wheels to ride around on.
Seems like trying to get them colored something else will be a bigger hassel than I want to deal with.
| sheepdog | 09-15-2006 09:12 PM |
So, long story short, even a bake for 5 min at 400F will mess up the wheels?
| Mr. Sadface | 09-16-2006 11:12 AM |
AFAIK, the main concern of powder coating vs. the structural integrity of a wheel, comes down to the make-up of the wheel. I believe the problem wheels are aluminim alloy (like another poster said). Keep in mind, aluminim alloy wheels can still be coated. You simply run the risk of problems down the line. Some members of the board have had failures and some have not. I personally have done it, with no problems. But that's merely one person's luck.
| sheepdog | 09-16-2006 01:12 PM |
interesting. I think I'll be making the extra effort to find a place that uses the chem dip method, just in case.
| imprezal0ve | 07-26-2008 12:37 AM |
How do you color your wheels without baking them then... I did mine last night... did 3 layers of clear coat... should be okay?
| highwayman | 07-26-2008 12:14 PM |
With all the I know a guy who knows a guy who powdercoated his wheels & they exploded, bent, collapsed, etc, etc. I never hear from an actual person who powdercoated his wheels have a problem. I've had my trackday streetbike wheels powdercoated, STI wheels powdercoated & no problem personally. The guy who does my powdercoating has been in business for a loooong time, powdercoats wheels all the time (alot of forged aluminum ones too) & has never had a problem. A high end wheel & tire shop thats been in business a long time, R&R's wheels (alot of forged aluminum wheels too) for customers & sublets the powdercoating to the same guy & has never had a problem. Of course BBS will send a reply back like that its called CYA. They're going to recommend doing a job & put they're reputation on the line for a job done by someone else, nope.
Now if we start seeing posts from guys here w/actual stories of their wheels being damaged from the P.C. process, I'd change my opinion.
Now if we start seeing posts from guys here w/actual stories of their wheels being damaged from the P.C. process, I'd change my opinion.
| vecdran | 07-26-2008 12:25 PM |
I hear if you touch your wheels your body temperature will cause the metal to violently react and your wheels will instantly warp, compromising their structural integrity. My friend was told this by an industry professional.
:rolleyes:
:rolleyes:
| ccacher1 | 07-26-2008 02:02 PM |
powder coating wheels is fine ...how the **** do you think they got their gold or silver coloring in the first place?
| STINOMORMONEY | 07-26-2008 02:28 PM |
^^^^ good point although they could have been dipped tho
| highwayman | 07-26-2008 05:29 PM |
[QUOTE=vecdran;23117430]I hear if you touch your wheels your body temperature will cause the metal to violently react and your wheels will instantly warp, compromising their structural integrity. My friend was told this by an industry professional.
:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
:lol:, thats what some lead you to believe around here. The word from the pro that does my stuff is its a possibility during the stripping & etching process to damage the wheels if someone doesn't know what they're doing, not the P.C. process. My opinion is pay a pro a fair price, who has a good rep & been doing it awhile for the job.
Still looking for actual P.C. wheel owners w/probs, though.
:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
:lol:, thats what some lead you to believe around here. The word from the pro that does my stuff is its a possibility during the stripping & etching process to damage the wheels if someone doesn't know what they're doing, not the P.C. process. My opinion is pay a pro a fair price, who has a good rep & been doing it awhile for the job.
Still looking for actual P.C. wheel owners w/probs, though.
| southbayskates | 10-20-2008 03:02 PM |
how do you make them with a matte finish. i dont like the shiny look
| JON-E25WRX | 10-13-2009 07:54 PM |
where would you go to get them powder coated?
| LTBlackBird | 10-14-2009 02:29 PM |
I actually did a lo of research this the past couple of weeks. I looked into the type of material bbs uses as well as other wheel companies. I also looked into typical powdercoating processes and the tempratures used in most powdercoating places is too high to safely powderocat these wheels, just a fact. I believe it was around 600*'s to completely anneal the alloy that bbs uses, local powdercoating places keep metal at around 400*'s for about 4 hours, while it is true that the metal is not completely annealed (changing of the melecular compound, companies will do this to the metal on purpose when they are forming a shape) it is substantially fatigued. A lot of people get away with this because their wheels see little abuse, start going to a road course and they will break.
Just paint them, they might fair or chip down the road...just re do them, it's like $10 a can, that and if you ever want to change colors then it would be very very easily done with no detrimental affects to the metal. HRE's have been banned from several road courses due to them powdercoating their wheels and them breaking....don't do it! Haha
Just paint them, they might fair or chip down the road...just re do them, it's like $10 a can, that and if you ever want to change colors then it would be very very easily done with no detrimental affects to the metal. HRE's have been banned from several road courses due to them powdercoating their wheels and them breaking....don't do it! Haha
| Boostinbildo | 10-14-2009 04:11 PM |
I just had my winter BBS powdercoated using the low temp/long time method by a guy who has been powdercoating for many years and had many of his pieces of work published in auto magazines.
Ill be sure to post if my wheel ever bends or breaks. Dont hold your breath waiting...:rolleyes:
Ill be sure to post if my wheel ever bends or breaks. Dont hold your breath waiting...:rolleyes:
| whatishe | 10-14-2009 05:14 PM |
The for and against powder coating people got into it in my old wheel thread. The general outcome is if the person knows what they are doing, and doesn't overage the metal, powder coating can be safe. I wouldn't re-bake wheels though. [URL="http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1647277"]You can read about it here[/URL].
| ironhydroxide | 12-14-2011 05:58 PM |
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_treating"]Heat treating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recrystallization_(metallurgy[/url])
now all we need is the phase diagram of the specific alloy of said BBS's and we can be 100% sure of which temp and what duration.
Facts.... internetz have all and none.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recrystallization_(metallurgy[/url])
now all we need is the phase diagram of the specific alloy of said BBS's and we can be 100% sure of which temp and what duration.
Facts.... internetz have all and none.
| TXwrxWagon | 12-14-2011 07:06 PM |
talk about reviving the dead...
ok.. for the 40 BILLIONTH time:
The core temp for powder coating temp will be, ALWAYS be, between 250* and no more than 400* for XX time based on the # of parts in the batch and the type/style of oven used.
There is NO WAY a properly applied powder coat can ruin the metallic structure of the wheel. the forged wheel is pressed at 1,200 or so degrees and then cooled at a specified rate to get the mentioned annealing.
Damn interwebz spreading lies and myths.
Rob
ok.. for the 40 BILLIONTH time:
The core temp for powder coating temp will be, ALWAYS be, between 250* and no more than 400* for XX time based on the # of parts in the batch and the type/style of oven used.
There is NO WAY a properly applied powder coat can ruin the metallic structure of the wheel. the forged wheel is pressed at 1,200 or so degrees and then cooled at a specified rate to get the mentioned annealing.
Damn interwebz spreading lies and myths.
Rob
| TXwrxWagon | 12-14-2011 08:20 PM |
oh and in the wrong forum no less
Rob
Rob
| fastWRX1988 | 12-15-2011 11:12 AM |
I noticed that the best result is using a 1500 grit sand paper so the paint adhears much better......then get them powder coated. The electric charge holds the powder better.
| Cboy1 | 12-15-2011 11:17 AM |
[quote=fastWRX1988;35886535]I noticed that the best result is using a 1500 grit sand paper so the paint adhears much better......then get them powder coated. The electric charge holds the powder better.[/quote]
That's the old school way of prepping wheels. Lately a lot of people chemical dip the wheels to strip off all the paint.
That's the old school way of prepping wheels. Lately a lot of people chemical dip the wheels to strip off all the paint.
| TXwrxWagon | 12-15-2011 09:18 PM |
150 grit is like rubbing the wheel with a paper towel... LOL...
for PAINTING: as long as the surface of any wheel is free of defects, scuff with either 600 grit or a Red Scotch Brite pad the entire surface. then prime, paint, clear.
For POWDER: the wheel needs to be (aka MUST BE) raw aluminum. Nothing on the wheel at all. So chemical, LOW heat, or bead blast stripping are the common ways to get to raw aluminum.
Powder is king for durability. Also, don't forget, that many factory wheels are a COMBINATION of <liquid> paint for COLOR and then <dry> powder for the protective CLEAR... the magic is in the FINAL coating...
So yes Virginia, you can combine paint <liquid> and powder <dry> all day long, every day... Want those red-wrinkle STi manifolds to last longer than the car? Wrinkle them in paint, then CLEAR them in 60-70% gloss powder... then again... wrinkle is available now in all powder as well.. <grin>
But what do I know... oh! that's right I know a GREAT powder coater who doesn't believe the BS Myths... LOL
Rob
for PAINTING: as long as the surface of any wheel is free of defects, scuff with either 600 grit or a Red Scotch Brite pad the entire surface. then prime, paint, clear.
For POWDER: the wheel needs to be (aka MUST BE) raw aluminum. Nothing on the wheel at all. So chemical, LOW heat, or bead blast stripping are the common ways to get to raw aluminum.
Powder is king for durability. Also, don't forget, that many factory wheels are a COMBINATION of <liquid> paint for COLOR and then <dry> powder for the protective CLEAR... the magic is in the FINAL coating...
So yes Virginia, you can combine paint <liquid> and powder <dry> all day long, every day... Want those red-wrinkle STi manifolds to last longer than the car? Wrinkle them in paint, then CLEAR them in 60-70% gloss powder... then again... wrinkle is available now in all powder as well.. <grin>
But what do I know... oh! that's right I know a GREAT powder coater who doesn't believe the BS Myths... LOL
Rob
| guess211 | 12-15-2011 09:48 PM |
[quote=Cboy1;35886584]That's the old school way of prepping wheels. Lately a lot of people chemical dip the wheels to strip off all the paint.[/quote]
Yup, that's old fashioned way for sure.
Yup, that's old fashioned way for sure.
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