| jblaine | 11-19-2005 09:44 AM |
X-1 electric car trounces Modena and Carerra GT
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[url]http://www.kron.com/Global/story.asp?S=4122234[/url]
Click the video. Watch and pick your jaw off the floor. That thing can launch!
Click the video. Watch and pick your jaw off the floor. That thing can launch!
| jblaine | 11-19-2005 09:54 AM |
Dammit, I meant this for Proven Power Bragging :(
| thesmokingman | 11-19-2005 10:38 AM |
It's an electric ya know. Where you been... :alien: Try nedra.
| DrBiggly | 11-19-2005 10:38 AM |
Looks like the guy modified an Aerial Atom to be electric. :)
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| KC | 11-19-2005 11:21 AM |
[QUOTE=DrBiggly]Looks like the guy modified an Aerial Atom to be electric. :)
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| MattDell | 11-19-2005 11:23 AM |
Yeah, it's an Aerial Atom.
| thesmokingman | 11-19-2005 11:28 AM |
^^I thought that that was obvious by now.
My electric car nut friend built his son a mini-electric drag bike complete with wheelie bars. He races it too. The thing does burn outs and the qtr in about 14sec. It's hilarious, it'll blow away a WRX... and its the size of a mini-bike. They're from the Bay area, figures.
My electric car nut friend built his son a mini-electric drag bike complete with wheelie bars. He races it too. The thing does burn outs and the qtr in about 14sec. It's hilarious, it'll blow away a WRX... and its the size of a mini-bike. They're from the Bay area, figures.
| fasssst | 11-19-2005 11:41 AM |
[QUOTE=thesmokingman]^^I thought that that was obvious by now.
My electric car nut friend built his son a mini-electric drag bike complete with wheelie bars. He races it too. The thing does burn outs and the qtr in about 14sec. It's hilarious, it'll blow away a WRX... and its the size of a mini-bike. They're from the Bay area, figures.[/QUOTE]
PLEASE,PLEASE,PLEASE POST A VIDEO OF THIS!!!!!!
PLEASE.
My electric car nut friend built his son a mini-electric drag bike complete with wheelie bars. He races it too. The thing does burn outs and the qtr in about 14sec. It's hilarious, it'll blow away a WRX... and its the size of a mini-bike. They're from the Bay area, figures.[/QUOTE]
PLEASE,PLEASE,PLEASE POST A VIDEO OF THIS!!!!!!
PLEASE.
| Arnie | 11-19-2005 12:16 PM |
pretty neat. my favorite part, though, was just hearing the Porsche scream through the gears.
| jblaine | 11-19-2005 07:23 PM |
Yeah, I thought it was pretty obvious it was electric as well.
Given that my subject line is: "X-1 electric car trounces Modena and Carerra GT" ...
*golf clap* :)
Given that my subject line is: "X-1 electric car trounces Modena and Carerra GT" ...
*golf clap* :)
| 8Complex | 11-19-2005 07:48 PM |
Electric motor... peak torque at 0rpm.
Very cool idea converting the Arial Atom. I would love to take that for a spin around a track.
Very cool idea converting the Arial Atom. I would love to take that for a spin around a track.
| REX8 | 11-19-2005 07:48 PM |
Of course it can launch. It makes 100% of its torque at 0 RPMS.
| REX8 | 11-19-2005 07:49 PM |
[QUOTE=8Complex]Electric motor... peak torque at 0rpm.
Very cool idea converting the Arial Atom. I would love to take that for a spin around a track.[/QUOTE]
I got mine in first, you just got the nod b/c you're a mod... :lol:
Very cool idea converting the Arial Atom. I would love to take that for a spin around a track.[/QUOTE]
I got mine in first, you just got the nod b/c you're a mod... :lol:
| Homemade WRX | 11-19-2005 10:35 PM |
[QUOTE=REX8]Of course it can launch. It makes 100% of its torque at 0 RPMS.[/QUOTE]
kinda funny to think if you were to rev it up and dump its clutch it would launch slower and be less likely to fry tires... ;)
kinda funny to think if you were to rev it up and dump its clutch it would launch slower and be less likely to fry tires... ;)
| thesmokingman | 11-22-2005 10:24 PM |
[QUOTE=fasssst]PLEASE,PLEASE,PLEASE POST A VIDEO OF THIS!!!!!!
PLEASE.[/QUOTE]
I can't this was almost a decade ago. :lol:
PLEASE.[/QUOTE]
I can't this was almost a decade ago. :lol:
| funsti | 11-22-2005 11:36 PM |
Yes.. electric is superior in performance.. I knew this from my R/C car racing days. The modified class electric cars would KILL the gas powered cars any day everything else being equal (Awaits flamage).
Still, nothing beats a roaring internal combustion engine for pure visceral appeal; excluding the super annoying ~30k rpm 2-stroke motors on gas powered R/C cars of course! :p The one thing I do like about those gas powered R/C car motors though.. is the burnt fuel smell: NITRO METHANE!
-JWM
Still, nothing beats a roaring internal combustion engine for pure visceral appeal; excluding the super annoying ~30k rpm 2-stroke motors on gas powered R/C cars of course! :p The one thing I do like about those gas powered R/C car motors though.. is the burnt fuel smell: NITRO METHANE!
-JWM
| P-TownWRX | 11-23-2005 03:58 AM |
Umm, maybe I am blind but there is NO link to a video on that page, can somebody post a direct link to the vid, maybe they removed it?
| bal00 | 11-23-2005 05:25 AM |
Now put the electric powertrain in an actual car, add enough batteries to give it a halfway usable range (not just enough for a 1/4 mile pass) and watch it run a 17.
Electric motors are great and all, but they don't really make sense in a performance car because of the range vs. weight vs. performance issue. With current technology, a 300hp electric motor would need like 1000lb worth of batteries alone, unless you're happy with a single digit range. Until we get _significantly_ lighter batteries or suitable technology to produce electricity on the fly, internal combustion is the only way to go for everything that needs to run for longer than just a few seconds.
Btw, Venturi (french sportscar manufacturer) sells an electric sportscar already:
[url="http://www.venturi.fr/us/fetish/specs/specs.php3"]http://www.venturi.fr/us/fetish/specs/specs.php3[/url]
Costs about the same as a CGT, though.
Electric motors are great and all, but they don't really make sense in a performance car because of the range vs. weight vs. performance issue. With current technology, a 300hp electric motor would need like 1000lb worth of batteries alone, unless you're happy with a single digit range. Until we get _significantly_ lighter batteries or suitable technology to produce electricity on the fly, internal combustion is the only way to go for everything that needs to run for longer than just a few seconds.
Btw, Venturi (french sportscar manufacturer) sells an electric sportscar already:
[url="http://www.venturi.fr/us/fetish/specs/specs.php3"]http://www.venturi.fr/us/fetish/specs/specs.php3[/url]
Costs about the same as a CGT, though.
| thesmokingman | 11-24-2005 12:55 PM |
[QUOTE=bal00]Now put the electric powertrain in an actual car, add enough batteries to give it a halfway usable range (not just enough for a 1/4 mile pass) and watch it run a 17.
Electric motors are great and all, but they don't really make sense in a performance car because of the range vs. weight vs. performance issue. With current technology, a 300hp electric motor would need like 1000lb worth of batteries alone, unless you're happy with a single digit range. Until we get _significantly_ lighter batteries or suitable technology to produce electricity on the fly, internal combustion is the only way to go for everything that needs to run for longer than just a few seconds.
Btw, Venturi (french sportscar manufacturer) sells an electric sportscar already:
[url="http://www.venturi.fr/us/fetish/specs/specs.php3"]http://www.venturi.fr/us/fetish/specs/specs.php3[/url]
Costs about the same as a CGT, though.[/QUOTE]
My same friend built a 914 electric. It looked so sweat with the Carrera body kit on it, until you opened her up and saw the massive amountage of batteries. At which point you'd start laughing when the realization of sheer weight of it all smacks you upside the head.
Sounds great, but...
BTW, the electric powertrain in a normal car uses, the car's drivetrain. Other than the electric motor and batteries, it uses the existing tranny etc. The loss is in the weight of the batteries.
Electric motors are great and all, but they don't really make sense in a performance car because of the range vs. weight vs. performance issue. With current technology, a 300hp electric motor would need like 1000lb worth of batteries alone, unless you're happy with a single digit range. Until we get _significantly_ lighter batteries or suitable technology to produce electricity on the fly, internal combustion is the only way to go for everything that needs to run for longer than just a few seconds.
Btw, Venturi (french sportscar manufacturer) sells an electric sportscar already:
[url="http://www.venturi.fr/us/fetish/specs/specs.php3"]http://www.venturi.fr/us/fetish/specs/specs.php3[/url]
Costs about the same as a CGT, though.[/QUOTE]
My same friend built a 914 electric. It looked so sweat with the Carrera body kit on it, until you opened her up and saw the massive amountage of batteries. At which point you'd start laughing when the realization of sheer weight of it all smacks you upside the head.
Sounds great, but...
BTW, the electric powertrain in a normal car uses, the car's drivetrain. Other than the electric motor and batteries, it uses the existing tranny etc. The loss is in the weight of the batteries.
| jmott | 11-24-2005 01:55 PM |
[QUOTE=bal00]Now put the electric powertrain in an actual car, add enough batteries to give it a halfway usable range (not just enough for a 1/4 mile pass) and watch it run a 17.[/QUOTE]
The GM ev1 was faster than the ford mustang GTs of the day.
Ran in the 14s iirc
The GM ev1 was faster than the ford mustang GTs of the day.
Ran in the 14s iirc
| silver arrow | 11-24-2005 08:43 PM |
Technically at 0 rpm it makes 0 torque. Try again.
| boundy3 | 11-24-2005 09:29 PM |
is it just me, cause I can't seem to find the video anywhere. I looked over the page for a good 4 minutes a can't find the video link?
| Sean | 11-24-2005 11:25 PM |
+1 to request the video...all I see is a big white box where a video looks like it's supposed to be.
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| bitterWRX | 11-25-2005 07:14 AM |
i think the carrera gt and the ferrari would be more fun to drive...
| Adam M | 11-25-2005 08:37 AM |
why does it have to make no torque at no rpm?
it makes no bhp yes, but you can generate loads of torque without moving.
consider a breaker bar before the nut cracks! loads of torque on the thing, just an equal an opposite reaction torque. But as you push down on the breaker bar, there is no question you are applying a torque.
it makes no bhp yes, but you can generate loads of torque without moving.
consider a breaker bar before the nut cracks! loads of torque on the thing, just an equal an opposite reaction torque. But as you push down on the breaker bar, there is no question you are applying a torque.
| bal00 | 11-26-2005 07:24 AM |
[QUOTE=jmott]The GM ev1 was faster than the ford mustang GTs of the day.
Ran in the 14s iirc[/QUOTE]
They were much slower than that. 3000lb, 137hp, 0-60 in 8.5 sec and a 80mph top speed, 75-135 miles range. That'd make it run a high 16/low 17 or so, and that's with the NiMh batteries, with the regular ones it would be a lot worse.
Ran in the 14s iirc[/QUOTE]
They were much slower than that. 3000lb, 137hp, 0-60 in 8.5 sec and a 80mph top speed, 75-135 miles range. That'd make it run a high 16/low 17 or so, and that's with the NiMh batteries, with the regular ones it would be a lot worse.
| rex n effect | 11-26-2005 05:30 PM |
[QUOTE=silver arrow]Technically at 0 rpm it makes 0 torque. Try again.[/QUOTE]You, sir, are just wrong.
It makes 0 hp @ 0 rpm.
It makes 0 hp @ 0 rpm.
| SubaruImpreza_power | 11-28-2005 02:43 AM |
[QUOTE=boundy3]is it just me, cause I can't seem to find the video anywhere. I looked over the page for a good 4 minutes a can't find the video link?[/QUOTE]
Ditto same here.
Ditto same here.
| KmanRuffian | 11-28-2005 05:26 AM |
Sorry to rain on the parade of electric praise but guess what? The regular Aerial Atom, you know the one that runs on dinosaurs? The one with the supercharged civic type-R engine? The one I vow to own before I die? Or its equivalent of course... It's faster. Much faster.
[url]http://www.autocar.co.uk/popups/video.asp?AR=215770[/url]
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[url]http://www.autocar.co.uk/popups/video.asp?AR=215770[/url]
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| rjp | 11-28-2005 02:01 PM |
I'll try to find a link to it, but I read a very interesting story about a new hybrid drivetrain. I think it was one that Lexus was going to be using. Basically, it balanced the use of the electric and combustion portions so that maximum performance could be attained, and it still got better milage.
Launch with electric, power across the line on the combustion. Let me do some googling.
Launch with electric, power across the line on the combustion. Let me do some googling.
| Freon | 11-28-2005 02:56 PM |
Not that impressed. The Atom is a track car, no matter what Jeremy Clarkson says. It little more than a tube chassis with a Honda motor. You can drive a Modena to work every day, even in snow on a wellpaved road.
And as Kman pointed out, when compared in a far more apples-to-apples (same chassis, electric vs. gas powerplant), the gas powered version is faster. And probably weighs less, handles better, has decent range, God knows what other sacrifices were made for the electric...
And as Kman pointed out, when compared in a far more apples-to-apples (same chassis, electric vs. gas powerplant), the gas powered version is faster. And probably weighs less, handles better, has decent range, God knows what other sacrifices were made for the electric...
| powerlabs | 11-28-2005 03:11 PM |
[QUOTE=silver arrow]Technically at 0 rpm it makes 0 torque. Try again.[/QUOTE]
Erm... Try some physics...
If it makes zero torque, how does it ever get moving from a standstill without a clutch? :rolleyes:
Erm... Try some physics...
If it makes zero torque, how does it ever get moving from a standstill without a clutch? :rolleyes:
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