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Suggestions for N/A Bodykit part 1

N/A01RS 08-31-2002 08:39 PM

Suggestions for N/A Bodykit
 
I am attempting to take my RS as far as it can possibly go with what it has. Looking for 250 crank horsepower without turbo or nitrous. Going N/A I realize I am going to need every advantage I can get so Im looking at the body kit right now. So far I the only body pieces I am set on are the trial hood and a carbon fiber trunk. Im looking for suggestions on the front and rear bumpers, sideskirts and wings. Obviously I want pieces that look good, but I also want pieces that are aerodynamically suited for a N/A application. Thanks for any suggestions.
WReX'n'Effect 08-31-2002 09:12 PM

pretty 2.5 = still smoked by a wrx. Sell the car, count yer losses, realize that you bought the wrong car, and try again.
N/A01RS 08-31-2002 09:40 PM

Do you have any idea how old that is getting. Yes I am well aware that a naturally aspirated Subaru is not the easiest or cheapest route to go. Have you never taken the road less traveled just for the hell of it. I tend to think that a 8000 rpm impreza running high 13's or low 14's would be pretty damn cool. If any one has some constructive comments please reply.
Bobalouy 08-31-2002 09:44 PM

Ahh dont listen to him, but I would say forget a bodykit and save your money cause 250 NA hp is going to cost alot.

Or the you could just do the CF trunk and hood, at least you would be saving weight.

Anthony C
tensecimpreza 08-31-2002 09:56 PM

ignore noobs
 
"Gain every advantage possible?" I assume you mean weight advantage. If that's the case, sure, go with carbon fiber panels or just lighterweight stuff. A lot of vendors sell them. Just make sure they aren't "off road" only use or whatever. There's hoods, trunk lids, bumpers, etc. Check products section of i-club, classifieds forums, vendor websites. You might not need to get to 250hp to reach your performance goals if you save weight. Good luck.

And Wrex, you must be a noob. That wasn't very constructive. Way to antagonize the majority of i-clubbers.
N/A01RS 08-31-2002 10:29 PM

Its great to hear from people who have a vocabulary that consists of more "than you should have got a WRX".

Bobalouy- I know its going to cost alot to do the motor/tranny, but its not a one or the other situation. I will have both done to the best of my checkbooks abilities.

tensecimpreza- Obviously weight is a huge concern with a N/A car so that will be a big factor, but I also want to work on the aerodyamics of the car. The impreza has the drag coefficiant of a brick. Thats why im set on the trial hood even though it may be a bit heavier than a carbon fiber hood. As far as lightening up the vehicle I will be putting on a carbon fiber trunk and maybe some lightweight door panels if I can remember where I saw them.

Anybody know if any of the companies that make kits for our cars do windtunnel testing? I could've sworn I heard that C-West does.
IMPREZA GUY 09-01-2002 02:00 AM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WReX'n'Effect [/i]
[B]pretty 2.5 = still smoked by a wrx. Sell the car, count yer losses, realize that you bought the wrong car, and try again. [/B][/QUOTE]


Why you band wagon jumping little ..... :monkey:
Andrew 09-01-2002 02:22 AM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WReX'n'Effect [/i]
[B]pretty 2.5 = still smoked by a wrx. Sell the car, count yer losses, realize that you bought the wrong car, and try again. [/B][/QUOTE]

:monkey:


ill laugh my ass off when you meet up with a turbo RS at a stoplight.




oh yeah and my suggestion for body kit, im not sure how crazy you want to go or your tastes but... stever is making a widebody kit for coupes (not sure if hes going to do sedans) and it will be all CF i believe. it will also be about 2500 IIRC. Karbonlite also makes CF bumpers and skirts that look like the Apexi kit.

and i agree with the above about body kit. go for the power first. its going to cost bank for 250 N/A. youre looking at heads, cams, maybe even higher compression pistons, and ECU.
Kostamojen 09-01-2002 02:47 AM

For a 250hp N/A RS you would have to go ballz out full blown race preped car... I doubt it would be streetable :p

As for aerodynamics, that wont help much on a dyno... But you could start with loosing the hoodscoop alltogether and doing a custom kit job ala gary sheehan's USTCC race car...
Andrew 09-01-2002 02:48 AM

oh yeah, Paeco offers some impressive NA shortblocks or fully built engines.
Bobalouy 09-01-2002 09:27 AM

I was just say go with the power mods now, I put alot of money into the appearance of my car. (body parts, and seats), and now I wish I had just put the money into a turbo. My car doesnt back up the looks.

Anthony C
litoljon 09-01-2002 12:31 PM

how about this front lip?

[IMG]http://pages.prodigy.net/alahoy/hin/IC-arthur.jpg[/IMG]


The lip is made by [URL=http://www.mroscoobystyling.com]MRO Scooby Styling[/URL] from the UK.


->arthur
mcu81 09-01-2002 12:37 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WReX'n'Effect [/i]
[B]pretty 2.5 = still smoked by a wrx. Sell the car, count yer losses, realize that you bought the wrong car, and try again. [/B][/QUOTE]


Your A ******* Douche Bag Newbie! Ricer!..........I have a WRX and a 95 L.......... But I miss my RS more than ever...........look at his member number, hes a douche bag noob.

-mikey
Gerry 09-01-2002 12:49 PM

Don't get mad..He was probally a Honda convert that is so happy that he has some power now..He most likely has APC rear "Altezza Style" lites on his car..You can't take pople like him serious..Gerry
N/A01RS 09-01-2002 01:15 PM

I think right know im leaning towards either the trial kit, apex'i kit or the prova eifel. Either way they'll have the trial hood and c/f trunk.

For anyone whos interested in the performance parts going on here it goes...

Link2
C&R Radiator
Cobb Stage II Short Block
Cobb Stage II Head Package
Custom "syms style" intake manifold
AEM Intake (street)
Custom Ram Air Intake (Track)
Cobb Throttle Body
Cobb Tuning Header/Catalytic Converter (when released)
Tanabe Super Racing Medallion
Go Fast Bits 3-Piece Pulley Set
370cc RC Engineering Injectors
Walbro 255lph Fuel Pump
NGK Spark Plugs
Nology Plug Wires
Crane Cams Ignition
ACT "street" Clutch
Cobb Flywheel
MRT Synchro Gearset
Sti Engine/Tranny Mounts

Everything here will be installed by July of '03

Andrew- I love Stevers kit but I just spent $2300 on wheels/tires last week that wont fit on that kit

By the way I looked up WReX'n'Effects past post. Hes only replied on one other post and all he did was talk smack about someones foglight covers. Why dont you go buy a ferrari. At least that way it would be ok to be conceited you ass.
Chav 09-01-2002 02:06 PM

N/A01RS, I've been waiting for someone to go all out naturally aspirated. 250hp is going to be a hard to reach goal, but I am sure that with proper tunning it is def. possible. One thing to think about maybe destroking the crank so that you can rev the engine much higher. 250hp will be very very difficult to reach at 6250rpm, but with an 8000rpm rev limit it is certainly an attainable goal. Good luck and don't forget to let us know how it goes.

-Chav

P.S. WReX'n'Effect: :lol: :lol: Your pretty funny. (At least your willing to admit the RS is better looking)
N/A01RS 09-01-2002 03:03 PM

Chav- Once the Cobb Heads and Short Block are on I will install the Sti gauge cluster so my new redline will be 7900rpm. Cobb said my main problem with running a redline that high is that the stock intake maniflold cant flow enough air which is why im going with the syms style tubular manifold.

Im sure there are some math guys around here that can figure something out for me. With the stock RS gearing and a 7900rpm redline would I be able to make it through the 1/4 mile without having to shift into 4th?
Andrew 09-01-2002 05:24 PM

honestly man...you are spending BANK to fix up your motor to run 250NA, why not spend 3-5k more on a turbo kit and push 15-20psi? then youll have 600hp


also you know that putting in a gauge cluster doesnt change your redline right? also i have never heard of syms making a manifold. and any manifold they make i would venture to say that its for the 2.0 heads.
N/A01RS 09-01-2002 05:46 PM

Andrew- I am well aware that the sti gauge cluster doesnt automatically give the engine a 7900rpm redline, hovever the cobb heads, short block, intake manifold and such will. As for the syms intake manifold I said "syms style" and to the best of my knowledge they never actually made a production model. They just used it on their 2.5 N/A race car. Im simply going to have a custom one fabricated that will be similiar to the syms setup. If you go to the spo motorsports website they have pictures in their photo gallery.
b_tapper 09-01-2002 06:07 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WReX'n'Effect [/i]
[B]pretty 2.5 = still smoked by a wrx. Sell the car, count yer losses, realize that you bought the wrong car, and try again. [/B][/QUOTE]

See this is why I'm getting a honda...all those banwagon jumpers now own wrx's like this fine example above :rolleyes: :p

Brian<---will rape WReX'n'Effect on the auto-x course with my AUTO RS.
Bobalouy 09-01-2002 07:00 PM

Oh yeah I forgot about the prova eifel kit, get that one its sick! And Im pritty sure they did alot of aerodynamic testing on it.

Anthony C
Imprezo 09-01-2002 07:37 PM

wrx n'effect go back to your honda and get out of the suby, people like you shouldnt be permitted to drive a subaru, you're not worthy of real suby power

wrx n'effect= dumb little ricer with no friends
:monkey:
Andrew 09-01-2002 08:50 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by N/A01RS [/i]
[B]Andrew- I am well aware that the sti gauge cluster doesnt automatically give the engine a 7900rpm redline, hovever the cobb heads, short block, intake manifold and such will. As for the syms intake manifold I said "syms style" and to the best of my knowledge they never actually made a production model. They just used it on their 2.5 N/A race car. Im simply going to have a custom one fabricated that will be similiar to the syms setup. If you go to the spo motorsports website they have pictures in their photo gallery. [/B][/QUOTE]

the mods you listed wont increase your RPM, only the ecu can. maybe we are just getting our points mixed up. yes youll only reach those RPMs with what you listed but you can only raise the RPM by changing the signal from the ECU (thus the link2). :)
thats what i was trying to say.
ac_gohan 09-01-2002 09:00 PM

how ignorant WReX'n'Effect's is..... Hey good luck on your NA power goals. One suggestion i can give you is MRT headers. We had a dyno day a couple months ago and 2 NA RS's put down 150 at the wheels with just a cone intake filter and MRT headers and exhaust. I think they got the power out because the headers are equal length. Good luck
N/A01RS 09-01-2002 09:45 PM

Andrew- I dont know if were just not understanding each other, but If you look further back on this post I listed all the items going under the hood (so to speak) and the very first item on my list was a Link2

By the way its nice to know that im not the only one who gets irritated by people like WReX'n'Effect. Maybe I ought to go turbo just so I can drive out to cali and put his dumb ass in check! Na, it aint worth my time.
Frakk's2.5 09-02-2002 12:48 AM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WReX'n'Effect [/i]
[B]pretty 2.5 = still smoked by a wrx. Sell the car, count yer losses, realize that you bought the wrong car, and try again. [/B][/QUOTE]
Hey Dumb @$$!!! if you don't have anything constructive to say then please don't post!:monkey:
Kostamojen 09-02-2002 01:54 AM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by N/A01RS [/i]
[B]Andrew- I am well aware that the sti gauge cluster doesnt automatically give the engine a 7900rpm redline, hovever the cobb heads, short block, intake manifold and such will. As for the syms intake manifold I said "syms style" and to the best of my knowledge they never actually made a production model. They just used it on their 2.5 N/A race car. Im simply going to have a custom one fabricated that will be similiar to the syms setup. If you go to the spo motorsports website they have pictures in their photo gallery. [/B][/QUOTE]
Um, the only thing that controls the redline is the ECU :p

And you aparently forgot that in your mods list!!! :eek:

You need some SERIOUS engine management! :eek: :eek:

That sounds like a nice set up you are shooting for! :) And I would guess about 220hp or so from that set up... If its more, I would be really enthusastic and give you the BIG thumbs up! :D But you really need some sort of upgraded ECU system in there to get the best out of it (*cough* Vishnu Secret *cough* ;) )
Kostamojen 09-02-2002 01:54 AM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WReX'n'Effect [/i]
[B]pretty 2.5 = still smoked by a wrx. Sell the car, count yer losses, realize that you bought the wrong car, and try again. [/B][/QUOTE]
Special Note: I beat 8 '02 Imprezas today at the autocross in my 110hp L :D

Now go away... You ARE the embodyment of what is wrong with I-club
N/A01RS 09-02-2002 03:25 AM

Kostamojen- If you go back towards the begining of this thread I wrote down a full list of whats going in the car as far as performance. The very first item on the list is a Link2;)
Kostamojen 09-03-2002 01:31 AM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by N/A01RS [/i]
[B]Kostamojen- If you go back towards the begining of this thread I wrote down a full list of whats going in the car as far as performance. The very first item on the list is a Link2;) [/B][/QUOTE]
Ah, bastard! Snuck that one by me didnt you :p I totally missed it!

Oh well... You better dyno your car when you're finished so we can all see the results :p
SCRAPPYDO 09-03-2002 10:36 AM

I don't know why I feel the urge to add my two cents here. Lord knows I have done some expensive and completely useless things to cars in my past. And just who am I to tell you what to do with your car. Well that's easy, I am nobody. And what I say, just like anybody else here, does not matter at all. It's your car. And whatever dreams you have, power to you. I just want to say something. Not to rain on your parade, but take the risk and play devils advocate. Feel free to ignore every last word I say. I am only saying this to try to help.

So with that being said:

This is not going to be the last car you ever own. You will have better, faster, more expensive cars. I don't know how old you are, or what kind of job you have. I don't know if you have another car to drive around for 6 months while your RS is being worked on or being tuned. I think you may have oversimplified how hard this is going to be. For instance, you don't "simply" have an intake made. Months of research must go into it a N/A intake system. They are much harder to design than say a turbo system. The price of that alone could cost thousands. I would suggest making due with an existing intake, and modifying it somehow. Try extrude-honing it. Your talking about a project that will cost you well over 10,000 dollars here. Cobb block, heads and engine management is at least 7 grand by itself. Just be sure you have the means to finish what you start. Setting realistic goals and accomplishing them is far more rewarding than setting out to make the pinnacle of engines only to fall short and be vastly poorer to boot. I know what its like to have a dream. You write down every last part you want to buy, you make lists. You estimate power, and picture yourself driving around town. Been there. Somehow it always takes far more money than we have.

For all I know you may be a lawyer, or a Biomedical Engineer with the funds and the resources to accomplish this task. You may be a high school teen-ager with super rich parents who are willing to give you whatever you want. You may have even won the lottery, or just received a huge settlement for something. If none of this is true, you may find financing your dream to be just that…. A dream.

But power to you. You have a 2001 RS. A great car by any comparison! Enjoy it for what it is now. I will stop this post. Feel free to ignore any or all of it. Does not matter to me, I am just trying to help.
wighti 09-03-2002 11:02 AM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WReX'n'Effect [/i]
[B]pretty 2.5 = still smoked by a wrx. Sell the car, count yer losses, realize that you bought the wrong car, and try again. [/B][/QUOTE]

Whata RiCer comment!!! That's why I only wave to GC people.
I bet you got Altezza tail lights.:rolleyes:


Anyway, N/A01RS....There is a GB going for a Carbon fiber sun roof in the private "wanted" forum..(more weight savings).
If you ever want anything else in CF talk to Steppin16.

As, far as my opinion on the body kit....Get the light weight bumper beams, a lip, and put some STi fog covers on there. That's the lightest way to go and with the money you aved from not buying a kit, you can have yourself a set of cams.
Good luck with it and let me know on your proggres.
wighti
OneArmedScissor 09-03-2002 11:47 AM

the only "kit" you should be thinking about right now

is a nitrous express genX II
with the bottle heater.


giggle gas is your friend.
ATX25RS 09-03-2002 12:25 PM

i saw your thread in another forum, and i am the guy 2point5RS said was selling the trial bumper.....let me know if you are interested, as far as parts and performance, AndresRS01 had the fastest NA RS, that i knew of at least, 14.1......if you place on lightening the car, as in light wieght bumper beams, front and rear, then your choice of kits is indefinate :D......if not there are only a few available with out modifications...here's the trial kit:D

[IMG]http://www.ae.utexas.edu/~castana/View.jpg[/IMG]
stentorian 09-04-2002 12:58 AM

WReX'n'Effect: uhm, NO!!! Must be one of those ricers that got a WRX and have no idea what it really can do. Did you know there are Impreza's in the US before the WRX?? Prolly not, just like everyone else around:lol:

-Joe
Andrew 09-04-2002 01:16 AM

guys just face it...we are all idiots for buying a car before the new age WRX was even announced. stupid us :rolleyes:
edkwon 09-04-2002 04:54 AM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WReX'n'Effect [/i]
[B]pretty 2.5 = still smoked by a wrx. Sell the car, count yer losses, realize that you bought the wrong car, and try again. [/B][/QUOTE]

this sounds like such a troll post, maybe he was just grumpy and didn't get any tonight?

Ed
edkwon 09-04-2002 04:55 AM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WReX'n'Effect [/i]
[B]pretty 2.5 = still smoked by a wrx. Sell the car, count yer losses, realize that you bought the wrong car, and try again. [/B][/QUOTE]

this sounds like such a troll post, maybe he was just grumpy and didn't get any tonight?

Ed
scubaracer 09-04-2002 12:59 PM

Wrxneffect is so wrong. I think he has it backwards, he bought the wrong car. a gc8 is the classic traditional ever so good looking body style compared to the bug eyed monstrosity! (honestly, the new body style with the prodrive headlight conversion is not too bad, but gc8's still look WAY better!)

good luck N/A01rs on your n/a build up, a 2.5 revved upto 8000 rpm would sound amazing!:eek: :D
dRu888 09-04-2002 05:35 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WReX'n'Effect [/i]
[B]pretty 2.5 = still smoked by a wrx. Sell the car, count yer losses, realize that you bought the wrong car, and try again. [/B][/QUOTE]

:monkey: :monkey: :monkey: all these monkeys still don't describe what a monkey you are =P


for my opinion for a body kit, you should get the prova eifel kit =) wind tunnel tested baby!
FuJi K 09-18-2002 01:27 PM

don't forget: maybe higher compression pistons will help to increase some torque and hp. Cobb has the 11:1 CR pistons i think the last time i checked. 12-14 CR piston will increase alot also.....it's just maybe more mantainance though, but as long as you're up to it;)
[QUOTE]pretty 2.5 = still smoked by a wrx. Sell the car, count yer losses, realize that you bought the wrong car, and try again. [/QUOTE]
It depends what you're referring to. Stock N/A will not go up against stock WRX. But if you meant a PRETTY WELL DONE 2.5 then i think you have underestimated what's under the hood. Sure the EJ20T motor is great but the EJ25 is also great. The EJ25 motor is good in other ways than the EJ20. Better torque curve and more torque maybe. Both engine are capable of many things. There's nothing wrong with buying a 2.5 RS...
dcoty 09-18-2002 08:53 PM

NA01RS--I sent u a pm, we're going the same way so far, except Im a ittle further along in the project, I get my car back tomorrow.

And by the way :monkey: :monkey: :monkey: to WRx em all for that first comment and that was my thread that he posted the dumb a$$ comment:"why dont you put ferarri horses on the fig light covers". This guy is a n00b ricer b!tch. (That was my first flame/vent since I became a member).

Good luck, send me a pm if you want, you have some good ideas!

Dan
Peaty 10-13-2002 04:55 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by edkwon [/i]
[B]

this sounds like such a troll post, maybe he was just grumpy and didn't get any tonight?

Ed [/B][/QUOTE]

Hmmm that would explain it anyway WReX'n'Effect's interests in his profile make sense, well the "beatin" part anyway

"Interests eatin, beatin, & sleepin"
kaos200 10-14-2002 10:56 PM

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Andrew [/i]
[B]

:monkey:


ill laugh my ass off when you meet up with a turbo RS at a stoplight.


[/B][/QUOTE]
Im in San Diego often, Id love to do the honors,
Hey jackass (wrxeneffect), wanna race? Lets put some money on it, Ill rock you so hard you wont know which way is forward. Dont be afraid of my "pretty 2.5"...

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