| gerald06sti | 08-29-2006 02:11 PM |
Should I do this - tell me what you think!
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Okay I have always had a pipe dream of being in a Rally and or someday being a rally car driver. Now that's a LOOOONG way off and most likely will never happen. However the below link may allow me to get a taste of what it would be like. The only thing is if this is really worth the expense for what I would be getting. So I'd like fellow members to chime in and give me your .02 cents.
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/Rally-Race-Car-Co-Driver-Ride-at-Wild-West-%20Rally_W0QQitemZ200021990714QQihZ010QQcategoryZ16071QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem[/url]
I would have to put this on credit, but what a cool vacation! I'd much rather spend free time going really fast at a rally than bake on a beach. Not that a beach is a bad thing, but who gets to be in a professional rally when you are just an average joe like myself?
[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/Rally-Race-Car-Co-Driver-Ride-at-Wild-West-%20Rally_W0QQitemZ200021990714QQihZ010QQcategoryZ16071QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem[/url]
I would have to put this on credit, but what a cool vacation! I'd much rather spend free time going really fast at a rally than bake on a beach. Not that a beach is a bad thing, but who gets to be in a professional rally when you are just an average joe like myself?
| bjorn240 | 08-29-2006 02:42 PM |
Actually, that's not such a bad deal. If it included the suit and helmet rental, I'd say go for it. It's also not clear if it includes the purchase of stagenotes.
As it is, I think you could actually go co-drive your first rally somewhat cheaper, but it would certainly be more work to put the whole thing together than this option. And you're pretty assured of being safe with Charles.
Oh, and I wouldn't borrow money to spend on a non-appreciable asset, ever. So I think you should save you $800 and do it when you have the money. It would be easy to put a deal like this together any time you have the money.
Are you local to Washingon, btw?
- Christian
As it is, I think you could actually go co-drive your first rally somewhat cheaper, but it would certainly be more work to put the whole thing together than this option. And you're pretty assured of being safe with Charles.
Oh, and I wouldn't borrow money to spend on a non-appreciable asset, ever. So I think you should save you $800 and do it when you have the money. It would be easy to put a deal like this together any time you have the money.
Are you local to Washingon, btw?
- Christian
| Protege Menace | 08-29-2006 02:49 PM |
wow, I suppose thats ONE way to get your co to share the expenses :lol:
| spazegun2213 | 08-29-2006 03:42 PM |
gerald,
[B]uhh why not[/B]? Hell that is a [B]GREAT[/B] price for all of that! you get training and to be in the action! You will get to meet people and network a little. if you really want to do it $800 is a small price to pay for having a blast.
Also think of what you can do after? You can always contact that team and see if you could be part of the action a little more. This would be a great first step for you.. i mean you have to do something.
I recently bought a race car, to complete a dream of mine to race wheel to wheel. In Feb of 07 I'll get to do that :)
good luck!
[B]uhh why not[/B]? Hell that is a [B]GREAT[/B] price for all of that! you get training and to be in the action! You will get to meet people and network a little. if you really want to do it $800 is a small price to pay for having a blast.
Also think of what you can do after? You can always contact that team and see if you could be part of the action a little more. This would be a great first step for you.. i mean you have to do something.
I recently bought a race car, to complete a dream of mine to race wheel to wheel. In Feb of 07 I'll get to do that :)
good luck!
| bjorn240 | 08-29-2006 04:02 PM |
First event costs for a co-driver:
Borrow suit: $0
Borrow helmet: $0
1/2 Entry fee (if you're a sucker): $175 - 400
Competition license (regional only): $100
Hotel room (two nights): $200
Stagenotes (if you want to act bigtime and can't convince driver to pay): $150
A couple of 2mm leadholders and a maglite: $15
Incidentals (eg beer): $50
Yeah, ok, this doesn't look like such a bad deal, except only sucker co-drivers pay half-entry. Yeah, I know there are quite a few who do it. That doesn't make them any less suckery.
Also, I wonder what the "novice co-driver school" is. If it's just the RA Novice school, well, then that's no bargain. If it's a dedicated co-driving school taught by someone like Dave Kean or Alan Perry, well, then that's probably worth $250-300.
- Christian
Borrow suit: $0
Borrow helmet: $0
1/2 Entry fee (if you're a sucker): $175 - 400
Competition license (regional only): $100
Hotel room (two nights): $200
Stagenotes (if you want to act bigtime and can't convince driver to pay): $150
A couple of 2mm leadholders and a maglite: $15
Incidentals (eg beer): $50
Yeah, ok, this doesn't look like such a bad deal, except only sucker co-drivers pay half-entry. Yeah, I know there are quite a few who do it. That doesn't make them any less suckery.
Also, I wonder what the "novice co-driver school" is. If it's just the RA Novice school, well, then that's no bargain. If it's a dedicated co-driving school taught by someone like Dave Kean or Alan Perry, well, then that's probably worth $250-300.
- Christian
| pinter | 08-29-2006 04:50 PM |
Wild West this year is not going to have any notes, only the route book. Probably good for a first event, although I did 2-pass recce and then ran those notes on my first event.
Still, $800 + travel expenses seems like a lot for co-driving. I'd pass on this and try and find a local rally where you may pay half the entry fee and for half a hotel room and food. You could do that for $400 or less easy, mostly depending on entry fee.
Co-driving is a great way to get into rallying for cheaper than running your own car.
- Ian
sucker co-driver
Still, $800 + travel expenses seems like a lot for co-driving. I'd pass on this and try and find a local rally where you may pay half the entry fee and for half a hotel room and food. You could do that for $400 or less easy, mostly depending on entry fee.
Co-driving is a great way to get into rallying for cheaper than running your own car.
- Ian
sucker co-driver
| gerald06sti | 08-30-2006 11:14 AM |
Well I am going to guess that this experience would probably be closer to 2000usd rather than 800. I'd have the 800, (assuming I won the aution at that price), plus 200 for rentals and not sure how much for plane/car rental. Also factor in some spending money; I'd be staying at or near a casino so I'd probably want to take advantage of that.
I agree it could possibly be a good foot in the door. I'd at least have some sort of experience on my Rally resume if I were to hook up with a more local rally/team/group of people. Honestly co-driving is probably what I could afford to do now more so than driving. I don't have the money to purchase a second car for Rally, nor the expertise to pilot such a vehicle.
So maybe a co-driving school would be a better way to go? I recall on another thread I posted/created about breaking in to Rally Team O'Neil was mentioned. Perhaps the money spent on the eBay auction would be better spent at Team O'Neil?
I agree it could possibly be a good foot in the door. I'd at least have some sort of experience on my Rally resume if I were to hook up with a more local rally/team/group of people. Honestly co-driving is probably what I could afford to do now more so than driving. I don't have the money to purchase a second car for Rally, nor the expertise to pilot such a vehicle.
So maybe a co-driving school would be a better way to go? I recall on another thread I posted/created about breaking in to Rally Team O'Neil was mentioned. Perhaps the money spent on the eBay auction would be better spent at Team O'Neil?
| RallyCat66 | 08-30-2006 11:59 AM |
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Hmmm.. Charles, you might want to reword that a little. :rolleyes:
:lol:
Hmmm.. Charles, you might want to reword that a little. :rolleyes:
| bjorn240 | 08-30-2006 12:08 PM |
For $2,000 you could have a lot of fun at Team O'Neil, that's for sure. My little driver friend is hanging out there today, actually!
- Christian
- Christian
| gerald06sti | 08-30-2006 04:16 PM |
Yeah after checking out Team O'Neil I am thinking that may be a better choice. I could attend a 2 day rally school for about 1600. I might be able to squeeze the whole trip for around 2k. Or I could just do a 1 day for under 500 and certianly fit in the whole trip for under 2k easy.
| jcroy66 | 08-30-2006 04:32 PM |
[quote=bjorn240;15061378]Oh, and I wouldn't borrow money to spend on a non-appreciable asset, ever. So I think you should save you $800 and do it when you have the money. It would be easy to put a deal like this together any time you have the money.[/quote]Absolutely. It seems insane to me to blow money you don't have because you "have a new credit card".
| RB5 Clone | 08-30-2006 04:49 PM |
[QUOTE=gerald06sti;15077278]Yeah after checking out Team O'Neil I am thinking that may be a better choice. I could attend a 2 day rally school for about 1600. I might be able to squeeze the whole trip for around 2k. Or I could just do a 1 day for under 500 and certianly fit in the whole trip for under 2k easy.[/QUOTE]
Question is, do you want to be a rally driver (and rally car owner/builder/tow vehicle/trailer owner/builder/mechanic/etc) or just get a taste of what rallying is like in the most realistic setting?
Don't get me wrong--I'm a Team O instructor, and you'd have a blast at the school spanking our cars around in the dirt. But doing a real rally in real rally conditions...that's something even the most dialed-in school can't deliver.
So if you want to be a DRIVER, go to Team O (and then work at getting a basic rally-prepped car together and doing some rallyxes to gain seat time, then be prepared to buy/build a stage-prepped car, come up with a tow rig and trailer, tools, spare parts, more tools, a few buddies to be your service crew...and oh yeah, a codriver.
OR
you can start out by codriving and get a taste of what all the craziness is about...without having to do all that other stuff first. If you like rallying from the right seat, then Team O has a codriver school as well. ;)
Co-drivers can indeed make the transition to the other seat, it just takes time, dedication and $. I started out by crewing, then codriving, then rallyx, then buying a stage rally car, tow rig, trailer, etc and now am very far gone down the slippy slope. Zero regrets, tho!
Dave G
Question is, do you want to be a rally driver (and rally car owner/builder/tow vehicle/trailer owner/builder/mechanic/etc) or just get a taste of what rallying is like in the most realistic setting?
Don't get me wrong--I'm a Team O instructor, and you'd have a blast at the school spanking our cars around in the dirt. But doing a real rally in real rally conditions...that's something even the most dialed-in school can't deliver.
So if you want to be a DRIVER, go to Team O (and then work at getting a basic rally-prepped car together and doing some rallyxes to gain seat time, then be prepared to buy/build a stage-prepped car, come up with a tow rig and trailer, tools, spare parts, more tools, a few buddies to be your service crew...and oh yeah, a codriver.
OR
you can start out by codriving and get a taste of what all the craziness is about...without having to do all that other stuff first. If you like rallying from the right seat, then Team O has a codriver school as well. ;)
Co-drivers can indeed make the transition to the other seat, it just takes time, dedication and $. I started out by crewing, then codriving, then rallyx, then buying a stage rally car, tow rig, trailer, etc and now am very far gone down the slippy slope. Zero regrets, tho!
Dave G
| mykrrrr | 08-30-2006 05:30 PM |
[QUOTE=bjorn240;15062554]
Yeah, ok, this doesn't look like such a bad deal, except only sucker co-drivers pay half-entry. Yeah, I know there are quite a few who do it. That doesn't make them any less suckery.
- Christian[/QUOTE]
Tad bit elitist and biased of a statement Christian? :rolleyes: Most of us rallyists aren't blessed w/the deep pockets of a major manufacturer and the subsequent sponsors the guy in the seat next to you brings w/him.
For the grassroots rallyist like myself, I don't see anyway around the driver and co-driver splitting costs.
My friend Tom and I are embarking on our first rally this Oct @ LSPR. I consider myself very lucky to only have to pay for 1/2 our entry fees and some wear and tear on my tow vehicle.
Perhaps we'll get real sponsors some day but for now it's all about scraping up enough money to enjoy something I've admired since a very young age.
-mykr "the sucker in the right seat"
teamBALLAST
Yeah, ok, this doesn't look like such a bad deal, except only sucker co-drivers pay half-entry. Yeah, I know there are quite a few who do it. That doesn't make them any less suckery.
- Christian[/QUOTE]
Tad bit elitist and biased of a statement Christian? :rolleyes: Most of us rallyists aren't blessed w/the deep pockets of a major manufacturer and the subsequent sponsors the guy in the seat next to you brings w/him.
For the grassroots rallyist like myself, I don't see anyway around the driver and co-driver splitting costs.
My friend Tom and I are embarking on our first rally this Oct @ LSPR. I consider myself very lucky to only have to pay for 1/2 our entry fees and some wear and tear on my tow vehicle.
Perhaps we'll get real sponsors some day but for now it's all about scraping up enough money to enjoy something I've admired since a very young age.
-mykr "the sucker in the right seat"
teamBALLAST
| bjorn240 | 08-30-2006 05:57 PM |
No, it's not an elitist statement.
I've been co-driving since 1998, and from the very beginning I have had and stuck to deals to cover my own travel to the event, meals, and (sometimes) my own hotel room. I've always offered to share a room with one of the crew if paying for one, and it goes without saying that you'll share if you're not. And I usually buy a round of drinks in the bar. (Still!)
And you know why people have agreed to do this with me? Because I've worked my arse off in the right seat and made sure never to take road points (except for one sorry day in Canada - sorry ACP!), to always deliver the notes perfectly, to prepare complete movement and service schedules, to book travel for the team, and simply be better prepared than the next guy. You should recognize that really good co-drivers are few and far between. If you have the skills, you will get good seats. Simple as that. And frankly (and this is a bit elitist), if someone's going to a rally depends on your $400 contribution, the likelihood of having a DNF for some other stupid reason goes way way up. Drivers who look for good co-drivers are drivers who are generally very serious and that shows in car prep etc.
Of course, if your close friends with your driver and you absolutely want to ride with him, the calculus changes. But if you're just going out and looking for good seats, you don't have to pay half entry. Other than my first driver, I've never run with a guy because he was my friend. I've become friends with all the drivers I've sat with, of course, but that wasn't the reason they wanted me in the car. They wanted me in the car because they thought I would help them achieve their goals, and vice versa.
- Christian
I've been co-driving since 1998, and from the very beginning I have had and stuck to deals to cover my own travel to the event, meals, and (sometimes) my own hotel room. I've always offered to share a room with one of the crew if paying for one, and it goes without saying that you'll share if you're not. And I usually buy a round of drinks in the bar. (Still!)
And you know why people have agreed to do this with me? Because I've worked my arse off in the right seat and made sure never to take road points (except for one sorry day in Canada - sorry ACP!), to always deliver the notes perfectly, to prepare complete movement and service schedules, to book travel for the team, and simply be better prepared than the next guy. You should recognize that really good co-drivers are few and far between. If you have the skills, you will get good seats. Simple as that. And frankly (and this is a bit elitist), if someone's going to a rally depends on your $400 contribution, the likelihood of having a DNF for some other stupid reason goes way way up. Drivers who look for good co-drivers are drivers who are generally very serious and that shows in car prep etc.
Of course, if your close friends with your driver and you absolutely want to ride with him, the calculus changes. But if you're just going out and looking for good seats, you don't have to pay half entry. Other than my first driver, I've never run with a guy because he was my friend. I've become friends with all the drivers I've sat with, of course, but that wasn't the reason they wanted me in the car. They wanted me in the car because they thought I would help them achieve their goals, and vice versa.
- Christian
| mykrrrr | 08-30-2006 06:03 PM |
[QUOTE=bjorn240;15078700]No, it's not an elitist statement.
I've been co-driving since 1998, and from the very beginning I have had and stuck to deals to cover my own travel to the event, meals, and (sometimes) my own hotel room. I've always offered to share a room with one of the crew if paying for one, and it goes without saying that you'll share if you're not. And I usually buy a round of drinks in the bar. (Still!)
And you know why people have agreed to do this with me? Because I've worked my arse off in the right seat and made sure never to take road points (except for one sorry day in Canada - sorry ACP!), to always deliver the notes perfectly, to prepare complete movement and service schedules, to book travel for the team, and simply be better prepared than the next guy. You should recognize that really good co-drivers are few and far between. If you have the skills, you will get good seats. Simple as that. And frankly (and this is a bit elitist), if someone's going to a rally depends on your $400 contribution, the likelihood of having a DNF for some other stupid reason goes way way up. Drivers who look for good co-drivers are drivers who are generally very serious and that shows in car prep etc.
Of course, if your close friends with your driver and you absolutely want to ride with him, the calculus changes. But if you're just going out and looking for good seats, you don't have to pay half entry. Other than my first driver, I've never run with a guy because he was my friend. I've become friends with all the drivers I've sat with, of course, but that wasn't the reason they wanted me in the car. They wanted me in the car because they thought I would help them achieve their goals, and vice versa.
- Christian[/QUOTE]
I'm not doubting your commitment and/or skills one bit, I admire your skills and envy you for the people and places you get to meet/see but to say we're suckers for paying is just sorta lame. Crazy to sit next to some drivers yes...suckers for participating in a motorsport we love (even if we have to pay our way)...[b]no[/b].
Let's debate this over a pint @ LSPR. :D :lol:
I've been co-driving since 1998, and from the very beginning I have had and stuck to deals to cover my own travel to the event, meals, and (sometimes) my own hotel room. I've always offered to share a room with one of the crew if paying for one, and it goes without saying that you'll share if you're not. And I usually buy a round of drinks in the bar. (Still!)
And you know why people have agreed to do this with me? Because I've worked my arse off in the right seat and made sure never to take road points (except for one sorry day in Canada - sorry ACP!), to always deliver the notes perfectly, to prepare complete movement and service schedules, to book travel for the team, and simply be better prepared than the next guy. You should recognize that really good co-drivers are few and far between. If you have the skills, you will get good seats. Simple as that. And frankly (and this is a bit elitist), if someone's going to a rally depends on your $400 contribution, the likelihood of having a DNF for some other stupid reason goes way way up. Drivers who look for good co-drivers are drivers who are generally very serious and that shows in car prep etc.
Of course, if your close friends with your driver and you absolutely want to ride with him, the calculus changes. But if you're just going out and looking for good seats, you don't have to pay half entry. Other than my first driver, I've never run with a guy because he was my friend. I've become friends with all the drivers I've sat with, of course, but that wasn't the reason they wanted me in the car. They wanted me in the car because they thought I would help them achieve their goals, and vice versa.
- Christian[/QUOTE]
I'm not doubting your commitment and/or skills one bit, I admire your skills and envy you for the people and places you get to meet/see but to say we're suckers for paying is just sorta lame. Crazy to sit next to some drivers yes...suckers for participating in a motorsport we love (even if we have to pay our way)...[b]no[/b].
Let's debate this over a pint @ LSPR. :D :lol:
| bjorn240 | 08-30-2006 06:06 PM |
Fair enough - but you get my point about not HAVING to pay, yeah? I just hate to see really good co-drivers getting slagged off because they won't pay to play.
I'll buy the beers (since I'm riding for free these days - how freaking cool is that)! See you at the Library. I'm serious.
- Christian
BTW: You still have that Zook supermotard? Can you convince my wife... ?
I'll buy the beers (since I'm riding for free these days - how freaking cool is that)! See you at the Library. I'm serious.
- Christian
BTW: You still have that Zook supermotard? Can you convince my wife... ?
| Easy Rider | 08-30-2006 06:26 PM |
I agree with Christian on this one.
I have paid for 99% of my teams costs. Including my Co Drivers suit and helmet. (I guess technically I still own them?)
My Co Driver is responsible for Co Driving - period. We started to gether as "guys who used to race karts together" we are now friends who rally.
I see it as a "if he is willing to put his life in my hands . . . " kinda deal.
That said, he always picks up beers and a dinner or 2 - plus he seems to always have cash for the extra banquet ticket for the crew guys.
It's my car + my team + my store name on the car = my costs.
Just my 2�
(there I go spending my money again)
I have paid for 99% of my teams costs. Including my Co Drivers suit and helmet. (I guess technically I still own them?)
My Co Driver is responsible for Co Driving - period. We started to gether as "guys who used to race karts together" we are now friends who rally.
I see it as a "if he is willing to put his life in my hands . . . " kinda deal.
That said, he always picks up beers and a dinner or 2 - plus he seems to always have cash for the extra banquet ticket for the crew guys.
It's my car + my team + my store name on the car = my costs.
Just my 2�
(there I go spending my money again)
| The neck | 08-30-2006 07:59 PM |
Christian
I pay my co-driver's way, but he is serious, dedicated, and a much much better mechanic than me. I wouldn't expect a co-driver like him, much less one like you to pay anything.
But, before my current co-driver, I have had three co-drivers get me lost on transits, once causing a DNF. A co-driver is an important component of the team and his or her value varies according to his or her proven ability to contribute. A dedicated, experienced and proven co-driver has tremendous value, but a first-timer, or a dilletante is a liability.
I would not spend all the time and money on prepping the car and entering a rally just to give a new co-driver a chance to see if they like it or have the aptitude for it. In other words I wouldn't pay all the expenses of a co-driver's apprenticeship.
I think $800 is a great deal for a first-timer.
For a co-driver like you, however, I would pay a fee.
I pay my co-driver's way, but he is serious, dedicated, and a much much better mechanic than me. I wouldn't expect a co-driver like him, much less one like you to pay anything.
But, before my current co-driver, I have had three co-drivers get me lost on transits, once causing a DNF. A co-driver is an important component of the team and his or her value varies according to his or her proven ability to contribute. A dedicated, experienced and proven co-driver has tremendous value, but a first-timer, or a dilletante is a liability.
I would not spend all the time and money on prepping the car and entering a rally just to give a new co-driver a chance to see if they like it or have the aptitude for it. In other words I wouldn't pay all the expenses of a co-driver's apprenticeship.
I think $800 is a great deal for a first-timer.
For a co-driver like you, however, I would pay a fee.
| greg donovan | 08-30-2006 09:54 PM |
the way i see it is that the more a co-driver brings to the table the less they should have to pay.
i have only run 2 club events so i would expect to pay more and i would consider the driver the sucker for letting me in his car.
i have only run 2 club events so i would expect to pay more and i would consider the driver the sucker for letting me in his car.
| bjorn240 | 08-30-2006 10:08 PM |
Yup, agree with everything posted. I definitely do not think it's appropriate for an experienced driver to pay for everything with a brand-new, totally green co-driver.
I think I was assuming that anyone interested in co-driving would already have been snooping around rallies, talking to co-drivers, maybe taken a class, etc.
I think I was assuming that anyone interested in co-driving would already have been snooping around rallies, talking to co-drivers, maybe taken a class, etc.
| greg donovan | 08-30-2006 10:47 PM |
[QUOTE=bjorn240;15081487]Yup, agree with everything posted. I definitely do not think it's appropriate for an experienced driver to pay for everything with a brand-new, totally green co-driver.
I think I was assuming that anyone interested in co-driving would already have been snooping around rallies, talking to co-drivers, maybe taken a class, etc.[/QUOTE]
i had been involved w/rally for since 99-00 and didnt hop into the silly seat untill 04.
maybe instead of requiring rookies to start in low power P and G2 cars we should require them to work on a service crew and maybe a start or finish control or two?
i have a feeling this is the case 90% of the time anyway but i am sure there are exceptions. i cant imagine anyone jumping into the sport cold and lasting very long unless they have a significant amount of cash.
I think I was assuming that anyone interested in co-driving would already have been snooping around rallies, talking to co-drivers, maybe taken a class, etc.[/QUOTE]
i had been involved w/rally for since 99-00 and didnt hop into the silly seat untill 04.
maybe instead of requiring rookies to start in low power P and G2 cars we should require them to work on a service crew and maybe a start or finish control or two?
i have a feeling this is the case 90% of the time anyway but i am sure there are exceptions. i cant imagine anyone jumping into the sport cold and lasting very long unless they have a significant amount of cash.
| gerald06sti | 08-31-2006 08:34 AM |
Thanks all for the responses thus far. I think that co-driving honestly is the choice that I should go for as far as entering in to the world of rally. I don't have the money to afford a car/crew/etc. and it sounds like once you know what you're doing as a co-driver the cost to paying to play goes down.
On one hand I could fork over a lot of money to get a taste of what a Rally is like by the eBay option. On the other hand perhaps my money may go further by attending a co-driver school at Team O and later on engage in a rally as a co-driver and work my way up.
Christian - if I do go with the eBay option, will you be at Wild West? If so we need to down a pint; I'll even buy! :)
On one hand I could fork over a lot of money to get a taste of what a Rally is like by the eBay option. On the other hand perhaps my money may go further by attending a co-driver school at Team O and later on engage in a rally as a co-driver and work my way up.
Christian - if I do go with the eBay option, will you be at Wild West? If so we need to down a pint; I'll even buy! :)
| bjorn240 | 08-31-2006 09:17 AM |
Gerald,
Unfortunately, I won't be at Wild West. My confirmed co-driving calendar for the rest of the year is Colorado Cog, LSPR, and Reno. There may be some other events added, but those are the current list.
- Christian
Unfortunately, I won't be at Wild West. My confirmed co-driving calendar for the rest of the year is Colorado Cog, LSPR, and Reno. There may be some other events added, but those are the current list.
- Christian
| gerald06sti | 08-31-2006 09:43 AM |
LSPR is coming up soon yeah? I may make that my maiden voyage in to Rally if other options fall through. If I go maybe I'll run in to you and some of the other guys on the forum. :)
| greg donovan | 08-31-2006 09:51 AM |
[QUOTE=gerald06sti;15085457]LSPR is coming up soon yeah? I may make that my maiden voyage in to Rally if other options fall through. If I go maybe I'll run in to you and some of the other guys on the forum. :)[/QUOTE]
LSPR is a great rally to go to.
the Upper Peninsula is a a great place for a vacation.
the roads up there are a blast to drive on (just dont engage in any jackassery).
the weather can do anything from rain to snow so plan accordingly.
LSPR is a great rally to go to.
the Upper Peninsula is a a great place for a vacation.
the roads up there are a blast to drive on (just dont engage in any jackassery).
the weather can do anything from rain to snow so plan accordingly.
| bjorn240 | 08-31-2006 09:55 AM |
LSPR is the weekend of October 20-21. It's a great rally, and I definitely recommend going to it. I'll be there, co-driving for Travis as usual! And buying Mykrrrr a few beers.
- Christian
- Christian
| JC_595 | 08-31-2006 12:08 PM |
I think I still owe Christian one or two drinks as well, and I would be happy to take you for a ride on the practice stage if you can be there Thursday for it.
JC
[url]http://www.gnimotorsports.com[/url]
JC
[url]http://www.gnimotorsports.com[/url]
| pinter | 08-31-2006 03:48 PM |
Wild West has been postponed due to fire danger. A new date has not been selected yet.
Here are some special stage threads about why.
[url]http://www.specialstage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23668[/url]
[url]http://www.specialstage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23687[/url]
Here are some special stage threads about why.
[url]http://www.specialstage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23668[/url]
[url]http://www.specialstage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23687[/url]
| gerald06sti | 08-31-2006 04:00 PM |
Thx for the heads up! :)
| mykrrrr | 08-31-2006 04:21 PM |
[QUOTE=bjorn240;15085611]LSPR is the weekend of October 20-21. It's a great rally, and I definitely recommend going to it. I'll be there, co-driving for Travis as usual! And buying Mykrrrr a few beers.
- Christian[/QUOTE]
[img]http://www.wormtech.com/phpbb/images/smiles/woot.gif[/img] :lol:
I'll take a few pints of cider as I'm addicted to Strongbow right now. :p
- Christian[/QUOTE]
[img]http://www.wormtech.com/phpbb/images/smiles/woot.gif[/img] :lol:
I'll take a few pints of cider as I'm addicted to Strongbow right now. :p
| Protege Menace | 08-31-2006 05:30 PM |
I still wanna try a swedish beer :banana:
| bjorn240 | 09-01-2006 03:15 PM |
I brought you four of them at that one rally... And they were like $7 a piece...
| gerald06sti | 09-01-2006 03:37 PM |
Stella FTW. That's a good beer IMHO.
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