| Scooby South | 06-21-2004 11:33 PM |
TURKEY...discuss it here...
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Go Petter....another chance for the Subaru to shine in the gravel....
Bill
Bill
| bemani | 06-21-2004 11:44 PM |
Does Sabestian Loeb have to be the road sweeper again? Is this how it goes, because he's championship leader?
| bigcale | 06-22-2004 01:56 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by bemani [/i]
[B]Does Sabestian Loeb have to be the road sweeper again? Is this how it goes, because he's championship leader? [/B][/QUOTE]
yes the first day they run in points order
[B]Does Sabestian Loeb have to be the road sweeper again? Is this how it goes, because he's championship leader? [/B][/QUOTE]
yes the first day they run in points order
| WRCar | 06-22-2004 06:19 PM |
Second on the road... hmmm hopefully Petter won't have any rocks reconfigure his cooling system again....
Also, can we please see Marcus' car crap out... I think he is just about ready to lose it on Peugeot.
Go the Subaru!
W00t! W00t!
:banana:
Also, can we please see Marcus' car crap out... I think he is just about ready to lose it on Peugeot.
Go the Subaru!
W00t! W00t!
:banana:
| Jfrankon | 06-23-2004 09:54 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WRCar [/i]
[B]
Also, can we please see Marcus' car crap out... I think he is just about ready to lose it on Peugeot.
Go the Subaru!
W00t! W00t!
:banana: [/B][/QUOTE]
Exactly! I would love to see Marcus go ballistic again!
Go Petter!:p
[B]
Also, can we please see Marcus' car crap out... I think he is just about ready to lose it on Peugeot.
Go the Subaru!
W00t! W00t!
:banana: [/B][/QUOTE]
Exactly! I would love to see Marcus go ballistic again!
Go Petter!:p
| Herbie | 06-23-2004 12:56 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WRCar [/i]
[B]
Also, can we please see Marcus' car crap out... I think he is just about ready to lose it on Peugeot.
[/B][/QUOTE]
Don't get me wrong, I'm rooting for Petter, but am I the only one that thinks that Marcus would have stood a decent chance at the championship this year if Peugeot had just left well enough alone with the 206?
After watching that Privateer 206 "keep up" fairly well at the last race, I'm not convinced that Peugeot NEEDED the new car...
[B]
Also, can we please see Marcus' car crap out... I think he is just about ready to lose it on Peugeot.
[/B][/QUOTE]
Don't get me wrong, I'm rooting for Petter, but am I the only one that thinks that Marcus would have stood a decent chance at the championship this year if Peugeot had just left well enough alone with the 206?
After watching that Privateer 206 "keep up" fairly well at the last race, I'm not convinced that Peugeot NEEDED the new car...
| WRCar | 06-23-2004 03:44 PM |
I think that the switch from the 206 to the 307 was more of a company descision than a racing one. Although there are some distinct advantages to rallying the 307 over the 206.
[URL=http://www.wrc.com/News.aspx?PO_ID=1597&flash=True&lang=en_GB]See here (link)[/URL]
It is still quite early in the development of the 307, compared with the Xsara and the WRX, so I think we will see it become more competitive as the year rolls along.
Even with the old car I think Marcus would still be having trouble beating the young guys (Seb, Petter, and Markko)
[URL=http://www.wrc.com/News.aspx?PO_ID=1597&flash=True&lang=en_GB]See here (link)[/URL]
It is still quite early in the development of the 307, compared with the Xsara and the WRX, so I think we will see it become more competitive as the year rolls along.
Even with the old car I think Marcus would still be having trouble beating the young guys (Seb, Petter, and Markko)
| bigcale | 06-23-2004 06:19 PM |
Citreon is going to the C4 next year, that car is based on a the same platform as the 307 so maybe they will suck next year.
| 2cam16 | 06-24-2004 12:04 AM |
Gravel/Dirt=Petter's race :D
| Mark Avery | 06-24-2004 08:05 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Herbie [/i]
[B]am I the only one that thinks that Marcus would have stood a decent chance at the championship this year if Peugeot had just left well enough alone with the 206?[/B][/QUOTE]
Marcus and the 206 didn't dominate last year. ;)
[B]am I the only one that thinks that Marcus would have stood a decent chance at the championship this year if Peugeot had just left well enough alone with the 206?[/B][/QUOTE]
Marcus and the 206 didn't dominate last year. ;)
| WRCar | 06-24-2004 08:56 PM |
SS1
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Duval in 3rd... Mikko 5th... Petter 7th???
What is this, opposite day?
:huh:
What is this, opposite day?
:huh:
| Scooby South | 06-24-2004 11:43 PM |
A good start for the Focus
Turkey : SS 1 - Super Special [24/06/04 - 18:42]Markko Martin wins the first stage. The Rally of Turkey started this evening with the first run of the Efes Pilsen Super Special Stage. The drivers competed side by side on the 2.5 km track built at the Akdeniz University.
Looks like a FAN stage....Petter is only 1.4 sec back...not a biggie...
Bill
Turkey : SS 1 - Super Special [24/06/04 - 18:42]Markko Martin wins the first stage. The Rally of Turkey started this evening with the first run of the Efes Pilsen Super Special Stage. The drivers competed side by side on the 2.5 km track built at the Akdeniz University.
Looks like a FAN stage....Petter is only 1.4 sec back...not a biggie...
Bill
| bigcale | 06-25-2004 01:49 AM |
I love Petters new hair:cool:
| Herbie | 06-25-2004 01:10 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Mark Avery[/i]
[B] Marcus and the 206 didn't dominate last year. ;) [/B][/QUOTE]
What I'm saying is that I'm thinking that stupid reliability issues are preventing Marcus from making a fight of it.
Not domination, to be sure. I'm not looking for domination. Ideally I'd like a close fight between the Impreza and the 206 up to the last race, whereupon Petter beats Marcus in the final stage...
Its harder to get excited about a fight with the Xsara, since Loeb is just so prickley and "French". I'm constantly rooting for him to blow up...
[B] Marcus and the 206 didn't dominate last year. ;) [/B][/QUOTE]
What I'm saying is that I'm thinking that stupid reliability issues are preventing Marcus from making a fight of it.
Not domination, to be sure. I'm not looking for domination. Ideally I'd like a close fight between the Impreza and the 206 up to the last race, whereupon Petter beats Marcus in the final stage...
Its harder to get excited about a fight with the Xsara, since Loeb is just so prickley and "French". I'm constantly rooting for him to blow up...
| Scooby South | 06-25-2004 01:22 PM |
1. 3 LOEB-ELENA CITROEN XSA A8 1h57'13"800 77.7 km/h 1 1
2. 5 GRONHOLM-RAUTIA PEUGEOT 307 A8 1h57'21"300 + 00'07"50 2 2
3. 1 SOLBERG-MILLS SUBARU IMPR A8 1h58'11"000 + 00'57"20 3 3
4. 4 SAINZ-MARTI CITROEN XSA A8 1h58'17"100 + 01'03"30 4 4
5. 8 DUVAL-PREVOT FORD FOCUS A8 1h58'24"000 + 01'10"20 5 5
6. 6 ROVANPERA-PIETI PEUGEOT 307 A8 1h58'54"000 + 01'40"20 6 6
7. 2 HIRVONEN-LEHTIN SUBARU IMPR A8 1h59'55"600 + 02'41"80 7 7
8. 14 TUOHINO-AHO FORD FOCUS A8 2h01'02"100 + 03'48"30 8 8
9. 13 H.SOLBERG-MENKE PEUGEOT 206 A8 2h02'02"400 + 04'48"60 9 9
10. 16 YAZICI-OKAN FORD FOCUS A8 2h04'11"700 + 06'57"90 10 10
2. 5 GRONHOLM-RAUTIA PEUGEOT 307 A8 1h57'21"300 + 00'07"50 2 2
3. 1 SOLBERG-MILLS SUBARU IMPR A8 1h58'11"000 + 00'57"20 3 3
4. 4 SAINZ-MARTI CITROEN XSA A8 1h58'17"100 + 01'03"30 4 4
5. 8 DUVAL-PREVOT FORD FOCUS A8 1h58'24"000 + 01'10"20 5 5
6. 6 ROVANPERA-PIETI PEUGEOT 307 A8 1h58'54"000 + 01'40"20 6 6
7. 2 HIRVONEN-LEHTIN SUBARU IMPR A8 1h59'55"600 + 02'41"80 7 7
8. 14 TUOHINO-AHO FORD FOCUS A8 2h01'02"100 + 03'48"30 8 8
9. 13 H.SOLBERG-MENKE PEUGEOT 206 A8 2h02'02"400 + 04'48"60 9 9
10. 16 YAZICI-OKAN FORD FOCUS A8 2h04'11"700 + 06'57"90 10 10
| bemani | 06-25-2004 01:58 PM |
down by nearly a minute already????
Don't tell me that this will be Loeb's first gravel rally win. :(
Don't tell me that this will be Loeb's first gravel rally win. :(
| GT2RS | 06-25-2004 06:59 PM |
...you mean second gravel rally win (he won Cyprus after Peugeot's disqualification).
I hope not though! ;)
I hope not though! ;)
| bigcale | 06-25-2004 11:46 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Herbie [/i]
[B]
Its harder to get excited about a fight with the Xsara, since Loeb is just so prickley and "French". I'm constantly rooting for him to blow up... [/B][/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
[B]
Its harder to get excited about a fight with the Xsara, since Loeb is just so prickley and "French". I'm constantly rooting for him to blow up... [/B][/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
| 2cam16 | 06-26-2004 01:13 AM |
Did you guys see how his car got beat-up ?
[IMG]http://www.pbase.com/image/30585397.jpg[/IMG]
:eek: :eek:
[IMG]http://www.pbase.com/image/30585397.jpg[/IMG]
:eek: :eek:
| Scooby South | 06-26-2004 06:55 AM |
Petter Solberg
"It's been a difficult day let me tell you. I tried to do my best but the water splash thing wasn't good and we lost a lot of time there. Since then we've kept trying to make up time, keeping changing little things, but it seems like nothing is making too much difference and it's quite frustrating - that's not really our style. The conditions were very unusual today, and we've struggled to get the tyre choices and the cuts just right but hopefully, looking at the forecast, tomorrow will be a different story."
"It's been a difficult day let me tell you. I tried to do my best but the water splash thing wasn't good and we lost a lot of time there. Since then we've kept trying to make up time, keeping changing little things, but it seems like nothing is making too much difference and it's quite frustrating - that's not really our style. The conditions were very unusual today, and we've struggled to get the tyre choices and the cuts just right but hopefully, looking at the forecast, tomorrow will be a different story."
| bigcale | 06-26-2004 04:01 PM |
check out what happened to marcus!!!
[url]http://www.wrc.com/News.aspx?PO_ID=3559&flash=False&lang=en_GB[/url]
:eek:
[url]http://www.wrc.com/News.aspx?PO_ID=3559&flash=False&lang=en_GB[/url]
:eek:
| 2cam16 | 06-26-2004 08:20 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by bigcale [/i]
[B]check out what happened to marcus!!!
[url]http://www.wrc.com/News.aspx?PO_ID=3559&flash=False&lang=en_GB[/url]
:eek: [/B][/QUOTE]
:eek: :eek:
Wow,what are the chances of that happening,huh ?
[B]check out what happened to marcus!!!
[url]http://www.wrc.com/News.aspx?PO_ID=3559&flash=False&lang=en_GB[/url]
:eek: [/B][/QUOTE]
:eek: :eek:
Wow,what are the chances of that happening,huh ?
| 2cam16 | 06-27-2004 12:17 PM |
Petter 3rd place,Hirvonen 6th. Not bad. At least they got points for themselves and the team.
| WRCar | 06-27-2004 03:27 PM |
I think Petter drove quite well to finish 3rd. He didn't really have a shot at the front runners due to his modified hood scoop (Take that STi). He did manage to set the most (6) fastest stage times, which is good for Subaru.
| stiski | 06-27-2004 04:27 PM |
Anyone read why they decided to take away Loeb's ten second jump start penalty???
| WRCar | 06-27-2004 06:15 PM |
Stiski:
After looking at the video of Loeb's start you can see that he doesn't jump the start, but as soon as the lights went out the car jumped and then stalled. I think the officials thought he jumped the start, but then reviewed the tape of it.
To me it was quite clear that he did not jump the start. I wonder what was going on though... cause he stalled the Citroen a couple times IIRC.
After looking at the video of Loeb's start you can see that he doesn't jump the start, but as soon as the lights went out the car jumped and then stalled. I think the officials thought he jumped the start, but then reviewed the tape of it.
To me it was quite clear that he did not jump the start. I wonder what was going on though... cause he stalled the Citroen a couple times IIRC.
| bemani | 06-28-2004 12:32 AM |
Can you even be considered jumping a start when you stall in the process???
Petter down by 9 points :( ... I was rooting for Marcus to take 1st place from Sabestian, too bad his co-driver got poked in the ass ;)
Petter down by 9 points :( ... I was rooting for Marcus to take 1st place from Sabestian, too bad his co-driver got poked in the ass ;)
| pio!pio! | 06-28-2004 03:31 AM |
Hahahah the Immarsat Arse of the Rally award!! hahahah
I wonder if it actually hit the tender spot
And does anyone else grossed out by Duval's tongue action while driving?
I wonder if it actually hit the tender spot
And does anyone else grossed out by Duval's tongue action while driving?
| joe z | 06-28-2004 08:16 AM |
the best part of the whole rally was the interview with marcus after his co driver got the pole in the ass and he kept give fisting motions :lol: :lol: :lol: i've never laughed so hard watching a rally:p
| Dr. WOT | 06-28-2004 08:44 AM |
Me too, I couldn't help but laugh when Marcus made that jesture. But I felt bad about it until Nicky Grist commented that it was hilarous. Still feel bad for Timo, that had to hurt. It might have cost the the race too.
It's a shame that Perelli got caught out by the conditions because Subaru could have used a good result here. Still 3rd is good and Miko had a good run. I am starting to wonder is picking him was a good idea for a 2 car effort. Weren't they running 3 cars while Petter was learning the ropes? I'm all for nurturing young talent, but you still need to be able to challenge for wins.
It's a shame that Perelli got caught out by the conditions because Subaru could have used a good result here. Still 3rd is good and Miko had a good run. I am starting to wonder is picking him was a good idea for a 2 car effort. Weren't they running 3 cars while Petter was learning the ropes? I'm all for nurturing young talent, but you still need to be able to challenge for wins.
| go go go | 06-28-2004 09:23 AM |
look what happened in super1600
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Suzuki Ignis did 1-2-3 finish!
I know they have like 5 cars but still thats pretty impressive
I'm quite a fan of Ignis, of course after Impreza tho.
I know they have like 5 cars but still thats pretty impressive
I'm quite a fan of Ignis, of course after Impreza tho.
| wrrrx | 06-28-2004 09:52 AM |
I was bummed that Petter didn't really catch fire again until Day 3! It was a decent result, but if he'd been closer, he mighta snatched 2nd from Marcus.
Kinda funny- Nicky bragging about the Pirelli XR's at the beginning- only to have them be a big part of the problem.
Sometimes I really wish SWRT were on Micheins... :(
As far as Miko... well, I still think they shoulda hired [i]Colin[/i] back! Sure he'd crash out plenty, but at least he shakes things up and [B]has some personality[/B]!!! (Plenty, actually).
Interesting little interview w/ Nicky there- Colin looked a tad uncomfortable... mebbe he didn't like being quizzed on camera by his old co-driver?
Russ R
Kinda funny- Nicky bragging about the Pirelli XR's at the beginning- only to have them be a big part of the problem.
Sometimes I really wish SWRT were on Micheins... :(
As far as Miko... well, I still think they shoulda hired [i]Colin[/i] back! Sure he'd crash out plenty, but at least he shakes things up and [B]has some personality[/B]!!! (Plenty, actually).
Interesting little interview w/ Nicky there- Colin looked a tad uncomfortable... mebbe he didn't like being quizzed on camera by his old co-driver?
Russ R
| Neek | 06-28-2004 10:01 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by wrrrx[/i]
[B]
Sometimes I really wish SWRT were on Micheins... :(
[/B][/QUOTE]
I don't think so. Last year in some of the later, wetter rallies, Solberg had a distinct advantage from the Pirellis. I would go as far as to say they were a large factor in his Driver's Championship.
[B]
Sometimes I really wish SWRT were on Micheins... :(
[/B][/QUOTE]
I don't think so. Last year in some of the later, wetter rallies, Solberg had a distinct advantage from the Pirellis. I would go as far as to say they were a large factor in his Driver's Championship.
| SlideWRX | 06-28-2004 11:15 AM |
Most important point I noticed, Robert Ried (Burns' Codriver) came in at the end of the show and said Burns is doing good. He's home from the hospital, although still undergoing treatment. The signs look to be for a good recovery.
Unless Petter becomes a Tarmac Specialist, it looks like Loeb is pretty much set to win the championship.
Tom
Unless Petter becomes a Tarmac Specialist, it looks like Loeb is pretty much set to win the championship.
Tom
| bemani | 06-28-2004 11:39 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by SlideWRX [/i]
[B]Unless Petter becomes a Tarmac Specialist, it looks like Loeb is pretty much set to win the championship.
Tom [/B][/QUOTE]
Wasn't that the prediction last year until Petter won Corsica? :D
[B]Unless Petter becomes a Tarmac Specialist, it looks like Loeb is pretty much set to win the championship.
Tom [/B][/QUOTE]
Wasn't that the prediction last year until Petter won Corsica? :D
| Dr. WOT | 06-28-2004 11:41 AM |
Seb is in great position, but rally racing is unpredictable and a DNF lurks around each bend. The championship will go down to the wire.
| DrBiggly | 06-28-2004 04:32 PM |
I didn't watch the rally until sometime late last night. Crazy to see Petter take the dive in the splash; I don't often see the ROOF SCOOP take in water like that. :eek:
Then after the stage with the metal piece incident, Marcus' words keep sticking in my head: "...right into the ass of Timo." :huh: :lol:
I can only laugh now because it wasn't too serious; just a bruise so they were saying. Still, for something to puncture the bottom of the seat like that is quite bizarre.
Then after the stage with the metal piece incident, Marcus' words keep sticking in my head: "...right into the ass of Timo." :huh: :lol:
I can only laugh now because it wasn't too serious; just a bruise so they were saying. Still, for something to puncture the bottom of the seat like that is quite bizarre.
| Craig W | 06-28-2004 04:36 PM |
Maybe they'll develop some kevlar boxers, called a "Miko Device" to prevent such a situation from happening again.
| DrBiggly | 06-28-2004 04:58 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Craig W[/i]
[B] Maybe they'll develop some kevlar boxers, called a "Miko Device" to prevent such a situation from happening again. [/B][/QUOTE]
:lol:
[B] Maybe they'll develop some kevlar boxers, called a "Miko Device" to prevent such a situation from happening again. [/B][/QUOTE]
:lol:
| bigcale | 06-28-2004 06:30 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Craig W [/i]
[B]Maybe they'll develop some kevlar boxers, called a "Miko Device" to prevent such a situation from happening again. [/B][/QUOTE]
funny, but he guys name is Timo
[B]Maybe they'll develop some kevlar boxers, called a "Miko Device" to prevent such a situation from happening again. [/B][/QUOTE]
funny, but he guys name is Timo
| FaastLegacy | 06-28-2004 07:32 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by bigcale [/i]
[B]funny, but he guys name is Timo [/B][/QUOTE]
:lol:
[B]funny, but he guys name is Timo [/B][/QUOTE]
:lol:
| Craig W | 06-28-2004 07:55 PM |
Whoops. Sorry 'bout that. "Timo Device."
| wrrrx | 06-29-2004 10:04 AM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Neek [/i]
[B]I don't think so. Last year in some of the later, wetter rallies, Solberg had a distinct advantage from the Pirellis. I would go as far as to say they were a large factor in his Driver's Championship. [/B][/QUOTE]
I remember it well- but that was [i]last year[/i]. This year Michelin has improved their wet tarmac tires to the point where the Pirellis no longer have an advantage.
I'd rather level the playing field over the 95% of time that it's not a rainy tarmac rally! :lol:
Russ R
[B]I don't think so. Last year in some of the later, wetter rallies, Solberg had a distinct advantage from the Pirellis. I would go as far as to say they were a large factor in his Driver's Championship. [/B][/QUOTE]
I remember it well- but that was [i]last year[/i]. This year Michelin has improved their wet tarmac tires to the point where the Pirellis no longer have an advantage.
I'd rather level the playing field over the 95% of time that it's not a rainy tarmac rally! :lol:
Russ R
| ShockWave | 06-29-2004 04:57 PM |
I just keep thinking, if only there had been one more stage. Just another 5 or 10k, it could have been so different.
Loeb returns on three wheels because of brake problems. Marcus has a gearbox failure AND a tire fragment.
Just a few more kilometers and Petter could have taken the whole thing! What impresses me more than Loeb's coolness or his speed, cause the man is ice cold and lightning fast, but he has some of the best luck I have ever seen.
Loeb returns on three wheels because of brake problems. Marcus has a gearbox failure AND a tire fragment.
Just a few more kilometers and Petter could have taken the whole thing! What impresses me more than Loeb's coolness or his speed, cause the man is ice cold and lightning fast, but he has some of the best luck I have ever seen.
| 2cam16 | 06-29-2004 11:55 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by wrrrx [/i]
[B]
Interesting little interview w/ Nicky there- Colin looked a tad uncomfortable... mebbe he didn't like being quizzed on camera by his old co-driver?
Russ R [/B][/QUOTE]
He sure did. Not sure but did they part on good terms or not ? :confused:
[B]
Interesting little interview w/ Nicky there- Colin looked a tad uncomfortable... mebbe he didn't like being quizzed on camera by his old co-driver?
Russ R [/B][/QUOTE]
He sure did. Not sure but did they part on good terms or not ? :confused:
| Sauceboy01 | 06-30-2004 05:29 PM |
Turkey can go to hell. i'm not watching this event period!
| Mark Avery | 06-30-2004 06:58 PM |
I'm tired of hearing the "poor tire choice" excuse. Sometimes I wish they would all be on the same spec tire, so car setup and driver talent is more important.
| Dr. WOT | 07-01-2004 12:30 PM |
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sauceboy01 [/i]
[B]Turkey can go to hell. i'm not watching this event period! [/B][/QUOTE]
:huh:
[B]Turkey can go to hell. i'm not watching this event period! [/B][/QUOTE]
:huh:
| DrBiggly | 07-01-2004 01:23 PM |
I agree. That seems like a bit of random mis-placed anger.
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