| trhoppe | 04-19-2004 02:04 PM |
So I broke down and bought a set of MXs
�
�
After driving a 45 second course on a 80 degree day with the Azenis and coming off course with 120 degree tire temps, I realized "self, these aren't going to work for a codriven car and Pro Solos".
Got a set of MXs on the way. Thankfully we have the ability to do some great concrete testing this weekend and we should have a be all, end all MX vs. Azenis test this weekend. I wonder what we'll find time wise between the two.
-Tom
Got a set of MXs on the way. Thankfully we have the ability to do some great concrete testing this weekend and we should have a be all, end all MX vs. Azenis test this weekend. I wonder what we'll find time wise between the two.
-Tom
| Watkinsm3 | 04-19-2004 02:35 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by trhoppe[/i]
[B] Thankfully we have the ability to do some great concrete testing this weekend and we should have a be all, end all MX vs. Azenis test this weekend. I wonder what we'll find time wise between the two.
[/B][/QUOTE]
Despite my race tire dedication ( though STU does sound fun :devil: ) I'm curious to hear your results...
EDIT : ...and now I have all week to think about it. Thanks!
[B] Thankfully we have the ability to do some great concrete testing this weekend and we should have a be all, end all MX vs. Azenis test this weekend. I wonder what we'll find time wise between the two.
[/B][/QUOTE]
Despite my race tire dedication ( though STU does sound fun :devil: ) I'm curious to hear your results...
EDIT : ...and now I have all week to think about it. Thanks!
| AUTOwrXER | 04-19-2004 02:43 PM |
Planning on shaving the Kuhmos? Azenis win hands down at full-tread. It's from 4/32nds on that the Kuhmos get good.
| trhoppe | 04-19-2004 03:39 PM |
[quote]I'm curious to hear your results...[/quote]
Maybe I should pull a mike king and keep my testing secret ;) :devil: :lol:
[quote]Planning on shaving the Kuhmos? Azenis win hands down at full-tread. It's from 4/32nds on that the Kuhmos get good. [/quote]
We're going to try the "shaving naturally" method. These won't be the set we would use for nationals, and we're going to make a TON of runs on these this weekend, so I think we can wear them down to 4/32s no problem. I spoke to a couple of kumho techs and they told me they thought the azenis was a better tire then the kumho. Kinda funny there. They also mentioned that there should not be any hardening up or heat cycling issues in one weekend. If you wore them down over a long period of time, they think the tire could harden up a tad, but wearing them down over 1 day should't put enough heat cycles on them to do anything.
-Tom
Maybe I should pull a mike king and keep my testing secret ;) :devil: :lol:
[quote]Planning on shaving the Kuhmos? Azenis win hands down at full-tread. It's from 4/32nds on that the Kuhmos get good. [/quote]
We're going to try the "shaving naturally" method. These won't be the set we would use for nationals, and we're going to make a TON of runs on these this weekend, so I think we can wear them down to 4/32s no problem. I spoke to a couple of kumho techs and they told me they thought the azenis was a better tire then the kumho. Kinda funny there. They also mentioned that there should not be any hardening up or heat cycling issues in one weekend. If you wore them down over a long period of time, they think the tire could harden up a tad, but wearing them down over 1 day should't put enough heat cycles on them to do anything.
-Tom
| Watkinsm3 | 04-19-2004 04:04 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by trhoppe[/i]
[B] Maybe I should pull a mike king and keep my testing secret ;) :devil: :lol:
[/B][/QUOTE]
...and what's the fun in that? :D
Not like you street tired kids even have to worry about little old me. The only way I can get to STX is detune the integra I have sitting in the garage from SP trim (granted that is the same route I'll have to take with the car to make it legal for the Honda-Challenge). Certainly not MY idea of fun... especially when I have bigger fish to fry in A-Stock. :eek:
I see how its gonna be...
I can play that way too...
ITS ON NOW! :disco:
I've been on this board for about 4 months now and I still have no idea what the disco monkey means!!!! :lol:
[B] Maybe I should pull a mike king and keep my testing secret ;) :devil: :lol:
[/B][/QUOTE]
...and what's the fun in that? :D
Not like you street tired kids even have to worry about little old me. The only way I can get to STX is detune the integra I have sitting in the garage from SP trim (granted that is the same route I'll have to take with the car to make it legal for the Honda-Challenge). Certainly not MY idea of fun... especially when I have bigger fish to fry in A-Stock. :eek:
I see how its gonna be...
I can play that way too...
ITS ON NOW! :disco:
I've been on this board for about 4 months now and I still have no idea what the disco monkey means!!!! :lol:
| Duffman1 | 04-19-2004 04:43 PM |
Getting a re-run directly after getting red flagged is also not very much fun on the azenis! Greazzzzzy...
| jmott | 04-19-2004 04:45 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Duffman1 [/i]
[B]Getting a re-run directly after getting red flagged is also not very much fun on the azenis! Greazzzzzy... [/B][/QUOTE]
you get 5 minutes to cool down.
bring ice water
[B]Getting a re-run directly after getting red flagged is also not very much fun on the azenis! Greazzzzzy... [/B][/QUOTE]
you get 5 minutes to cool down.
bring ice water
| ChrisW | 04-20-2004 12:11 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by AUTOwrXER[/i]
[B] Planning on shaving the Kuhmos? Azenis win hands down at full-tread. It's from 4/32nds on that the Kuhmos get good. [/B][/QUOTE]
fortunetly, under autocross situations the 4/32 rules comes into play only after a few short runs. The longer you run the tire, the more even the tread depth will be.
the lingering question is will the outside fold-away sidewall hold up until the inside edge has the optimum 4/32 tread depth
:lol:
[B] Planning on shaving the Kuhmos? Azenis win hands down at full-tread. It's from 4/32nds on that the Kuhmos get good. [/B][/QUOTE]
fortunetly, under autocross situations the 4/32 rules comes into play only after a few short runs. The longer you run the tire, the more even the tread depth will be.
the lingering question is will the outside fold-away sidewall hold up until the inside edge has the optimum 4/32 tread depth
:lol:
| trhoppe | 04-20-2004 09:16 AM |
So now, even though I ordered them, I'm considering cancelling it :lol:
I still got joel's advice of "they are worthless full tread" and am thinking that I might hate them so much while trying to shave them, that I will give up on them.
I think I might perform some azenis heat testing this weekend instead...........
-Tom
Undecided
I still got joel's advice of "they are worthless full tread" and am thinking that I might hate them so much while trying to shave them, that I will give up on them.
I think I might perform some azenis heat testing this weekend instead...........
-Tom
Undecided
| itsawagon | 04-20-2004 09:31 AM |
i've only run three autoxs on my MXs, plus a couple hundred street miles, and they're not as grippy as i hoped they would be, i'm hoping they'll come to me though.
| DrBiggly | 04-20-2004 10:24 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by trhoppe[/i]
[B] So now, even though I ordered them, I'm considering cancelling it :lol:
I still got joel's advice of "they are worthless full tread" and am thinking that I might hate them so much while trying to shave them, that I will give up on them.
I think I might perform some azenis heat testing this weekend instead...........
-Tom
Undecided [/B][/QUOTE]
So you're saying that you thought you were indecisive, but now you're not so sure about that? :lol:
[B] So now, even though I ordered them, I'm considering cancelling it :lol:
I still got joel's advice of "they are worthless full tread" and am thinking that I might hate them so much while trying to shave them, that I will give up on them.
I think I might perform some azenis heat testing this weekend instead...........
-Tom
Undecided [/B][/QUOTE]
So you're saying that you thought you were indecisive, but now you're not so sure about that? :lol:
| Orion | 04-20-2004 10:31 AM |
i couldn't get mine hot enough over the weekend even codriving both days, but realize it's not been into the 70's here at all until our Test N Tune on Sat.
Todd killed us on Sunday, but we're still happy to have been somewhat close for awhile. Having no idea where we were with a new suspension and new tires we felt it wasn't too bad. Todd had sticker Azenis he was breaking in so we were kinda in the same boat there, but i don't know that he's changed much since last season with the rest of the car. mine's a totally new car it seems. between coilovers and a little weight redistribution it was nothing like last year.
For the record it was low 70's, sunny and not so sticky asphalt. We were .4 and .7 back from Todd on Sat, and got whipped on Sun. My codriver was ~1 sec back and I coned all 4 runs.
The course was a little more in the Type R's favor, but had it not been for a final hairpin, turbo killing corner we should have been within a couple tenths on Sunday.
We've got 2 events in back to back weekends coming up so we'll see what a completely different setup (proper rear spring lengths) and a new potentially competitive tire have in store for us. We'll be running the new tire on the 2nd and back to the MX's on the 9th.
Todd killed us on Sunday, but we're still happy to have been somewhat close for awhile. Having no idea where we were with a new suspension and new tires we felt it wasn't too bad. Todd had sticker Azenis he was breaking in so we were kinda in the same boat there, but i don't know that he's changed much since last season with the rest of the car. mine's a totally new car it seems. between coilovers and a little weight redistribution it was nothing like last year.
For the record it was low 70's, sunny and not so sticky asphalt. We were .4 and .7 back from Todd on Sat, and got whipped on Sun. My codriver was ~1 sec back and I coned all 4 runs.
The course was a little more in the Type R's favor, but had it not been for a final hairpin, turbo killing corner we should have been within a couple tenths on Sunday.
We've got 2 events in back to back weekends coming up so we'll see what a completely different setup (proper rear spring lengths) and a new potentially competitive tire have in store for us. We'll be running the new tire on the 2nd and back to the MX's on the 9th.
| stxwrxracer | 04-20-2004 11:08 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by trhoppe[/i]
[B] Maybe I should pull a mike king and keep my testing secret ;) :devil: :lol:
-Tom [/B][/QUOTE]
Hey, maybe you should bring out those FK-451s at the same time then, Mr. Secretive...:devil: :D
-Mike
[B] Maybe I should pull a mike king and keep my testing secret ;) :devil: :lol:
-Tom [/B][/QUOTE]
Hey, maybe you should bring out those FK-451s at the same time then, Mr. Secretive...:devil: :D
-Mike
| trhoppe | 04-20-2004 11:26 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by stxwrxracer[/i]
[B] Hey, maybe you should bring out those FK-451s at the same time then, Mr. Secretive...:devil: :D
-Mike [/B][/QUOTE]
There was testing performed....... ;)
Although I didn't get to do it :furious:
From what I hear lately, its going to be about a WHOLE different brand this year :huh:
Answer my PM beoooootch :lol:
-Tom
[B] Hey, maybe you should bring out those FK-451s at the same time then, Mr. Secretive...:devil: :D
-Mike [/B][/QUOTE]
There was testing performed....... ;)
Although I didn't get to do it :furious:
From what I hear lately, its going to be about a WHOLE different brand this year :huh:
Answer my PM beoooootch :lol:
-Tom
| buster | 04-20-2004 12:40 PM |
How are you liking the 451's??
| ChrisDP | 04-20-2004 01:55 PM |
LOL. Certainly is hard to read SIGNALS around here amongst all this NOISE. :D
But I take it you guys have heard the same things about the Fuzions that I have...
But I take it you guys have heard the same things about the Fuzions that I have...
| Orion | 04-20-2004 03:08 PM |
ShhhH!!!!!:eek:
:lol:
:lol:
| MNbiker | 04-21-2004 07:43 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ChrisDP [/i]
[B]LOL. Certainly is hard to read SIGNALS around here amongst all this NOISE. :D
But I take it you guys have heard the same things about the Fuzions that I have... [/B][/QUOTE]
Actually, I heard from a guy (who heard from a guy) that [URL=http://www.goodyeartires.com/goodyeartireselector/display_tire.jsp?prodline=Regatta+2&mrktarea=Passenger]Goodyear Regatta's[/URL] are THE sleeper tire for Nationals!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
-Steve
[B]LOL. Certainly is hard to read SIGNALS around here amongst all this NOISE. :D
But I take it you guys have heard the same things about the Fuzions that I have... [/B][/QUOTE]
Actually, I heard from a guy (who heard from a guy) that [URL=http://www.goodyeartires.com/goodyeartireselector/display_tire.jsp?prodline=Regatta+2&mrktarea=Passenger]Goodyear Regatta's[/URL] are THE sleeper tire for Nationals!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
-Steve
| KC | 04-21-2004 07:52 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by MNbiker[/i]
[B] Actually, I heard from a guy (who heard from a guy) that [URL=http://www.goodyeartires.com/goodyeartireselector/display_tire.jsp?prodline=Regatta+2&mrktarea=Passenger]Goodyear Regatta's[/URL] are THE sleeper tire for Nationals!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
-Steve [/B][/QUOTE]
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night said [URL=http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Firestone&tireModel=FR480]these tires[/URL] we going to be the sleeper tire at Nats!
[B] Actually, I heard from a guy (who heard from a guy) that [URL=http://www.goodyeartires.com/goodyeartireselector/display_tire.jsp?prodline=Regatta+2&mrktarea=Passenger]Goodyear Regatta's[/URL] are THE sleeper tire for Nationals!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
-Steve [/B][/QUOTE]
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night said [URL=http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Firestone&tireModel=FR480]these tires[/URL] we going to be the sleeper tire at Nats!
| TimStevens | 04-21-2004 08:02 AM |
Damn, I just got a set of [url=http://www.airfreetires.com/Bicycle/Legacy/26x20.html]these[/url] in perparation for my first trip to Nat's in my MR2, after someone told me they were hot stuff. I guess I'll hold off until next year when I can afford the Firestones :(
| wrx2.0 555 | 04-21-2004 11:16 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by TimStevens [/i]
[B]Damn, I just got a set of [url=http://www.airfreetires.com/Bicycle/Legacy/26x20.html]these[/url] in perparation for my first trip to Nat's in my MR2, after someone told me they were hot stuff. I guess I'll hold off until next year when I can afford the Firestones :( [/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Garden Tire[/QUOTE]
:huh: What the hell is a Garden Tire? :lol: :D :alien:
[B]Damn, I just got a set of [url=http://www.airfreetires.com/Bicycle/Legacy/26x20.html]these[/url] in perparation for my first trip to Nat's in my MR2, after someone told me they were hot stuff. I guess I'll hold off until next year when I can afford the Firestones :( [/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Garden Tire[/QUOTE]
:huh: What the hell is a Garden Tire? :lol: :D :alien:
| trhoppe | 04-21-2004 12:12 PM |
Anyone notice Mr. King signed up on 245/35/17s for the atlanta sediv?? :lol:
-Tom
-Tom
| ChrisDP | 04-21-2004 01:47 PM |
Perhaps he's trying to have a Good Year in STX. Anyways, I should give my roommate a Han Kook-ing lunch. :p
| KC | 04-21-2004 01:50 PM |
That's falken crazy talk!
--kC
--kC
| trhoppe | 04-21-2004 01:51 PM |
:lol: :lol: :huh:
-Tom
-Tom
| MNbiker | 04-21-2004 02:08 PM |
FWIW - I was talking with Andy Hollis in Topeka a couple weeks ago, and he believes it's likely the SEB will ban the Hankook Z212's from Nationals, assuming Hankook actually releases them in time. The concern is that Hankook won't have a ready supply available, or will only have limited sizes that could create an unfair advantage.
Just my $.02
-Steve
Just my $.02
-Steve
| KC | 04-21-2004 02:23 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by MNbiker[/i]
[B] FWIW - I was talking with Andy Hollis in Topeka a couple weeks ago, and he believes it's likely the SEB will ban the Hankook Z212's from Nationals, assuming Hankook actually releases them in time. The concern is that Hankook won't have a ready supply available, or will only have limited sizes that could create an unfair advantage.
Just my $.02
-Steve [/B][/QUOTE]
If they have the same amt of sizes as the Azenis... they should be legal.
Also, if you talk to him again soon, and it's a case of tire availablity, that one 140 pirelli corsa should be excluded since it has only one size in 140 and the rest 60.
--kC
[B] FWIW - I was talking with Andy Hollis in Topeka a couple weeks ago, and he believes it's likely the SEB will ban the Hankook Z212's from Nationals, assuming Hankook actually releases them in time. The concern is that Hankook won't have a ready supply available, or will only have limited sizes that could create an unfair advantage.
Just my $.02
-Steve [/B][/QUOTE]
If they have the same amt of sizes as the Azenis... they should be legal.
Also, if you talk to him again soon, and it's a case of tire availablity, that one 140 pirelli corsa should be excluded since it has only one size in 140 and the rest 60.
--kC
| trhoppe | 04-21-2004 02:38 PM |
I could see how the concern would be with "readily available" rather then "sizes available" on the Hancooks. They are for ST, and will have a variety of 15 and 16" tires available. 99% of ST* cars can use 15 or 16" wheels.
As far as the Pirellis, I agree with KC, only 1 size available, BANNINATE!
-Tom
As far as the Pirellis, I agree with KC, only 1 size available, BANNINATE!
-Tom
| MNbiker | 04-21-2004 02:40 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by KC [/i]
[B]Also, if you talk to him again soon, and it's a case of tire availablity, that one 140 pirelli corsa should be excluded since it has only one size in 140 and the rest 60. [/B][/QUOTE]
No kidding, why did Pirelli do that?:huh:
-Steve
p.s. In talking with Andy, I believe there are two concerns:
1. Extremely limited size availability (like 1 or 2 sizes that only work on a limited number of cars).
2. Extremely limited supply, so that only "favored/sponsored" drivers can get them. I believe this is the bigger concern - and I believe the SCCA has acted to exclude tires on these grounds in the past.
[B]Also, if you talk to him again soon, and it's a case of tire availablity, that one 140 pirelli corsa should be excluded since it has only one size in 140 and the rest 60. [/B][/QUOTE]
No kidding, why did Pirelli do that?:huh:
-Steve
p.s. In talking with Andy, I believe there are two concerns:
1. Extremely limited size availability (like 1 or 2 sizes that only work on a limited number of cars).
2. Extremely limited supply, so that only "favored/sponsored" drivers can get them. I believe this is the bigger concern - and I believe the SCCA has acted to exclude tires on these grounds in the past.
| KC | 04-21-2004 02:52 PM |
Yeah, I would say that availability would be an issue and why the DOT-Rs have the April Deadline.
--kC
--kC
| 10th Warrior | 04-21-2004 03:15 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by KC [/i]
[B]Yeah, I would say that availability would be an issue and why the DOT-Rs have the April Deadline.
--kC [/B][/QUOTE]
come on Avon :D
sorry, all this street tire talk was making my ears burn from the squealling...
[B]Yeah, I would say that availability would be an issue and why the DOT-Rs have the April Deadline.
--kC [/B][/QUOTE]
come on Avon :D
sorry, all this street tire talk was making my ears burn from the squealling...
| trhoppe | 04-26-2004 10:06 AM |
So to rehash a little.
We punted on the MXs and stuck to "heat testing" the azenis.
I did 6 30 second runs hotlapped (no breaks at all) on the azenis on a 75 degree day. Got them up to 152 outside, 156 inside. I lost about 2 tenths on that last run and I felt like I overdrove the car rather then the tires giving out :confused: :confused: Car felt pretty good the whole time and maybe the tires got a "tad" greasy on feel, but I didn't think the time went down any......
I agree with what a very good driver told me about the tires this weekend. When they get hot the *feel* goes away a bit and the tire gets MUCH less forgiving. If you overdrive into a turn, they will not save you like a cold azenis. If you continue to drive smooth though, the ultimate grip level is pretty much the same
-Tom
We punted on the MXs and stuck to "heat testing" the azenis.
I did 6 30 second runs hotlapped (no breaks at all) on the azenis on a 75 degree day. Got them up to 152 outside, 156 inside. I lost about 2 tenths on that last run and I felt like I overdrove the car rather then the tires giving out :confused: :confused: Car felt pretty good the whole time and maybe the tires got a "tad" greasy on feel, but I didn't think the time went down any......
I agree with what a very good driver told me about the tires this weekend. When they get hot the *feel* goes away a bit and the tire gets MUCH less forgiving. If you overdrive into a turn, they will not save you like a cold azenis. If you continue to drive smooth though, the ultimate grip level is pretty much the same
-Tom
| stxwrxracer | 04-26-2004 10:26 AM |
So, what was faster? Azenis or MX? Come on....share the results, Mister.
-MK
-MK
| KC | 04-26-2004 10:30 AM |
[QUOTE]We punted on the MXs [/QUOTE]
Punted... gave up?
Punted... gave up?
| DrBiggly | 04-26-2004 10:33 AM |
Punted them to the curb...dang Tom, must be nice to just buy tires and then go "Eh, I don't think I'll use them" :p
| Fred | 04-26-2004 10:45 AM |
Actually, he ended up cancelling the order.
And to Tom:
I told you so!!! :p
And to Tom:
I told you so!!! :p
| DrBiggly | 04-26-2004 11:03 AM |
Tom I think you are quite possibly the only person more indecisive than me. :lol:
| KC | 04-26-2004 11:05 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by DrBiggly[/i]
[B] Tom I think you are quite possibly the only person more indecisive than me. :lol: [/B][/QUOTE]
I do not know ANYONE more indecisive than Tom!!!!11!!one!!
[B] Tom I think you are quite possibly the only person more indecisive than me. :lol: [/B][/QUOTE]
I do not know ANYONE more indecisive than Tom!!!!11!!one!!
| DrBiggly | 04-26-2004 11:09 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by KC[/i]
[B] I do not know ANYONE more indecisive than Tom!!!!11!!one!! [/B][/QUOTE]
Shouldn't that be TOM!!!!111!!!two ?
[B] I do not know ANYONE more indecisive than Tom!!!!11!!one!! [/B][/QUOTE]
Shouldn't that be TOM!!!!111!!!two ?
| trhoppe | 04-26-2004 12:03 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by stxwrxracer[/i]
[B] So, what was faster? Azenis or MX? Come on....share the results, Mister.
-MK [/B][/QUOTE]
I'm not telling!!!! :lol: :banana:
"Oh I'll call you back" riiight ;)
[quote]Actually, he ended up cancelling the order.[/quote]
Exactly. And now after seeing that the azenis do work pretty well "warm", I did the right thing. I think it will be VERY VERY hard to get the tires over 150 degrees as you get at least 30-60 seconds between your prosolo runs.
[quote]I do not know ANYONE more indecisive than Tom!!!!11!!one!![/quote]
I don't know, thats a tough call, might have to think about that one......you sure? really sure? Let me check again just to make sure.....okay yea that fine......no...wait!!!
-Tom
[B] So, what was faster? Azenis or MX? Come on....share the results, Mister.
-MK [/B][/QUOTE]
I'm not telling!!!! :lol: :banana:
"Oh I'll call you back" riiight ;)
[quote]Actually, he ended up cancelling the order.[/quote]
Exactly. And now after seeing that the azenis do work pretty well "warm", I did the right thing. I think it will be VERY VERY hard to get the tires over 150 degrees as you get at least 30-60 seconds between your prosolo runs.
[quote]I do not know ANYONE more indecisive than Tom!!!!11!!one!![/quote]
I don't know, thats a tough call, might have to think about that one......you sure? really sure? Let me check again just to make sure.....okay yea that fine......no...wait!!!
-Tom
| Subdued | 04-26-2004 12:13 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by itsawagon [/i]
[B]i've only run three autoxs on my MXs, plus a couple hundred street miles, and they're not as grippy as i hoped they would be, i'm hoping they'll come to me though. [/B][/QUOTE]
Until you get 300-400 miles on full tread depth MX's you won't experience their full potential.
[B]i've only run three autoxs on my MXs, plus a couple hundred street miles, and they're not as grippy as i hoped they would be, i'm hoping they'll come to me though. [/B][/QUOTE]
Until you get 300-400 miles on full tread depth MX's you won't experience their full potential.
| Corey | 04-27-2004 07:45 AM |
It's really hard to get 300-400 miles out of a set of tires...:rolleyes:
We normally get less than 100 miles out of them actually:lol:
Corey #89 STS
We normally get less than 100 miles out of them actually:lol:
Corey #89 STS
| trhoppe | 04-27-2004 07:05 PM |
Tittywop....
I'll be taking some tonight....for real this time ;)
I purchased TOCA Race Driver 2 last night and forgot all about pictures/work/laundry/food/anything else for about 5 hours......
-Tom
I'll be taking some tonight....for real this time ;)
I purchased TOCA Race Driver 2 last night and forgot all about pictures/work/laundry/food/anything else for about 5 hours......
-Tom
| DrBiggly | 04-27-2004 09:46 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by trhoppe[/i]
[B] Tittywop....
I'll be taking some tonight....for real this time ;)
I purchased TOCA Race Driver 2 last night and forgot all about pictures/work/laundry/food/anything else for about 5 hours......
-Tom [/B][/QUOTE]
Is that for PS2?
[B] Tittywop....
I'll be taking some tonight....for real this time ;)
I purchased TOCA Race Driver 2 last night and forgot all about pictures/work/laundry/food/anything else for about 5 hours......
-Tom [/B][/QUOTE]
Is that for PS2?
| trhoppe | 04-27-2004 09:54 PM |
Xbox baby!!
| elgorey | 04-28-2004 05:23 PM |
better than Race Driver 1 I hope....
| Subdued | 05-13-2004 09:41 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Corey [/i]
[B]It's really hard to get 300-400 miles out of a set of tires...:rolleyes:
We normally get less than 100 miles out of them actually:lol:
Corey #89 STS [/B][/QUOTE]
I hope you are shaving them then. Hard charging on full tread depth MX's is not optimal, but not bad.:)
[B]It's really hard to get 300-400 miles out of a set of tires...:rolleyes:
We normally get less than 100 miles out of them actually:lol:
Corey #89 STS [/B][/QUOTE]
I hope you are shaving them then. Hard charging on full tread depth MX's is not optimal, but not bad.:)
Không có nhận xét nào:
Đăng nhận xét