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Sarrazin to race Spec C at Nürburgring 24 hours part 1

mike270 04-15-2005 02:32 AM

Sarrazin to race Spec C at N�rburgring 24 hours
Should be fun to see how he does. From [url]http://www.subaru-msm.com/global/news/050415.html[/url]

SUBARU World Rally Team driver
St�phanne Sarrazin aims at N�rburgring 24 hours Race


General News
15 April 2005

Copyright � STI
French driver St�phane Sarrazin of SUBARU World Rally Team, is ready to participate in the traditional endurance race "N�rburgring 24 hours race" scheduled on 7th and 8th of May 2005. He will drive IMPREZA WRX STi spec C of an endurance version in the race entered by Prova Racing Division which is active in Super-Taikyu Series in Japan.

The IMPREZA WRX STi spec C is modified specially body&chassis for the endurance race by Prova Racing Division. SUBARU TECNICA INETERNATIONAL (STI) which controls motor sport activities at SUBARU cooperates in the modification and set-up of the engine and the powertrain. STI joins "N�rburgring 24 hours race" project for purposes of St�phane's rally training on tarmac, who became a crew of the team in conformity with SWRT's established fresh driver development programme and data collection for the development of cars which are close to the production cars like those belong to Group N category. STI also considers feedback to the future IMPREZA WRX STi production car.

The N�rburgring Circuit (a combination of the N�rburgring GP circuit and the old Nordschleife circuit for a lap of 25.378km ) located in the western part of Germany is used for the 24 hours race. It is a classic event for touring cars which attracts as many as 200 entrants every year. The endurance race is a historical event which will be the 33rd competition to be held this year and is known as one of the 3 biggest endurance races in Europe in line with Le Mans 24 hours race in France and Spa-Francorchamps 24 hours race in Belgium.

The greatest characteristic of this event is the course itself. Especially the old course (Nordschleife) is the longest winding circuit in the world that meanders through a forest of Eifel plateau. The course has corners of over 160, steep ups & downs and many blind &: crests that are harsh for the cars and drivers with intense lateral, vertical and longitudinal Gs. SUBARU has been using this track for over 10 years as a testing field for developing production cars.

The Prova Racing Division is a touring car endurance racing specialist which participates in all the event of Super-Taikyu Series from its inception at the circuits in various parts of Japan. This is their first challenge however, they are expected at higher positions making use of their experience in Super-Taikyu and profound know-how of set-up of IMPREZA.

Participation Outline
*Name of the race: The 33rd International ADAC Zurich 24 hours race
*Schedule: May 7th~8th 2005
*Team: PROVA RACING DIVISION
*Name of the car: ENTHUSIA IMPREZA
*Car: SUBARU IMPREZA WRX STi spec C (GDB Type)
*Drivers: Kazuo Shimizu, Toshihiro Yoshida, St�phane Sarrazin, Kumi Sato.
sirwrx273 04-15-2005 03:39 AM

can we watch this on the tele?

S
mw1029h 04-15-2005 04:50 AM

Yep but not live and I think the SPD event is a hour, but its a good hour. Opel astra V8,Vipers, Skyline, Porche, BMW, Audi DTM, to name a few entries. Has anyone see a race at Spa on SPD.
makofoto 04-18-2005 03:00 PM

BMW is entering their M3 GTR (remember the Hans Stuck video that's been floating around!) for one last time ... it won last time out.

I wonder if the Nurburgring Taxi driver Sabine has a ride? She's a former winner of this 24 hour race ...
WRXedUSA 05-09-2005 09:53 AM

Finished 14th overall, 15 laps down.

Not to shabby.
makofoto 05-09-2005 11:48 AM

Where can we find more details
dwx 05-09-2005 12:36 PM

[url]http://adac.24h-rennen.de/index.asp?sprache=eng&content=[/url]

Results:

[url]http://www-01.24h-rennen.de/content/result_index.asp?sprache=eng[/url]

[img]http://20832.com/images/2005/050507_r/20050507134202_jpb.jpg[/img]
[img]http://20832.com/images/2005/050507_r/20050507142504_mike.jpg[/img]
[img]http://20832.com/images/2005/050506_r/20050506102629_heppy.jpg[/img]
[img]http://20832.com/images/2005/050506_r/20050506111333_mike.jpg[/img]
makofoto 05-09-2005 12:43 PM

ooops ...
dwx 05-09-2005 12:45 PM

The STI finished 2nd in its class, A6, to the NSX-R in front of it. Only 1 lap difference, about 8 minutes.
makofoto 05-09-2005 12:49 PM

Boris Said was in the winning GTR!

A Viper was 3rd

Cutie V. Ickx was 6th

216 cars were in the results
blksubie 05-09-2005 10:10 PM

[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]Finished 14th overall, 15 laps down.

Not to shabby.[/QUOTE]


Finishing a 24 hour race is great but coming 14 out of 200+ cars damn good....
FRSTi 05-10-2005 06:33 AM

Another great performance for Stephane Sarrazin (and the Prova team) ;)

Actually, it is not that much surprising : before joining the Subaru WRT, he was french rally champion (100% tarmac) and a top formula driver (F1 test pilot for Prost F1, F3000 champion, etc...). He's familiar with both Impreza and track racing...

I just wonder how many wheel bearings they replaced during those 24h ? :D :D :D
johnfelstead 05-10-2005 06:49 PM

Kazuo Shimizu is the driver i was chatting to last year about the 2005 Spec C, he is the guy who set the spec C lap record. Nice guy.

They wouldnt have had any problems to have finished 15th, thats a superb result.
bemani 05-10-2005 07:30 PM

BMW pulled their engineers away from this race to fix their F1 engines and they still won? That's awesome.
TubeDriver 05-11-2005 10:38 AM

The car in 215th place (S2000) had Bugs Bunny as a co-driver. Awesome! :alien:
parker/slc/gc8fan 05-11-2005 01:35 PM

congrats to prova racing for a wonderful showing on a realitvly unknown track

way to go guys! cant wait to meet you.
johnfelstead 05-11-2005 08:47 PM

relatively unknown track? They test there all the time, Kaz is the oficial Subaru works test driver at the 'ring and knows it like the back of his hand.
foofoo982 05-11-2005 08:59 PM

Hopefuly they keep doing the endurance races, I think it could bring a new crowd to subaru possibly (at least in Europe where there's more publicity for it). Plus, could help a lot with engine testing in the future. I vote for Subaru and Prova to do it again :). Damn, 14/200+ is good.
WRXedUSA 05-12-2005 11:32 AM

More information and an interview with Stephane is available here:

[url]http://www.subaru-msm.com/global/news/050511.html[/url]

[IMG]http://www.subaru-msm.com/global/news/photo/050511_1.jpg[/IMG]
WRXedUSA 06-03-2005 12:47 AM

Upon further review. If you look closely on the Impreza, you can see the air deflector on the rear glass that will be featured on the 2006 STi lineup.

Interesting. This is the first appearance of that feature that I have seen.
MattDell 06-03-2005 12:58 AM

^n00b!! WTLW!!!


Oh wait, thought I was in OT. ;)

-Matt
Homemade WRX 06-03-2005 01:00 AM

[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]Upon further review. If you look closely on the Impreza, you can see the air deflector on the rear glass that will be featured on the 2006 STi lineup.

Interesting. This is the first appearance of that feature that I have seen.[/QUOTE]
interesting I knew nothing about this...I guess they really are trying to lower drag and feed some air to that high rear spoiler
sersen 06-03-2005 10:40 AM

Here's a good pic of that air flow diverter, it looks like it drilled into the C-pillar.
That sure is a steep angle, seems like it would direct air below the rear wing.

...
[IMG]http://www.jprova.co.jp/race/nur/images/03_03.jpg[/IMG]
makofoto 06-03-2005 10:50 AM

Imagine that without that diverter there is a low pressure area above the rear window ... swirling air that creates lift. The diverter forces air into that area ... that can then flow through the wing to create down force ...
rbehny 06-03-2005 03:14 PM

any idea why they'd have tein and bilstein logo's on their car? Oh and any more photo's of the rear air diverter, wonder why they didn't go to vortex generators ala the evo mr.
Chromer 06-03-2005 03:27 PM

[QUOTE=FRSTi]I just wonder how many wheel bearings they replaced during those 24h ? :D :D :D[/QUOTE]

One. (At about 6 hours, according to the article linked in this thread.)

Excellent result for their first time out.
makofoto 06-03-2005 03:30 PM

I think the question is ... why does the MR have Vortex Generators ... when others uses a Diverter ... :-)

The Vortex Generators are suppose to break up the smooth air flow as it gets to the point of the roof where it sucks down and tumbles ...

I have to imagine that the diverter would be much more efficient in controlling rather then just breaking up the air flow ...

In SCCA Solo2 I HAVE to put on decals from the event/series sponsor ... even if I don't use those products. Perhaps that's why they have both Tein and Bilstein decals on the car ...
WRXedUSA 06-03-2005 03:51 PM

Bilstien = German Company (Thyssen Krupp)
Nurburgring24 = German Race

Most likely an event sponsor.
nate49509 06-03-2005 04:36 PM

Man, I love this car!

[IMG]http://images6.fotki.com/v92/photos/1/173442/2264644/01_03-vi.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://images6.fotki.com/v92/photos/1/173442/2264644/02_02-vi.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://images6.fotki.com/v92/photos/1/173442/2264644/04_02-vi.jpg[/IMG]
johnfelstead 06-03-2005 05:44 PM

[QUOTE=WRXedUSA]Bilstien = German Company (Thyssen Krupp)
Nurburgring24 = German Race

Most likely an event sponsor.[/QUOTE]

Yup, Bilstein stickers have to be carried as they sponsor the race.
makofoto 06-03-2005 08:04 PM

Is there any place where they list the specs on this car ... tires, sizes, etc ...
AlpineFD 06-03-2005 08:15 PM

wow they are using TEIN, i'm surprised :) I was expecting something like moton.
WRXedUSA 06-04-2005 12:20 AM

[QUOTE=makofoto]Is there any place where they list the specs on this car ... tires, sizes, etc ...[/QUOTE]

I'd be curious of the suspension settings. It would be great to maximize tire wear on a road course.

I'm sure if you email STi they can give you a link. The purpose of this race was to run durability tests for the SpecC.
johnfelstead 06-04-2005 06:12 AM

The purpose of the race was Marketing, just like any other major manufacturers racing program.
RaceComp Engineering 06-04-2005 08:57 AM

[QUOTE=AlpineFD]wow they are using TEIN, i'm surprised :) I was expecting something like moton.[/QUOTE]

Me too !!

mw
WRXedUSA 06-04-2005 10:22 AM

[QUOTE=mike270]Should be fun to see how he does. From [url]http://www.subaru-msm.com/global/news/050415.html[/url]

SUBARU World Rally Team driver
St�phanne Sarrazin aims at N�rburgring 24 hours Race


General News
15 April 2005

Copyright � STI
French driver St�phane Sarrazin of SUBARU World Rally Team, is ready to participate in the traditional endurance race "N�rburgring 24 hours race" scheduled on 7th and 8th of May 2005. He will drive IMPREZA WRX STi spec C of an endurance version in the race entered by Prova Racing Division which is active in Super-Taikyu Series in Japan.

The IMPREZA WRX STi spec C is modified specially body&chassis for the endurance race by Prova Racing Division. SUBARU TECNICA INETERNATIONAL (STI) which controls motor sport activities at SUBARU cooperates in the modification and set-up of the engine and the powertrain. [B] STI joins "N�rburgring 24 hours race" project for purposes of St�phane's rally training on tarmac, who became a crew of the team in conformity with SWRT's established fresh driver development programme and data collection for the development of cars which are close to the production cars like those belong to Group N category. STI also considers feedback to the future IMPREZA WRX STi production car. [/B]

The N�rburgring Circuit (a combination of the N�rburgring GP circuit and the old Nordschleife circuit for a lap of 25.378km ) located in the western part of Germany is used for the 24 hours race. It is a classic event for touring cars which attracts as many as 200 entrants every year. The endurance race is a historical event which will be the 33rd competition to be held this year and is known as one of the 3 biggest endurance races in Europe in line with Le Mans 24 hours race in France and Spa-Francorchamps 24 hours race in Belgium.

The greatest characteristic of this event is the course itself. Especially the old course (Nordschleife) is the longest winding circuit in the world that meanders through a forest of Eifel plateau. The course has corners of over 160, steep ups & downs and many blind &: crests that are harsh for the cars and drivers with intense lateral, vertical and longitudinal Gs. SUBARU has been using this track for over 10 years as a testing field for developing production cars.

The Prova Racing Division is a touring car endurance racing specialist which participates in all the event of Super-Taikyu Series from its inception at the circuits in various parts of Japan. This is their first challenge however, they are expected at higher positions making use of their experience in Super-Taikyu and profound know-how of set-up of IMPREZA.

Participation Outline
*Name of the race: The 33rd International ADAC Zurich 24 hours race
*Schedule: May 7th~8th 2005
*Team: PROVA RACING DIVISION
*Name of the car: ENTHUSIA IMPREZA
*Car: SUBARU IMPREZA WRX STi spec C (GDB Type)
*Drivers: Kazuo Shimizu, Toshihiro Yoshida, St�phane Sarrazin, Kumi Sato.[/QUOTE]

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johnfelstead 06-04-2005 10:52 AM

:lol:

Subaru have a dedicated test facility at the Nurburgring, they dont need to run in the race to durabilty test the car. The testing they do daily is far more relevent than the race car running, which is significantly diferent in terms of durability spec and chassis rigidity. I have met Kaz there whilst he was testing the production STi's, which he does regularly.

Thanks for the marketing press release. ;):D
Homemade WRX 06-04-2005 05:35 PM

[QUOTE=makofoto]I think the question is ... why does the MR have Vortex Generators ... when others uses a Diverter ... :-)

The Vortex Generators are suppose to break up the smooth air flow as it gets to the point of the roof where it sucks down and tumbles ...

I have to imagine that the diverter would be much more efficient in controlling rather then just breaking up the air flow ...
[/QUOTE]
drag possibly...some F1 cars have actually used vortex generators on there undertrays to break up the airflow in there venturis because the drag value is so low for the benefit gained
just look at the skin friction alone from the generators vs. that of the diverter
makofoto 06-04-2005 06:34 PM

true ... but I (means nothing!) can't imagine how having the swirling air (Vortex Generators) hitting the rear wing can be very effective ?

Seems like the Diverter "controls" the air "better." ... again ... what do I know! :-)
rbehny 06-05-2005 03:04 AM

maybe it has to do with the additional drag a rear diverter airfoil would create compared to vortex generators.

They also might look at it as the lesser of two evils and which has the most gains with the least amount of drawbacks.
makofoto 06-05-2005 08:11 AM

The idea behind both of them is to reduce the drag created by the sedan rear window area ... which creates a low pressure area (lift) as the compressed air flowing over the roof suddenly has the bottom drop out on it. On our WRX wagons ... the little spoiler thingy trys to extend the swirling air further away from the rear of the car. Sedans have two areas that create turbulence and lift ... the end of the roof and the end of the trunk lid. A wagon only has the one. The high-ish wing on the STI/EVO's is taking advantage of the clean-ish area of air flow off the roof ... that is somewhat sucked down by the low pressure area above the rear window. The diverter would seem to give smoother air flow over the rear window ... creating less low air pressure ... and then flowing over the top of the trunk lid and I guess, under the wing.

Their was an Evo Vs. STI test @ the Nurburgring in a german magazine that showed that the STI rear wing created an amazing amount of downforce ... forcing the nose up at high speed. Perhaps the strakes on the front side of the STI are to help counter that rear down force ?
Homemade WRX 06-05-2005 07:26 PM

[QUOTE=rbehny]maybe it has to do with the additional drag a rear diverter airfoil would create compared to vortex generators.
[/QUOTE]
exactly what I was saying...thanks rob
my motorsports aero class is paying off
and yes makofoto...the diverter would give less of a deadwater region over and behind the trunk by lesseing the deadwater region thus giving more even pressure over over the whole rear end
48mpg 06-05-2005 07:51 PM

so two different approaches to do the same thing.

maybe thats why the EVO WRC has its spoiler so close to the rear glass, i dont recall it having the vortex generators
Homemade WRX 06-06-2005 12:04 AM

[QUOTE=48mpg]so two different approaches to do the same thing.

maybe thats why the EVO WRC has its spoiler so close to the rear glass, i dont recall it having the vortex generators[/QUOTE]
1. exactly
2. exactly, also it causes less lift on the front of the car therefore requiring less fontal downforce=less drag
mnavarro 06-06-2005 01:28 AM

Do you know what the fastest laptime for the sti was during this race. I think I read it had the 5/6 fastest time around the track.
makofoto 06-06-2005 03:29 AM

Anyone know what size wheels and tires ... and what type of tires they used during the event ... dry and rain ...
caterpill 06-06-2005 04:31 AM

Holy smokes, ~5 degrees of camber in the rear. Haha..

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